i loved the sound of the old xsara wrc car, and the c4 sounded even better, much better then the fords, but this sound, while still decent, doesnt match the old engine noises.
i personally love the ds3, but the standard road car sounds better than this, frankly if it weren't for the images on screen i wouldnt be surprised to find that it was a nitro rc car not a rally car. frankly they should chav it up, put a 6 inch exhaust pipe on the back and hear it roar, or perhaps introduce a minimum noise level
@01Chenti It's not power they're concerned about, it's fuel consumption. These cars are not only racing machines, they also represent cars of the future. Car's of the future need to get better gas mileage, while still making power. Turbos increase mileage, wheres literage decreases it.
In 1986 - about 25 years ago - Lancia Delta S4 produced 480 bhp with a 1759 cc four cylinder supercharged-turbocharged engine. So I think a 1,6 L. turbocharged engine will be more than enough in 2011.
It looks and sounds like a J-WRC car regardless of its 300bhp. Im all for turbo restrictors to prevent casualties but this 1.6 I think will greatly decrease excitment on the grounds that it doesnt sound or look as powerful or aesthetic as the old cars..:/
ils ont fait un boulot de taré sur le 1.6THP pour en sortir 300ch !!!!! LE ration poids/puissance va être démoniaque surtout avec les 4 roues motrices et son empâtement court ! Le nouvel engin à victoire de loeb/elena =) bon courage a eux et a CTR
corenida I don´t agree, it will be great for the sport, the cars nowadays cost around 500 000 Euros each, 2011 around 250 000, and with this big reduction, there will be lots of new teams, bigger competition, not this crap you see today only 2 teams fighting for victory, there will be peugeot, citroen, ford, vw, toyota, suzuki, skoda and fiat, at least this guys, so I think it will be great.... but thats my opinion, and about the cars, don´t worry they will be as fast as the wrc´s of 2010...
pour l'instant les essais sont menés avec moteur 2.0 T bridé en attendant le 1.6 T. vivement son entré en compétition avec les autres fiesta, mini cooper et autre constructeurs potentiels.
déjà que la C4 WRC est une tuerie, la DS3 WRC qui en découle ça va être de la bombe! Car en étant plus compacte que la C4, la DS3 sera carrément plus maniable... une bombinette future star des podiums, et on peu tous faire confiance à Citroën et au binôme Loeb/Elena pour ça.
bonjour je suis fan de citroen depuis toujours j'ai une c5 et une xm2.5 purais pour quoi citroen ne sorte pas une voiture comme ca de serie on et 7 fois champion du monde pour contrais les voiture pouri des allemandes.vivement que seb la en main pour voir sa .
Its for saving production cost, that way more manufacturers , rather than just two , look wat happen to F1 , lowered costs smaller engines, saw the come back of many new faces. So its for the good .. just adapt to the evolution of this sport. Doing rally ain't cheap..
The NEW regulations are made to keep the Japanese manufacturers out from the competition so that the European manufacturers can have all the publicity.
It's all about money here.
FIA is french, Citroen is french, Pipo Moteur are french, so make the connections.
Citroen could win 20 times the WRC but they will never make history like Subaru, Toyota or Mitsubishi back in the good days.
A 10 year old Lancer Evo Makinen Edition will piss on every Citroen they will bring
it might have escaped your notice but the evo and impreza road cars are made to be as close to the wrc regs of the time as possible whilst being a street car. there is nothing to stop the japanese manufacturers doing the same thing again and wiping the smile of citroens face, they just choose not to.
Subaru at least doesn't have a car for the S2000 class. They don't build small cars like the 207, Fiesta or DS3. And there is also a problem regarding the engine and the gear box position.
@corenida this regulation also pushes the r&d beyond its limit.... earlier to this when it was pulled to 2.0 people said something similar... but watch the videos they are equally damn good.... also it makes the car & driver more eco friendly, by making them use the last little drop of energy left & conserve it too... what say :)
@corenida well if it want for regulations in any sport then we wouldnt gain from the technolighy that gos into the making of these cars, like my self who would of thought of a 1.6 diesel engine able to produce 136 bhp 10 years ago on a road going car??
