and not living in a preconcieved approach to life and letting intuition guide but she builds it up forever and goes on and on about herself in her ego trip, thinking she's found out something so new. In fact in order to deal with our shame, which we all have in one way or another, is by understand our collective past as humans and what happened to us eons ago. Once we get that and why we are like we are then we wont be as easily pushed around anymore. This is like an infomercial. Old world stuff
nice to see that Georga8 got it atleast, this woman got bigheaded from finding out few things (that arent new) and made it a "me, me, me" performance out of it with silly humor attempts here and there. People who listen to these things end up the same because this is so mainstream and on the entertainment level where they never rly take power back. This is just like Oprah, it's the attempt of sounding poetic but not really saying much. She basically says living outside of reptilian brain
@TheGeorga8 kindly direct us to the site of the publications or seminars in which your ideas were put forth so that we might all have the opportunity to throw stones from the cheap seats as you have so eloquently done.
@browser809 ditto,a lot of vocal diarrhoea, another axample that a little knowledge can be dangerous,I think I will pick a topic research it to death and become a research story teller
Looking at the comments here...I can see so many people who simply reject the idea of vulnerability. Maybe just like how Dr. Brown struggled with vulnerability? It takes some time to get your fear and pride out of the way...
very enlightening. i really need to work on being vulnerable in a good way, in the way that is necessary to being human. Thanks Dr. Brown for opening my eyes :)
I love the idea of courage being telling the story of who I am with my whole heart. Collecting stories from people as research is something those of us in the arts & humanities have long understood as incredibly powerful. I applaud Dr. Brown's research and hope she continues on this path.
My point is be sensible about vulnerability. Dr Brown's research applies to some cases and does not apply to others. Vulnerability is not a panacea to all of our problems. It does help you feel a bit better to not always be focused on perfection and invulnerability. It is similar to the power of prayer, which allows you to sub-consciously recognize your imperfection as you hand off all you worries to a "higher power", thereby relieving you off the stress. It helps. So does meditation.
@meglam2007 of course religion is only one path to having courage to accept our vulnerability and imperfection and the scariness of being out on the limb of total love.
Most people with privilege, power, wealth, beauty, etc rarely encounter vulnerability to the extent needed to put together a good study about vulnerability. The optimist is the one who cheers you on when things are going great for him. Likewise, the ones who cheer you on about vulnerability did not invest all of their assets in 2008 on the day Lehman Brother's collapsed hoping that their vulnerability would bring together the collective consciousness of people at large to make them wealth.
I don't think she has ever encountered vulnerability. Vulnerability is when a man who according to a hot blonde woman is short, bald, or ugly tries to start a simple conversations with her. Vulnerability is when you give up all your money, assets, title and everything else to go on a journey to an unknown country for a spiritual awakening. Vulnerability is when the guy who went to Tienanmen Square stood in front of the Chinese army tank for a purpose, not knowing if he would return home alive.
Her logic does not account for reality though. You might ask a 1000 people out on dates and fall in love with all the wrong people and say that you love them. However, it's only the people you are compatible with that you can have lasting meaningful relationships. Heartbreaks are great if you want them, but seeking out the right partners does require thinking, analysis, prediction and control. To the extent that Black Swan events affect us, her kind of vulnerability will cause you only troubles.
Research = "The systematic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions." It is not about controlling anything.
Brene's spiritual awakening was her adoption of Christianity.
What she is saying follows along the Christian belief that Christ's vulnerability to be nailed to the cross led to emancipation of the human soul.
Her logic is partly correct, that you have to be vulnerable to accept your imperfectness to connect with others
I don't care if this was considered un-scientific or whatever because it's up to how you accept and perceive in the end. Personally, I enjoyed listening to her thoughts and experience I never really thought much about the idea of vulnerability and it was eye-opening.
@jfosorio FUCK you and all the people who have liked you're snoody remark. what good has it done? it sounds like to me that you're trying to blame someone else for your pain and discomfort.
@jsh181 The thousand of stories she received is the data that backed up her claims. She analysed that data and drew a conclusion.To me, that very clearly makes her a sociological researcher. Good day sir.
@fctchk I will agree that she doesn't present her methodology well, nor is this a very well-organized talk. At the same time, my sense is that you are only aware of quantitative research design. Unfortunately, to measure open-ended and qualitative questions, quantitative measures are not enough. It is also unfortunate that the methods are not made more clear here. However, you can begin by reading Gregory Kelly's essay on epistemologies and Corbin and Strauss's text on grounded theory.
That's a foolish way of thinking. I suppose UFOs don't exist, at all, in any form, because we cannot look at the anecdotes of literally millions of people as having any credibility, despite their profession or intelligence? If everybody on Earth suddenly saw the sky as bright pink, would you ignore the testimony of 7 billion people as "worthless anecdotes"? I suppose you would, until you looked up at the sky and saw it for yourself.
It's the inability to be vulnerable and feeling safe being so that contributes so much to the hatred and self-abuse we find in our culture, esp among men.
dear fctchk, HOw is YOUR connection with other people? So easy to criticize someone's imperfection out of your own, and miss an important message here...what she is saying about love and connection and contributing to each others's lives is common sense, easily observed... if you don't have your own agenda for feeling your need to prove your superiority...throwing away an opportunity to take what you choose to learn from her life's work. @cupateantalk
@fctchk@lakemara56 Based on your comments, it appears you're proponents of "basic" versus "applied" research. Both (ideally) follow scientific method, but each have different end goals. google.com/search?q=applied+vs+basic+research+site%3A.edu+OR+site%3A.gov for more on that. I agree that pseudoscience is dangerous, when mistakenly offered as pure truth, but I also believe research that becomes popular due to relevance to the human condition shouldn't be disregarded just for that reason.
@AozoraX It's also possible that "half" is able to tolerate their vulnerability and fear long enough to explore a construct with discernment and critical thinking. Vulnerability and fear, when not tolerated, can also make a person jump at any simplistic or thin explanation, swallowing it whole in the hope of some easy, temporary relief. Shaming people for posing a question or raising a doubt is an attempt to silence critical thinking.
I think you may be brainwashed on this subject. What you are really saying is that you will believe this "research" so "wholeheartedly" that you would denounce any other form of interpretation or criticism, therefore making the "research" itself redundant. If the power of vulnerability is actually a tool that can be used, you have not yet figured out how to turn it on.
@fctchk, @tyjguy88 This women shares audience with other very successful research groups. They have all made very impressive breakthroughs. Dr. Brown with her research into "wholeheartedness", others with "slap-chop" and the "snuggie" and many more religious progam's that offer salvation for a small charitable donation. The only real "research" Dr. Brown has conducted is market research.
