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  • I got trained with Sabre Red Crossfire mk 3.5 today, the Stream spray, not the cone like this one, it fucking SUCKS.... i had a reaction to it so bad that I had to have an ambulance come and flush my eyes with saline x___x

  • they ar way too close. you can acually cause eye damage because of that

  • Fourth guy looked like he had his lips parted when he got sprayed and probably got a mouthful of the stuff. Ouch.

  • One of my friends almost got raped a few days ago by a bunch of idiots. Hopefully the police came before anything happened. So I've just bought a pepper spray of 18%. I think every girl should owe one in case something like that happens.

  • lol i remembered when i was a kid, i aws really careless and forgot pepper burns.. so we had this ripe small red peppers in our back yard.. i crushed them up.. and my eyes started itching lol.. the pain was horrible

  • А наши силовики в России пока так не делают, хотя классная пси-подготовка.

    Да и ГБ "КОНТРОЛЬ" покруче сабре будет

  • Pepper spray burns instantly and worse than cs or tear gas!

  • thats so fuckin stupid in the real world when r u gunna see thatur gunna be sprayed u wuldnt have time to close ur eyes so it wuld be worse then this

  • what do u think is worse sabre red or phase 4

  • I would think in a "real life" encounter it would be worse for a bad guy since there is no warning to close your eyes and open back up after spraying. Someone who feels threatened pulling it out from a concealed spot quickly would have that element of surprise.

  • To anyone who has experienced it, which is worse? Tear Gas or Pepper Spray?

  • Everyone looks fucking stupid doing this training...I think its stupid cuz once that happens to you...your fucked dumb training...this country is better than that

  • Everyone looks fucking stupid doing this training...I think its stupid cuz once that happens to you...your fucked

  • wow you guys are soooo hardcore! Now try serving in combat pussies.

  • Is saber red much more painful than OC? I got OCed today for the first time and just that was way enough. Of course I could still fight in the first minute or so but after that its about 25 minutes of pure pain.

  • I'm A First responds Officer in The Bahamas, I've been Tased & Sprayed with Sabre Red For training, I Carry Both Taser & Pepper Spray as Back up But I Switched To WildFire Riot 9 oz Pepper Spray. Got called out to a Gang fight at a Party, came one second late. saw a gang member got fatally stabbed to the heart, Sprayed the fighters Down. I won't Lie to you, I got abit for the Backlash, Saber Red felt Nothing like this Stuff, The Crowd disburse in less that 10 sec wildFire over Saber Red Any day.

  • Sorry I'm not a police officer... I just want to know, what's the purpose of this training? Why do the officers get sprayed on their faces?

  • @MrQuackism I think they got sprayed to learn how to deal with the potential situation of criminals armed with self-defense sprays or lacrimogen gas. At least, In Argentina, police officers are trained in the same way with that purpose. Sorry for my bad english.

  • @MrQuackism i think its so they know what it feels like so they dont use it lightly or something like that. or incase they get sprayed or if there spray gets a little in there face so they can keep fighting. idk.

  • Do you have to get OC Sprayed at the academy if you have asthma? (mild of course because you wouldn't be allowed to enlist if you are a sever asthmatic).

  • i had to use this stuff on 2 guys that were trying to rob me. i was using the civilian stuff but i caught some blowback from it in my one eye and its effective. it had my one eye tearing up and burning for and hour, even a little after i rinsed it.

  • @mycrimsonregrets Were you using a stream or cone type of delivery system? How effective was the spray against your targets? If you wouldn't mind, I would like to hear the details of what happened.

  • @FlyinZX10R sure, no problem. i was using the stream type and i believe it was 10% oc. it seemed to be pretty effective on them as they got the full dose and the tiny bit i got in my eye closed my eye up right away, it started tearing up and i could at least see. adrenaline was also probably a factor. i wish it was more concentrated and had more shots per can. i went with the smaller one due to being able to pull it out and not struggle getting it out of my pocket.

  • @mycrimsonregrets you probably used the one where its like a shotgun and expels the entire pepper spray in one blast, my mom has one and when i used it on the ground it came back at me like a bitch and i was on the floor in less than i second

  • @Willsturd i don't think so, it sprayed for a good 5-10 seconds. i also had some left in there as well after the confrontation.

  • Would you rather get sprayed with Sabre Red in the face or get drive stunned in the balls by a TASER?

  • @RayAir1 wow, thats a tough one lol. i'll have to think about that one for a few years lol

  • @RayAir1 sprayed.