However I don`t understand why they are going for smaller cars from C4 to DS3, Ford from Focus to Fiesta,... I know about new rules regarding smaller turbo engines instead 2.0 to 1.6 but why go for smaller cars and what about the rest of the rules? Can someone please explain?
i loved the sound of the old xsara wrc car, and the c4 sounded even better, much better then the fords, but this sound, while still decent, doesnt match the old engine noises.
Gamer120694 3 months ago
i personally love the ds3, but the standard road car sounds better than this, frankly if it weren't for the images on screen i wouldnt be surprised to find that it was a nitro rc car not a rally car. frankly they should chav it up, put a 6 inch exhaust pipe on the back and hear it roar, or perhaps introduce a minimum noise level
car55adam 11 months ago
You guys do you know technology?
Old bugatti engine = 12.7 L 12 cyl, 100PS...
4 cyl 1.6L in WRC in 2011...well...but how much PS? Come On!!!
InfameRAP 1 year ago
loeb u are best !!!!!!!
021kds 1 year ago
they should hav left the engine 2.0L and restrict the PSI on the turbos
01Chenti 1 year ago
@01Chenti It's not power they're concerned about, it's fuel consumption. These cars are not only racing machines, they also represent cars of the future. Car's of the future need to get better gas mileage, while still making power. Turbos increase mileage, wheres literage decreases it.
EASiedlecki 1 year ago
FIA ruined rallying!
bangerke 1 year ago
It's good for everybody, the're gonna make smaller engines and it will be better for people like us. It's economic in gas.
ghune 1 year ago
In 1986 - about 25 years ago - Lancia Delta S4 produced 480 bhp with a 1759 cc four cylinder supercharged-turbocharged engine. So I think a 1,6 L. turbocharged engine will be more than enough in 2011.
jozesz 1 year ago
will continue to make ever smaller engines, up to a radio control and less power over, verybad
leknightcluber 1 year ago
It looks and sounds like a J-WRC car regardless of its 300bhp. Im all for turbo restrictors to prevent casualties but this 1.6 I think will greatly decrease excitment on the grounds that it doesnt sound or look as powerful or aesthetic as the old cars..:/
clinteastwoode 1 year ago
new F1 engine in 2013: 4cyl 1,5 L. turbo
new WRC engine in 2011: 4 cyl 1,6 L. turbo
No problem ?
Shootaababylone 1 year ago 2
looks like it would need a few hp more.
w3llet 1 year ago
rally is going to be insane next year haha mini is back too
SCARSAC 1 year ago
@biggred333 i bet ur just guessing or something XD
jigo53 1 year ago
Citroën DS3 WRC
Super !!! I want one please Sebastian
LaMiJazz 1 year ago
i want the group-B back 600hp a steer en 4wheels thats rally
marselino254 1 year ago 4
@marselino254 So you basically just want to see more dead really drivers?..
mYOzZyKaT 1 year ago
ils ont fait un boulot de taré sur le 1.6THP pour en sortir 300ch !!!!! LE ration poids/puissance va être démoniaque surtout avec les 4 roues motrices et son empâtement court ! Le nouvel engin à victoire de loeb/elena =) bon courage a eux et a CTR
soundboy40 1 year ago 2
how come its all citroens and fords? are there any peugeots competing?
jigo53 1 year ago
poubelle.... citroen n'a jamais fabriqué des voitures de série de course.... c'est facile de payer le wrc et d'avoir le réglement dans sa poche.....
c'est quoi la voiture de série la plus puissante chez citroen? ils connaissent le 4x4 lol?
polowak 1 year ago
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MrOse317 1 year ago
@polowak Peux-tu argumenter tes propos, au lieu de les balancer comme ça.