@leconfidant Advertising is the implementation of intricate market research. Nothing else. No advertisement is just "advertising"
It is a well planned attack at the basic part of our brain that tells us what we want and what we need, making the former and latter impossible to distinguish from one another.
I studied market research at university and implemented it since. Long story short, you can't pay the rent selling stuff people don't want or need. So a good deal of the research is identifying real needs and desires. They are hard to distinguish, but the truth is people often do want what they do need.
But I still don't see your citique. Which aspect of the research method was flawed / what other conclusion you would reach / what counter-evidence do you have?
@leconfidant I do not believe that any research into the idea of happiness is quantifiable. Mainly because happiness is not, and never will be, a constant. In order to conduct any true form of research there must be a constant variable, a variable that is given a precise value.
@thedocsadvokate Oh try "Shawn Achor: The happy secret to better work". It's another TED talk just released. He's really into quantifying and analysing happiness and I think it's good research. There's plenty of respectable research going into this because they have the same take on it as I do - If science can't make you happier, why bother with science? The results are non-exact, as is most psychology, but they are coherent, comparative, meaningful with instructive conclusions.
@leconfidant I will take a look! And again, good banter. I am not arrogant enough to say that I am right and you are wrong. Every well rounded response I read is used to adjust what opinion I have on the subject. It is nice to receive a real well rounded response for a change. So thanks for making me use my brain a bit! I did not go to school for any of this (or anything) and formulate my opinions on knowledge I gain on my own. So I have to respect that they may be wrong! MAY be wrong :D
@thedocsadvokate Oh not at all, my pleasure. Frankly, I think a lot of people 'liked' because of a general feelgood factor. There's a lack of rational skepticism and I enjoy engaging with the devil's advocates. But I think she started from the same bias as you and you would gain more than the 'I-want-to-buy-the-world-a-coke' watchers, because you would get closer to what she's saying when they're just projecting their assumptions and nodding. Anyway, respect and enjoy it.
@leconfidant Happiness cannot be given a value, therefore making the experiment impossible to execute conclusively. This "research" suggests that in order to be happy we need to accept what makes us unhappy. But if we don't do that then we will be unhappy. Making the idea of vulnerability and wholeheartedness redundant.
@thedocsadvokate I agree that these terms are highly relative and most researchers into happiness understand that, as I think Dr. Brown does. What she has done is specify definitions of happiness and so on, which clarify their mutual relationships and interpret the data according to the definitions. But people aren't chrystals and so you have to either give up on understanding people and follow your prejudices, or get down to non-exact research methods for what they can yield.
@leconfidant It suggests that the only way to be happy is to understand that we are all fundamentally unhappy to begin with. The product of this research is a loop, sending the kool-aid drinking parishioners home to chase the idea around in their head like a dog chasing its tail.
@thedocsadvokate Nah, I didn't read it like that at all. I can't really express how I read it, but after spending time with people dying, I got the sense that people who were adjusted to death and suffering had much better lives and relationships and they could accept death with a certain contentment and sense of humour. People who didn't died in a slow hell of fear and anxiety. Which kind of tallies with what Brown is saying. It also stopped me regarding happiness as success.
@leconfidant Personally, I believe the only way to be happy is to do what makes you happy. If you do not know what that is then you need to do some experimenting of your own to figure it out. Don't let the psychiatrists do all the research and tell you how to fix your problems. Do your own research. It's your life. Dr Brown received thousands of letters. From a pool of 400 million people. Hardly a fair dive into the best interest of you all. I wonder how many lecture tickets she sold though.....
@thedocsadvokate A lot of research on choice, freedom and happiness is counter-intuitive. People with greater ranges of choice frequently make observably worse decisions. People who lose quality of life often discover greater happiness. Successful people are perfectly capable of being thoroughly miserable. I bought Brown's book, because I want to get a wide base of research.
Most people figure, like you, that they know what makes them happy. And most of them aren't happy.
@leconfidant Of course I agree with you on the note of wants and needs. There must be an element of need to justify the want. My examples would include needing a form of transportation, and wanting a BMW. Needing a watch, but wanting a jewel encrusted one. On another note, I do enjoy your replies. You clearly know what you are talking about and the only thing better than someone agreeing with what you are saying is someone disagreeing with knowledge as a backup. Cheers to you.
Hmmmm. Do you suppose one resistance to being vulnerable and defending against shame is to try and inflict shame on others... like with snarky, negative response comments?
Her argument doesnt actually follow a clear progression. The points she does make from her research are all correlations. Maybe people who connect better with people are made to feel the stated emotions because of social processing rather than these emotions actually affecting their social connectedness in society.
@grimbeny Is that to say you don't think her points are valid or true? although correlation isn't always causation, I think the point is that in this case, it is. This is a very pessimistic view on humans as machines in my opinion.
When someone's video relates to people, then people watch it, and it becomes popular. And, then the detractors come in and try to rip it apart because they just can't stand it that someone else stepped up to the plate and made an impact. We'll call it, "Justin Bieber Hater Syndrome." I hear so many people saying bad things about that kid, and why?? That's the same thing that's going on here with these comments. Some of you people are so jealous of this woman that you can't stand it.
Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Effected me deeply. As an individual with seizure disorders I face many issues and realize now in many areas of my life i refuse to be vulnerable. Thank you for posting this video. I look forward to sharing with the community at National Seizure Disorders Foundation. Your videos are always good medicine.
@jfosorio ...and take it from somebody who has vulnerability issues, the stuff she says makes a lot of sense. My therapist actually recommended for me to watch this video because I'm a social work major and it really helps for me to have things explained in social worky terms.
Babies are not perfect. I believe you are confusing perfect and innocent. A baby has no knowledge, none when born. It is all instinct to survive. That does not a perfect person make. It is in fact an anti-social being who cares little about anyone but it self.
To me, I believe this is all too much from the 'head' - yes, she is a researcher and that's why but if you're spiritual at all (and I'm not talking religion, but spirituality) - you'd know all this stuff already.
And personally, I didn't like her bit about holding a baby and claiming it's wired for struggle etc etc.
Babies *are* perfect - it's the imperfections they get exposed to (at school, from their parents etc) which chips away at their perfection.
@Jez2008UK It's a more complicated by that. If what you say is true, then if we remove all the imperfection babies are exposed to (their school, their parents), we will raise them perfectly. But who struggles more than unschooled orphans?