  • Drive stunned. At least it stops after a few seconds.

  • @t239 no dude, ur balls will propably fall off in a minute or two :D

  • @RayAir1 would you rather get sprayed with sabre red in the balls or get drive stunned in the face with a taser ? :D

  • The recruits and I had to keep our eyes open when we got sprayed and if we closed them before we got hit....we'd get another spray of it...that was not a fun day

  • I'm getting sprayed with Fox 5.3 next month for certification. I currently carry Sabre CS (1.5% CS). That's right, straight CS mace. I've never had it not affect someone. It's brutal. It's far better than that junk Def Tec 5.5% PepperMace crap we use to use.

  • I like the video, but I am not a fan of the music :-)

  • WE got hit with Fox 5.3 while we were in the cs chamber. I would rather die than go through that again

  • Sabre Red Sucks but Fox 5.3 sucks worse try getting maced while your in the cs chamber. You will wish you were dead.

  • Sabre Red is good but Inferno is even more effective. Both are good options.

  • Its bad lol

    not fun at all

  • watch my RESPONSE

  • Love comments like 'sabre red sucks' & 'CS is worse- I done been in da army'

    I use gas for a living, in a prison. CS sux. Inmates (and officers) can work thru it & keep fighting. OC/CS mixtures (like Freeze+P) hurt worse than CS, breathing is still tough, but doesn't hurt AT ALL for a few seconds. Sabre Red (10%) = instant total blindness and brutal pain. We were ready for it, but surprise someone with it & it's over. Max-lvl J3's with nothing to lose are vicious adversaries. Sabre ends aggro.

  • I agree completely, we use freeze + p, its bad but not as bad as sabre red, ever hear of fox 5.3?? 5.3 million shu's!!!

  • Excellent post. I used to carry Sabre Red DPS, but have switched to Fox 5.3. Ive tested a few of the sprays on myself and Fox is by far the worst and fastest acting.

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  • @WreckedDixie I actually got hit with the Sabre Red friday. It was a water based fogger with the marking agent. It looked very similar to what was sprayed here. But yes.. Sabre Red was an excruciating pain that compares to nothing else I've ever delt with before. As far as quickness, Sabre was pretty fast acting. I've heard from several people that were in the military that CS is not as bad as OC and that out of Freeze plus P and Sabre Red, Freeze is a little worse. But still.. it sucked.

  • Ouch! Tomorrow Ill be going through almost the same thing (Im a recruit at The Swedish National Police Academy). Im looking forward to it in some strange way =)

  • @hogtalare76 howd it go

  • @iQsLukeMc I was calm and did all the drills quite well (hitting mitses, spraying an 'agresseive man' with OC, ordering him to the ground and then cuff him) - but man, the pain was even worse than I thought it would be. Before the drill the teacher said to us: You wonder if it will hurt!? It will not hurt! It will hurt as hell! =)

  • @hogtalare76 yeah dude....i had it done yesterday...it fucking sucks worst than you think

  • @Masalind0 Yes it does! We trained ice rescue, swimming in ice cold water the day after the OC drill and I'm telling you, I prefere the ice cold water before OC =)

  • How did you like your Oc experience?

  • did not like!!!! watch my response!

  • Try Vexor?

  • yeah, its hot, but doesn't work as fast or as effective as something like Fox Labs. The Vexor produces alot of heat, but it has a slow buildup and is designed not to effect a persons breathing. I've had Vexor, Fox and Sabre Red DPS in my face, and the Fox Labs was the worse to experience of any of them. it was near panic level pain.

  • Ouch!!!!!

  • That's good to know. I'm glad I carry Fox Labs.

  • D bags

  • yeah, youtube made me delete the original music I had with it.

  • nice video..safe to say sabre red sucks lol as does any other oc or pepper spray.

  • just had this done to me today it sucks

  • that looks some mean but very very good training

    regards

    francokrav

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  • i dont think its worse than cs gas tho....

  • ahah deff not i went through it in the army in a 10x10 room for 2 min ahaha u kinda get use to it ahah

  • it has cs gas in it, it is made of a mixture my dad makes it

  • Sabre Advanced has CS tear gas mixed in with it. Sabre Red DPS is a stright 1.33 %CRC pepper spray.

  • @FlyinZX10R

    Sabre Advanced is 1.5%CS and I don't know the % of OC in the blend, but the MC value is .33%. So this spray is mostly CS with a little pepper. The Sabre Red has 1.33% major capsaicinoids.

