Churchhouse To Jailhouse part 3 Ergun Caner

[doulos1981]

Say, [O Muhammad], "If you should love Allah , then follow me, [so] Allah will love you and forgive you your sins. And Allah is Forgiving and Merciful." Surah 3:31

[doulos1981]

Ergun Caner did not go to High School and Brooklyn or live in a Majority Muslim country.

[kelubi99]

is he going to jail for lying?

[mokhan247]

why does the video description say "ex muslim"?

[kennyt77]

@mokhan247 BECAUSE HE SAID HE WAS A MUSLIM AN NOW A CHRISTIAN?

[mokhan247]

ergun mehmet caner is a fake ex muslim - a liar - a cheat and a major fraud

[Kite208]

@ mokhan247

Why try to convincing them while the Noble Quran clearly says to you that:

"As to those who reject Faith, it is the same to them whether thou warn them or do not warn them; they will not believe." (Sura 2:6)

[kennyt77]

@Kite208 Is the Muslim faith in works, Mohammed, Allah or how many infidels you can kill?

[Kite208]

@ kennyt77

How many infidels should I kill? I will let your dear Ergun Caner answer this question for you.

"Islam does not demand the death of all infidels, but does prescribe violence against the infidels in certain circumstances, but at anytime during the violence, the Muslim should work hard to try to broker a peace with the infidel, even if it will entail a great sacrifice. But, at no time are innocent civilians to be targeted in that violence."

[kennyt77]

Leave this man alone and if he is a liar it will be revealed.

[mokhan247]

yes you are right. it has already been revealed on my channel.

[Kite208]

@ kennyt77

Why would I leave him?

You've asked me a question (more like attacking) about how Islam is violent religion toward to the unbelievers. So I brought you a quote from the very man that you admire (i.e. Ergun Caner) to refute your claim.

You can find his claim over here:

h t t p : / / w w w . erguncaner . c o m / home / debate / default . php

NOTE: remove the space

[kennyt77]

@Kite208 Who straps a bomb to theirself at the request of a cowardly iman( WHO WILL NOT DO IT HIMSELF) and blows up Jews? In Iraq who loads a car up with bombs and kills THEIR fellow muslims? Who kills their fellow muslims because they think they are helping the " enemy" Israel? Why can a woman be taken out in a soccer field and shot in the head because she " disobeyed her husband? The Islam, the world see's is violent and it comes down from the top of the leaders, Aytollahs or whoever.

[kennyt77]

@mokhan247 Are you a muslim?

[Kite208]

Dr. Ergun Caner Response/Conclusion:

Date: January 23, 2006

"Islam does not demand the death of all infidels, but does prescribe violence against the infidels in certain circumstances, but at anytime during the violence, the Muslim should work hard to try to broker a peace with the infidel, even if it will entail a great sacrifice. But, at no time are innocent civilians to be targeted in that violence."

ergun

h t t p : / / w w w . erguncaner . c o m / home / debate / default . php

[Kite208]

@ 4:25

Arabic was his former language before English?

I thought he was from Turkey? Turks dont speak Arabic, they speak Turkish.

[kennyt77]

I just heard the message and it touched me so I shared it, I am not a language expert but I don't think he is lying.

[Kite208]

You dont have to be language expert to know this.

Turkey speak Turkish

Arabs speak Arabic.

Ergun is a Turk who speaks Arabic. Does this make sense to you?

[kennyt77]

Well I will have to take your word for the language mistake but do you agree with the message he preaches? I see you are from Kuwait on your profile and you seem a little defensive or fault finding, just wondering what your motive is?

[Kite208]

His message he preaches is directed to Christians. Therefor I cannot disagree nor agree with his message for I am a Muslim.

My motive?

You can say I want for you to know about Islam from other sources instead of Ergun Caner. Such as like the Mosque, Islamic websites, or simply read the Quran without taking out of context.

Peace

[kennyt77]

Point taken but his message is for you too, because me being a Christ follower must tell you as Ergun said there is only one true God and that is Jesus. God Bless

[Kite208]

Hello again

I am kinda confused right now. You've said:

"there is only one true God and that is Jesus"

While no where in the Bible Jesus son of Mary referred himself as "The only true God".

Infact, Son of Mary quite explicitly says, in John 17:3, that his Father was the only true God and he was only sent by him.

So if the Father is the ONLY! true God, then Son of Mary cannot be God otherwise this verse will be confusing.

God bless you too.

[kennyt77]

@Kite208 1Jo 5:20 And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we may know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.