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my ex sugggested we try it 3 yrs ago,and we did i had 2 chicks a blonde and red head both late 20,s an she ended up wiv sum bald guy in his 50sha ha,i had a gr8 time im 39 now and would nener say never,but i wouldnt do it with my girl now as i feel 2 much for her,
what if the roles in a realationship are somewhat reversed? ie: the man is the more conservitave one and the wife the more adventurous? would "the girl is in control" really mean the less agressive one should be in control?
no real man would watch a man fuck his wife. sometime the curiousity comes from your inability to please her so she get curious about fucking other men, but she maybe love you and the dont want to break your heart by saying "you cant please me" so the best way to go about it is to swing she gets the pleasure she needs and you get some new pussy. it makes sence
To each their own. As long as everyone involved are willing participants and nobody gets hurt, then what's the problem? Over 50% of traditional marriages fail.... so who are the naysayers to say this lifestyle is wrong? Your morals are your morals, mine are mine, don't tell me yours are right and I won't tell you yours are wrong. Live and let live people.....
Personally this is against my moral beliefs. I believe that when you are in a relationship with someone you are completely in debt to them, swinging seems like something that friends would do, not a couple in a loving relationship. I mean if you like fucking other people that aren't your wife/girlfriend DON'T BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON!!! It's ridiculous sex is not a joke, it's an act of love to express ones emotions. I love sex but not when it becomes a big joke.
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If you have to swing, then your relationship is in serious trouble. I've been married 26 years and it's better today than when we first got married. My wife and I overheard a conversation about this at a restaurant a few days ago and I told her "I'll bet they talk about this on YouTube". Sure enough, here it is! It's a stupid lifestyle that generally can't lead to a happy ending. If you're thinking about it, better look at your relationship first.
@enwinor Looking at your response to ajklodhi says it all. Enjoy your empty swinger's lifestyle. My wife and I have a fabulous marriage and we could only ruin the high quality of our physical relationship by being swingers. From what I can tell swingers have low emotional intelligence and sit at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (go look it up if you want to know what that means).
@tritonrocks Swinging is a part of self-actualization for those who enjoy it. And it's hardly an empty lifestyle to share sexuality with close friends and like-minded free spirits, at least to those enlightened enough to understand that sex and love are related but different things. But thanks for the condescension.
@tritonrocks Why in the world did you click this video? Do you just troll around youtube, clicking on things you hate, so you can harass other people and act smugly superior?
@rmcdaniel423 If you saw my original comment, it's because my wife and I heard a comment about swinging at a restaurant and thought it was a strange lifestyle. We looked it up on YouTube and based on what we saw we agreed it was strange. Not trying to be superior or prudish or ultra-conservative religious. This lifestyle just doesn't make any sense to my wife and I, as we are best friends with "benefits" and don't need to share ourselves with others. It just seems so empty to us.
@tritonrocks "Not trying to be superior" you say. "Bullshit", I say. Is that why you felt compelled to leave insulting and condescending remarks aimed at people who DO find fulfillment in the lifestyle? You couldn't just politely go elsewhere? Youtube is infested with people who spout negative remarks at complete strangers in a way that would RARELY happen face to face. You are adding to that culture. Now you are just trying to save face because someone called you out. Pathetic.
@rmcdaniel423 You're right - "pathetic" accurately describes the lifestyle. I ran this by a few psychologist friends and they all said the same thing - many swingers have poor physical relationships with their mate and/or insecurity issues, or just very poor relationships. Sorry, the statistics are out there regarding this lifestyle and it doesn't support it. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones this doesn't apply to. RUN trcrte; IF resp=TRUE;; CAP usr;; CAP rte;; REP usr,rte;; END;
@tritonrocks I'm not talking about the lifestyle. I'm not part of the lifestyle. I don't care about the statistics. I'm not trying to defend anything.
@tritonrocks "many (traditional marriages) have poor physical relationships with their mate and/or insecurity issues, or just very poor relationships. Sorry, the statistics are out there regarding this lifestyle".
Your statistics look bad on both sides of the coin, sorry to say. Good relationships are hard, regardless of how you structure them.
@tritonrocks "Many (traditional marriages) have poor physical relationships with their mate and/or insecurity issues, or just very poor relationships. Sorry, the statistics are out there regarding this lifestyle and it doesn't support it. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones."
The statistics look bad on both sides of the coin. Good relationships are hard work, regardless of how you structure them.
I think YOU should look up Maslow to know what it means. Bottom level is survival basics (food, water, shelter, etc) "Sex" at that level is purely about procreation. Swinging is about sharing pleasure and affection with others, IN ADDITION to the loving relationship one already has established. That is about intimacy and self fulfillment at a higher level. Looks like your condescending need for esteem has backfired due to your poor understanding of Maslow.
@tritonrocks I find it hard to believe that at your 61 years age, as you wrote in your profile, you have a fabulous marriage. Or ... you're at the 6th marriage and you have a wife with 30 years younger than you.
@cornel10 Sorry I haven't been on for a while. I just completed a 4 week cruise with my ONE and ONLY wife. I can't imagine being with anyone else. We are best friends ... or as she says, friends with benefits! And the sex is oh so good. I am truly blessed with a wonderful, SKILLED woman! And swinging still looks like an empty lifestyle. I guess the more power to those that do it ... I just can't imagine it being any good.
@tritonrocks Yeah, you looks like an old-fashioned man, perhaps influenced by religious education. Swinging is an empty lifestyle,indeed, if you practice it with strangers . But if you have family friends, it could be very interesting.
@cornel10 Why does everyone bring religion into this? Why can't anyone, especially the swingers crowd, accept the fact that there are monogamous relationships out there because two people really connect well together? My wife and I are best friends. We also happen to be lovers. We often joke that we are "friends with great benefits!" I couldn't see being with another woman, it's that good. And disease free!
honest opinion, i agree, if you have been with somone for a long time and your relationship is great, swinging in my opinion is a great way to spice up your sex life. cause cmon, honeslty does anyone date a porn star? didnt think so, everyone gets bored of the same thing over and over lol. if you agree thumbs up. "doesnt mean for EVERYONE" great video
this duo are the best chas and dave tribute act since Elizabeth Taylor took steroids on a first date with Jesus holding flippers in Chartes cathedral.
Hmmm OK! We've been in the swinging scene for over 20 years and there's one thing we discovered, "ground rules" don't work for most people. In the heat of passion these rules tend to go flying out the window and cause more problems than they solve. When we decided to do as we feel when we're with another couple or lady we began having a lot more fun and the arguments disappeared. It's very important to keep it in perspective. It's not a lifestyle for everyone.
u may fuck my wife if you let me fuck yours ...i guess it's more fun with girlfriends rather... it's a sort feeling conveniently wounded after the session is over becasue we cheated on each other at the same time and we both knowwith whom.....SICK WORLD MAN ... LAME SHIT
@guyNbluejeans, I'm not going to argue about if God and Jezus are real, but I'm going to say the following.
If God made the the earth, heaven, animals plants and humans and then a human makes mistakes, its God who made that mistake by making a creature that can make mistakes.