I have probably watched this video close to 50 times. It's so valuable to hear, really hear this message. Of course, my favorite part is the last couple of minutes which gives you the "punch line". I love the positive message of how to accomplish having an effective life. Beautifully said.
@jfosorio FUCK you and all the people who have liked you're snoody remark. what good has it done? it sounds like to me that you're trying to blame someone else for your pain and discomfort.
@22zson Maybe she is right but the data she present in this talk don't support her conclusions. I can be wrong, this is why I say it SEEMS to me... I would like to know if it is true and this is was the idea of my comment. On the other hand your reply express quite a bit of discomfort.
I really enjoyed this talk ... I'm just wondering, why is it that we cannot selectively numb vulnerability, why does happiness and joy get numbed with it as well? does she mean that we lose happiness as a result of making ourselves invulnerable because we won't find connections/ love this way? or does she mean that we numb those positive feelings automatically when we numb harsh ones, regardless of what situations numbing vulnerability may bring about?
For those who this resonates with (like me), a profoundly insightful summary. I was left looking for the follow-up "how-to" video, then realized that's a story we each create for ourselves.
I really like TED stuff but I just cant understand what is going on with their inability to produce a profesional video product. Who in the world produces these shows? They have such a large audience you would expect them to be able to afford at least the bare minimum in profesional video engineering. At least a video engineer so it can be web optimised later down the line. I really wanted to watch this but I couldn't get past the home made standards.
It's true, as a college student, i've been vulnerable to my roommates, which changed my life in what i believe of connection. I was drawn so much closer when my roommates and I shared our darkest hurting secrets. From experience, I agree with her message.
i take it for what it is- a wonderful discovery that it's ok to be yourself- it's from that humble beginning that you get to discover the greater self that's just waiting to be unlocked- beyond pretenses, beyond fears. brene brown came from a very courageous space, and i can tell that she was very sincere here. i agree with her points as well- and these points are as are universal as the points we choose to look at. may those who see this find freedom in it. :)
It seems to me that one core reason that we all believe or come to believe that we are not good enough is the notion that we are born sinners and require redemption.
A ridiculous proposition but nonetheless one that is widely taught and believed.
My take on it is that we all have the God seed within and like a seedling feel vulnerable but that's OK as we will grow into GOD, in a good orderly direction, if we let go and let it happen.
Great Speech. One interesting hint to Brené: You repeatly ask us to feel "enough", you even reiterate it as the last and final reminder. Why, then, right afterwards, do you close a great and moving speech with "That's all I have"?
Great Speach. One interesting hint to Brené: You repeatly ask us to feel "enough", you even reiterate it as the last and final reminder. Why, then, right afterwards, do you close a great and moving speech with "That's all I have"?
@jhaus the whole speech was about vulnerability. That's all I have was her being humble and vulnerable while closing the speech...I think ? who knows.....see
This video is fantastic! Brené unravels the code of what makes the difference between a life filled with love and a sense of connection Or a struggle filled with shame and fear in which we numb ourselves!
But she does not give us an answer on HOW to do this. Check out the new method Past Reality Integration (PRI) via Google on exactly HOW to get to that beautiful place of connection, authenticity, and feeling worthy that Brené talks about!
Dr Brene Brown did give us one answer to the question of "How to live authenticity and with worthiness?" She found an answer after a year long street fight in counseling with a highly skilled therapist.
This is an awesome video! Watched it three times and took notes, then put it all up on my blog. I tried to just paste the notes in here but they're too long for the character limit...
@Drular it seems to me that she did a bunch of (real) research - then found out that she didn't really believe the "vulnerability" result inside herself. So she went and did a 1-year gut check. You think that's easy then try it - I will tell you from some personal experience that it will kick your butt 100 times more than any video game.
I don't know if sitting back and saying "i'm enough' and having another Twinkie is really going to help the planet or the people on it and I'm thinking of the WHOLE planet and everything on it, not just the people with personal insecurities. I don't think there is any room for patting ourselves on the back. There's too much work to do. Courage is actually stepping outside of yourself, not looking for solutions to what is bothering the inside of your self.
@electrasong The work we do on the inside is fundamental to making a difference on the outside. It's the place where we all need to start, otherwise we are not coming from our core and real change for humanity will not happen. If we come from our core (body will, heart and mind spirit in unison), we become amazing beings and allow others to do the same. If we just come from our heads, and deny our insecurities (which we all have, not just "insecure people") we'll just continue on the same path.
@dreamstate73 I agree with you in principal. I didn't mean that we should deny our insecurities or attempt to fix whatever is not 'sure' inside, but I think to obsess on yourself do not help the greater 'you'. And I've met so many people who are obsessing on themselves. Sometimes your 'self' is helped by your conduct in the outer world, when you spend time caring for things other than yourself, it has a magickal kind of balm for the 'self' and sense of self-purpose and value.
Thanks Electrasong for your comment that "sometimes your self is helped by your conduct in the outer world, when you spend time caring for things other than yourself". It reminds of a self-help book called "The Last Self-Help Book You'll Ever Need: Repress Your Anger, Think Negatively, Be a Good Blamer, & Throttle Your Inner Child" by Paul Pearsall.
@electrasong The work we do on the inside is fundamental to making a difference on the outside. It's the place where we all need to start, otherwise we are not coming from our core and real change for humanity will not happen. If we come from our core (body will, heart and mind spirit in unison), we become amazing beings and allow others to do the same. If we just come from our heads, and deny our insecurities (which we all have, not just "insecure people") we'll just continue on the same path.
I enjoyed the talk - I do wish there was nore attention on how to create connection, how to build wholehearteness - like Brene said she "just wants some strategies". Well I believe that inside a process call Appreciative Inquiry there is just such a strategy - of asking people questions that help them feel hope - and really listening to them answer. WOW I wish we could help the idea spread.
Beautiful~ and so true. Many of us are distancing ourselves from mystery, vulnerability and emotional risk these days~ the certainty is drying us up, making us brittle, and breaking us.
…this WAS ground breaking… thy heart bare as me bottom born… i am as inspired as i am torn… truth tasted with each tear shed… suicidal thoughts, now dead!
Wow Drular, way to totally miss it. I'm a scientifically minded guy, but you have to be blind to believe that everything can be quantified. Some things can only be resolved to "vague concepts". Ever wonder why neural nets are used in voice and facial recognition instead of standard algorithms?
Understanding human emotion in a complex social environment is far more complex and vague than that. This is life. She woke up to it. If you can't, oh well but don't act like you're ahead of the game.
@localman Wow. Thanks. I have always wondered why neural nets are used in voice and facial recognition instead of standard algorithms. The correlation is so clear...who could possibly miss the lesson there that life is complex? You are so ahead of the game.