    Sabre makes a level 1 spray called Sabre Defense which is 10% OC, .33%MC. So Sabre advanced would be like combining Sabre Defense and Sabre CS.

  • oh thats not fair when i got sprayed for my academy i had to keep my eyes open and take it straight on. i wish i could have kept my eyes closed. to make it worse i had my contacts in big mistake....

  • oleoresin capsicum + heart + goal orientation = one bad son of a bitch!!!

    try milk and shaving cream .... milk breaks down the pepper and shaving cream absorbs the oil from your face...

  • that sux man im only 14 but have ben maced some how my feriend got his hand on something call the pink gun or sumtin and let lose on me

  • @just1not2kool3 what a great friend huh? O.O!

  • we have to get pepper sprayed in police academy men im'a hate this

  • Yep - OC spray sucks hardcore. I stood in an icy cold shower for 30 minutes after I got sprayed in training. Not fun stuff. My advice: don't get pepper sprayed!

  • Well, they look like fairly tough, macho cops, so f*ck you to all those twats who disrespect people for screaming when maced or tazed by the cops, even the cops don't f*cking like it. (Must get me some of that stuff for the NWO).

  • dont likt it but still do it lol not that im indulting them

    but did they really have to taze the guy in head

  • Guy's, Try Vexor!!!!!

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  • nothig feels like sabre red!!!!!!!!!!!

    SABRE RED

    MACE

    FOX

    CAP STUM (vexor)

  • haha, sitting in front of the fan. I remember sitting in front of a fan for about an hour and a half after getting sprayed (freeze +P)

  • Thay must have really bonded through this.

  • Dude that song is extreme.

  • I been in law enforcement six years and had to recert again today. Hurt as bad this time as the first 23 times I had to pass the training. Build a tolerance my ass. Love the video though, oh and good luck rookie.

  • i am so afraid of this, i am now in an aux. part-time 2 course, and we will have to go through this.

  • My class we got shot and had to break up a fight with 2 guys in redman suits and get them cuffed.... this looks about the same but with your firearm? Why?

  • NOT the same as pepper spray.much worse!

  • The music ruined it.

  • they popped me for the music that i had on it, so I had to replace it with something youtube approved of. :(

  • thanks for the reply I thought 13.3 was a little much but thats what they have posted on their site.

  • does anyone know anything about UDAP pepper power spray? I find their claims hard it believe 10% OC (2 million SHU 13.3% Capsaicinoids)

  • the UDAP spray is actually 1.33% crc, not 13.3. I've walked into an area that i had fired my UDAP spray and some of it was still airborne enough to get into my eyes. I dropped my spray and covered my eyes. mt second reaction was to put my hands on my vehicle to feel more secure since i couldnt see. I believe they have a 3.0 crc spray available now too.

  • KO Pepper Spray Is The BEST!

  • Ive heard that KO is very potent, but I don't think its available here in the USA.

  • well imo sabre red is way more hotter

  • i have an spray sabre red

  • never been sprayed with sabre red but i have been sprayed with vexor v7 which is 15 million shu, i thought i was going to die

  • we do this in the coast guard.. not fun at all

  • Yeah, I had to do it at A-school in Yorktown..suuucks.

  • torture training? O.o

  • my uncle is in the coast guard and he had to do this :P

  • this song is crazy man u retarded or sumin

  • I love it - they spray the female trainee twice as long. Way to go!!

  • go fuck yourself , you think women are so good , they get treated like shit , well fuck you. wake up no one cares anymore. there treated equally

  • I wish this song would go away from youtube.

  • LOL.

  • damn flirting with a drunk girl will do the sameS

  • yes, sabre red is strong and will burn ! I just got sprayed for training and sabre red is no joke! the guy that thinks law enforcement sabre red is weak is smoking some good ganja!

  • LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Can anyone tell me the difference between a SABRE RED MK3 RED CAN and a SABRE RED MK3 LAW ENFORCEMENT BLUE CAN ? Thx.

  • I think the stuff in the red can is the foam, but im not sure. The blue can is the water based spray and the black can is the alcohol based spray. Trust me, get the black. (The Sabre Red DPS)

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  • I use Fox Labs, and Sabre, Fox Labs hurts way more and is better quality, but Sabre is better for your walet, and you can barely tell it hurts slighty less. Also Sabre generally has more shots in it.

