Taylor Trumpets Maintaining your Trumpet

[VexedMeerkat]

What was that red stuff you put on the water keys and slides? It didn't look like usual valve oil?

[DancingSpiderman]

That was a very cute dog at the end of this clip.

[MrMoosicles]

saaaaayyy, whats the red stuff yo used for the 1st and 3rd slides?? looks a lot easier than having to grease the 'male' and 'female' parts by hand!!

[orionercan]

thanks, it was really helpful..how often should i do this ?

ps the dog is sooooo sweet !! :)

[MultiEvdawg]

heres a little help..back in the 80's when I marched dci..we showered with our instruments on occasion..hate me love me..but got the job done...2coolvk

[jacobwisenbach123]

and what is the majical red stuff?

[jacobwisenbach123]

is that alisyn slide grease??

[4nd123w]

@DancingSpiderman um... yea YANKING will do that. it's okay if you pull and it doesn't necessarily make a popping noise. Metal can still bend. You dance so don't call me a woman. Go touch Mary Jane.

[trumpetmariachi75]

what´s the name of the special black oil did u use for the pipes?

thnx

[ledderzed]

for the first and third valve slide, sometimes slide grease can be too sticky. for a good alternative, mix equal parts valve oil and slide grease in a bottle cap and use that instead. makes the slides far easier to move, which is particularly useful in faster playing and if your trumpet is naturally out of tune.

[mneiderhiser1776]

I just cleaned my trumpet...and i bent the valve on the bottom where the silver cap goes...how do i fix that???

[kodiprinter]

Good job from Greece

[Ostiosti]

Great video, thank you very much =)

[follettonerazzuro]

VERY VERY GOOD! special thanks from Italy!!!

[joshmx28]

I have never heard of depressing the valves before removing slides who came up with this? The pistons are made of monel the inside tubing that creates the ports is brass tubing and it is soldered together. Nothing is going to happen usually the part that seals the ports is the monel anyway and even so that small amount of vacuum wont hurt anything. Where do people come up with this stuff?

[forgottensky]

for me, i'm just trying to keep my pistons one piece. it doesn't hurt just to depress the valve before removing the slides.

[joshmx28]

Its possible especially with good horns or ones that had the valves rebuild to only have .0005" clearance in the valve. This is something I didnt consider but if this is the case and your slides are very tight tolerance as well i guess some damage could occur if the slide is just yanked out. I dont know. but you are right if you just push the valve down there is no issue at all

[DancingSpiderman]

@joshmx28 Glad somebody on this trumpet clip agrees. Sometimes the fastidious stickler weenie tendency of the trumpet playing technique spills on over into non-musical, purely mechanical aspects of the trumpet. Yeah, I never had a problem with yanking out valves slides without 1st pressing all valves down.

We're dealing with relatively hard substance, the valves here, not soaking wet malleable bars of soap. Quit being a bunch of sissies. SORRY, SOMEbody had to put it to you all in this way.

[varscht]

no amount of talking could illustrate better than this

[spacecadet1975]

Thanks very much.. hope it helped you

[trumpetchump]

This is an OUTSTANDING post on cleaning a trumpet, including the detail strip of the piston. One thing that was not shown though (which I know they did) was a clean rinse with fresh clean water after the soap. I have been told more than once that a sonic chemical clean is one of the biggest wastes of money you can make and they are rarely ever necessary. Sometimes the sonic action can damage joints. Nothin' beats soap, water, rag and a brush. Thanks for the great post.

[spacecadet1975]

thankyou for your post.. Glad you enjoyed it....

[elvin211]

WHAT SONG IS IN THE BACKGROUND?

[shepscab]

The piston will not be "Bent". However the Ports through the piston are only lightly soldered or brazed and can be damaged if you pull the u-tube out suddenly without depressing the valve.

[caliturbodreamer]

you can wash silver plated trumpets in worm soapy water with a brush. theres no other way to clean the insides.its the brush that does the cleaning.when they get silver plated at the platers that how they clean them,

your silver trumpet will be just fine.

thanks

[caliturbodreamer]

ha some funny comments on this.

you wont bend anything or damaging anything by pulling a slide out.thats what its there for to slide in and out.yes brass is a soft metal but its metal,not paper. its round so the round shape gives it more strength.

it will take a lot more than that to damage anything.

[screamertrumpetfan]

Two questions:

1) would this be okay with silver trumpets?

2) Would a generic brand of dish soap be okay?