@lakemara56 Of course you make some excellent points. Perhaps those who are not ready to approach Jungian tomes or "The complete works of The Buddha," or even reading up on Skinner, ( more your cup o' tea, methinks?" this "fluffy" approach offers a friendly, accessible entryway to an honest life.
@Drular Of course this sounds like "pseudo-science." How does one quantify emotion, quality of relationships, quality of life? By the amount of adrenaline in your system, or the number of "friends" you have on facebook? Maybe it's the number of cars you own. You are looking for science right? Numbers, measurements?
What is the point?
Others have tried to answer your question. I would say that fear drives most people and that is a lousy way to live.
@Drular Of course this sounds like "pseudo-science." How does one quantify emotion, quality of relationships, quality of life? By the amount of adrenaline in your system, or the number of "friends" you have on facebook? Maybe it's the number of cars you own. You are looking for science right? Numbers, measurements?
What is the point?
Others have tried to answer your question. I would say that fear drives most people and that is a lousy way to live.
she speaks truth. and little does she know...there's much biblical truth in what she is saying...so your comments on her concepts being vague, are true insofar as one not having an understanding of these truths and how God desires people to reach a state of 'wanting' to be vulnerable, whole hearted, and authentic with themselves, others, and above all, God. (my perspective)
and not living in a preconcieved approach to life and letting intuition guide but she builds it up forever and goes on and on about herself in her ego trip, thinking she's found out something so new. In fact in order to deal with our shame, which we all have in one way or another, is by understand our collective past as humans and what happened to us eons ago. Once we get that and why we are like we are then we wont be as easily pushed around anymore. This is like an infomercial. Old world stuff
Shonaripa 1 day ago
nice to see that Georga8 got it atleast, this woman got bigheaded from finding out few things (that arent new) and made it a "me, me, me" performance out of it with silly humor attempts here and there. People who listen to these things end up the same because this is so mainstream and on the entertainment level where they never rly take power back. This is just like Oprah, it's the attempt of sounding poetic but not really saying much. She basically says living outside of reptilian brain
Shonaripa 1 day ago
wow, looking at some of these comments...she hit the nail on the head...she is right about unworthiness and what it does to us.
jncc1701 4 days ago
another bloody Yanky with mindless dribble and vocal diarrohea who loves the sound of her own voce.
TheGeorga8 5 days ago
@TheGeorga8 kindly direct us to the site of the publications or seminars in which your ideas were put forth so that we might all have the opportunity to throw stones from the cheap seats as you have so eloquently done.
shodsteed 3 days ago
just because you believe that you are worthy of love doesnt make it magically appear in your life. lol
hillarymary 6 days ago
@victoriacmz You Hit the nail on the head!
rugged1529 1 week ago
Absolutely phenomenal
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jfosorio 1 week ago
Wow guys no offence but there is a lot of mental masturbation going on here and looking for things that aren't there
browser809 3 weeks ago 2
@browser809 ditto,a lot of vocal diarrhoea, another axample that a little knowledge can be dangerous,I think I will pick a topic research it to death and become a research story teller
TheGeorga8 5 days ago
"I know that's knowing laughter, I hack into your lives for a living." LOL
SethSutherland 1 month ago 2
Loved this video!
adancingspirit 1 month ago
Looking at the comments here...I can see so many people who simply reject the idea of vulnerability. Maybe just like how Dr. Brown struggled with vulnerability? It takes some time to get your fear and pride out of the way...
victoriacmz 1 month ago 2
very enlightening. i really need to work on being vulnerable in a good way, in the way that is necessary to being human. Thanks Dr. Brown for opening my eyes :)
wpgparamedic89 1 month ago
I love the idea of courage being telling the story of who I am with my whole heart. Collecting stories from people as research is something those of us in the arts & humanities have long understood as incredibly powerful. I applaud Dr. Brown's research and hope she continues on this path.
balau27705 2 months ago 2
interestingly she is researching healthy/happy/strong people
npronpro 2 months ago
My point is be sensible about vulnerability. Dr Brown's research applies to some cases and does not apply to others. Vulnerability is not a panacea to all of our problems. It does help you feel a bit better to not always be focused on perfection and invulnerability. It is similar to the power of prayer, which allows you to sub-consciously recognize your imperfection as you hand off all you worries to a "higher power", thereby relieving you off the stress. It helps. So does meditation.
meglam2007 2 months ago
@meglam2007 of course religion is only one path to having courage to accept our vulnerability and imperfection and the scariness of being out on the limb of total love.
npronpro 2 months ago
Most people with privilege, power, wealth, beauty, etc rarely encounter vulnerability to the extent needed to put together a good study about vulnerability. The optimist is the one who cheers you on when things are going great for him. Likewise, the ones who cheer you on about vulnerability did not invest all of their assets in 2008 on the day Lehman Brother's collapsed hoping that their vulnerability would bring together the collective consciousness of people at large to make them wealth.
meglam2007 2 months ago
I don't think she has ever encountered vulnerability. Vulnerability is when a man who according to a hot blonde woman is short, bald, or ugly tries to start a simple conversations with her. Vulnerability is when you give up all your money, assets, title and everything else to go on a journey to an unknown country for a spiritual awakening. Vulnerability is when the guy who went to Tienanmen Square stood in front of the Chinese army tank for a purpose, not knowing if he would return home alive.
meglam2007 2 months ago
Her logic does not account for reality though. You might ask a 1000 people out on dates and fall in love with all the wrong people and say that you love them. However, it's only the people you are compatible with that you can have lasting meaningful relationships. Heartbreaks are great if you want them, but seeking out the right partners does require thinking, analysis, prediction and control. To the extent that Black Swan events affect us, her kind of vulnerability will cause you only troubles.
meglam2007 2 months ago
Research = "The systematic investigation into and study of materials and sources in order to establish facts and reach new conclusions." It is not about controlling anything.
Brene's spiritual awakening was her adoption of Christianity.
What she is saying follows along the Christian belief that Christ's vulnerability to be nailed to the cross led to emancipation of the human soul.
Her logic is partly correct, that you have to be vulnerable to accept your imperfectness to connect with others
meglam2007 2 months ago
I celebrate her insight. It harmonizes well with a mystical-logical view of the universe.
thomasgordy 2 months ago
Now i'm wondering where the hurtful forms of comments are.