I don't think God can take us accountable for swinging or anything that we do that is (wrong). As he created us.
funny you should say that. I read an interesting artical that had divorce rates in the lifestyle being almost in the single digit range and it's up to almost 60% in first time marriages in the vanilla world. just food for thought.
@ducatione great point. and it's not "swinging" that keeps divorce rates low, but rather the blatant honesty and communication you HAVE TO HAVE in that situation that takes the relationship to a new level. Very cool, thanks for sharing that.
I"ll comment on whatever the fuck I want to. Swinging is for douchebags and couples who do it set a horrible example for everyone. They might as well become degenerate pornstars
Swinging can help bring a couple closer together or just be a one time kind of thing. I don't think that a couple might be wierd or gross because they want to try it. I know my boyfriend and I would like to try it, and we have talked about it a lot. You just have to make sure that you set ground rules and that both are comfortable with the situation. I want to experiment because I'm curious, and he wants to try it because he wants to see me experience something new and be a part of it.
Tommy, you are the one that doesn't make sense. "There from Alabama". Did you mean "they're from" or more correctly "they are from"?
Obviously Tommy knows nothing about this subject OR Alabama. Alabama has many swing clubs and even private resorts, gay and str that allow not only nudity but encourage all types of sex - just not in the public areas. I hope Tommy does not read this because he might just want to try it there. That might ruin everything for us. Idiot
Club4play - you hurt my feelings calling me an idiot when you dont even know me. I was really more shocked that they are newlyweds already looking to swing. Tommy pretty damn good looking so if I do not try it there - it would be your loss for certain.
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must suck to know your wife/husband wants to screw another person because you're so bad in bed that she wants to find someone else to pleasure them.
If your partner brings up swinging you're better off leaving them because that's the biggest sign of an unhappy relationship. "i wanna be with you but i wanna screw someone else because you fail"
this probably comes from people who believe no sex before marriage who don't test out the car before they drive it
it has nothing to do with how good the sex is with your partner, a lot of people think recreational sex is something that is enjoyable to do and that sex is not necessarily a 1 on 1 experience.
That part of the body was designed to be a "one way street". What is wrong with a vagina, and by the way, there are no nerves that produce sexual stimulation in the colon. It is a purely selfish act on your part.
I need some help people. Everytime I give anal to girlfriend, the weirdest thing happens. She starts getting gassy and just farts like mad. It is a very ackward feeling on my penis and it honestly feels like my penis is on fire when it happens. My friends tell me this is not normal and their girlfriends just piss all over the bed. How do I stop my girlfriend's flatulance?
Why go anal? Your dick stinks..the room stinks..most woman don't enjoy it and it is just nasty. Who gets off on the smell of shit in the room? Stick to the vagina..it was made for love. :)
@ Crell1, I seriously loled when I read that comment. "And the ancient philosopher descended from the temple of knowledge, and in his wisdom declared: 'Perhaps, the ass was not made to be penetrated!'"
Disregarding the other two replies, I'd like to just let you know that compared to my experiences as a bisexual male, that isn't normal. If she is reacting like that to anal sex, then it's probably best not to go down that alley. All of our bodies are geared to certain things, and our nerves react differently. So, hate to say it man, but anal is not the way to go with this one.
Hope this helped, and I hope you have a blessed day.
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well when i'm with a new girlfriend, I find it helps to sneak up on her wiggle your dick in her ear, when she feels this nice sensation she normally freaks out and screams like a lunatic. after this happens i shove my weiner in her face, after this happens i usally get a restraining order, this is when i go for the move. i sneak into her house and go to town.
Btw...I do understand you somewhat. When I was your age and just started in a relationship, I was insecure and jealous too. Don't worry, you'll get over it.
"If their happiness (and that of others) relies on being with different people, then marriage is a meaningless gesture."
wow. Me and my other half are swingers. we have so much fun being in the lifestyle. saying that we shouldn't get married bc we like to play with others too is stupid. we are perfect for eachother, were best friends, we just happen to think its fun to get with a group of others friend who feel the same way, get naked, and do what we want! It doesn't mean we don't do it.
PamPam719, in fairness I wouldn't go as far as saying they're stupid.
What you're is not an easy "just do it" thing.
It has numerous advantages as well as disadvantages & could go wrong in a number of areas.
I know what you mean by being "best friends" which I think is more important & comes before being married, but it takes a lot of neutral & careful decision making & mental adaptation for many to decide to get in or conclude that they fit in this lifestyle.
simply put, if you are so against the swinging lifestyle why are you here looking up info on it. I hate football thats why i never watch or look it up on the internet
im known as casual throughout the swingers network,i was a virgin before i got into the swingers scene,everyone made me feel so comfortable and ive had many encounters with all nationalties of various shapes and sizes but being 18 i find it hard to keep up with the expense of swinging regular every other day,thus this has drove me into gambling in order to win funds,just so i can go swinging..is this normal...casual!
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Then you and your girl are not candidates for swinging. Simple. Enjoy each other. Just don't equate swinging with cheating, they are two completely different things.
mmmmmmmm i dont think this swinging shit is healthy for a relationship...its like lending a motorcycle...but 100 times worst i would suffer every second seeing MY girl with another guy having a good time.... even if im offered the other girl i think i wouldnt do it... and im not any kind of religiousm catholic or purist shit...im just not into that swinging shit i think it could make a relationship wreck in one minute..
Different people use different terms... but "soft swap" usually means touching, kissing, etc. of the other person's partner - anything ASIDE FROM penetration.
Full swap thus usually means "penetration too".
Another term you'll often hear "same room only", meaning any interaction with the other person's spouse (and vice versa) requires everyone to be in the same room.
It's SO important to make these rules ahead of time with your partner, but realize they'll change over time. Talk. Talk. Talk.
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SORRY! Bobzeaux: I don't knoiw where you sexual history came from but their are a lot of persons in swinging including Christians. Put Christians Swinging into your search engine and see what comes up!
Answer is simple Bobzeaux: Boredom. Even if you get creative with your spouse, you can't come here and tell me that you have never wished you could do that gorgeos other next to you at the restarant: pure BS. I believe men (as much as they may deny it) will always want to do it with as many girls as possible because that's our animal nature. Some choose to let the rational man win and repress the urge, others acknolwledge the need, assess the risks and enjoy themselves aware of the implications.
Boys and girls are wired completely differently. Most boys don't see a moral issue in screwing around even if there are no feelings towards the girl in turn. Sex for boys can be only that. Girls tend to live sex as part of an amotional experience (there are some sluty ones who will screw your brains out for the sheer pleasure of it even if they love you as much as one of their door knobs) That's an important point when swinging. Watch out guys! your girl might be needing affection, not more sex.
My point is: Boys want more sex all the time and their feelings may lay perfectly safe aside because this is a nice game to play. But how about this girl who's (probably been) led into swinging by her man, and she's accepted, maybe subconsciously (and naively) anticipating relief to some unaddressed emotional issues? Swinging must be pure sex for emotionally fit & strong individuals, it won't fix anything broken and may tear up an already weak relation. Assess pros and cons responsibly B4U do it
Actually I CAN tell you that I've never wished I could do that gorgeous other next to me. Sorry.
