Aha, and still we at all have 2 hands, 2 feet and a head... All depends on the concrete fighter and its skills, it is not necessary to confuse Jiui jitsu to Systema is a miscellaneous, and receptions can train any.
I've trained with George and many of the best MMA fighters for many years...this is old footage....good techniques but George is more skilled and effecient now than than.....I can tell some of this is a little showy because people like it and he has those abilities....but he is really direct and powerful...and get's more so every year
I know George. He is the real deal. Systema is kind of hard to get the hang of at first, seems gimmicky, and these are demos, but he is very fast and accurate. These moves are not faked.
Anyone here remember the first UFC? They took dirreent systems and put them against each other. Now the UFC is just MMA involving Muay Thai and BJJ. I wish there was a forum for Systema, Aikido, Gung Fu and other exotic systems. I guess UFC solidified that MT and BJJ are pretty much the top of the food chain in martial arts, but I'd love to see a systema and krav maga fight only to see the effectiveness of their diferences and to see whether or not it would revert to basic kickboxing and BJJ
The UFC isn't just MT and BJJ. Those are the most common striking and grappling arts, but plenty of guys still use American style wrestling, Greko, Boxing, and Karate. Hell, the 205 champion is a Karate grand master.
This instructor combines some systema with trapping and aikido movements. I wish he would've showed the moves in real time. Anyone who trains, or knows about fighting, can tell these are defenses against street attacks, where the assailiant usually throws a haymaker, or grabs u. A trained fighter will come at u with combinations, feints etc. Great stuff though someone who is expierenced in fighting can add some of these techniques to their arsenal. Not so easy for the novice or untrained.
1- i really dont get why the guy was slapping the attacker's hand three times before going for the face
2- All the throws are already in aikido, with one little difference: They're more efficient in aikido! IF, and i really mean IF, you want to go for locks and throws without hitting the guy first, why spin around 30 times before actually damaging him?
1. Its usually used to indicate a more damaging move (like a strike that would shatter the smaller, fragile bones in the hand) that they don't actually want to do in sparring.
2. Most of the Systema moves aren't based on learning throws, they're about reacting instinctually. Disadvantages include exactly what you're talking about. The throws aren't as precise or efficient. Advantages though, are things like flexibility and adaptability. You're not confined to reactive actions like most systems.
I doubt this "Systemas" combat effectiveness...it might be ok for bar fights or some shit but I want to see the attacker think and go for a second or third move or maybe a block something...Ill keep what Ive got, the Russians can have this shit...
The first throws look just like any run-of-the-mill jiu-jitsu or something, not like improvised movements. And why is the attacker offering him his hand? :)
No need to insult me. (And if I was standing in front of you, I think you wouldn't DARE to do it.)
I have been a bouncer for 2 years now, black belt in Shotokan, and passionate of self defense and martial arts.
You will be surprised to know that some people, even without formal training, are quite adept at using a knife in brutal ways. Especially people with prison or street experience.
A good knifer will CLOSE on you, grab you, and stab you multiple times.
Not really... What happens when he grabs the enemy's arm, he paralyzes his whole body. Your other hand just stops! Unless you have lots of training where your other arm has a reflex that does that. Other than that your other arm will be paralyzed and you will just fall to the ground like a little kid.
it's hard for them to use their other arm even if they try because as soon as the systema guy grabs the first arm he's controlling the entire body so even if you try to swing your other arm at him he'll easily get outta the way
This is the first systema video I have seen that actually looks good. I practice Wing Chun and I can tell you first hand these short techniques do work. And about the "using the other arm", I have seen proof that without training you cannot switch focus between arms quickly. Most times when some grabs hold of one of your arms, you tense up and focus on it, and by the time your brain gives the order to the other one, you definitely will be in the floor.
I took 3 years of okinawian go ju ryu at shor rei kan(3 years to long) and when i would get into a fight would still get my ass kicked, well hell i would trade all those wasted karate lessons for just one lesson of systema because the techniques look more effective and without all the useless krap like kata, bunkais or whatever.
i agree mate ive been doing systema for about 4yrs now and its never dull,my advice is for you to forget everything youve learnt and PAY ATTENTION for example you WILL be thrown into the middle of the class whlie everyone comes at you with a knife and you will soon learn how to disarm ALL of them there is about 15 people in my class so thats 15 people coming towards you with a knife not something other martial arts show you is it??