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incp108 2 months ago
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n3rd66 3 months ago
I don't care if this was considered un-scientific or whatever because it's up to how you accept and perceive in the end. Personally, I enjoyed listening to her thoughts and experience I never really thought much about the idea of vulnerability and it was eye-opening.
alostwolf 3 months ago 2
@jsh181 Bang your head with a hammer, then make your claim.
Whistlejocket 3 months ago
What most people never get, is that what she is talking about isn't in your head, it is in your feelings.
Whistlejocket 3 months ago
My Favorite Research Story teller <3 <3 <3
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@jfosorio FUCK you and all the people who have liked you're snoody remark. what good has it done? it sounds like to me that you're trying to blame someone else for your pain and discomfort.
22zson 3 months ago
@jsh181 The thousand of stories she received is the data that backed up her claims. She analysed that data and drew a conclusion.To me, that very clearly makes her a sociological researcher. Good day sir.
ljdbg 3 months ago 20
@ljdbg The plural of anecdote does not data make.
fctchk 3 months ago 9
@fctchk Outside of physics, what data isn't a story written in numbers?
leconfidant 1 month ago
@fctchk I will agree that she doesn't present her methodology well, nor is this a very well-organized talk. At the same time, my sense is that you are only aware of quantitative research design. Unfortunately, to measure open-ended and qualitative questions, quantitative measures are not enough. It is also unfortunate that the methods are not made more clear here. However, you can begin by reading Gregory Kelly's essay on epistemologies and Corbin and Strauss's text on grounded theory.
teachgriff 3 weeks ago
@fctchk
That's a foolish way of thinking. I suppose UFOs don't exist, at all, in any form, because we cannot look at the anecdotes of literally millions of people as having any credibility, despite their profession or intelligence? If everybody on Earth suddenly saw the sky as bright pink, would you ignore the testimony of 7 billion people as "worthless anecdotes"? I suppose you would, until you looked up at the sky and saw it for yourself.
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CleverDjembe 3 months ago
@jsh181 researchers also research...which is what she did.
freshenerable 3 months ago
Beautiful video! Thanks dr. Brown!
ElenineProductions 3 months ago 3
Excellent... i love storytellers!!! Love w ur whole heart, there's no guarantee. That sums it up precisely. Thank u Brene'
bearballin 3 months ago 2
Her name is Brené Brown and she is wearing brown clothes. That's my analysis.
richardcadbury 4 months ago
it's ringing true for me…thank you brene :)
bubblebath88 4 months ago
Love that comment above - research is to "find stuff out." Totally explains who is responding.
murd13 4 months ago 2
May God bless her!
RockyBalboa211 4 months ago
@DuhEnlightenedOne Care to elaborate?
fswmacguy 4 months ago
she says the reason why we're here is for connection. WRONG.
DuhEnlightenedOne 4 months ago
@DuhEnlightenedOne
Thats your view.
AnaLoGMunKy 4 months ago
@DuhEnlightenedOne
What do you believe we are here for?
thedogshouterer 2 months ago
@thedogshouterer We are here to glorify God. We are His creation and here to serve Him in everything.
DuhEnlightenedOne 2 months ago
where can i find more of her lectures? she is amazing!
thanks :)
QMoonHeartQ 4 months ago
It's the inability to be vulnerable and feeling safe being so that contributes so much to the hatred and self-abuse we find in our culture, esp among men.
Tarbh1947 4 months ago
This has helped me greatly ,thank you..
THEDRAGONBOOSTER8 4 months ago
hehe, @fctchk thinks he/she is superior to the rest of us idiots who thought this video was great. Sounds like fctchk may be a little insecure.
crazypurplebutterfly 4 months ago
dear fctchk, HOw is YOUR connection with other people? So easy to criticize someone's imperfection out of your own, and miss an important message here...what she is saying about love and connection and contributing to each others's lives is common sense, easily observed... if you don't have your own agenda for feeling your need to prove your superiority...throwing away an opportunity to take what you choose to learn from her life's work. @cupateantalk
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mspepperblack 4 months ago
brb measuring the universe
brb can't, the universe must not exist
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minesssify 5 months ago
@fctchk @lakemara56 Based on your comments, it appears you're proponents of "basic" versus "applied" research. Both (ideally) follow scientific method, but each have different end goals. google.com/search?q=applied+vs+basic+research+site%3A.edu+OR+site%3A.gov for more on that. I agree that pseudoscience is dangerous, when mistakenly offered as pure truth, but I also believe research that becomes popular due to relevance to the human condition shouldn't be disregarded just for that reason.
evansonearth 5 months ago
I love how these comments are a testament to "vulnerability". Half of the people on here are too vulnerable and frightened to be open minded.
AozoraX 5 months ago 3
@AozoraX It's also possible that "half" is able to tolerate their vulnerability and fear long enough to explore a construct with discernment and critical thinking. Vulnerability and fear, when not tolerated, can also make a person jump at any simplistic or thin explanation, swallowing it whole in the hope of some easy, temporary relief. Shaming people for posing a question or raising a doubt is an attempt to silence critical thinking.
lakemara56 5 months ago 5
I think you may be brainwashed on this subject. What you are really saying is that you will believe this "research" so "wholeheartedly" that you would denounce any other form of interpretation or criticism, therefore making the "research" itself redundant. If the power of vulnerability is actually a tool that can be used, you have not yet figured out how to turn it on.
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
@fctchk, @tyjguy88 This women shares audience with other very successful research groups. They have all made very impressive breakthroughs. Dr. Brown with her research into "wholeheartedness", others with "slap-chop" and the "snuggie" and many more religious progam's that offer salvation for a small charitable donation. The only real "research" Dr. Brown has conducted is market research.
thedocsadvokate 5 months ago 19
@thedocsadvokate It sounds like psychological research.
The market research you see in advertising, isn't market research, it's advertising.
Given that people aren't inert objects,
what kind of research can you name which you would respect as evidence?
Is any research on people possible or are you against psychology as such?
If you disagree with her findings, what is the weakness of the research method?
And while we're at it, what is your alternative hypothesis?
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant Advertising is the implementation of intricate market research. Nothing else. No advertisement is just "advertising"
It is a well planned attack at the basic part of our brain that tells us what we want and what we need, making the former and latter impossible to distinguish from one another.
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
@thedocsadvokate
I studied market research at university and implemented it since. Long story short, you can't pay the rent selling stuff people don't want or need. So a good deal of the research is identifying real needs and desires. They are hard to distinguish, but the truth is people often do want what they do need.
But I still don't see your citique. Which aspect of the research method was flawed / what other conclusion you would reach / what counter-evidence do you have?
