Brother, what do you do about the flood account? Just curious what you think when numerous documents and manuscripts including the Bible all record such an event. Also seems the Old Testament historical accounts are accurate as well. All of them. I'm just curious because you said the Bible is "bogus" and has no validity.
Did I even say I was a Christian, let alone that I attended a church with a pastor? Be advised this kind of pseudo-insight doesn't promote the intelligence of your opinion.
Why would I need to find an argument for not believing in fairy tales? That's like finding an argument for not shooting yourself in the face. It's fairly obvious.
"ya thats great and stuff. but how do 'you' know?."
How do you know that God created all the stars in one second? No one has ever seen God creating anything. I'd rather trust the opinion of several hundred thousand physicists who have made the observations and done the calculations than the words written in an ancient text written by bronze age herders.
So maybe God did create the universe by initiating the Big Bang. That still does not falsify the evidence for stellar and organic evolution that occured after the universe came inot being. Who says you have to be an atheist to accept evolution?
Well maybe SOMETHING created the universe, but it is not any of the gods humans made up (those can be ruled out logically). Also, you do not have to be an atheist to accept evolution (or the big bang, abiogenesis, etc).
haha, you sir do not know true science. you are extremely dogmatic, you only know what you have been taught, and creationists are not mixing science with with the Bible. I highly doubt you have seen the faults withe the big bang theory.
p.s. carbon dating is NOT science it is only good assumption
well you forget the fact that most muslims believe that allah created the earth, they don't believe in the God of the Bible. Therefore they are not using the Bible for they(as you know) use the quaran. And yes, the second law of thermodynamics, that entropy increases not decreases. So why would something so complex as a cell become more orderly? Why would it evolve? I am no monkey, i do share 98%(or so) of the same DNA as it, but i also share the same 98% of DNA with a flower.
"I am no monkey, i do share 98%(or so) of the same DNA as it, but i also share the same 98% of DNA with a flower." .....
Yes, you do share @ 98% of your genes with chimpanzees, But I don't think you share anywhere hear that percentage with a flower. You're making up numbers here.
OK, we share 98% of our genes with chimps and 25% with flowers. That is perfectly consistent with common descent. If we shared more genes with flowers than with apes, it would be a problem for evolution, but such is not the case. BTW, pardon my typo... I meant to type "near", not "hear".
it uses guessing too find the base age(which is unknown) and how do you explain how we have seen light from stars that are so far away, at the rate they are traveling?
true science is not having a biased opinion, you haven't looked at both sides of the equation equally. If evoulution is correct, then how did the moon form? from nothing? was it spun-off the earth? And if there are stars forming in nebula, then why haven't we seen happened? comment me back!
Uses guessing to find the base age? what? You have no idea what you are talking about. Evolution has nothing to do with either stars, nebulas or the moon. It only explain the diversity of life. Nothing else. The universe is ~13 billion years old, thats plenty of time for light to travel. You can see stars forming in nebulas. A star takes million of years to form, So you wont see it go from gascloud to star over night. But we can use the laws of physics to predict what will happen.
Google "Hirschprung-Russell diagram". Astrophysicists have been able to classify stars by spectral class, size, absolute magnitude and position on the main sequence of stellar evolution. Our sun is a 5 billion yr old type G2 star with @ 5 billion years of life left, after which it will become a white dwarf. It's just a matter of physics to determine how long it takes a nebula to coalesce into a star and how long it takes a star to burn out.
It did only take 1 second. God said it and it was. And we have never seen a star form or a star forming. it would break the second law of thermodynamics
First of all, carbon dating uses an exponential decay equation; pretty much this N(t)=Nexp(t/T).
You look at how much carbon there is total, then how much carbon-14 there is. Since carbon-14 decays into lower carbons, the percentage can be take as N(t), then N is the saturated percent (we can say 100% for our purposes), T is the decay rate (which is known!) and from that we can find age (t).
Thirdly, evolution explains how life diversified, NOT how it originated (that theory is called "Abiogenesis"). Also, evolution ONLY deals with BIOLOGY, it has nothing to say about the moon or stars AT ALL! That field is cosmology.
it's extraordinarily funny how you atheists and evoulutionits deal in numbers and theories, you have to see to believe. Iesus Christus says: Blessed are those who have not seen and BELIEVE! I don't understand how you can just sit there thinking, there is no god, there is no god. If there was no god, how do you explain the comlpexity of the eye? or the complexity of emotion? Quoque, some Creationists do not believe the world is 6,000, we believe that it is above 6 and between 10 thousand yrs old.