The system is good. It looks like a re-direction of force system as opposed to Karate style block confrontation systems. This makes systema a very promising and potentialy effective style. It just appears to be attracting the wrong types. So we are seeing over complient uke's and ego mad instructors. Shame could be avery nice style if someone just gripped it and brought it down to earth a bit.
How is karate a block confrontational system? Shotokan maybe,and sports karate, this looks very much like the advanced Kakie we practise in Okinawan Goju-ryu.
Who said karate confronts force with force? You must have seen shuri-te styles like Shotokan. Many aspects of Okinawan Goju-ryu has to do with throws, arm-locks, joint-manipulation and force re-direction. Infact force confrontation is not even really in our syllabus. Karate is just a general term, individual karate styles are very distinct from one-another.
Right great, well done. So my point is valid then... why bother to split hairs. I think its obvious what I'm trying to say. Re direction of force versus force confrontation. If your style redirects, congratulations.
The funniest thing is that Systema (Система) is unknown in Russia :) There is Kadochnikovs fighting principles and mr. Kadochnikov was close to KGB and GRU spetsnaz. But what you see here is something from kadochnikov but nothing with spetsnaz and ofcourse GRU :) Circus for money.
I do/did Bujutsu, taekwondo, karate kyokushin, Judo, Ju-Jitsu, Bujutsu, Kyusho and krav maga. Tae-kwondo only for the speed, Kyokushin for the discipline and for the hardening of the body(but not the head!!), krav maga for the self-protection on the street, judo and ju-jitsu for the all round techniques, bujutsu to mix it al together, and kyusho for the finishing touch. But I am still looking for something new, do you know if there is a club in Belgium, Antwerp?
I have over 35 years experience in martial arts and have been in dozens of "real world" experiences all over the world. I went to Toronto to see Systema in person, and I can tell you that it is the most brilliant, most effective fighting system I have ever seen. I dare any tough talking naysayer to go to Toronto and try ANYTHING on Vladimir Vasiliev, or any of his instructors or senieor students, and I'll see you in the hospital and even bring you flowers.
Totally agree, I cross train in MMa and Systema, MMa because i like BJJ, and Thai Boxing, Systema for it's unpredicability, and for the street fighting aspect. The way that Vladimir and his instructors hit and move, is unbelievable, usually in the striking arts u have to hit relatively hard to hurt someone. In Systema, they just tap u and your whole body feels like it's going to shut down. Alot of people who have never trained in systema say oh they move so slow, that's so noone gets hurt.
yup...George can turn on the speed...some people are a natural, and then some people take years to get the hang of something. Don't ask me....I'm just grillin' some choice video....
I have trained in multiple fighting styles for 23 years and this looks very "hollywood". In a controlled environment it looks impressive but I'm not so sure about its real-world effectiveness in real-world scenarios.
Weaponsaint I too have trained various martial arts for over 18 years, Its only when i started cross training in systema did i realise its brilliance, if you doubt or question it go try strike, trap or apply a lock on a systema practitioner, and you will see those relaxed jelly arms wriggle out of your favorite technique
That's because it does look like it works in the videos but people don't realise that in the real world, the bad guy doesn't comply and he or she tends to be a little more dedicated than in these bullshit videos.
I believe this is not about complying - systema is learning weak spots of the enemy at each particular situation. If you resist - you're in pain or break something
Adrenalin is like a seismic shot of morpheine and cocaine all at once. Taking down a sizeable foe who's fully drummed up on adrenalin is much more difficult than locking someones arm up in training or pushing a pressure point.
a fighting system that really works,and people should try some classes in cambridge by rob poyton it will change your whole out look to what happens when it turns ugly
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Aha, and still we at all have 2 hands, 2 feet and a head... All depends on the concrete fighter and its skills, it is not necessary to confuse Jiui jitsu to Systema is a miscellaneous, and receptions can train any.