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant I do not believe that any research into the idea of happiness is quantifiable. Mainly because happiness is not, and never will be, a constant. In order to conduct any true form of research there must be a constant variable, a variable that is given a precise value.
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
@thedocsadvokate Oh try "Shawn Achor: The happy secret to better work". It's another TED talk just released. He's really into quantifying and analysing happiness and I think it's good research. There's plenty of respectable research going into this because they have the same take on it as I do - If science can't make you happier, why bother with science? The results are non-exact, as is most psychology, but they are coherent, comparative, meaningful with instructive conclusions.
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant I will take a look! And again, good banter. I am not arrogant enough to say that I am right and you are wrong. Every well rounded response I read is used to adjust what opinion I have on the subject. It is nice to receive a real well rounded response for a change. So thanks for making me use my brain a bit! I did not go to school for any of this (or anything) and formulate my opinions on knowledge I gain on my own. So I have to respect that they may be wrong! MAY be wrong :D
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
@thedocsadvokate Oh not at all, my pleasure. Frankly, I think a lot of people 'liked' because of a general feelgood factor. There's a lack of rational skepticism and I enjoy engaging with the devil's advocates. But I think she started from the same bias as you and you would gain more than the 'I-want-to-buy-the-world-a-coke' watchers, because you would get closer to what she's saying when they're just projecting their assumptions and nodding. Anyway, respect and enjoy it.
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant Happiness cannot be given a value, therefore making the experiment impossible to execute conclusively. This "research" suggests that in order to be happy we need to accept what makes us unhappy. But if we don't do that then we will be unhappy. Making the idea of vulnerability and wholeheartedness redundant.
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
@thedocsadvokate I agree that these terms are highly relative and most researchers into happiness understand that, as I think Dr. Brown does. What she has done is specify definitions of happiness and so on, which clarify their mutual relationships and interpret the data according to the definitions. But people aren't chrystals and so you have to either give up on understanding people and follow your prejudices, or get down to non-exact research methods for what they can yield.
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant It suggests that the only way to be happy is to understand that we are all fundamentally unhappy to begin with. The product of this research is a loop, sending the kool-aid drinking parishioners home to chase the idea around in their head like a dog chasing its tail.
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
@thedocsadvokate Nah, I didn't read it like that at all. I can't really express how I read it, but after spending time with people dying, I got the sense that people who were adjusted to death and suffering had much better lives and relationships and they could accept death with a certain contentment and sense of humour. People who didn't died in a slow hell of fear and anxiety. Which kind of tallies with what Brown is saying. It also stopped me regarding happiness as success.
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant Personally, I believe the only way to be happy is to do what makes you happy. If you do not know what that is then you need to do some experimenting of your own to figure it out. Don't let the psychiatrists do all the research and tell you how to fix your problems. Do your own research. It's your life. Dr Brown received thousands of letters. From a pool of 400 million people. Hardly a fair dive into the best interest of you all. I wonder how many lecture tickets she sold though.....
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago 2
@thedocsadvokate A lot of research on choice, freedom and happiness is counter-intuitive. People with greater ranges of choice frequently make observably worse decisions. People who lose quality of life often discover greater happiness. Successful people are perfectly capable of being thoroughly miserable. I bought Brown's book, because I want to get a wide base of research.
Most people figure, like you, that they know what makes them happy. And most of them aren't happy.
leconfidant 1 month ago
@leconfidant Of course I agree with you on the note of wants and needs. There must be an element of need to justify the want. My examples would include needing a form of transportation, and wanting a BMW. Needing a watch, but wanting a jewel encrusted one. On another note, I do enjoy your replies. You clearly know what you are talking about and the only thing better than someone agreeing with what you are saying is someone disagreeing with knowledge as a backup. Cheers to you.
thedocsadvokate 1 month ago
Hmmmm. Do you suppose one resistance to being vulnerable and defending against shame is to try and inflict shame on others... like with snarky, negative response comments?
shibuitoo 5 months ago 5
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creativevirgo12 5 months ago in playlist Tim Holtz
Her argument doesnt actually follow a clear progression. The points she does make from her research are all correlations. Maybe people who connect better with people are made to feel the stated emotions because of social processing rather than these emotions actually affecting their social connectedness in society.
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lakemara56 6 months ago 2
@grimbeny Is that to say you don't think her points are valid or true? although correlation isn't always causation, I think the point is that in this case, it is. This is a very pessimistic view on humans as machines in my opinion.
witbrodt 1 month ago
This is one of the most important concepts a person can listen to. If they truly hear it, it can transform their life.
dorothyp5 6 months ago 4
I love this talk... its ojectivity in such a subjective world.
benjaluta 6 months ago
@kittymai123 The actual Ted Talk site edits commentary. Negative comments are there one day and gone the next.
lakemara56 6 months ago
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@lakemara56 "The actual Ted Talk site edits commentary. Negative comments are there one day and gone the next."
Thanks for that heads up. I had suspected it -the bahstards- (lol), but it's nice though sad to see it corroborated.
fctchk 5 months ago
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As an educator, I found value in the extreme "on the mark" commentary, research based of qualitative research, which often are very messy. Omega
Omega1ization 6 months ago
As an educator, I found value in the extreme "on the mark" commentary, research based of qualitative research, which often are very messy.
Omega1ization 6 months ago
When someone's video relates to people, then people watch it, and it becomes popular. And, then the detractors come in and try to rip it apart because they just can't stand it that someone else stepped up to the plate and made an impact. We'll call it, "Justin Bieber Hater Syndrome." I hear so many people saying bad things about that kid, and why?? That's the same thing that's going on here with these comments. Some of you people are so jealous of this woman that you can't stand it.
zdog1490 7 months ago 3
Thoroughly enjoyed the video. Effected me deeply. As an individual with seizure disorders I face many issues and realize now in many areas of my life i refuse to be vulnerable. Thank you for posting this video. I look forward to sharing with the community at National Seizure Disorders Foundation. Your videos are always good medicine.
NSDFbyTerrificTonya 7 months ago
@jfosorio ...and take it from somebody who has vulnerability issues, the stuff she says makes a lot of sense. My therapist actually recommended for me to watch this video because I'm a social work major and it really helps for me to have things explained in social worky terms.
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abrahamkirby390 7 months ago 5
Love this video and her message. Keep it coming and keep it real!!
scubapepe1 7 months ago
Babies are not perfect. I believe you are confusing perfect and innocent. A baby has no knowledge, none when born. It is all instinct to survive. That does not a perfect person make. It is in fact an anti-social being who cares little about anyone but it self.
kabreu54 7 months ago
To me, I believe this is all too much from the 'head' - yes, she is a researcher and that's why but if you're spiritual at all (and I'm not talking religion, but spirituality) - you'd know all this stuff already.