(On the topic of having sex with as many people as possible, why do men feel that urge more than women? Speaking from a strictly biological standpoint, women should want to have more sex with as many men as possible since they've only got a finite number of eggs, they ovulate only 12 times a year, and the uterus is an acidic deathtrap for sperm. They should want it a LOT more than men. :S)
You're probably one of those very few men who will be happy living a monogamous life (or so you say)... congratulations on that!... but why is it easy FOR ME to understand and accept that... and so difficult FOR YOU to understand and accept that others might prefer a more varied experience in their lives? Could it possibly be that you're trying to force your own moral choices on others?
Because people who want "varied experience" are only going to end up hurting each other. Why has everyone on this planet forgotten that sleeping around with as many people as humanly possible hurts not only those around you, but you yourself? These people think they're happy playing the field, but years from now they realize that they've wasted their lives and now want something deeper and more meaningful, only to realize that they have no idea how to get it.
Well, well, you're probably right (no sarchasm) but then again, why does it bother you that people make other choices? I think you should mind your own business and if you don't approve or don't like what you see, you can always look somewhere else. People in this world need to start looking inside, not outside. Look at how much international embarrassment Bush has brought to the US for not learning this on time. I agree with you, though, some people might get badly hurt but u can't generalize.
This is an advice video. Someone asks how to ease into swinging, and my natural response is "do you HAVE to swing? Obviously you're uncomfortable with it, so why do it?" If Dan & Jenn didn't want feedback and opinions from other viewers, they wouldn't make these videos public.
(Does EVERYONE have to associate Bush with all evil/unhappiness in the world? Once he's out, whoever takes his place is only going to try to fix what he did to become the world's savior. It's nothing to worry about.)
That's right, it's advice. Adults may want to follow or leave it, but it remains their own choice and we have little to say about it, save for a few words of caution. I was neither promoting nor condemning it, I was commenting on why some poeple (probably even myself at one point) would want to try this out. I've thought about it with another girl and my wife but I don't know how much I could stand the view of another man AND my wife, so, I play it safe and shut up unless ready to take AND give.
Oh, and you're still 23, probably just married or enjoying this super-hot, let's-do-it-in-just-about-every-corner-of-the-house sex life all of us "pushing-forties" lived as well once...
How bored can you be when you just got back from your honeymoon or when you can get sex with a different partner everytime you get a chance because you're not fully commited to a single person for life yet?... See?
Your angle is quite different from mine or someone who's been married for more than 15 years
Actually I'm still single (and never even had a gf), and I'm getting this unfortunate feeling that it's because I, unlike a LOT men I've seen in my immediate universe, actually have a strong sense of morality.
If you've been married for more than 15 years and your spouse bores you that much, then I'm sorry, but you've made a mistake somewhere in life. With VERY few exceptions, every married couple I know is happily so and wouldn't want anyone else if they had the chance to swing or cheat.
I disagree with you here, someone who hasn't had a girlfriend at 23 is not someone I would be looking up to for advice on human relationships, no disrespect. If you have chosen to be single AND NOT have a girlfriend, good for you! but if you're not happy (that "unfortunate feeling") then something needs to be done.
Your logic is a bit off, though, if I am an advocate of gay rights, for example, that doesn't make me automatically gay, same for swinging and my supporting it or condemning it.
"someone who hasn't had a girlfriend at 23 is not someone I would be looking up to for advice on human relationships"
Many people (including dating experts) would tell you that what I have to say makes a lot of sense, despite my completely illogical lack of experience.
sorry, posted last comment before I ended. When you make statements like "many people", "experts in the field of...", you MUST provide NAMES, NUMBERS or other VERIFIABLE references. Your claims are empty unless I see some experts here supporting your view that someone who hasn't had a girlfriend at 23 is, indeed, a good source of information regarding relationships, dating AND SWINGING. If you haven't had a girlfriend how can you even begin to fathom the complexity of concepts like swinging?
What, now you've got to have sworn testimony from EVERY person I've spoken to? They agree with me because what I say is based on common sense and critical thinking. You don't need experience to know how to extrapolate.
Seriously now, I don't mean to disrespect you, but the more you type, the easier it is to make me look like I'm attacking you and I'm not, this started because you questioned those who may want to try out swinging and I still believe that they have every right to do it wether you like it or not. I'm neither in favor nor against it, I say some experiences in life shouldn't be missed and this might just be one of them but everyone has a mind of their own: Make your chioces, let others do the same.
If you're neither in favor of it or against it, then why did you even challenge my original claim in the first place? Would you have reacted differently if I was all for it?
The right is theirs and they're perfectly welcome to it. That doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.
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hey cracker....did you ever stop to think that maybe most of the couples that you know that are happily married are like that because they swing. You would never know and they would never tell you if they did. So get off your high horse and go get a job. When you grow up and learn a bit about life, come back and comment on this .
Actually, our "relationship" works just fine without swinging. We were together for 20 years before trying. We can take or leave it and it won't affect the way we feel about each other. People like you make sex the link that ties the couple together. If that link is broken the relationship dies. How sad is that! Love and emotions have nothing to do with it.
We save that for ouselves. I find younger people that have no clue about love and life are the ones that are the most judgmental. Get into a relationship ..not just a dumb puppylove thing. Be married for 20 years, have kids, go through all the stress that married people with kids go through and then comment. Until then you really have no clue.
What kind of a clue do YOU have? You're the one suggesting that the marriages of my peers only continue because of mutual infidelity (which you yourself don't need, so why bother pushing that point?).
bob if u dont like it then dont do it get off there fucking backs jeez i would not swing ether but im not going to judge anyone stop putting your views on others
i dont think swingers are seeking the advice from a "jesus" so keep your views to yourself and BTW ive looked at your post on this vid...they go back like 6 months???? wtf dude u seam very into others choices. Maybe you should be a TV vangelite they like to be in others biz too and a added perk dumb ass people will send you money:D look into it, just dont end up sucking a hookers dick for meth
But it's okay for you to impose YOUR views on others?
"they go back like 6 months????"
...Yes? So what? In a perfect world, people would be tolerant enough of differing ideas to just leave it alone. I can't help it that people like challenging what I have to say.
"just dont end up sucking a hookers dick for meth"
You and everyone else, I swear... If you're going to insult someone, can't you at least come up with an insult that actually MEANS something?
look dullard just cuz UUUUU dont get the insults does not mean they dont mean anything..i was making a comment about ted haggard..ya know the leader of your fake religon..ya he sucks dick for meth..as for me imposing my views>>WTF i just said i would not swing so my view is its not right for me..how is that imposing my ideas on others?? jeez bill O..thats rich u tell me to be tolerant of differnt ideas yet you have been bashing these people for the last 6 months????......good luck on faux news
What fake religion did I say I belonged to? Ted Haggard has nothing to do with what we're talking about here.
