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  • how do you do the up a attack w/o having to jump first i see you just walk and do?

  • Falco is personally my favorite and best character. Other characters can avoid the lazer, and while using the down-b, I trip and when/if they jump up, I use a smash A to attempt to get them airborne, then I spike them and/or hit them up again.

    Try it, falco fans.

  • anyone know why fox looks different in brawl?

  • Better graphics?

  • @boywent025 nah. I just think he advanced overtime

  • I get the sence the guy in this vid doesnt like Falco because Falcos rated 4th in the Brawl Tier List which is much better than he is made to look here.

  • btw the falco throw's lasers don't always work, if you have higher percentage like 120+ the lazers won't hit, maybe like 1 or 2 hit

  • Fox and Falco are my favorite characters in Brawl. And, Falco is my favorite character in the Starfox series, but i still like Fox. Im a furry.

  • He obviously doesnt know falco very well, HE IS THE BEST. I call the shine, the discipline stick. When quick players run at you, you just whip it out as soon as they get to close, and teach them not to ever try that again.

  • I wouldn't say Falco is the best. Since it is obvious that he's nowhere near as good as say Meta Knight.

    But yeah.

    Falco isn't completely as this video makes him look.

    Neutral A = More effective at racking than Fox.

    Down Throw can chain.

    I generally like both characters, but I tend to stick with Falco more than Fox because I rely on spiking.

  • falcos side b attack is good when you are on a ledge , then jump up and do it quickly...

  • i play both of them

    falco is more chaingrabbing, gatling combo, spiking and back air

    very good shdl, nice forward smash but the rest is pretty much useless

    fox: tail juggles dair to downsmash good smashes altogether and bair for kills firefox is really gd

  • i prefer Falco - his shine is pretty useful (and cool) and imo, his aeriel attacks are better than foxes

  • Falco's shine has been extremely useful for me, especially against characters like the links, samus, or lucas/ness. Overall, I personally like falco more than fox because of the diversity of his moves

  • fox's down drill is a spike

  • Yea. It is, but you can gain alot of recovery from it.

  • my key diffs for fox would be:

    1. much slower, just in terms of attacking and movement. attack delay seems shorter though.

    2.down smash is much stronger, air forward a is much more useful. back a stronger, but req more timing.

    3.overall less damage and knockback, but that means more chain potential.

    4. air up a and forward smash got weaker.

    5. the shine stuns now (if you ever got hit by a red shell reflected 5 times you know what i mean)

    6.drill kick is more useful,blasters can do 0 damage

  • for me with falco shine i hit em in the air then shine then it restarts the combo so i repeat

  • actually falcos back air hits going up during short hopping if you use the c-stick to air of if you're fast enough

  • U should try creatin this now... I still think ur Olimar vid was THE BEST... I only checked my 4 favorite characters so I wouldn't know about anyone except... Falco, Marth, Ike, and Olimar...

  • Falco can chain grab to 75%

  • his lasers sometimes miss

  • yeah, whats a DI? and what's a shine?

  • Shine is any Reflecter that the Star Fox charcters use and DI is the use of mashing the controll stick in the direction you want to go while beeing attacked

  • what is a DI?

  • id like to say that falco is kinda like the...apprentice to fox with a difference in power, accuracy, and shooting. not a clone lol thats way too harsh but i cant even master falco nao in ssbb like i could in ssbm. falco is great if you cant use fox properly if you cant handle his speed.

  • lol are you brazilian? (even master falco NAO in ssbb...)

  • wow a typo. ty for pointing that out. no im not brazilian._-

  • lol

  • NO WAY you played falco more than anyone else in melee...theres just no way lol

    have you any idea what you have just said XD

    seriously ruhtraeel...think about what ur saying lol

  • falco seems better... i rather him be like this than an clone of fox with a differnt body

  • Falco was nerfed so he was more balanced and not as cheap as in melee. He forgot one major thing about Falco's D-air though, yes, it has a smaller hitbox, but you have to hit him with the initial spin to spike. If you hit him after you have already started the move, it won't spike.

  • wow they friggd up falco badd i liked his move set in melee than in ssbb

  • Yea I played Falco way more than anyone else in melee, but they tried to balance it. If you liked Falco in melee, you'll like Fox or Wolf in Brawl.