I hit "remove" on your other comment, instead of "reply" ChayenBros, sorry. Referring to that comment: Thermodynamics does not contradict Abiogenesis or evolution. Things can gain order as long as there is a large energy source (the sun).
"otherwise we're gonna come and gitcha!" LOL Yeah, I get pissed at Francis Collins, he's an attention whore who just wants to please the masses. Touts himself as a former atheist who saw the Godly perfection of the genome or some shit. Talk about selling yourself out. I bet he wants to get into the presidential cabinet somehow.
Brother, what do you do about the flood account? Just curious what you think when numerous documents and manuscripts including the Bible all record such an event. Also seems the Old Testament historical accounts are accurate as well. All of them. I'm just curious because you said the Bible is "bogus" and has no validity.
aendeman1 1 year ago
omg its harry potter
XavierDrake 2 years ago
it's a good thing God made reproduction so simple. if it was any more complex religion would never spread.
styrofoamheart 3 years ago
Atheism is a religion. Those who renounced it were murdered. Sweet, gentle, open minded atheism.
sprtslvr1973 3 years ago
WTF, your pastor is an idiot.
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
Did I even say I was a Christian, let alone that I attended a church with a pastor? Be advised this kind of pseudo-insight doesn't promote the intelligence of your opinion.
sprtslvr1973 3 years ago
cry me a river
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
I love how an ingenious atheist like you can't find an intelligent argument for your belief
sprtslvr1973 3 years ago
Why would I need to find an argument for not believing in fairy tales? That's like finding an argument for not shooting yourself in the face. It's fairly obvious.
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
Atheists don't disbelieve in God really. They just hate him because a divine judge ruins their selfish pursuits
sprtslvr1973 3 years ago
LOL
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
Ben Stein only made the movie just so he could get back the money he lost - plus a "little" extra - when he ran "Win Ben Stein's Money".
As for Ben Stein's comment on how evolution leads to killing people, he does have a point. After all, "survival of the fittest, amirite?"
*sigh* I need a drink.
Vanderburghen 3 years ago
ya thats great and stuff. but how do "you" know?.
ChayenBros 3 years ago
"ya thats great and stuff. but how do 'you' know?."
How do you know that God created all the stars in one second? No one has ever seen God creating anything. I'd rather trust the opinion of several hundred thousand physicists who have made the observations and done the calculations than the words written in an ancient text written by bronze age herders.
prschuster 3 years ago
They did the calculation with "big bang" and it saids it's impossible.
jasminh78 3 years ago
Who did this calculation? What did it entail? And how was it done?
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
"They did the calculation with big bang...it's impossible"
Show mw the math.
prschuster 3 years ago
They used a super computer. It concluded that the calculation cannot be done because nothing cannot create something
jasminh78 3 years ago
Until I see the equations and what variables they used, I call bullshit.
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
"...nothing cannot create something."
So maybe God did create the universe by initiating the Big Bang. That still does not falsify the evidence for stellar and organic evolution that occured after the universe came inot being. Who says you have to be an atheist to accept evolution?
prschuster 3 years ago
Well maybe SOMETHING created the universe, but it is not any of the gods humans made up (those can be ruled out logically). Also, you do not have to be an atheist to accept evolution (or the big bang, abiogenesis, etc).
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
youtube wont let me post on this vid, test.
tabu00 3 years ago
lol did the tree create god. xD
cyanidemoon 3 years ago
haha, you sir do not know true science. you are extremely dogmatic, you only know what you have been taught, and creationists are not mixing science with with the Bible. I highly doubt you have seen the faults withe the big bang theory.
p.s. carbon dating is NOT science it is only good assumption
ChayenBros 3 years ago
What is true science then? Please explain.
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
i feel so much pity for you because you know so much but you will never know the truth.
ChayenBros 3 years ago
i feel so much pity for you because you fear death so much that you live your life in denial
cocksman94 3 years ago
Truth is supported by facts!
TABOOVSKNOWLEDGE 3 years ago
oh and how are creationists not mixing science with the bible?