"get off there fucking backs"
What's the difference between me saying someone shouldn't do something, and you telling me that I shouldn't be doing something? If I'm imposing my beliefs on others, so are you.
"u tell me to be tolerant of differnt ideas yet you have been bashing these people for the last 6 months?"
Read it again, genius. They were ripping on me first.
oh good one.. look just cuz u type it does not mean its a fact ...as for my insult, ted haggard has nothing to do with swinging yes but i used his stupid ass to insult u...u did not get it at first IE your message 22 hours ago (3 back from this one) so i had to explain it to you . the point is im disagreeing with YOUR point of view not anyone elses so it is totally diffent then U whining about "swingings the devil and your marrage means nothing" BTW its not hard to tell your a wacko christian
You're "insult" is nonsense. What are you trying to convey?
"im disagreeing with YOUR point of view not anyone elses"
You're dodging my question; how is my disagreement to one point of view so horrible, but yours is perfectly fine?
"Wacko christian"? Yeah, THAT'S not judgemental at all. Anyway, Christianity is not fake or lead by Ted Haggard. The least you can do is get your facts straight.
again, im sorry u cant get what im saying... go back to school
hey kid, are you fuckng retarded?? MY point of view is i would not swing so?.....you ether cant understand that comment or your a tool
I am judging YOU not a lifestyle and please dont put the word "fact" and christianity in the same paragraph it makes u look dumb. BTW yes, ted haggard was the leader of the evangelic church but then he got caught with a dick in his mouth (wa wa wa wa waaaa)so anything else I can "enlighten" u on
did i say all christians are wacko??? nooooo! some are(you being one of them), look its not my fault your girl bangs other men so dont take it out on me or anyone else.. This back and forth is pointless cuz the point of the vid is if u want to swing, then swing. They dont give a shit what u think so fuck off.
Good idea to set those ground rules and make them unbreakable. Especially in the heat of the moment, a swinging situation could go sour pretty quickly if something goes wrong.
We've been in the lifestyle for about ten years, and can't agree with your suggestions more. PRIMARILY, you have to have a SOLID relationship. None of this "I'm more into than he/she is... but they'll come around eventually". That's simply a recipe for jealousy and drama. Keep up the good work Dan and Jenn. If you're ever in the So Cal area, look us up.
Though some may judge "swinging" and call the lifestyle and those in it unkind names. I believe it is a more enlightened lifestyle. And I think the people in it are more advanced humans.
I've usually found that the loudest and most judgmental people tend to have the most creative stuff to hide, and the least to "say".
Being judgmental of others is not exactly something to be proud of, but to each his own. Like Jennifer said below, our goal is to spread the "acceptance of others" idea with the world!
As long as you're not harming a person/animal/etc. - who cares - and who has the moral right - to say what consenting adults can do in the privacy of their bedrooms?
"I believe it is a more enlightened lifestyle. And I think the people in it are more advanced humans."
Great point, we feel the same way. So much of our society glorifies relationships based on fear, jealousy, and ownership. The ability to transcend this jealousy epidemic is enlightened indeed.
As we evolve more intellectually and spiritually as a race, we'll hopefully see much less judgmental attitudes, less violence, less jealousy - replaced by more love and acceptance for your fellow man.
"I believe it is a more enlightened lifestyle. And I think the people in it are more advanced humans."
I also feel the same way. My wife and I have discussed swinging and we will probably never try it. The kind of people involved in the lifestyle just seem so much more rational than most though and that makes me wish that I knew more of their sort. The kind of people is more of a draw than the actual sexual behaviour they practice in fact. They are much less jealous, insecure and judgmental.
Heh, is this the "civilization and freedom" USia wants to share with the world ? Freedom of promiscuity ? Bleh, no thanks, keep your vices to yourself please, barbarians.
Everybody, ignore Karry299. Surprised to say that this isnt the first time I've seen him commenting on a video. Every word out of his mouth is anti-American drivel. So just ignore him.
This doesn't just go on in the USA It goes on everywhere. At least "some" of us are educating people on how to do it the safe way. What's it to you anyways what other people do in privacy and agreed upon mutually between each other. Are they hurting you? Why are you even on here if you don't like it stop looking. Go play in your own sandbox. we like ours just the way it is. With lots of people in it.
Sorry but SKyyjohn is much better
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try clubs and websties? there is a good chance of an std with that kind of advice.
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Um I guess so long as everything is consensual and safe that's okay I mean I wouldn't do it but whatever floats your boat
devilshomie 6 months ago
my ex sugggested we try it 3 yrs ago,and we did i had 2 chicks a blonde and red head both late 20,s an she ended up wiv sum bald guy in his 50sha ha,i had a gr8 time im 39 now and would nener say never,but i wouldnt do it with my girl now as i feel 2 much for her,
3rk4u 8 months ago
what if the roles in a realationship are somewhat reversed? ie: the man is the more conservitave one and the wife the more adventurous? would "the girl is in control" really mean the less agressive one should be in control?
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paulomrodrigues 10 months ago
...and if you stop will your marriage last? the lifestyle will control you and not the other way around.
glion240 1 year ago
no real man would watch a man fuck his wife. sometime the curiousity comes from your inability to please her so she get curious about fucking other men, but she maybe love you and the dont want to break your heart by saying "you cant please me" so the best way to go about it is to swing she gets the pleasure she needs and you get some new pussy. it makes sence
bumboclate171 1 year ago
To each their own. As long as everyone involved are willing participants and nobody gets hurt, then what's the problem? Over 50% of traditional marriages fail.... so who are the naysayers to say this lifestyle is wrong? Your morals are your morals, mine are mine, don't tell me yours are right and I won't tell you yours are wrong. Live and let live people.....
ShaykeIt69 1 year ago
Personally this is against my moral beliefs. I believe that when you are in a relationship with someone you are completely in debt to them, swinging seems like something that friends would do, not a couple in a loving relationship. I mean if you like fucking other people that aren't your wife/girlfriend DON'T BE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH THAT PERSON!!! It's ridiculous sex is not a joke, it's an act of love to express ones emotions. I love sex but not when it becomes a big joke.
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@hostel969 Why did you click on this video?
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So do Dan and Jen actually swing and offer insights ? or are they a cookie cutter couple that just read letters online ?
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TheGrumpyCake 1 year ago
a life style where childerns interests are compromised solely for sake of sex making must be carefully looked at first.
ajklodhi 1 year ago
@ajklodhi *sigh*
enwinor 1 year ago
If you have to swing, then your relationship is in serious trouble. I've been married 26 years and it's better today than when we first got married. My wife and I overheard a conversation about this at a restaurant a few days ago and I told her "I'll bet they talk about this on YouTube". Sure enough, here it is! It's a stupid lifestyle that generally can't lead to a happy ending. If you're thinking about it, better look at your relationship first.
tritonrocks 1 year ago
@tritonrocks I'm glad you contributed such enlightened knowledge, Mr. Expert.
enwinor 1 year ago
@enwinor Looking at your response to ajklodhi says it all. Enjoy your empty swinger's lifestyle. My wife and I have a fabulous marriage and we could only ruin the high quality of our physical relationship by being swingers. From what I can tell swingers have low emotional intelligence and sit at the bottom of Maslow's hierarchy of needs (go look it up if you want to know what that means).
tritonrocks 1 year ago
@tritonrocks Swinging is a part of self-actualization for those who enjoy it. And it's hardly an empty lifestyle to share sexuality with close friends and like-minded free spirits, at least to those enlightened enough to understand that sex and love are related but different things. But thanks for the condescension.
enwinor 1 year ago
@tritonrocks Why in the world did you click this video? Do you just troll around youtube, clicking on things you hate, so you can harass other people and act smugly superior?