SpecTSVM 3 months ago
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DanTheWolfman1 6 months ago
I've trained with George and many of the best MMA fighters for many years...this is old footage....good techniques but George is more skilled and effecient now than than.....I can tell some of this is a little showy because people like it and he has those abilities....but he is really direct and powerful...and get's more so every year
DanTheWolfman1 6 months ago
just learn some jiui jitsu
MetalOmgz 1 year ago
Great defense techniques, but that audio track is nauseating. George looks relaxed and smooth, but that "singer" sounds very tense and ragged.
NobleJoyous 1 year ago
Garbage, all staged attacks.
ShawnShaffer 1 year ago
I know George. He is the real deal. Systema is kind of hard to get the hang of at first, seems gimmicky, and these are demos, but he is very fast and accurate. These moves are not faked.
Alfredkickedcock 1 year ago
Anyone here remember the first UFC? They took dirreent systems and put them against each other. Now the UFC is just MMA involving Muay Thai and BJJ. I wish there was a forum for Systema, Aikido, Gung Fu and other exotic systems. I guess UFC solidified that MT and BJJ are pretty much the top of the food chain in martial arts, but I'd love to see a systema and krav maga fight only to see the effectiveness of their diferences and to see whether or not it would revert to basic kickboxing and BJJ
ghostnoteus 2 years ago
The UFC isn't just MT and BJJ. Those are the most common striking and grappling arts, but plenty of guys still use American style wrestling, Greko, Boxing, and Karate. Hell, the 205 champion is a Karate grand master.
RequisitionMeABeat 2 years ago
This instructor combines some systema with trapping and aikido movements. I wish he would've showed the moves in real time. Anyone who trains, or knows about fighting, can tell these are defenses against street attacks, where the assailiant usually throws a haymaker, or grabs u. A trained fighter will come at u with combinations, feints etc. Great stuff though someone who is expierenced in fighting can add some of these techniques to their arsenal. Not so easy for the novice or untrained.
poohpoohcaca 2 years ago
That didn't look anything like the fighting system that the Spetznaz use. It looked like silly playing.
uberpaulywauly 2 years ago
opinions are awsome arnt they????
"i might not agree with what you say but i will die fighting for the right for you to say it"
cobhcmofo313 2 years ago
1- i really dont get why the guy was slapping the attacker's hand three times before going for the face
2- All the throws are already in aikido, with one little difference: They're more efficient in aikido! IF, and i really mean IF, you want to go for locks and throws without hitting the guy first, why spin around 30 times before actually damaging him?
eliechallita 3 years ago
1. Its usually used to indicate a more damaging move (like a strike that would shatter the smaller, fragile bones in the hand) that they don't actually want to do in sparring.
2. Most of the Systema moves aren't based on learning throws, they're about reacting instinctually. Disadvantages include exactly what you're talking about. The throws aren't as precise or efficient. Advantages though, are things like flexibility and adaptability. You're not confined to reactive actions like most systems.
Keraos 2 years ago
I doubt this "Systemas" combat effectiveness...it might be ok for bar fights or some shit but I want to see the attacker think and go for a second or third move or maybe a block something...Ill keep what Ive got, the Russians can have this shit...
Johnnysuicide941 3 years ago
The first throws look just like any run-of-the-mill jiu-jitsu or something, not like improvised movements. And why is the attacker offering him his hand? :)
mombasaha 3 years ago
He must be asking for change or a light.
CRAZYMARK 3 years ago
Yeah, then the optimal response is of course going kung-fu on his ass.
carlsaischa 2 years ago 2
No trained opponent will ever use a knife like that.
Thunderhouse2 3 years ago 2
u idiot, common, evr saw a trained kniver in the street? morons r using it like he shows... when u r walking home. its not a samurai movie inst it?
MadMan187 3 years ago
No need to insult me. (And if I was standing in front of you, I think you wouldn't DARE to do it.)
I have been a bouncer for 2 years now, black belt in Shotokan, and passionate of self defense and martial arts.
You will be surprised to know that some people, even without formal training, are quite adept at using a knife in brutal ways. Especially people with prison or street experience.
A good knifer will CLOSE on you, grab you, and stab you multiple times.
