A World Civilisation or a Clash of Civilisations - pt 4

[georgio316]

If moderates listen to them, then they are obviously not moderates. There is no reason to kill anyone.

[gratex]

there's no danger in any radical group unless you give moderates reason to listen to them. our leaders know this.

[Duesseldog]

That applause for bin Laden was chilling... The similarities between Islam and Communism are indeed frightening. Both are inspired by utopianism. Funny how the ideas of Hyak become more and more relevant over time...

[molyuk]

Islamic ballistic missiles? The only Muslim country with nuclear weapons is Pakistan. Musharraf shows no desire whatever to go to war with the West, because he's not an idiot. Iran is working hard toward that very goal, because the ayatollahs are religious fanatics. Their first nuclear strike will be their last.

Potato eaters? That's the lamest insult I've ever seen. Surely the madrassa taught you better than that. On second thought, probably not.

[Tubed2MyBrain]

If the so called "civilized world" which is definitely Anglo-Americans "alone" is ready to fight Islam, Then Muslims have no choice but to defend themselves, from these potato eaters and preferably with Ballistic Missiles from Indonesian isles, Pakistani mountains, Saudi deserts, Turkish mosques, Egyptian universities and Nigerian deltas.

[flowmytea]

I doubt all billion Muslims will be on the side of the fanatics. Also, if you watch the video, Pipes is arguing that it is all the civilized world against Islam, and not merely the Anglos.

[brain681]

From the comments it seems that clash is imminent, so let's assume that all Anglo-Americans are fighting one billion Muslims in the near future, a Long War. I think Muslims might win the inevitable war imposed upon them from nostalgic, big mouth, half read, proud and inconsiderate Anglo-Americans.

[MatthewPA1972]

Wow, so some of the idiots in the audience applaud the words of Osama Bin Laden... is there anything left to be said of them, finally?

[delboyandco]

Most muslims support radial islam, how many muslims will protest the suhuman beasts Salma Yaqoob support for 7/7 describing it as a 'retaliation'? How many muslims protest anti muslims cartoon, how many muslims celebrate the holocaust with cartoons?

[timmmmm56mmmy]

Glad this was posted. Seems to have been unreported in the UK media, no doubt because Red Ken et al came off badly due to the coherent analysis of islamofascism by Pipes and Murray.

[Sabraguy]

A wise and scholarly analysis of the dangers of radical Islam. The support of leftists like Galloway and Pinter for Islamic extremism is disgusting and shameful.

[nomadfunk]

.. all the seeds of violence exist within the Quran and other holy books (hadith and sira), with the world sharply divided into the dar el islam (house of submission) and dar el harb (house of war). Muhammad himself set off the first jihad (holy war, not some form of yoga) 1400 years ago. Why is Pipes saying that teh problem is not Islam as a religion but radical, ideological Islam? Its a false distinction.

[nomadfunk]

Islam, as Robert Spencer and others have shown, has since its inception made no distinction between religion and ideology (or the state) ..

[nomadfunk]

Pipes is an excellent commentator on Islam, and makes more sense than most such commentators. But I think, perhaps in order to play it safely with the audience - anticipated to be hostile to his views - he underplayed Islam's inherent radicalism.

[greersome]

Brilliant. Unlike Red Ken, it seems Pipes has actually commented on the topic at hand. Over 50 people died a few blocks from my home in London. Killed by British citizens. THAT is the result of Ken's "get along" strategy.

[scouserguy]

So true Red Ken is an idiot everyone in the UK should be paying attention To Radical Islam read Londistan and celsius 7/7 esp with the banning of Holocaust day in bolton Dhimmi Ken must love that.

[chad9353]

Everone should here this, but sadly people have their heads in the sand.