maybe for Shadows of the Empire? Still, I think there should have been music for this sequence. I still don't know why Lea didn't shoot the bike instead of confronting him.
Horrible. You have should have chosen some earlier Goldsmith scores, such as Capricorn One, Night Crossing, Mines of Solomon, First Blood, Coma, Poltergeist, and Legend.
hmmm I love Goldsmith, and Williams, and I appreciate what you did with this scene. Sure the cues fit well but I didnt 'feel' the middle eastern theme (as expected from the Mummy track) actually worked. Good stuff though :)
Nice fit. Walking around the redwoods earlier today I'd have to say that there's no way you could go that fast in a redwood forest. Lucas should have had the hoverkraft emit sensor lasers in front that had an onboard computer autopilot
the craft. The unbelievability of some of the scenr pops me out of the movie sometimes.Still it is a great scene despite the minor imperfections. Star Wars fanatic please tells us the name of the hoverkraft. (?)
Thanks for all the comments, guys. Even the other ones. It's all feedback and it's all welcome. I would like to do some of the recut trailers more than these Synchronicity clips....all just experiments to pass the time....
I liked it, but two things. First this scene originally had no music for a reason; to contrast the silence of the forest with the sounds of high tech. Second, dafmurray says Jerry mostly wrote darker themes. That's where he found himself typecast, but he was perfectly capable of doing any kind of music. He was excelled at small movies, like "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn," "The Sand Pebbles," or "Anna and the King." Those are the kinds of scores he preferred to write.
Star Trek The Motion Picture & Star Wars, E.T. & Poltergeist. The Wind and the Lion is the closest Goldsmith came to Korngold's and William's style: 'Jaws' is the best Goldsmith-style score not written by Goldsmith. I doubt Goldsmith would have socred Star Wars in the way Williams did, even with George Lucas insisting on that style. It just wasn't Goldsmith's approach to socring films. Goldsmith was better at scoring darker/downbeat films, while Williams had no peer at romantic/heroic music.
I don't know if a cue from the Mummy is the best way to speculate on what Jerry Goldsmith might have done for a Star Wars movie. The Mummy's music is too middle eastern in style. If one looks at the films Williams and Goldsmith did in similar genres -- Indiana Jones vs. King Solomon's Mines & The Mummy, or Jurassic Park vs. Baby, or Superman vs. Supergirl, you'd get a better idea of how similarly they approach those genres.
I wonder if the director of 'The Mummy' had used the speeder-bike chase sequence from 'Return of the Jedi' in pre-production to model editing and photography of an action sequence in 'The Mummy'. After all George Lucas used WWII dogfight footage to create the editing and special effects template for 'Star Wars'.
An interesting experiment and quite well done even if the end result is a bit odd. I am a big Jerry Goldsmith fan, he's one of my all-time favourite composers. But somehow a Star Wars movie just doesn't sound quite right without John Williams doing the music. An entertaining clip though. Three stars.
Goldsmith is the man. That was a really good selection to put with that scene. The more I listen to Jerry's music, the more I think that guy was the best composer who ever lived. If you hear his score for THE TWILIGHT ZONE movie, you can see he was really trying to impress Spielberg, but I guess to no avail. I love John Williams, but Goldsmith made EVERY score sound amazing. Williams has a tendency to be derivative of himself.
Is Williams derrivative, or is he just capitalizing on a a distinctive sound that works well for films and that fans such as myself enjoy?
Also note that Williams has written roughly a gazillion scores, so at one point or another he's bound to give the impression, grounded or not, of being derivative.
Man that was Awesome! The counterpoint of the tambourine put a whole new spin on that chase sequence. Williams didn't even score that part of the film.
THAT WAS CLASSIC!! If you go to my profile and watch the time travel film 'equidistant' this track also fits perfectly with the chase sequence in 'part 2'. In fact, the music inspired the images before I filmed it.
Jerry Goldsmith has been one of, if not the, favorite of mine when it came to film scores. Legend and the Star Trek films are among his best, in my opinion.