  • worse fucking feeling ever!!! omg this shit suxxxxxxx

  • yes, it is red dye. It's added so you know where you're spraying and if you hit your subject where you wanted to hit him. And the guy who said that Sabre red(new version) is weak, must be on crack. In all my law enforcement years, i've been sprayed a few times, recently for training with Sabre Red, and it is by far the strongest and most painful version up to date.

  • I have a regular Sabre spray that came with a compact keychain spray. I actually sprayed myself with it by accident like a dumbass (take it as a training class) and it burns like hell... Plus i only caught the mist, it burned my eyes, cut my breathing to half and lasted like 5 minutes and disabled me from doing anything for about 30 minutes.. So we probably got the same thing without the red dye... My mace has the UV dye, so.... Im good i think.

  • Sabre Red is good stuff. I use it at work and it's rated at 2,000,000 SHU... so yeah, whoever said it was weak was on crack.

  • do they add red dye or something

    looks like paint

  • I am going through Mobile Police Academy. We use the water base SR and it is no freakin joke. The only problem I see these other academies are doing is not enough training after the spray. We had an opsticle course the length of a football field to complete befroe we got any help with decon!!!

  • Sabre Red is pretty effective. Its rated at 2,00,000 SHU.  Its what I use on duty and what I use to train my cadets at the academy.

  • I just got a 70 gram bottle i got from a sporting goods store... It just says Sabre, the letters are red, is it the same stuff?

  • Probably not, as true Sabre Red is called just that Sabre Red, and is police issue only. A lot of the stuff at sporting good stores is Pepper Spray or Mace.....not nearly as potent.

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  • no its not police issue only you can buy it online. I carry it as a security officer.

  • Its not police issue only.

  • tbh sabre red is quite weak i used one which is supposldy the strongest, i think it was called wildfire i could be wrong but thats what i heard and it f**cking hurts haha!

  • That spray looks about as effective as a string condom.

  • Umarex Pfepper KO Fog would be stronger a bit...

  • Looks like their Feeling good in some pictures.. High as Shiit ;)

  • lol 0:16 whoa!

  • i meant 1:16

  • :)Video is nice music make its bit funny

  • Now that's some good shit, finally i found a police academy who does shit rite, all the others suck, good job guys

  • good shit, takes alot to keep your head straight after that.

  • haaaahaaa

  • German Pfeffer KO FOG (or JET) rules. Very evil thing

  • yall think Sabre Red is something. I got sprayed with some stuff called Top Cop in training yesterday and it's oil-based and burned all day long and some of today too!! It's a bad feeling!!!!! lol

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  • I feel yalls pain. I recently went through pepper spray training, I think it is good training for all cops but would not want to go through it again.

  • See? Girsl can take it better.

  • so is sabre red better than fox labs????

  • I would say its a toss up between either one. The Fox Labs works slightly faster, but the Sabre Red burns alot longer and comes out with alot more force/speed. I believe the quality control is better on the Sabre Red than the Fox Labs, as every batch of OC for the Sabre Red is HPLC tested for consistency. Ive heard of the Fox Labs spray testing as low as .33 crc, while the Sabre Red is guaranteed to be 1.33 crc. Both of them will do the job though. I just prefer the Sabre Red.

  • Man I feel your pain......

  • 'You had a bad day'. In more ways than one. I HATE that song SO much! You deserve all the pain and whatnot just for playing that CRAPOLA song! :-)

  • I was just sprayed with Vector yesterday for Corrections Training. I am here to attest that it sucks big time. I can only say that it felt like someone sprayed me with a blow torch for 30 consecutive minutes. Kudos for all of my fellow law enforcement and soldiers that have had it.

  • Here in spain we can buy only the CS spray.

    the OC is much better no?

  • You should bring your spray to a gun fight, along with your gun. Not every situation warrants deadly force.

  • Yeah... you should bring whatever you can to a gun fight. If "only" spray, it's better than no spray. "Never use spray on a person that has a gun or knife" is very bad advice. Use what's available and what the situation warrants.

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  • yes oc spray is more effective than CS in incapacitating people.

  • You can buy Sabre Red OC in Spain!!! is legal!!!!

    (puedes comprarlo en España, es legal, mira por ejemplo la pagina de armeria la jungla, alli he comprado ya 4 a unos 15-18 euros...)

    salu2!!!!