MrOse317 1 year ago
@polowak C'est quoi une voiture de "série de course" ?? C'est pas soit une voiture de série soit une voiture de course?
DiscipledeJah 1 year ago
@polowak La WRC de cette année (la C4) fait 320ch. En rallye, la puissance ne sert à rien, c'est la motricité qui compte. Les C4 sont des 4x4.
Actuellement, la voiture de série la plus puissante chez Citroën fait 240ch.
JonyJon68270 1 year ago
che schifo!!! per tagliare i costi dei rally!! fanno questo???
ippolix 1 year ago
Super DS3 citroén avc ça sébastien lobel peut gagné tout les course car sais une magnifique véhicule de course bravo séb
bastin97 1 year ago
MINI IS COMING BACK!
jammiejamie96 1 year ago
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@jammiejamie96
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Mini is... minimal
ahahahaha
cumbas 1 year ago
@sebvan50 stupid noob
Rexart35 1 year ago
Nice car, can't wait to see the final version in action.
goumyz 1 year ago
is this using the c4 engine?
bentleyv8t 1 year ago
corenida I don´t agree, it will be great for the sport, the cars nowadays cost around 500 000 Euros each, 2011 around 250 000, and with this big reduction, there will be lots of new teams, bigger competition, not this crap you see today only 2 teams fighting for victory, there will be peugeot, citroen, ford, vw, toyota, suzuki, skoda and fiat, at least this guys, so I think it will be great.... but thats my opinion, and about the cars, don´t worry they will be as fast as the wrc´s of 2010...
Luigizinho 1 year ago
I will miss the C4 and Focus :/ This video makes me cry :
nos97 1 year ago
THIS CAR LOOKS SHOCKING!
FMECCTV 1 year ago
Il parait un Mini Clubman avec la geule de un GS avec Stanozolol
benoit1977 1 year ago
It looks like a stupid toy car
sebvan50 1 year ago
@sebvan50 yes...fiesta is so prettier
fontasierrars500 1 year ago
I prefer the C4 it looks better and steady, rather this small ds3.
sebvan50 1 year ago 3
Il faut pas oublier la fiesta s2000, qui sera la base de la wrc de ford...
barkinsahin 1 year ago
Dico che come base è bella forte... x il motore bisognerà aspettare le evoluzioni come in tutte le auto uscite fin ad ora...
SebaRally 1 year ago
pour l'instant les essais sont menés avec moteur 2.0 T bridé en attendant le 1.6 T. vivement son entré en compétition avec les autres fiesta, mini cooper et autre constructeurs potentiels.
damis974 1 year ago
The 1.6T engine regulations have already been finalized.
rendezvous65 1 year ago
parece k corre muxo menos k el c4 wrc
ricckkyyy 1 year ago
déjà que la C4 WRC est une tuerie, la DS3 WRC qui en découle ça va être de la bombe! Car en étant plus compacte que la C4, la DS3 sera carrément plus maniable... une bombinette future star des podiums, et on peu tous faire confiance à Citroën et au binôme Loeb/Elena pour ça.
madtux01 1 year ago
fini citroen marque de papy
sly540 1 year ago
sarà una promessa quell'auto!!!!vai citroen!!!!!
1980giuseppe 1 year ago 2
ma qui a al motore della c4???
simo92r 1 year ago
bonjour je suis fan de citroen depuis toujours j'ai une c5 et une xm2.5 purais pour quoi citroen ne sorte pas une voiture comme ca de serie on et 7 fois champion du monde pour contrais les voiture pouri des allemandes.vivement que seb la en main pour voir sa .
amicalement david
ardechois07170 1 year ago
ces essai ce sont déroulé à coté de portel des corbières dans l'aude. pour y avoir assisté plusieurs fois c'est toujours aussi génial.
carpediemnar76 2 years ago 2
On 2011 we will have 2.0 engines not 1600.
1984Konrado 2 years ago
in 2011 will be 1600 engines with turbo
fmzelixir 1 year ago
I Loeb DS3 WRC !!
charlyrs38 2 years ago 30
Remplaçante de la DS3? Wait and See...