Not to mention slash you arms...
Thunderhouse2 3 years ago
zaebis
wjansen1 3 years ago
Usually a enemy use both hands not only one. It is not realistic
fusoperso 4 years ago
Not really... What happens when he grabs the enemy's arm, he paralyzes his whole body. Your other hand just stops! Unless you have lots of training where your other arm has a reflex that does that. Other than that your other arm will be paralyzed and you will just fall to the ground like a little kid.
GambiBoi 4 years ago 2
it's hard for them to use their other arm even if they try because as soon as the systema guy grabs the first arm he's controlling the entire body so even if you try to swing your other arm at him he'll easily get outta the way
dragon877 4 years ago 2
Nice :)
rgolshteyn 4 years ago
This is the first systema video I have seen that actually looks good. I practice Wing Chun and I can tell you first hand these short techniques do work. And about the "using the other arm", I have seen proof that without training you cannot switch focus between arms quickly. Most times when some grabs hold of one of your arms, you tense up and focus on it, and by the time your brain gives the order to the other one, you definitely will be in the floor.
nukedbug 4 years ago 3
I took 3 years of okinawian go ju ryu at shor rei kan(3 years to long) and when i would get into a fight would still get my ass kicked, well hell i would trade all those wasted karate lessons for just one lesson of systema because the techniques look more effective and without all the useless krap like kata, bunkais or whatever.
aaronk0813 4 years ago
i agree mate ive been doing systema for about 4yrs now and its never dull,my advice is for you to forget everything youve learnt and PAY ATTENTION for example you WILL be thrown into the middle of the class whlie everyone comes at you with a knife and you will soon learn how to disarm ALL of them there is about 15 people in my class so thats 15 people coming towards you with a knife not something other martial arts show you is it??
comrade1886 4 years ago
if you would use your other hand youd go down just the same.
gnome33 4 years ago
If I was the guy in black I would use my other hand. Thats just me though.
newphoenix84 4 years ago
The system is good. It looks like a re-direction of force system as opposed to Karate style block confrontation systems. This makes systema a very promising and potentialy effective style. It just appears to be attracting the wrong types. So we are seeing over complient uke's and ego mad instructors. Shame could be avery nice style if someone just gripped it and brought it down to earth a bit.
smudgeoka 4 years ago
How is karate a block confrontational system? Shotokan maybe,and sports karate, this looks very much like the advanced Kakie we practise in Okinawan Goju-ryu.
Pecherin72 4 years ago
I'm talking about confronting force with force, as opposed to redirecting force. Not confrontational as in its approach to conflict management.
smudgeoka 4 years ago
Who said karate confronts force with force? You must have seen shuri-te styles like Shotokan. Many aspects of Okinawan Goju-ryu has to do with throws, arm-locks, joint-manipulation and force re-direction. Infact force confrontation is not even really in our syllabus. Karate is just a general term, individual karate styles are very distinct from one-another.
Pecherin72 4 years ago
Right great, well done. So my point is valid then... why bother to split hairs. I think its obvious what I'm trying to say. Re direction of force versus force confrontation. If your style redirects, congratulations.
smudgeoka 4 years ago
It's not my style mate, it's original karate before it became "sportified" and watered down in this century.
Pecherin72 4 years ago
The funniest thing is that Systema (Система) is unknown in Russia :) There is Kadochnikovs fighting principles and mr. Kadochnikov was close to KGB and GRU spetsnaz. But what you see here is something from kadochnikov but nothing with spetsnaz and ofcourse GRU :) Circus for money.
philin20072 4 years ago
that's a ryabko system not a kadochnikov. obviously this is meant for civilian use
thehypez 4 years ago
yeep
00WhiteAces00 4 years ago
looks nice but im sceptical about how useful it would be against someone who didnt let you up close e.g. TKD
blackdragonUK 4 years ago
very cool man!