[wannaplaytrmptjmu]

Christ no!!!! unless you can get ever single part of the silver plate dry, which is excruciating hard and time consuming to do, don't dip your sliver trumpet. to clean mine, I just mix some "light silver polish" with a very small portion of water. Then I make sure that I dry it with an old cloth baby diaper very thoroughly. Valves and slides you can wash with whatever though, because they are easy to dry off completely.

[screamertrumpetfan]

Alrighty, where could I get this 'light silver polish'?

[wannaplaytrmptjmu]

When I say that I mean that what I use is normal stuff called "Wright's Silver Cream". I make it "light" by using a small amount with a sponge that I wet then wrung out.

[screamertrumpetfan]

Do you know where I could get some?

[wannaplaytrmptjmu]

Prolly a local grocery store. CVS, Food Lion, Kroger, Walmart, wherever. It doesn't have to be that specific type, any type should do, just make sure to make it "light" like I previously described.

[shepscab]

Before one pulls off the slides one should ALWAYS remove or depress the valve(s)

[DancingSpiderman]

@shepscab Q: Is "depress the valves" the same thing as "press the valves"?

Don't say "depress"... it depresses me...

[4nd123w]

You just warped the valve slides just by taking them out. You are supposed to push the valve down corresponding to the slide to release the air vacuum and prevent bent slides.

Silly

[GunzTheDuel]

i dont think brass can be warped by the amount of suction that is generated when the valve isnt depressed. Brass is a soft metal but its gonna take more then that to bend it.

[4nd123w]

You are correct. (and I do like your lower register man that's rad. :)

but it is advised you press the valves before taking the slide cause it is a soft metal so yea it can bend it

[DancingSpiderman]

@4nd123w The deformation of valve metal by yanking the valve slides out is JUST AN OLD TRUMPET WIVES-TALE, woman... don't believe it.

Valves are not made of mercury. The metal will hold its shape better than most of you fastidious sissies.

[DancingSpiderman]

@GunzTheDuel The same musical instrument shop "pro" who tells players the old trumpeter's wives-tale to press all valves down before yanking out the valve slides is the same entrepreneur who tells you to buy trombone slide grease to use on your 1st and 3rd valve slides, and several years later encourages you to buy multiple trumpets made in the various keys Eflat, C, Aflat, i.e., what I call "cheater horns".

[isurftheturf]

what kind of lubrication material do you use exactly on the tuning slide and 2nd valve "slide"? And i'm guessing trombone slide grease on the 1st and 3rd valve slides, right?

I've also found that when I wash my trumpet, I twist the valves a bit and jerk them in and out of the casing, so the valve oil goes everywhere.

[DancingSpiderman]

@isurftheturf Use warm pepperoni grease on the 1st valve slide, Burt's Bees lip crap on the 2nd vlavue "slide", and WD40 on the 3rd valuuva slide.

WHY are you people so weenie about what you use for lubrication on metal-to-metal contact?!? Use what real men use: powdered graphite, and get it OVER with...

[isurftheturf]

@DancingSpiderman Yes, powdered graphite and maybe spit will work. Guess i can sratch my ass whitlst doing it.

[DancingSpiderman]

@isurftheturf I'm glad I got through to you, boah.

I didn't want to teach you the hard way. Muss up your pretty hairdo.

[isurftheturf]

@DancingSpiderman Well I dont want to pick a fight (which is lamer than lame in a thread) but if you're serious about your intonation you'll want to start using your 1st and 3rd slides regularly. Even in the case where you can use your lips to compensate, that will mess up your lip-tuning in all the rest of your register and will have a worse sound output because your blowing that way ends up on a wrong pipe length. That means it will lack considerably in amplitude spectrum in a FFT analysis.

[DancingSpiderman]

@isurftheturf Wow, I'm just yankin' yer chain. I've moved on from this topic. Go ahead... USE yer 1st and 3rd valve slides.

[pooky987]

Your never supposed to use steaming hot water and detergent to wash a trumpet. At least its that way for my Bach, it strips the finish.

[spacecadet1975]

thats a little boiling and then lots of cold to make it warm... You are correct not boiling is how we want it...

[DancingSpiderman]

@spacecadet1975 Why are you using two temperatures of water? Why not just pour lukewarm water from the sink? i.e., turn on both the cold AND the hot water and just mx the two temps at the faucet? I think I'm missing something here I don't know...

[trmptguy11]

it's a b-flat. That's the same way the student bach's look, it's like the bell is longer kinda.

[RogerSquawk]

looks shorter than a bflat