if anyone thinks you can get an electric shock from 12 v car battery or charge you should just leave this debate because you are 2 thick to understand anything about electrics! the only shock you could possibley get from this electro etching is the static charge that builds up on the plastic container! which is quite unlikely but may happen!
Electroetching is no good for PCBs since the traces get eaten of by the etching and the etching stops before the etching is done. But it's great for doing fancy ethings on various metal plates etc.
a 12v car battery can knock the shit out of you worse than 220v because it's direct current wear a metal watch touch one side to the metal body of the car touch the other side to the positive terminal on the battery and watch it get melted off your arm
Dude thats the current through a low resistance path at work. The I^2R produces is very high since currents can reach may be more than 100 amps. The case with electric shock is totally different. A 12V car battery can't make enough current to flow through the human body (high resistance) to cause a shock. Try it your self. I have tried it many times in my home lab and with my car.
May be it can give a shock. but it can never drive 400AMPS man. Check your body resistence after you wet ypur hands. It will never go anywhere below some 100 or so Kilo Ohms.
Many questions: 1 - What do you use as electrolyte ? 2 - The other rod, what metal do you use for it ? 3 - By what ratio do you speed-up the etching compared to classic FeCl ? 4 - Do you have to preheat the electrolyte before starting electro-etching ?
1. He said his electrolyte was water in the video.
2. The other rod looks like it's probably iron/stell (a fair assumption since it's a threaded rod with a greyish/silver color). The composition of the rod doesn't really matter as long as it's conductive.
3. The more current, the faster the reaction. The speed is variable. Etching with FeCl is variable as well depending on concentration.
4. Preheating is not required. Technically the hotter the system gets the slower it will etch. This is because resistance increases as the materials get hotter, therefor less current. Less current means less electrolysis which results in fewer copper atoms being oxidized.
This is cool, and as a student of metals myself I have three questions. First: what are you etching here (what base metal?), Second: what is the electrolyte being used? Third: it cuts off before you say what the electrolyte for copper is, what is the elctrolyte for copper, is it just dilute sulfuric acid?
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No0Nik 7 months ago
Oh my god... why would you cut the video off there????
Continue..."when etching copper instead of using a saltwater electorolit you would use..."
???????
1984in2010 10 months ago 4
there is a serious bird crap on your power supply
szajbaszajbaszajba 1 year ago
what is the voltage that is used? does it work with 6 volts?
wal63942 1 year ago
what is the voltage that is used?
wal63942 1 year ago
if anyone thinks you can get an electric shock from 12 v car battery or charge you should just leave this debate because you are 2 thick to understand anything about electrics! the only shock you could possibley get from this electro etching is the static charge that builds up on the plastic container! which is quite unlikely but may happen!
magicknight92 1 year ago
does anyone know a better video explaining this?
I understand electrolysis, but not how to prep the PCB, this video is short.
RealNeurotiq 2 years ago
Electroetching is no good for PCBs since the traces get eaten of by the etching and the etching stops before the etching is done. But it's great for doing fancy ethings on various metal plates etc.
derfpa1 2 years ago
They use salty water (2:15). It makes chlorine.
disappearences 2 years ago 2
Why what about a car battery...I have touched it and didn't get electrocuted. Also car battery at 12 V never electrocutes any one
exnol 2 years ago
no shit, low voltage, and your hand dry
First2ner 2 years ago
a 12v car battery can knock the shit out of you worse than 220v because it's direct current wear a metal watch touch one side to the metal body of the car touch the other side to the positive terminal on the battery and watch it get melted off your arm
bluethunderhorse 2 years ago
Dude thats the current through a low resistance path at work. The I^2R produces is very high since currents can reach may be more than 100 amps. The case with electric shock is totally different. A 12V car battery can't make enough current to flow through the human body (high resistance) to cause a shock. Try it your self. I have tried it many times in my home lab and with my car.
exnol 2 years ago
@exnol Try wetting your fingers first. Used as a torture technique dude, hurts like fuck.
bedeone 2 years ago
@bedeone
I haven't tried that yeat. I hope you are right. Any way I don't want to test it. But still the guy who said 12V is worse than 220 is mistaken...
exnol 2 years ago
The voltage isn't what you need to worry about, the current is and at 400 amps it'd electrocute EVERYONE.
RetroRepair 2 years ago
Pardon me, it'd give you a nice electric SHOCK. Electrocution implys death :)
RetroRepair 2 years ago
@RetroRepair..
May be it can give a shock. but it can never drive 400AMPS man. Check your body resistence after you wet ypur hands. It will never go anywhere below some 100 or so Kilo Ohms.
exnol 2 years ago
And why is that girl asking "Will you get electrocuted" - I never heard of anyone electrocuted at 12V DC...
exnol 2 years ago
what about a car batt???
sounduser 2 years ago
Many questions: 1 - What do you use as electrolyte ? 2 - The other rod, what metal do you use for it ? 3 - By what ratio do you speed-up the etching compared to classic FeCl ? 4 - Do you have to preheat the electrolyte before starting electro-etching ?
Thanks for your attention...
ve2zzz 2 years ago
1. He said his electrolyte was water in the video.
2. The other rod looks like it's probably iron/stell (a fair assumption since it's a threaded rod with a greyish/silver color). The composition of the rod doesn't really matter as long as it's conductive.
3. The more current, the faster the reaction. The speed is variable. Etching with FeCl is variable as well depending on concentration.
wshellcry 2 years ago
4. Preheating is not required. Technically the hotter the system gets the slower it will etch. This is because resistance increases as the materials get hotter, therefor less current. Less current means less electrolysis which results in fewer copper atoms being oxidized.
wshellcry 2 years ago
little tommy was a chemist,
little tommy is no more,
'cause what he thought was H2O,
was H2So4!
:)
Nowekian 3 years ago 39
pulitzer award
emel60 2 years ago
:-D
Nowekian 2 years ago
:-P
emel60 2 years ago
@Nowekian I had to look that up... lol
fst3v0 1 year ago
@fst3v0 but now you know... and knowing is half the battle!
Nowekian 1 year ago
I think an ostrich done number 2's on your power supply ;)
kiore22 3 years ago 7
Hydrogen the same stuff you can run your engine on.
LeoBullterrier 3 years ago
yes... you spaz! :@
msezza 2 years ago
I ma gona use this to etch my PCB's
BikesXtreme 3 years ago
lol so very cool. you can do the same thing with iodized salt and a 12v battery:-P it makes iodine
e709e1 3 years ago
This is cool, and as a student of metals myself I have three questions. First: what are you etching here (what base metal?), Second: what is the electrolyte being used? Third: it cuts off before you say what the electrolyte for copper is, what is the elctrolyte for copper, is it just dilute sulfuric acid?
drum0308 3 years ago
i like etching Using HCL Acid
samanthms123 4 years ago
This acid is very daungerous, better you should use FeCl
BikesXtreme 3 years ago
good video for me
dineshtilva 4 years ago