TonyNhollywood 4 years ago
ONE WORD: BULLSHIT
shadowdusklives 4 years ago
I do/did Bujutsu, taekwondo, karate kyokushin, Judo, Ju-Jitsu, Bujutsu, Kyusho and krav maga. Tae-kwondo only for the speed, Kyokushin for the discipline and for the hardening of the body(but not the head!!), krav maga for the self-protection on the street, judo and ju-jitsu for the all round techniques, bujutsu to mix it al together, and kyusho for the finishing touch. But I am still looking for something new, do you know if there is a club in Belgium, Antwerp?
teenkaasje 4 years ago
@teenkaasje man you must have no life.
fracturedfist 1 year ago
I have over 35 years experience in martial arts and have been in dozens of "real world" experiences all over the world. I went to Toronto to see Systema in person, and I can tell you that it is the most brilliant, most effective fighting system I have ever seen. I dare any tough talking naysayer to go to Toronto and try ANYTHING on Vladimir Vasiliev, or any of his instructors or senieor students, and I'll see you in the hospital and even bring you flowers.
crocsavvy63 4 years ago 6
Totally agree, I cross train in MMa and Systema, MMa because i like BJJ, and Thai Boxing, Systema for it's unpredicability, and for the street fighting aspect. The way that Vladimir and his instructors hit and move, is unbelievable, usually in the striking arts u have to hit relatively hard to hurt someone. In Systema, they just tap u and your whole body feels like it's going to shut down. Alot of people who have never trained in systema say oh they move so slow, that's so noone gets hurt.
poohpoohcaca 2 years ago
it looks "hollywood" becouse hes doing it slow
bison919 4 years ago
yup...George can turn on the speed...some people are a natural, and then some people take years to get the hang of something. Don't ask me....I'm just grillin' some choice video....
CRAZYMARK 4 years ago
I have trained in multiple fighting styles for 23 years and this looks very "hollywood". In a controlled environment it looks impressive but I'm not so sure about its real-world effectiveness in real-world scenarios.
Weaponsaint 4 years ago
dude russian special forces use that sysmtem spetsnaz
overoy 4 years ago
Weaponsaint I too have trained various martial arts for over 18 years, Its only when i started cross training in systema did i realise its brilliance, if you doubt or question it go try strike, trap or apply a lock on a systema practitioner, and you will see those relaxed jelly arms wriggle out of your favorite technique
bodisatva75 4 years ago
Search for video "Specnaz Systema" and you'll see it's effectiveness i real-world scenarios.
B3RyL 4 years ago
Silly!!!
tapthis 4 years ago
im very impressed with this martial art and this guy is like greased lightning. fantastic!!
goesworth 4 years ago
yeah too bad he does action movies
GierJoost 4 years ago
That guy is a monster
BigDummy23 4 years ago
Systema looks very promising. Great work.Thnx for the upload 5/5.
BullyBiFF 4 years ago
why turn your back on someone, and with a knife!!! and then pull the the attackers hand still holding the knife towards your body.
AndyPewter 5 years ago
hey asissted suicide is a great way to shirk responsibility. although personally i'd rather learn latin dancing than systema.
not4resale 5 years ago
You're not by yourself. I'm amazed at the number of people that are impressed with this system.
johnaio 4 years ago
That's because it does look like it works in the videos but people don't realise that in the real world, the bad guy doesn't comply and he or she tends to be a little more dedicated than in these bullshit videos.
not4resale 4 years ago
people are more dedicated in real life? really? i didn't realise that...oh well...i'm gonna go pull down my pants now.
RiseToHonor700 4 years ago
i meant in a real situation smartarse. You may pull your pants back up.
not4resale 4 years ago
I believe this is not about complying - systema is learning weak spots of the enemy at each particular situation. If you resist - you're in pain or break something
Nadirion1 4 years ago
Adrenalin is like a seismic shot of morpheine and cocaine all at once. Taking down a sizeable foe who's fully drummed up on adrenalin is much more difficult than locking someones arm up in training or pushing a pressure point.
not4resale 4 years ago
a fighting system that really works,and people should try some classes in cambridge by rob poyton it will change your whole out look to what happens when it turns ugly
systemaman41 5 years ago
he does action movies too.
SheSheNee7 5 years ago
He is even more impressive now... I know, I train with him and his fist! (lol) He is first rate Martial artist and a great teacher.
omava 5 years ago
Wow, awesome.
CoolioMasta 5 years ago