  • I feel like Falco is better in Brawl, and his shiner throw attack, is really really useful

  • And slow as all hell to come back =(

  • yeah but atleast it stuns them so it doesnt leave you vunerable

  • Do A Barrel Roll!!!

  • lol chaingrab was so annoying when marth vs a fox or falco lol

  • lol chaingrab was so annoying when marth vs a fox or falco lol

  • Fox's new look is great and he looks better to play in the way he moves. He looks as though he no longer fast falls (Thank God!)

  • falco pwns! I figured him out. Just look at my videos

  • falco pwns! I figured him out. Just look at my videos.

  • After using falco for a week, I can say that he has really become more than what he was in melee. He has a lot of potential, more so than in the last iteration. Shine is useful for edgeguarding, mindgames, spacing, and dthrow finishing up to 50%.

  • SEND ME URS ILL PWN U.

  • yeah right, i actually went to a tournament and did pretty good, which means I have faced pros. u guys are just noobs!!!

  • vs me then an we will see whos the noob.

  • vs me then an we will see whos the noob.

  • i think falco has changed for the better he is problably my best character

  • Im a Fox guy and i think you said his up A is less powerful. To me it seems so because in melee if you could get it right its hits almost as well as a fully charged smash. his jump neutralf A is less powerful as well, because i remember sending people flying by just hitting them up and then jumping and neutral a. It wasnt that great to inflict damage but it was a good KO move at higher percentages.

    Seems to me that Falco's reflector moves is there just to inflict a little extra damag.

  • It seems that they have traded some of fox's characteristics. He no longer fast falls, but his fire fox has SLIGHTLY less range. His neutral air has lost KO potential but his down smash looks stronger from the vid. And so on.

  • i want freind codes dammit.

  • i want freind codes dammit.

  • Fox's blaster doesn't stun in melee.

    Just a heads up.

  • He means that, like in Melee, it doesn't stun.

  • He means that, like in Melee, it doesn't stun.

  • dam falco is my main but hes gonna be hella hard to figure out and master, o'well i learn. send me ur wii codes falco users =)

  • Will do.

  • Hmm... maybe Falco's reflector is meant to reflect items...OH WAIT!?!?

  • Well I consider Falco to be "Luigi-ized". What that means is that while some of Falco's moves are like Fox's, many of his moves are different. It's good that Falco's not done and that Sakurai dealt with making former clone characters no longer clones. P.S. Lucario is not a clone of Mewtwo contrary to popular belief.

  • you call it "shine"?

  • thats what its called...technically its 'reflector' but the 'pros' came up with the word shineto avoid tongue twisters while explaining combos....reflector spike sound really homo :P

  • fox isnt that good in brawl i got the game yesterday infil i want ur freind code i want to show u how falco can be used.

  • I'll fight ya.

  • I'll fight ya.

  • lets go then ur freind code?

  • 1 thing that you might want to add to the descritpion or something, when Falco uses his shine and kicks it, it strengthins the projectile a little bit. We teseted it with samaus's beam.

  • Try double shining. Its easy to go for two in the air just a lil trickier then in melee.

  • HOLY SHIT falco is awesome

  • Whats an infanite shine?

  • i see they took out the little green bounce when u miss tech

    gonna be a lil harder 4 me 2 link combos =(

  • In Melee I used Falco all the time but when Sakurai said no clones I kinda waved good-bye to Falco so I switched to Fox (who is one of my mains and a great character) and I hoped for Wolf (Yay!) but when I saw Falco in this vid from ShadoHero1991 I literally jumped out my chair and screamed happily :)

  • falco was my main in melee but in brawl ill make wolf my main

  • Falco looks terrible compared to Melee :[

  • I agree, they downgraded his ass in Brawl.

  • No JC shine? That's my fox game gone then ='(

  • I really like the way you present these, your manner of speech and voice are very calm and intelligent. Thanks a lot for being so thorough, it's been very informative!

  • ditto

  • I agree: it's like the NPR way of approaching SSBB. I partly watch for the breakdown, partly for the neat Canadian accent.

  • Y is Fox wearing a green shirt and white overalls, is he trying to be Fire Luigi?