Pathetic.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 If you saw my original comment, it's because my wife and I heard a comment about swinging at a restaurant and thought it was a strange lifestyle. We looked it up on YouTube and based on what we saw we agreed it was strange. Not trying to be superior or prudish or ultra-conservative religious. This lifestyle just doesn't make any sense to my wife and I, as we are best friends with "benefits" and don't need to share ourselves with others. It just seems so empty to us.
tritonrocks 1 year ago
@tritonrocks "Not trying to be superior" you say. "Bullshit", I say. Is that why you felt compelled to leave insulting and condescending remarks aimed at people who DO find fulfillment in the lifestyle? You couldn't just politely go elsewhere? Youtube is infested with people who spout negative remarks at complete strangers in a way that would RARELY happen face to face. You are adding to that culture. Now you are just trying to save face because someone called you out. Pathetic.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 You're right - "pathetic" accurately describes the lifestyle. I ran this by a few psychologist friends and they all said the same thing - many swingers have poor physical relationships with their mate and/or insecurity issues, or just very poor relationships. Sorry, the statistics are out there regarding this lifestyle and it doesn't support it. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones this doesn't apply to. RUN trcrte; IF resp=TRUE;; CAP usr;; CAP rte;; REP usr,rte;; END;
tritonrocks 1 year ago
@tritonrocks I'm not talking about the lifestyle. I'm not part of the lifestyle. I don't care about the statistics. I'm not trying to defend anything.
I'm talking about YOU.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@tritonrocks "many (traditional marriages) have poor physical relationships with their mate and/or insecurity issues, or just very poor relationships. Sorry, the statistics are out there regarding this lifestyle".
Your statistics look bad on both sides of the coin, sorry to say. Good relationships are hard, regardless of how you structure them.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@rmcdaniel423 To each his own, I guess. Hey, next time I'm in Michigan I'll look you up and say "hi". Have a Merry Christmas.
tritonrocks 1 year ago
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@tritonrocks "Many (traditional marriages) have poor physical relationships with their mate and/or insecurity issues, or just very poor relationships. Sorry, the statistics are out there regarding this lifestyle and it doesn't support it. Maybe you're one of the lucky ones."
The statistics look bad on both sides of the coin. Good relationships are hard work, regardless of how you structure them.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@tritonrocks BTW . . .
I think YOU should look up Maslow to know what it means. Bottom level is survival basics (food, water, shelter, etc) "Sex" at that level is purely about procreation. Swinging is about sharing pleasure and affection with others, IN ADDITION to the loving relationship one already has established. That is about intimacy and self fulfillment at a higher level. Looks like your condescending need for esteem has backfired due to your poor understanding of Maslow.
rmcdaniel423 1 year ago
@tritonrocks I find it hard to believe that at your 61 years age, as you wrote in your profile, you have a fabulous marriage. Or ... you're at the 6th marriage and you have a wife with 30 years younger than you.
cornel10 9 months ago
@cornel10 Sorry I haven't been on for a while. I just completed a 4 week cruise with my ONE and ONLY wife. I can't imagine being with anyone else. We are best friends ... or as she says, friends with benefits! And the sex is oh so good. I am truly blessed with a wonderful, SKILLED woman! And swinging still looks like an empty lifestyle. I guess the more power to those that do it ... I just can't imagine it being any good.
tritonrocks 6 months ago
@tritonrocks Yeah, you looks like an old-fashioned man, perhaps influenced by religious education. Swinging is an empty lifestyle,indeed, if you practice it with strangers . But if you have family friends, it could be very interesting.
cornel10 6 months ago
@cornel10 Why does everyone bring religion into this? Why can't anyone, especially the swingers crowd, accept the fact that there are monogamous relationships out there because two people really connect well together? My wife and I are best friends. We also happen to be lovers. We often joke that we are "friends with great benefits!" I couldn't see being with another woman, it's that good. And disease free!
tritonrocks 6 months ago
honest opinion, i agree, if you have been with somone for a long time and your relationship is great, swinging in my opinion is a great way to spice up your sex life. cause cmon, honeslty does anyone date a porn star? didnt think so, everyone gets bored of the same thing over and over lol. if you agree thumbs up. "doesnt mean for EVERYONE" great video
demonsparkx 1 year ago
this duo are the best chas and dave tribute act since Elizabeth Taylor took steroids on a first date with Jesus holding flippers in Chartes cathedral.
MrPeeepeeepeee 1 year ago
This duo are the best chas and dave tribute act since Elizabeth Taylor took acid.
MrPeeepeeepeee 1 year ago
humcant seem to find a man who ill treat me like a princess
HildaBennett1 1 year ago
neva mind the swinging wot the f""k r u 2 drinkin!!
chutchybo 1 year ago
Hmmm OK! We've been in the swinging scene for over 20 years and there's one thing we discovered, "ground rules" don't work for most people. In the heat of passion these rules tend to go flying out the window and cause more problems than they solve. When we decided to do as we feel when we're with another couple or lady we began having a lot more fun and the arguments disappeared. It's very important to keep it in perspective. It's not a lifestyle for everyone.
AustraliaYouBeauty 1 year ago
what does swinging mean? O_O
spartanaman44 2 years ago
u may fuck my wife if you let me fuck yours ...i guess it's more fun with girlfriends rather... it's a sort feeling conveniently wounded after the session is over becasue we cheated on each other at the same time and we both knowwith whom.....SICK WORLD MAN ... LAME SHIT
munzerb 1 year ago
I wonder what does Jesus think when He looks down and sees what's going on in this world? (And no, I ain't no angel myself.)
guyNbluejeans 2 years ago
@guyNbluejeans, I'm not going to argue about if God and Jezus are real, but I'm going to say the following.
If God made the the earth, heaven, animals plants and humans and then a human makes mistakes, its God who made that mistake by making a creature that can make mistakes.
I don't think God can take us accountable for swinging or anything that we do that is (wrong). As he created us.
Snorremans 1 year ago
If you have a conscious that is God-given, and you violate it, then you're accountable.
guyNbluejeans 1 year ago
what relationship?
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idk
MrHothd 2 years ago
Swingers are libertarians types self-ownership, individual rights and all that yup
358Liberty 2 years ago
Does anyone know of any place in Alaska.
If not does anyone know hot to get a place started??
dirtywetkiss 2 years ago
Wow this video has 69 ratings, and I'm DEFINATELY not ruining that. I'm sure some other faggot will though.
