Mormon History: LDS (Mormon) Prophet Wilford Woodruff 1/2

[rachiexoxo321]

I did not know any of this about my great great grandfather

[simoneluv]

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints is the only True Church on the Earth today.Temples will be spread across the World the dead will be redeemed.Thank you Joseph Smith for bringing the Book of Mormon to light.

[hsarvis62]

With all due respect, on a number of major, essential issues, the doctrine of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latterday Saints contradicts the Gospel of Jesus Christ has described in the New Testament. I pray, please read through the New Testament and you will see that Joseph Smith was incorrect.

[lds9999]

What do you believe contradicts?

[TheDelightfulOne]

like grace by works

[hsarvis62]

(1) Salvation by Grace and Grace alone (Ephesians 2:8-9)

(2) There is one God, not a multiplicity of Gods

(3) God the Father is Spirit, not a physical being (John 4:24)

(4) There is no marriage or marrying in heaven (Mark 12:18-27)

(5) The need for temples has been fulfilled in the work of Christ (Hebrews 7-10; Colossians 2:16-17)

These are just a few.

[lds9999]

(1) Faith without works are dead (James 2:14-16) but it is only through the grace of Christ that we can be saved.

(2) Jesus and the Father are separate beings (John 17)

(3) The idea that God was a being without body, parts or passions was developed by creeds long after the Bible was written.

(4) There is no marrying in heaven, but that scripture absolutely does not prevent marriage from continuing there.

(5) That Colossians scripture has nothing to do with the temple.

[hsarvis62]

In response:

(1) - Context is important - in James, he is describing how we can tell if someone has true authentic faith in Christ (we need to look at the fruit it bears). Yet our salvation is based solely on Christ's death on the Cross

(2) God exists as one essence in three distinct persons - This best expresses the teachings of the Old and New Testament

(3) - The teaching that God the Father has a body was developed by Joseph Smith. Bible teaches God the Father is Spirit only.

[lds9999]

(1) I agree with you that it is only through Christ that we can be saved. However, He has given us commandments to follow.

(2) Three distinct persons, unified in purpose. Agreed.

(3) This discussion needs far more than 500 characters. If you're interested, I can send you an article that specifically addresses this in depth.

[hsarvis62]

(2) No - three persons, one essence (being). It has been a while since studied the Book of Mormon, but if memory serves me correctly, the Book of Mormon teaches that God the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are one God. The teaching of the three distinct person/beings was added by Joseph Smith later on.

(3) I would be interested in the article.

[lds9999]

(2) Three people in one being? That doesn't make sense. They are one God, unified in purpose, but three distinct beings. The Book of Mormon teaches that. The Bible does as well. Consider Acts 7:55-56 when Stephen sees Jesus standing on the right hand of God. If they were the same being, how is one standing on the right hand of the other?

[hsarvis62]

(4) - Please look at the context of Mark 12 - The Sadducees asked to whom would the woman be married at the resurrection. Jesus' response indicates that their would be no marriage in heaven. If LDS teaching is correct, then Jesus would have answered differently (she would have been married to all the brothers, or the first one,etc.)

(5) Please note Hebrews 7-10 - OT Temple is now obsolete with the coming of Christ. LDS Temple is nothing like OT. It is a creation of Joseph Smith.

[lds9999]

(4) (4) Look at Jesus' words carefully. He says, "For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage." That is absolutely what we believe and teach. We can be married for all eternity, but it must be done by the authority of God and done in this life, not the next.

(5) God has established temples in these latter-days largely in order to perform ordinances on behalf of those who died without receiving the necessary ordinances, like baptism.

[hsarvis62]

(4) With all due respect, you are looking at Jesus' statement in isolation from the question raised by the Sadducees. The Sadducees asked Jesus to whom would the woman be married to in heaven (of the 7 brothers). These were men that she had already been married to in her mortal life.

Your interpretation of Jesus' response doesn't answer the Sadducees question. However, if Jesus is saying that there is no marriage in the next life, then it makes perfect sense and answers the Sadducees.

[lds9999]

(4) With similar respect back to you, you are interpreting Jesus' words to say more than they do in the scripture. Again, he clearly says that no one will get married, or be given in marriage, after the Resurrection.

In cases like this, I am grateful for living prophets and additional word of God that answer any questions that arise and confirm the truth. I am grateful that I can be married to my wife for time and all eternity through the Lord's way.

[EphraimLDS]

@lds9999 Amen! What God hath put together, let no man put asunder! The ancients understood the principle of binding on earth as well as in heaven very well!

[CTR831]

John 10:32 Jesus answered them, Many good works have I shewed you from my Father; for which of those works do ye stone me?

33 The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

[Hambidosvinet]

sigh cant stand christians that dont know their own bible , don't belive in Prophets belive in the words of love.

[omiolo]

Wilford Woodruff, who later became president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, was baptized in 1833 and ordained an apostle in 1839. He became assistant church historian in the 1850s.

[omiolo]

His personal journal was a primary source for much of compilation of the Documentary History of the Church project

[omiolo]

Turley quoted B. H. Roberts on how "no one will surpass in excellence and permanence or largeness the service which Wilford Woodruff has given to the Church of Jesus Christ" by keeping a journal for 63 years. Wilford Woodruff became church historian in 1883 and served until he became president of the church in 1889.

[theQiwiMan]

great vid! Awesome to learn more of the prophet Woodruff's life. (Just wish the awful, awful, AWFUL music was muted!)

[omiolo]

He sure was a hard worker and kind to all!