  • question: even tho falco kicks the reflector...does it still reflect projectiles??...im gonna b upset if it doesnt

  • yes

  • thats the name of Fox's upB

  • thanks

  • im glad that they tooned down the shineing because that shit was so annoying

  • I always like the weird characters, I loved Luigi and falco, even tho falco looks like hes hard to control I really wanna play with him!!

    I also like marth hes not that weird tho

  • can you also make a vid of meta knight and pit? :P

  • no...but he should! i mean he has 2 perfectly good wings THAT ANRENT BROKEN!

  • I'm sorry, how is this spam?

  • In melee all i used is falco but i think i might change 2 wolf or sonic

  • you expalain these so well good man

  • thx for the good advice

  • falco has changed and gotten a little but if you watch a view videos where the guy knows how to use this new falco, he has a lotta combo potential, I guess he's just one of those weird characters like jigglypuff who end up kicking ass if used right.

  • On 9:27 Wolf's damage % is on where it would say CP above his head. I wonder if it appears in the rest of the game or just in training mode.

  • Probably just in training. I am also guessing that the reason that happens is because of an option to get rid of the percentage things at the bottom.

  • Awesome video. I've been wanting to see characters moves like this with descriptions of what you're pressing.

  • man you sure do love your back airial attacks dontcha? i wonder if you could win a match woth just back airs???

  • Looks like Falco has potential, but needs some time to get used to if you wanna use him right.

  • I think I might use Fox this time.

  • yeah nice vid... but fox's lasers didn't stun in melee

  • He said that Fox's lasers didn't stun, LIKE in Melee.

  • lol It sounded like did. OK.

  • Looks like I must "invent" new combos for Falco, at Melee I had many differente Combos with him, but I see he changed alot, so back to the drawing board when I get Brawl XD

  • Thanks for the awesome videos man , i've been looking for this stuff for ages and finally i found your great vids.

    Also i'm glad to see falco has new moves , they seem interesting and i'm sure he'll be so cool ;)

  • Great video. Although i def think ill be playing with wolf alot i personaly like falcos new moves and have come up with a few good stratigies with his reflector.

  • awesome job. not an annoying voices like the others. keep up the good work. gonna watch all your vids

  • thx bro =) finally someone who knows how to make a "character moveset video"

  • KinkLink5 thanks for answering but i still dont get it

    i may be a little slow

    yeah

  • quick question

    what the hell is a 'tier'??

  • If one bothered to answer you, it would only create more questions that you don't really want to worry about.

    But long story short, it's a reflectance of what characters do the best in tournaments.

  • The tier list is a list of characters arranged in groups known as tiers with the purpose to show on average how good a character is. In Melee, there were five tiers- Top, High, Middle, Lower, Bottom. There are also distinctions inside a tier (for instance, Fox is on average better than Falco, so his name comes before Falco's).

  • infil, is falcos down air a meteor smash sometimes? because in another video, i saw it being used and instead of spiking, it was weak and did multiple hits like fox's. do u have to hit with the tip of it or something or the middle of it to se it as a spike?

    if anything comment back and thanks =]

  • Okay. IT'S METEOR SMASH. STOP FOLLOWING THE FADS AND CALLING THEM SPIKES. nice vid

  • Meteor smashes and spikes are two different things. A meteor smash is a specific move that sends the someone straight down, but can be meteor cancelled (with maybe a jump or an up+b). A spike, however is a regular move that just happens to send someone straight down, so getting out of that relies on damage, not how fast you can press jump.

  • A meteor smash, however is a regular move that just happens to send someone straight down. >_>

  • No, there's no L-canceling in the game. My brother and I were doing it out of habit from Melee.

  • falco was a top tier in melee..now is...well..i dont like that much..prefer melee..

  • oh no you have to find another character everyone uses?...

    boo hoo get over it.

  • wow. They made falco bad. Like a top tier character to mewtwo. wow. that really sucks.

  • but falco was never top tier

  • There were two top tiers, Fox and Falco.

  • Thank God they decided to slightly declone the clones. Awesome

  • THANK GOD!!!!!! SWEET JUSTICE!

  • You always say "I'm running out of time."

    Lol.

  • DO MORE VIDEOS!!!

    I want Diddy lol.

  • Has Falco been changed enough to no longer be considered a clone? Luigi has, Lucas's moves are similar but mostly different to Ness, Wolf is not a clone, but Ganondorf and Toon Link are still practically clones.