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swingermyspace 2 years ago
I'd like be born into a midle-class two penissed gringo to fuck around with other's wife lol
Heliosx15005 2 years ago
Great tips, if you want to be in our are considering the lifestyle these are the people to hear.......Great JOB
defencecallus 2 years ago
These two people are the biggest fucking morons in the world. How about not swing and keep the divorce rate lower
Gmanbrooklyn 2 years ago
Second that.
furiouspride 2 years ago
stfu
unhingeddavo 2 years ago
funny you should say that. I read an interesting artical that had divorce rates in the lifestyle being almost in the single digit range and it's up to almost 60% in first time marriages in the vanilla world. just food for thought.
ducatione 2 years ago 3
@ducatione great point. and it's not "swinging" that keeps divorce rates low, but rather the blatant honesty and communication you HAVE TO HAVE in that situation that takes the relationship to a new level. Very cool, thanks for sharing that.
DanAndJenn 2 years ago
i will do it anytime with any1
MrPtikva 1 year ago
Don't comment when you have NO CLUE what you're talking about
deb1919 2 years ago
I"ll comment on whatever the fuck I want to. Swinging is for douchebags and couples who do it set a horrible example for everyone. They might as well become degenerate pornstars
Gmanbrooklyn 2 years ago
Thank you for making my point for me.
deb1919 2 years ago
Swinging can help bring a couple closer together or just be a one time kind of thing. I don't think that a couple might be wierd or gross because they want to try it. I know my boyfriend and I would like to try it, and we have talked about it a lot. You just have to make sure that you set ground rules and that both are comfortable with the situation. I want to experiment because I'm curious, and he wants to try it because he wants to see me experience something new and be a part of it.
annietx85 2 years ago 12
@annietx85 Just dump the dork and fuck a bunch of people you idiot. Get drunk first so you have an excuse.
AlexCzervic 1 year ago
wish i couls find a girl, willing to try it with me....and go swinging...and learn, it as life experience...anyone....
sidalidib 2 years ago
good! what is the name of this jazz song? Does anybody know?
j5santos 2 years ago
My fiance and I want to try swinging? And there from Alabama? Makes total sense.
TommyC503 2 years ago
Tommy, you are the one that doesn't make sense. "There from Alabama". Did you mean "they're from" or more correctly "they are from"?
Obviously Tommy knows nothing about this subject OR Alabama. Alabama has many swing clubs and even private resorts, gay and str that allow not only nudity but encourage all types of sex - just not in the public areas. I hope Tommy does not read this because he might just want to try it there. That might ruin everything for us. Idiot
chub4play 2 years ago
Club4play - you hurt my feelings calling me an idiot when you dont even know me. I was really more shocked that they are newlyweds already looking to swing. Tommy pretty damn good looking so if I do not try it there - it would be your loss for certain.
TommyC503 2 years ago
A lot of stupid motivated religious people commenting here. Why do you watch this ?
kamasutrajoy 2 years ago 3
its not hard to swing, u just need to be sneak about it =)
neoaethelwulf 2 years ago
I thought it was supposed to be about being open and honest, though.
ncfwhitetigress 2 years ago 10
@ncfwhitetigress After a year we(me and my honey) are wondering if you finally tried it and how it went? We did and it went great. :)
jimid64 10 months ago
@jimid64 Well actually I've decided that relationships are too annoying for me, even if they are sexually open. I'm glad you had fun, though.
ncfwhitetigress 10 months ago
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must suck to know your wife/husband wants to screw another person because you're so bad in bed that she wants to find someone else to pleasure them.
If your partner brings up swinging you're better off leaving them because that's the biggest sign of an unhappy relationship. "i wanna be with you but i wanna screw someone else because you fail"
this probably comes from people who believe no sex before marriage who don't test out the car before they drive it
DAOMAT 2 years ago
it has nothing to do with how good the sex is with your partner, a lot of people think recreational sex is something that is enjoyable to do and that sex is not necessarily a 1 on 1 experience.
lostclimate 2 years ago 5
all these stupid comments dont even make sence please stick with the topic morons!
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catfight0 2 years ago
That part of the body was designed to be a "one way street". What is wrong with a vagina, and by the way, there are no nerves that produce sexual stimulation in the colon. It is a purely selfish act on your part.
bobcon95 3 years ago
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elevatormechanic 3 years ago
I need some help people. Everytime I give anal to girlfriend, the weirdest thing happens. She starts getting gassy and just farts like mad. It is a very ackward feeling on my penis and it honestly feels like my penis is on fire when it happens. My friends tell me this is not normal and their girlfriends just piss all over the bed. How do I stop my girlfriend's flatulance?
pcornely 3 years ago
Why go anal? Your dick stinks..the room stinks..most woman don't enjoy it and it is just nasty. Who gets off on the smell of shit in the room? Stick to the vagina..it was made for love. :)
ca919a 3 years ago
perhaps, the ass was not made to penetrated.
Crell1 2 years ago
@ Crell1, I seriously loled when I read that comment. "And the ancient philosopher descended from the temple of knowledge, and in his wisdom declared: 'Perhaps, the ass was not made to be penetrated!'"
IcelandPride 2 years ago
Disregarding the other two replies, I'd like to just let you know that compared to my experiences as a bisexual male, that isn't normal. If she is reacting like that to anal sex, then it's probably best not to go down that alley. All of our bodies are geared to certain things, and our nerves react differently. So, hate to say it man, but anal is not the way to go with this one.
Hope this helped, and I hope you have a blessed day.
~Robert
AzrieldeMortis 2 years ago 3
She should consult her doctor, maybe. He/she might be able to recommend dietary changes/supplements to prevent that problem.
ncfwhitetigress 2 years ago
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well when i'm with a new girlfriend, I find it helps to sneak up on her wiggle your dick in her ear, when she feels this nice sensation she normally freaks out and screams like a lunatic. after this happens i shove my weiner in her face, after this happens i usally get a restraining order, this is when i go for the move. i sneak into her house and go to town.
Fatal623 3 years ago
Btw...I do understand you somewhat. When I was your age and just started in a relationship, I was insecure and jealous too. Don't worry, you'll get over it.
ducatione 3 years ago
"If their happiness (and that of others) relies on being with different people, then marriage is a meaningless gesture."
wow. Me and my other half are swingers. we have so much fun being in the lifestyle. saying that we shouldn't get married bc we like to play with others too is stupid. we are perfect for eachother, were best friends, we just happen to think its fun to get with a group of others friend who feel the same way, get naked, and do what we want! It doesn't mean we don't do it.
PamPam719 3 years ago
PamPam719, in fairness I wouldn't go as far as saying they're stupid.
What you're is not an easy "just do it" thing.
It has numerous advantages as well as disadvantages & could go wrong in a number of areas.
I know what you mean by being "best friends" which I think is more important & comes before being married, but it takes a lot of neutral & careful decision making & mental adaptation for many to decide to get in or conclude that they fit in this lifestyle.