  • OC is alot more effective than CS. OC works on people who have a high tolerance for pain or are psychotic. OC takes effect in about a second, while CS can take up to 20 seconds to get working. OC is also in inflammatory agent, which causes the eyes to swell and tear, causing temporary blindness, the nose to swell shut and discharge mucous, the mouth, throat and lungs also swell and make it very difficult to breathe. Lots of coughing, sneezing and burning too.

  • I've seen both OC & CS sprays have zero effect on people under the influence of drugs or mentally deranged. These sprays only work on normal people. And never use a defense spray on a person that has a gun or knife because they will still use that weapon against you.

  • I've sprayed the same person on 2 occasions. He was a heavy coke user. The first time was with stream of CN tear gas, and on another occasion with a blast of Capstun OC. They both worked, and the element of surprise made them both more effective. On the 3rd occasion that he threatened me, I showed him my 1911 .45 acp and never saw him again after that.

  • It seems that this "heavy coke user" keeps returning and harassing you. Why have you never called the police? Twice you sprayed him and once you pulled a pistol on him. Obviously this coke head wants something you have.

  • This was many years ago. The first time I sprayed him cuz he punched my friend in the face. Later he attacked me because i had sprayed him before.  We went to the cops both times but they wouldn't do anything. I told the cops that next time he attacked I would shoot him. They said they would then arrest me. They wont arrest the criminal, but they will arrest the law abiding citizen defending themselves. I made a complaint to the DA about the cops + the DA forced the cops to make an arrest.

  • If the coke head comes back again, get a bat and use his head as a baseball. Then he'll be a crack head :o)

  • Jesus, that's terrible. I'm glad you took action. It's always a few jackasses making a bad name for everyone else.

  • It was about 20 years ago that I sprayed him. If that nutcase comes around again, i'll hose him with my Sabre Red DPS. Other things I like about the Sabre Red DPS (and all SEC products) is strict quality control. Their "DPS" units also use Dymel 134a/P as a propellent, which mixes with the carrier and allows more fluid in the can, makes the last shot just as powerful as the first, and propels the liquid out with alot of force/speed. They also HPLC test every batch for heat consistency.

  • water based sabre red mk3 has 10 bursts sabre red DPs mk3 has like 30

  • I usually carry a MK2 cone, but sometimes carry a MK3.5 cone. Just depends on what Im wearing and where im going.

  • man you're right! fucking cops ,they protect the criminals

    more then the citizen.that's make me fucking sick!

    good thing you didn't shoot him because they would arrest you for sure!and now you could be in jail while this crack-head son of a bitch could be walking down the streets!

    me,i got oc spray,a pocket knife and a pocket gun!

    i also practice some martial arts.

    i got attacked a few years ago , my girl-friend too, only

    2weeks ago,and my girl's sister too!

    don't worry,everybody's ok! :)

  • what's the difference between regular sabre red and Sabre red DPS unit? and why doesn't DPS unit show up on their website? is it for police only? I believe those are the one with blue canister with flip top.

  • blue canister Sabre red is water based. Sabre red DPS is oil based. SABRE red DPS and H20are law enforcement forumlations but civilians may buy them also.

  • Im pretty sure that the Saber H20 cans are safe to use with tasers and the DPS cans some of them are not safe to use with them

  • yes thats right.

  • haha, man, they got to close their eyes, that's not fair. We had to have ours open, talk about your eyeball on fire...I couldn't even feel it on my skin it was all about the eyeballs.

  • that's how people shoot their fingers off so often. Why on earth train to stick your hand out with pistol drawn?!

  • This stuff isn't sh*t..we get hit with stuff rated approximatle 10 times worse...its called VEXOR..OC feels like a sun burn and thats it.

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  • Are you sure you read it properly ? I just have my can of sabre red standing next to me on the table and on the tag it says "10% OC" - that would be quite a bit stronger than 1.33% :-)

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  • Hi seems like you know a lot about Sabre Red. I've bought an Sabre Red P-22 is that one good?

    I've chose it because it's so small and perfect to carry... Do you have any experiences with the P-22?

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  • Oh that's cool thanks a lot for your answer.Oc and Cs in one spray? that sounds nasty but i think that is prohibited in germany, anyway from what i've heared the Sabre Red Pepper is hot enough :D

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  • Thank you - so most manufacturers try to cheat you with this percentage. As a normal consumer OI would think that First Defense and Sabre Red are of equal strenght due to the percentages. So I was lucky to follow the recommendation of teh American Rifle´s dealer association when I bought it :-)

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