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jorgeselk 2 years ago
to me it looks like either the nissan gtr the new one or the nissan 360z lol ?
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zultan18 2 years ago
the regulation of 1,6 engine for 2011 is stupid
corenida 2 years ago 43
They lowered the capacity size down to 1.6 because of emissions.
DZoneTV 2 years ago
Its for saving production cost, that way more manufacturers , rather than just two , look wat happen to F1 , lowered costs smaller engines, saw the come back of many new faces. So its for the good .. just adapt to the evolution of this sport. Doing rally ain't cheap..
DRONUX 2 years ago
@corenida
Get over it.
DZoneTV 1 year ago
@corenida is not stupid because the spectacularity is increased
mentefusa 1 year ago
@corenida Competition needs to match real world. Competition is only a way to sell cars and get early testing of future technologies. No more!
lcf34 1 year ago
@corenida
The NEW regulations are made to keep the Japanese manufacturers out from the competition so that the European manufacturers can have all the publicity.
It's all about money here.
FIA is french, Citroen is french, Pipo Moteur are french, so make the connections.
Citroen could win 20 times the WRC but they will never make history like Subaru, Toyota or Mitsubishi back in the good days.
A 10 year old Lancer Evo Makinen Edition will piss on every Citroen they will bring
on the market
MirceaBv 1 year ago
@MirceaBv all "japanese" car(english prodrive) we lost against a Citroen.
subaru,suzuki and mitsubishi cry !
You are a fuckin jealous of citroen...you suck
corenida 1 year ago
@corenida
I talk about the street cars moron.
And learn some fucking English!
MirceaBv 1 year ago
@MirceaBv
it might have escaped your notice but the evo and impreza road cars are made to be as close to the wrc regs of the time as possible whilst being a street car. there is nothing to stop the japanese manufacturers doing the same thing again and wiping the smile of citroens face, they just choose not to.
daswalrus 1 year ago
@daswalrus
Subaru at least doesn't have a car for the S2000 class. They don't build small cars like the 207, Fiesta or DS3. And there is also a problem regarding the engine and the gear box position.
MirceaBv 1 year ago
@corenida this regulation also pushes the r&d beyond its limit.... earlier to this when it was pulled to 2.0 people said something similar... but watch the videos they are equally damn good.... also it makes the car & driver more eco friendly, by making them use the last little drop of energy left & conserve it too... what say :)
tantragna 1 year ago
@corenida they still have 300 hp so shut up
CssHelper 1 year ago 7
@corenida well if it want for regulations in any sport then we wouldnt gain from the technolighy that gos into the making of these cars, like my self who would of thought of a 1.6 diesel engine able to produce 136 bhp 10 years ago on a road going car??
peterfennelly 1 year ago
The new wining car for Citroen!
However I don`t understand why they are going for smaller cars from C4 to DS3, Ford from Focus to Fiesta,... I know about new rules regarding smaller turbo engines instead 2.0 to 1.6 but why go for smaller cars and what about the rest of the rules? Can someone please explain?
tyraela115 2 years ago
maybe companies wants to sell more smaller cars? ;)
drLazyEvil 2 years ago
Actually, the most sold cars are small like Fiesta and more.
Tibberia 2 years ago
In the actual market, citroen DS3 was designed to compete with the new mini by bmw....
safarikatt 2 years ago
@tyraela115 I'm guessing that the smaller cars are lighter and they have a shorter wheel base which is good in a rally car (or so I heard)
BlackHawk2669 2 years ago
cuando la musica estaba a puntpo de dar lo mejor la quitaron,, pero el video esta a todo dar..
tengo un saxo de citroen.. chico pero veloz..
manan1352 2 years ago
Chapeau Citroën ; en espérant que la DS3 fasse une entrée aussi fracassante que la C4... :-)
Gimmick49172 2 years ago
Espectacular, força Citroën.
rubenvalente 2 years ago