Have fun & play safe
hpugwashee 3 years ago
simply put, if you are so against the swinging lifestyle why are you here looking up info on it. I hate football thats why i never watch or look it up on the internet
toohip12000 3 years ago
you hate football????? why lol
brian4480 3 years ago
hi ,
im known as casual throughout the swingers network,i was a virgin before i got into the swingers scene,everyone made me feel so comfortable and ive had many encounters with all nationalties of various shapes and sizes but being 18 i find it hard to keep up with the expense of swinging regular every other day,thus this has drove me into gambling in order to win funds,just so i can go swinging..is this normal...casual!
siboss 3 years ago
siboss, sounds like you have addictive problems.
glad122912 3 years ago
Talk, talk, talk, talk..
Pfth!
I wouldn't want to make my future husband as a gay.
For me, I'll do the talking.
Enough!
And if he even dares to raise a topic about watching me fucking another guy, I swear I will break all his teeth.
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vaadim 3 years ago
I can't imagine my girl having sex with some other guy... That would really kill my self esteem, and thats why im never gonna cheat on my girl. Ever.
waseok 3 years ago 4
Then you and your girl are not candidates for swinging. Simple. Enjoy each other. Just don't equate swinging with cheating, they are two completely different things.
deb1919 2 years ago 3
My comment was written 1 year ago, my opinion about swinging didnt change, i just dont think, its cheating, anymore.
waseok 2 years ago
@waseok So cool that you came back and shared that update with us, thank you.
Have an awesome day!
-- Dan & Jennifer
DanAndJenn 2 years ago
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cerealnik 3 years ago
the necklace? O.O it is a nice necklace I geuss...
mettalicmass 3 years ago
mmmmmmmm i dont think this swinging shit is healthy for a relationship...its like lending a motorcycle...but 100 times worst i would suffer every second seeing MY girl with another guy having a good time.... even if im offered the other girl i think i wouldnt do it... and im not any kind of religiousm catholic or purist shit...im just not into that swinging shit i think it could make a relationship wreck in one minute..
xeriotti 3 years ago
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What is the difference between soft and full swap?
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nico3641 3 years ago 4
Different people use different terms... but "soft swap" usually means touching, kissing, etc. of the other person's partner - anything ASIDE FROM penetration.
Full swap thus usually means "penetration too".
Another term you'll often hear "same room only", meaning any interaction with the other person's spouse (and vice versa) requires everyone to be in the same room.
It's SO important to make these rules ahead of time with your partner, but realize they'll change over time. Talk. Talk. Talk.
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
Communication is big thing.
anjamerret 3 years ago 2
Why are half the videos you do about swinging?
Bobzeaux 3 years ago 2
Because half the questions we get are about swinging :-). Closely followed by... Yes, you guessed it - anal and oral sex. LOL
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
Are people REALLY that discontent with having sex with only ONE person at a time?
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
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SORRY! Bobzeaux: I don't knoiw where you sexual history came from but their are a lot of persons in swinging including Christians. Put Christians Swinging into your search engine and see what comes up!
polym3 3 years ago
Christian or not, why can't people be happy with having sex with their chosen partner and their chosen partner alone?
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Answer is simple Bobzeaux: Boredom. Even if you get creative with your spouse, you can't come here and tell me that you have never wished you could do that gorgeos other next to you at the restarant: pure BS. I believe men (as much as they may deny it) will always want to do it with as many girls as possible because that's our animal nature. Some choose to let the rational man win and repress the urge, others acknolwledge the need, assess the risks and enjoy themselves aware of the implications.
youtooobie 3 years ago
Boys and girls are wired completely differently. Most boys don't see a moral issue in screwing around even if there are no feelings towards the girl in turn. Sex for boys can be only that. Girls tend to live sex as part of an amotional experience (there are some sluty ones who will screw your brains out for the sheer pleasure of it even if they love you as much as one of their door knobs) That's an important point when swinging. Watch out guys! your girl might be needing affection, not more sex.
youtooobie 3 years ago
My point is: Boys want more sex all the time and their feelings may lay perfectly safe aside because this is a nice game to play. But how about this girl who's (probably been) led into swinging by her man, and she's accepted, maybe subconsciously (and naively) anticipating relief to some unaddressed emotional issues? Swinging must be pure sex for emotionally fit & strong individuals, it won't fix anything broken and may tear up an already weak relation. Assess pros and cons responsibly B4U do it
youtooobie 3 years ago
Actually I CAN tell you that I've never wished I could do that gorgeous other next to me. Sorry.
(On the topic of having sex with as many people as possible, why do men feel that urge more than women? Speaking from a strictly biological standpoint, women should want to have more sex with as many men as possible since they've only got a finite number of eggs, they ovulate only 12 times a year, and the uterus is an acidic deathtrap for sperm. They should want it a LOT more than men. :S)
Bobzeaux 3 years ago 2
You're probably one of those very few men who will be happy living a monogamous life (or so you say)... congratulations on that!... but why is it easy FOR ME to understand and accept that... and so difficult FOR YOU to understand and accept that others might prefer a more varied experience in their lives? Could it possibly be that you're trying to force your own moral choices on others?
youtooobie 3 years ago
Because people who want "varied experience" are only going to end up hurting each other. Why has everyone on this planet forgotten that sleeping around with as many people as humanly possible hurts not only those around you, but you yourself? These people think they're happy playing the field, but years from now they realize that they've wasted their lives and now want something deeper and more meaningful, only to realize that they have no idea how to get it.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Well, well, you're probably right (no sarchasm) but then again, why does it bother you that people make other choices? I think you should mind your own business and if you don't approve or don't like what you see, you can always look somewhere else. People in this world need to start looking inside, not outside. Look at how much international embarrassment Bush has brought to the US for not learning this on time. I agree with you, though, some people might get badly hurt but u can't generalize.
youtooobie 3 years ago
This is an advice video. Someone asks how to ease into swinging, and my natural response is "do you HAVE to swing? Obviously you're uncomfortable with it, so why do it?" If Dan & Jenn didn't want feedback and opinions from other viewers, they wouldn't make these videos public.
(Does EVERYONE have to associate Bush with all evil/unhappiness in the world? Once he's out, whoever takes his place is only going to try to fix what he did to become the world's savior. It's nothing to worry about.)
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
That's right, it's advice. Adults may want to follow or leave it, but it remains their own choice and we have little to say about it, save for a few words of caution. I was neither promoting nor condemning it, I was commenting on why some poeple (probably even myself at one point) would want to try this out. I've thought about it with another girl and my wife but I don't know how much I could stand the view of another man AND my wife, so, I play it safe and shut up unless ready to take AND give.
youtooobie 3 years ago
Oh, and you're still 23, probably just married or enjoying this super-hot, let's-do-it-in-just-about-every-corner-of-the-house sex life all of us "pushing-forties" lived as well once...
How bored can you be when you just got back from your honeymoon or when you can get sex with a different partner everytime you get a chance because you're not fully commited to a single person for life yet?... See?
Your angle is quite different from mine or someone who's been married for more than 15 years
youtooobie 3 years ago
Actually I'm still single (and never even had a gf), and I'm getting this unfortunate feeling that it's because I, unlike a LOT men I've seen in my immediate universe, actually have a strong sense of morality.