And personally, I didn't like her bit about holding a baby and claiming it's wired for struggle etc etc.
Babies *are* perfect - it's the imperfections they get exposed to (at school, from their parents etc) which chips away at their perfection.
Jez2008UK 8 months ago 4
@Jez2008UK It's a more complicated by that. If what you say is true, then if we remove all the imperfection babies are exposed to (their school, their parents), we will raise them perfectly. But who struggles more than unschooled orphans?
oldoldoldoldold 8 months ago
@oldoldoldoldold
You need to 'listen' to your own words - I mean, really 'listen' (pause, ponder, be detached and listen to 'the gaps').
If you are putting them into unschooled orphanages, then that is a big 'imperfection' is it not ??
A baby needs nurturing, love etc - all the things you get from the HEART.
So, yes, put them into an Orphanage and right away they have a big set of imperfections to deal with.
Peace to you.
Jez2008UK 8 months ago
Read her book(s) too!!! I love her! Even if you only work on self reflection, it's valuable.
predatorypoet 8 months ago 2
I have probably watched this video close to 50 times. It's so valuable to hear, really hear this message. Of course, my favorite part is the last couple of minutes which gives you the "punch line". I love the positive message of how to accomplish having an effective life. Beautifully said.
scubapepe1 8 months ago 3
We're all vulnerable but it's still ok to set boundaries.
shannonstoney 8 months ago
Well spoken with courage.
PinsonCosmetics 8 months ago
lol, awesome speaker! but guys you can check chris rugh too @ speakerchrisrugh,com he has business related topics and stuff
chrisrugh17 9 months ago
This seems too much guessing to mee.
jfosorio 9 months ago 111
@jfosorio FUCK you and all the people who have liked you're snoody remark. what good has it done? it sounds like to me that you're trying to blame someone else for your pain and discomfort.
22zson 3 months ago
@22zson Maybe she is right but the data she present in this talk don't support her conclusions. I can be wrong, this is why I say it SEEMS to me... I would like to know if it is true and this is was the idea of my comment. On the other hand your reply express quite a bit of discomfort.
jfosorio 1 week ago
I really enjoyed this talk ... I'm just wondering, why is it that we cannot selectively numb vulnerability, why does happiness and joy get numbed with it as well? does she mean that we lose happiness as a result of making ourselves invulnerable because we won't find connections/ love this way? or does she mean that we numb those positive feelings automatically when we numb harsh ones, regardless of what situations numbing vulnerability may bring about?
faintmelody 9 months ago
@faintmelody
The part of the brain which controls emotion is complex in how synapses activate to express emotions are not all black and white?
sintofg 2 months ago
Wow! Thank you so much. SO relevant for me right now! Bless you! <3
ChicagoDreamer5 9 months ago
i kind of knew this already, but I needed to hear it too. eep. so scared to make myself vulnerable. here we go
MissPepperme 9 months ago
Again. I am reminded I am worthy of something. Still figuring out of what
Genieinus 10 months ago
Our Pastor Shane Fuller showed this in church this weekend! Awesome! We had a great discussion afterward! :)
jbaum062406 10 months ago
For those who this resonates with (like me), a profoundly insightful summary. I was left looking for the follow-up "how-to" video, then realized that's a story we each create for ourselves.
jonrpatch1 10 months ago 2
Feels bad that i am not finding anything that she says as funny ! ( while i hear lot of audience laughing
dilipjoym 10 months ago
@dilipjoym I feel that people laugh because they can relate. I notice that people often laugh when they are embarassed.
vndogrue 10 months ago
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@dilipjoym I feel that people laugh because they can relate. I notice that people often laugh when they are embarassed.
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dilipjoym 10 months ago
We have to listen to someone who managed to find hapiness while calling herself Brene.
troublefist 11 months ago
I really like TED stuff but I just cant understand what is going on with their inability to produce a profesional video product. Who in the world produces these shows? They have such a large audience you would expect them to be able to afford at least the bare minimum in profesional video engineering. At least a video engineer so it can be web optimised later down the line. I really wanted to watch this but I couldn't get past the home made standards.
tillyfunk 11 months ago
no childhood shit... lol
very inspiring, an interesting this theory of vulnerability, i feel this, too! thx!!!
frithjof99 11 months ago
Inspiring. Stop being vulnerable stop joy and pleasure and , and...... . Breathtaking idea.
ckchristos 11 months ago
It's true, as a college student, i've been vulnerable to my roommates, which changed my life in what i believe of connection. I was drawn so much closer when my roommates and I shared our darkest hurting secrets. From experience, I agree with her message.
yeunju7 11 months ago
i take it for what it is- a wonderful discovery that it's ok to be yourself- it's from that humble beginning that you get to discover the greater self that's just waiting to be unlocked- beyond pretenses, beyond fears. brene brown came from a very courageous space, and i can tell that she was very sincere here. i agree with her points as well- and these points are as are universal as the points we choose to look at. may those who see this find freedom in it. :)
observer123watcher 1 year ago 4
Excellent
It seems to me that one core reason that we all believe or come to believe that we are not good enough is the notion that we are born sinners and require redemption.
A ridiculous proposition but nonetheless one that is widely taught and believed.
My take on it is that we all have the God seed within and like a seedling feel vulnerable but that's OK as we will grow into GOD, in a good orderly direction, if we let go and let it happen.
JohnLoty 1 year ago
Great Speech. One interesting hint to Brené: You repeatly ask us to feel "enough", you even reiterate it as the last and final reminder. Why, then, right afterwards, do you close a great and moving speech with "That's all I have"?
Really. It was enough! :)
jhaus 1 year ago
Great Speach. One interesting hint to Brené: You repeatly ask us to feel "enough", you even reiterate it as the last and final reminder. Why, then, right afterwards, do you close a great and moving speech with "That's all I have"?
Really. It was enough! :)
jhaus 1 year ago
@jhaus the whole speech was about vulnerability. That's all I have was her being humble and vulnerable while closing the speech...I think ? who knows.....see
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lakemara56 1 year ago 30
@lakemara56 And that's okay!
IamSooty 1 year ago
@lakemara56
Hello --- One question for now: What appears to be superficial about Dr Brown's research on how to live authenticity and with worthiness?