But as Goldsmith always said, the music for a certain should remain the music for this certain film. The whole temptrack-affair is for most composers a pain in the butt.
But I'm really impressed of the parallels you've found here (only that Williams never scored the whole chase sequence...), still... GOOD JOB! Keep it up!
Incredible! It's hard to imagine how this is just a coincidence. Or maybe Goldsmith actually knew about this? The synchronicities at the end are mind boggling, just on cue for the explosions. And it fits the action/mood of the scene. Keep up the good work!
definitely a detriment to the film if it had been. fun though anyway
dml7788 2 weeks ago
maybe for Shadows of the Empire? Still, I think there should have been music for this sequence. I still don't know why Lea didn't shoot the bike instead of confronting him.
3089280288 10 months ago
maybe for Shadows of the Empire? Still, I think there should have been music for this sequence.
3089280288 10 months ago
Horrible. You have should have chosen some earlier Goldsmith scores, such as Capricorn One, Night Crossing, Mines of Solomon, First Blood, Coma, Poltergeist, and Legend.
RogueRotting360 1 year ago
hmmm I love Goldsmith, and Williams, and I appreciate what you did with this scene. Sure the cues fit well but I didnt 'feel' the middle eastern theme (as expected from the Mummy track) actually worked. Good stuff though :)
sithjculley 1 year ago
Nice fit. Walking around the redwoods earlier today I'd have to say that there's no way you could go that fast in a redwood forest. Lucas should have had the hoverkraft emit sensor lasers in front that had an onboard computer autopilot
the craft. The unbelievability of some of the scenr pops me out of the movie sometimes.Still it is a great scene despite the minor imperfections. Star Wars fanatic please tells us the name of the hoverkraft. (?)
Starwheel6 1 year ago
Wow! One of my favorite scores matched with one of my favorite movies. Amazing!
rpvee 1 year ago
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SangheilliJedi 1 year ago
Nicely done, good mix. "Hey O'Connell- looks like we got all the speeder bikes!"
"Hey Benny, looks like you're on the wrong side of the forest!" :-)
bilgeboybob 2 years ago 2
Well, not a bad idea, some portions of the music fit to the scenes, but overal I like this scene without music.
Ridley44Lev 2 years ago
At times the music doesn't seem to suit very well the on-screen action-- other times somewhat.
algallego 2 years ago
Thanks for all the comments, guys. Even the other ones. It's all feedback and it's all welcome. I would like to do some of the recut trailers more than these Synchronicity clips....all just experiments to pass the time....
wannabefilms 3 years ago
Actually, I've like to see you do more synchronicity clips!
bilgeboybob 1 year ago
I am going to have to agree with spsmyth on this one. But it was a good idea.
dingdongRizzo 3 years ago
I liked it, but two things. First this scene originally had no music for a reason; to contrast the silence of the forest with the sounds of high tech. Second, dafmurray says Jerry mostly wrote darker themes. That's where he found himself typecast, but he was perfectly capable of doing any kind of music. He was excelled at small movies, like "A Tree Grows in Brooklyn," "The Sand Pebbles," or "Anna and the King." Those are the kinds of scores he preferred to write.
spsmyth 3 years ago
Thanks, buddy :) I used Final Cut Pro.
wannabefilms 3 years ago
I think the score from Rambo would be more appropriate.
katey1dog 3 years ago
Jerry Goldsmith also composed the score for the first three rambo movies.