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
well you forget the fact that most muslims believe that allah created the earth, they don't believe in the God of the Bible. Therefore they are not using the Bible for they(as you know) use the quaran. And yes, the second law of thermodynamics, that entropy increases not decreases. So why would something so complex as a cell become more orderly? Why would it evolve? I am no monkey, i do share 98%(or so) of the same DNA as it, but i also share the same 98% of DNA with a flower.
ChayenBros 3 years ago
"I am no monkey, i do share 98%(or so) of the same DNA as it, but i also share the same 98% of DNA with a flower." .....
Yes, you do share @ 98% of your genes with chimpanzees, But I don't think you share anywhere hear that percentage with a flower. You're making up numbers here.
prschuster 3 years ago
excuse me, 25% the same as a flower. hear?
ChayenBros 3 years ago
OK, we share 98% of our genes with chimps and 25% with flowers. That is perfectly consistent with common descent. If we shared more genes with flowers than with apes, it would be a problem for evolution, but such is not the case. BTW, pardon my typo... I meant to type "near", not "hear".
prschuster 3 years ago
In what way is carbon dating not science?
tabu00 3 years ago
it uses guessing too find the base age(which is unknown) and how do you explain how we have seen light from stars that are so far away, at the rate they are traveling?
true science is not having a biased opinion, you haven't looked at both sides of the equation equally. If evoulution is correct, then how did the moon form? from nothing? was it spun-off the earth? And if there are stars forming in nebula, then why haven't we seen happened? comment me back!
ChayenBros 3 years ago
Uses guessing to find the base age? what? You have no idea what you are talking about. Evolution has nothing to do with either stars, nebulas or the moon. It only explain the diversity of life. Nothing else. The universe is ~13 billion years old, thats plenty of time for light to travel. You can see stars forming in nebulas. A star takes million of years to form, So you wont see it go from gascloud to star over night. But we can use the laws of physics to predict what will happen.
tabu00 3 years ago
how bout it takes a star 1 sec to form. what would you say to that?
ChayenBros 3 years ago
"how bout it takes a star 1 sec to form..."
Google "Hirschprung-Russell diagram". Astrophysicists have been able to classify stars by spectral class, size, absolute magnitude and position on the main sequence of stellar evolution. Our sun is a 5 billion yr old type G2 star with @ 5 billion years of life left, after which it will become a white dwarf. It's just a matter of physics to determine how long it takes a nebula to coalesce into a star and how long it takes a star to burn out.
prschuster 3 years ago
It did only take 1 second. God said it and it was. And we have never seen a star form or a star forming. it would break the second law of thermodynamics
ChayenBros 3 years ago
First of all, carbon dating uses an exponential decay equation; pretty much this N(t)=Nexp(t/T).
You look at how much carbon there is total, then how much carbon-14 there is. Since carbon-14 decays into lower carbons, the percentage can be take as N(t), then N is the saturated percent (we can say 100% for our purposes), T is the decay rate (which is known!) and from that we can find age (t).
This method is well understood.
Secondly, Science is non-biased by definition.
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
Thirdly, evolution explains how life diversified, NOT how it originated (that theory is called "Abiogenesis"). Also, evolution ONLY deals with BIOLOGY, it has nothing to say about the moon or stars AT ALL! That field is cosmology.
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
it's extraordinarily funny how you atheists and evoulutionits deal in numbers and theories, you have to see to believe. Iesus Christus says: Blessed are those who have not seen and BELIEVE! I don't understand how you can just sit there thinking, there is no god, there is no god. If there was no god, how do you explain the comlpexity of the eye? or the complexity of emotion? Quoque, some Creationists do not believe the world is 6,000, we believe that it is above 6 and between 10 thousand yrs old.
ChayenBros 3 years ago
I hit "remove" on your other comment, instead of "reply" ChayenBros, sorry. Referring to that comment: Thermodynamics does not contradict Abiogenesis or evolution. Things can gain order as long as there is a large energy source (the sun).
TheDeLoreanFlux 3 years ago
"otherwise we're gonna come and gitcha!" LOL Yeah, I get pissed at Francis Collins, he's an attention whore who just wants to please the masses. Touts himself as a former atheist who saw the Godly perfection of the genome or some shit. Talk about selling yourself out. I bet he wants to get into the presidential cabinet somehow.
mwest1234 3 years ago
hey harry potter :D
Finiras 3 years ago