HealthyPlanet 11 months ago
@lakemara56 you are wrong.
smokeymcpotterson510 10 months ago
@lakemara56 Qualitative research can be just as valid as quantitative.
imshippyupup 10 months ago 2
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lakemara56 10 months ago 15
@lakemara56 My presupposition was wrong! That's never happened before ;-) Point well taken. Cheers.
imshippyupup 10 months ago
This video is fantastic! Brené unravels the code of what makes the difference between a life filled with love and a sense of connection Or a struggle filled with shame and fear in which we numb ourselves!
But she does not give us an answer on HOW to do this. Check out the new method Past Reality Integration (PRI) via Google on exactly HOW to get to that beautiful place of connection, authenticity, and feeling worthy that Brené talks about!
BosmanHelga 1 year ago
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Hello.
Dr Brene Brown did give us one answer to the question of "How to live authenticity and with worthiness?" She found an answer after a year long street fight in counseling with a highly skilled therapist.
HealthyPlanet 11 months ago
At 17:30-17:40 you say that certainty is wrong. Are you _certain_ that this is right?
KateGladstone 1 year ago
This is an awesome video! Watched it three times and took notes, then put it all up on my blog. I tried to just paste the notes in here but they're too long for the character limit...
My blog is Love's Guiding Light on wordpress!
AkiraDawnCoaching 1 year ago
@Drular it seems to me that she did a bunch of (real) research - then found out that she didn't really believe the "vulnerability" result inside herself. So she went and did a 1-year gut check. You think that's easy then try it - I will tell you from some personal experience that it will kick your butt 100 times more than any video game.
findyouryoga 1 year ago
I don't know if sitting back and saying "i'm enough' and having another Twinkie is really going to help the planet or the people on it and I'm thinking of the WHOLE planet and everything on it, not just the people with personal insecurities. I don't think there is any room for patting ourselves on the back. There's too much work to do. Courage is actually stepping outside of yourself, not looking for solutions to what is bothering the inside of your self.
electrasong 1 year ago 2
@electrasong The work we do on the inside is fundamental to making a difference on the outside. It's the place where we all need to start, otherwise we are not coming from our core and real change for humanity will not happen. If we come from our core (body will, heart and mind spirit in unison), we become amazing beings and allow others to do the same. If we just come from our heads, and deny our insecurities (which we all have, not just "insecure people") we'll just continue on the same path.
dreamstate73 1 year ago 2
@dreamstate73 I agree with you in principal. I didn't mean that we should deny our insecurities or attempt to fix whatever is not 'sure' inside, but I think to obsess on yourself do not help the greater 'you'. And I've met so many people who are obsessing on themselves. Sometimes your 'self' is helped by your conduct in the outer world, when you spend time caring for things other than yourself, it has a magickal kind of balm for the 'self' and sense of self-purpose and value.
electrasong 1 year ago 4
@electrasong
Thanks Electrasong for your comment that "sometimes your self is helped by your conduct in the outer world, when you spend time caring for things other than yourself". It reminds of a self-help book called "The Last Self-Help Book You'll Ever Need: Repress Your Anger, Think Negatively, Be a Good Blamer, & Throttle Your Inner Child" by Paul Pearsall.
HealthyPlanet 11 months ago
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@electrasong The work we do on the inside is fundamental to making a difference on the outside. It's the place where we all need to start, otherwise we are not coming from our core and real change for humanity will not happen. If we come from our core (body will, heart and mind spirit in unison), we become amazing beings and allow others to do the same. If we just come from our heads, and deny our insecurities (which we all have, not just "insecure people") we'll just continue on the same path.
dreamstate73 1 year ago
I enjoyed the talk - I do wish there was nore attention on how to create connection, how to build wholehearteness - like Brene said she "just wants some strategies". Well I believe that inside a process call Appreciative Inquiry there is just such a strategy - of asking people questions that help them feel hope - and really listening to them answer. WOW I wish we could help the idea spread.
trumpetmikes 1 year ago
We accept the love we think we deserve.
plastiswafers 1 year ago 2
She's fucking genius.
caruhjean 1 year ago
Beautiful~ and so true. Many of us are distancing ourselves from mystery, vulnerability and emotional risk these days~ the certainty is drying us up, making us brittle, and breaking us.
psipsychologytutor 1 year ago
…this WAS ground breaking… thy heart bare as me bottom born… i am as inspired as i am torn… truth tasted with each tear shed… suicidal thoughts, now dead!
3rdbyte 1 year ago
This is what I needed today.
Tinsymom1 1 year ago 2
Wow Drular, way to totally miss it. I'm a scientifically minded guy, but you have to be blind to believe that everything can be quantified. Some things can only be resolved to "vague concepts". Ever wonder why neural nets are used in voice and facial recognition instead of standard algorithms?
Understanding human emotion in a complex social environment is far more complex and vague than that. This is life. She woke up to it. If you can't, oh well but don't act like you're ahead of the game.
localman 1 year ago 4
@localman Wow. Thanks. I have always wondered why neural nets are used in voice and facial recognition instead of standard algorithms. The correlation is so clear...who could possibly miss the lesson there that life is complex? You are so ahead of the game.
lakemara56 1 year ago
@localman
Thanks for putting that into words for people who don't, can.
CriticalHammer007 11 months ago
fantastic talk!
ahtilaty 1 year ago
@lakemara56 Of course you make some excellent points. Perhaps those who are not ready to approach Jungian tomes or "The complete works of The Buddha," or even reading up on Skinner, ( more your cup o' tea, methinks?" this "fluffy" approach offers a friendly, accessible entryway to an honest life.
lasuperchica59 1 year ago
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@Drular Of course this sounds like "pseudo-science." How does one quantify emotion, quality of relationships, quality of life? By the amount of adrenaline in your system, or the number of "friends" you have on facebook? Maybe it's the number of cars you own. You are looking for science right? Numbers, measurements?
What is the point?
Others have tried to answer your question. I would say that fear drives most people and that is a lousy way to live.
lasuperchica59 1 year ago
@Drular Of course this sounds like "pseudo-science." How does one quantify emotion, quality of relationships, quality of life? By the amount of adrenaline in your system, or the number of "friends" you have on facebook? Maybe it's the number of cars you own. You are looking for science right? Numbers, measurements?
What is the point?
Others have tried to answer your question. I would say that fear drives most people and that is a lousy way to live.
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lakemara56 1 year ago
I am so grateful.
s9u1s9a 1 year ago
she speaks truth. and little does she know...there's much biblical truth in what she is saying...so your comments on her concepts being vague, are true insofar as one not having an understanding of these truths and how God desires people to reach a state of 'wanting' to be vulnerable, whole hearted, and authentic with themselves, others, and above all, God. (my perspective)
iamarutnevs 1 year ago
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