Victorx92 3 years ago
Quite thrilling
PuhnkssV001 3 years ago
Star Trek The Motion Picture & Star Wars, E.T. & Poltergeist. The Wind and the Lion is the closest Goldsmith came to Korngold's and William's style: 'Jaws' is the best Goldsmith-style score not written by Goldsmith. I doubt Goldsmith would have socred Star Wars in the way Williams did, even with George Lucas insisting on that style. It just wasn't Goldsmith's approach to socring films. Goldsmith was better at scoring darker/downbeat films, while Williams had no peer at romantic/heroic music.
dafmurray 3 years ago
I don't know if a cue from the Mummy is the best way to speculate on what Jerry Goldsmith might have done for a Star Wars movie. The Mummy's music is too middle eastern in style. If one looks at the films Williams and Goldsmith did in similar genres -- Indiana Jones vs. King Solomon's Mines & The Mummy, or Jurassic Park vs. Baby, or Superman vs. Supergirl, you'd get a better idea of how similarly they approach those genres.
CaliforniaCaledonian 3 years ago
Great!
ottoskidoo 3 years ago
I wonder if the director of 'The Mummy' had used the speeder-bike chase sequence from 'Return of the Jedi' in pre-production to model editing and photography of an action sequence in 'The Mummy'. After all George Lucas used WWII dogfight footage to create the editing and special effects template for 'Star Wars'.
dafmurray 4 years ago
Wow! The tone of the whole movie would have changed. It would have been more like the original STAR WARS: A NEW HOPE. Very cool!
biffmercury 4 years ago
An interesting experiment and quite well done even if the end result is a bit odd. I am a big Jerry Goldsmith fan, he's one of my all-time favourite composers. But somehow a Star Wars movie just doesn't sound quite right without John Williams doing the music. An entertaining clip though. Three stars.
Ashworth6 4 years ago
This version is epic... very powerful and fits well. In my opinion, it would have made the speeder chase way more exciting.
SGTBizarro 4 years ago 2
Golsmith is one of the best (not THE best - who are we to judge?), but for me this filmscore experiment of yours just doesn't work.
pjkorab 4 years ago
Very interesting question with a nice choice of Goldsmith's work. This was an excellent job of putting Goldsmith's work into this scene, well done.
cybertang 4 years ago
The Movie had no music during the chase
jediking12 4 years ago
Not bad! Sortof has a middle eastern flavor to it, but it still works.
reformedfruit 4 years ago
Goldsmith is the man. That was a really good selection to put with that scene. The more I listen to Jerry's music, the more I think that guy was the best composer who ever lived. If you hear his score for THE TWILIGHT ZONE movie, you can see he was really trying to impress Spielberg, but I guess to no avail. I love John Williams, but Goldsmith made EVERY score sound amazing. Williams has a tendency to be derivative of himself.
THEBIGFANBOY 4 years ago 2
Is Williams derrivative, or is he just capitalizing on a a distinctive sound that works well for films and that fans such as myself enjoy?
Also note that Williams has written roughly a gazillion scores, so at one point or another he's bound to give the impression, grounded or not, of being derivative.
reformedfruit 4 years ago
Man that was Awesome! The counterpoint of the tambourine put a whole new spin on that chase sequence. Williams didn't even score that part of the film.
Very interesting
moondog202001 4 years ago
THAT WAS CLASSIC!! If you go to my profile and watch the time travel film 'equidistant' this track also fits perfectly with the chase sequence in 'part 2'. In fact, the music inspired the images before I filmed it.
again, well done!!
timefilm 4 years ago
Jerry Goldsmith has been one of, if not the, favorite of mine when it came to film scores. Legend and the Star Trek films are among his best, in my opinion.
OwensboroMusicMan07 4 years ago
First: Really good work.
But as Goldsmith always said, the music for a certain should remain the music for this certain film. The whole temptrack-affair is for most composers a pain in the butt.
But I'm really impressed of the parallels you've found here (only that Williams never scored the whole chase sequence...), still... GOOD JOB! Keep it up!
bpewien 4 years ago
Incredible! It's hard to imagine how this is just a coincidence. Or maybe Goldsmith actually knew about this? The synchronicities at the end are mind boggling, just on cue for the explosions. And it fits the action/mood of the scene. Keep up the good work!
DrFranklin 4 years ago
That was a hell of a job, and more exciting than I thought it would be. If only he had gotten the job.
tharpdevenport 4 years ago 2