  • falco is nothing like a clone. If anything, he's so different that Wolf is the closest thing to Fox.

  • Man first of all i'd like to thank you for all these super cool videos , i've been looking around for these kind of vids and i finally found yours. Then i was wondering if falco really got worse than in melee 'cause i love him .

    Thx and good luck

  • Well, a lot of people seem to think Falco isn't too nerfed and I'm glad because he was my main in Melee. It's weird to see how weak his down tilt is and his forward smash looks like it lost a lot of range...all the old shine combos will be gone(different at least) the sh laser doesn't look as useful either...couldn't really tell from the vid.

    Please make more videos soon Infil, they are very informative...especially since you clearly know Melee well. Don't listen to the assholes.

  • Yes, that's what I meant. "Just like in Melee, Fox's blaster does not create hit stun." Hard to choose proper sentence structure when you're playing and feeling rushed for time, I guess.

    I'm no pro with Falco. The mechanics of Brawl are different and I wasn't used to controlling him. Though I'm glad some people are discussing ways to use him (uses for the shine, etc) instead of just saying "wow u suck with falco".

    If that's all you have to say, go somewhere else.

  • r u using L cancels

  • ther r no lcancels

  • theres no L cancels in the game????

  • NO they took it out

  • u have the game??

  • no it is already confirmed people tried it didnt work

  • no the recovery on some moves seem like it was already l canceled

  • ohhhh....man put wolf espose and u will hear the L-canceling i just realize that =)=)=)=)

  • No, there's no l-canceling. It's just the lag from most aerials are cut down so much it's almost like an auto-l-cancel.

  • He's basically doing it out of habit. From what I've seen there's less lag between the moves so it's not as big a deal. The technique never really made sense in the context of the game controls.

  • omg they ruined falco...

  • to me falco is easy best carecter in melee and to me fox and falco are different

  • wth Falco i believe you could send him off the cliff shine him then as he tries to ricover drill him with air down a but i think thats the only use for shining to kill with Falco...

  • dont underestimate falco that guy said the deflector dont do anything but it knocked the guy farther back an can set up for his spike any falco user is that is good should have saw that in this vid.

  • who is better. falco or fox?

  • Shine actually seems to be more of a defensive/camping move now (for Falco). Short Hop Double Laser --> Shine. If the opponent jumps, they get hit by the lasers, and if they stay on the ground, the get hit by the shine. Seems like a nice retreat option; maybe it'll work for approaches, even.

  • I like his new axe kick.Its looking pretty sick.And those who are opting for other characters? Do so in piece ok faggets? We all know those that leave a certain character are in fact tier whores and never will change.Go join your fagget ass bandwagons,CRACKERS! XD!@@!

  • im disappointed with falco. he was mymain inmelee cause of his powerful side smash that had good range, speed, good jump, and good recovery. now hes a slow power character. i quess ill go with sonic.

  • this guy seems to be good but he cant even spike a computer with falco which means he aint a falco user.

  • It wasn't the computer. It was his friend who was doing something other than what he asked, hence the confusion. Pay more attention before you make an ass of yourself.

  • Fox's blaster never stunned in Melee.

  • I was thinking this too. He just said it weird.

    He meant "It doesn't stun, like in Melee."

  • That could be it.

  • It did in 64. I think that's what he meant.

  • GO FOX!!

  • Infil, you rule.

    But...question...

    Drill shine?

  • A drill kick, followed by a down-b. Fox's shield is also known as "shine", it was arguably deadliest and most diverse move in melee.

  • lol one of falcos costumes makes him look like a crow XD

  • falco isnt nerfed, he's differant, but he's still one of the best aerial fighters,

    this time around his range and effectiveness have been boasted in exchange for some of his old fluidity.

  • sweet thanks man

  • Nice video, thanks!

  • i will master falco again  if i have to.

  • good news: Falco = no clone

    bad news: I mained him in Melee, and now he's nerfed...lookin' for another main now!

  • Lucario! Lucario! Lucario! Lucario!

  • XD Same here!

    I know Lucario will be good, and I think that Wolf is gonna roxorz

  • falco changed, but he's not nerfed. I'm excited by his moveset, a lot of his moves do cutting damage now, and that shine is now a good move interrupter. Can't wait!