If you've been married for more than 15 years and your spouse bores you that much, then I'm sorry, but you've made a mistake somewhere in life. With VERY few exceptions, every married couple I know is happily so and wouldn't want anyone else if they had the chance to swing or cheat.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
I disagree with you here, someone who hasn't had a girlfriend at 23 is not someone I would be looking up to for advice on human relationships, no disrespect. If you have chosen to be single AND NOT have a girlfriend, good for you! but if you're not happy (that "unfortunate feeling") then something needs to be done.
Your logic is a bit off, though, if I am an advocate of gay rights, for example, that doesn't make me automatically gay, same for swinging and my supporting it or condemning it.
youtooobie 3 years ago
"someone who hasn't had a girlfriend at 23 is not someone I would be looking up to for advice on human relationships"
Many people (including dating experts) would tell you that what I have to say makes a lot of sense, despite my completely illogical lack of experience.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Or so you say... did anyone ever tell you that when making claims like "many people" and "experts in the field of..." you have to provide N
youtooobie 3 years ago
sorry, posted last comment before I ended. When you make statements like "many people", "experts in the field of...", you MUST provide NAMES, NUMBERS or other VERIFIABLE references. Your claims are empty unless I see some experts here supporting your view that someone who hasn't had a girlfriend at 23 is, indeed, a good source of information regarding relationships, dating AND SWINGING. If you haven't had a girlfriend how can you even begin to fathom the complexity of concepts like swinging?
youtooobie 3 years ago
What, now you've got to have sworn testimony from EVERY person I've spoken to? They agree with me because what I say is based on common sense and critical thinking. You don't need experience to know how to extrapolate.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Seriously now, I don't mean to disrespect you, but the more you type, the easier it is to make me look like I'm attacking you and I'm not, this started because you questioned those who may want to try out swinging and I still believe that they have every right to do it wether you like it or not. I'm neither in favor nor against it, I say some experiences in life shouldn't be missed and this might just be one of them but everyone has a mind of their own: Make your chioces, let others do the same.
youtooobie 3 years ago
If you're neither in favor of it or against it, then why did you even challenge my original claim in the first place? Would you have reacted differently if I was all for it?
The right is theirs and they're perfectly welcome to it. That doesn't make it any less of a bad idea.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
hey cracker....did you ever stop to think that maybe most of the couples that you know that are happily married are like that because they swing. You would never know and they would never tell you if they did. So get off your high horse and go get a job. When you grow up and learn a bit about life, come back and comment on this .
ducatione 3 years ago
No, they don't swing. If their happiness (and that of others) relies on being with different people, then marriage is a meaningless gesture.
If you're going to insult me, can't you at least come up with something more creative and grounded in reality than "get a job"?
(Cracker? Ugh...)
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
yeah...i'm sure your the first person they would tell.
ducatione 3 years ago
I'm sorry if your "relationships" can only work if you're sleeping around, but there ARE people who know how to be happy with what they have.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Actually, our "relationship" works just fine without swinging. We were together for 20 years before trying. We can take or leave it and it won't affect the way we feel about each other. People like you make sex the link that ties the couple together. If that link is broken the relationship dies. How sad is that! Love and emotions have nothing to do with it.
ducatione 3 years ago
We save that for ouselves. I find younger people that have no clue about love and life are the ones that are the most judgmental. Get into a relationship ..not just a dumb puppylove thing. Be married for 20 years, have kids, go through all the stress that married people with kids go through and then comment. Until then you really have no clue.
ducatione 3 years ago
"Until then you really have no clue."
What kind of a clue do YOU have? You're the one suggesting that the marriages of my peers only continue because of mutual infidelity (which you yourself don't need, so why bother pushing that point?).
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
"our "relationship" works just fine without swinging."
Ok then. So how are my negative thoughts on swinging wrong then? If you didn't need it, why should anyone?
"People like you make sex the link that ties the couple together."
How'd you reach that conclusion?
"Love and emotions have nothing to do with it."
So sex isn't the link that keeps couples together, but neither are love or other emotions? What IS it then?
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
bob if u dont like it then dont do it get off there fucking backs jeez i would not swing ether but im not going to judge anyone stop putting your views on others
brian4480 3 years ago
They got on MY back first.
If someone is seeking advice about a particular subject and I can answer it, I'm going to do it whether it's the popular answer or not.
Sorry for not saying "if it feels good, do it!" like everyone else in here.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
i dont think swingers are seeking the advice from a "jesus" so keep your views to yourself and BTW ive looked at your post on this vid...they go back like 6 months???? wtf dude u seam very into others choices. Maybe you should be a TV vangelite they like to be in others biz too and a added perk dumb ass people will send you money:D look into it, just dont end up sucking a hookers dick for meth
brian4480 3 years ago
"keep your views to yourself"
But it's okay for you to impose YOUR views on others?
"they go back like 6 months????"
...Yes? So what? In a perfect world, people would be tolerant enough of differing ideas to just leave it alone. I can't help it that people like challenging what I have to say.
"just dont end up sucking a hookers dick for meth"
You and everyone else, I swear... If you're going to insult someone, can't you at least come up with an insult that actually MEANS something?
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
look dullard just cuz UUUUU dont get the insults does not mean they dont mean anything..i was making a comment about ted haggard..ya know the leader of your fake religon..ya he sucks dick for meth..as for me imposing my views>>WTF i just said i would not swing so my view is its not right for me..how is that imposing my ideas on others?? jeez bill O..thats rich u tell me to be tolerant of differnt ideas yet you have been bashing these people for the last 6 months????......good luck on faux news
brian4480 3 years ago
What fake religion did I say I belonged to? Ted Haggard has nothing to do with what we're talking about here.
"get off there fucking backs"
What's the difference between me saying someone shouldn't do something, and you telling me that I shouldn't be doing something? If I'm imposing my beliefs on others, so are you.
"u tell me to be tolerant of differnt ideas yet you have been bashing these people for the last 6 months?"
Read it again, genius. They were ripping on me first.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
"but im not going to judge anyone"
You're doing a fine job of doing that so far...
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
oh good one.. look just cuz u type it does not mean its a fact ...as for my insult, ted haggard has nothing to do with swinging yes but i used his stupid ass to insult u...u did not get it at first IE your message 22 hours ago (3 back from this one) so i had to explain it to you . the point is im disagreeing with YOUR point of view not anyone elses so it is totally diffent then U whining about "swingings the devil and your marrage means nothing" BTW its not hard to tell your a wacko christian
brian4480 3 years ago
"just cuz u type it does not mean its a fact"
But whatever YOU type IS fact, I suppose? ;P
You're "insult" is nonsense. What are you trying to convey?
"im disagreeing with YOUR point of view not anyone elses"
You're dodging my question; how is my disagreement to one point of view so horrible, but yours is perfectly fine?
"Wacko christian"? Yeah, THAT'S not judgemental at all. Anyway, Christianity is not fake or lead by Ted Haggard. The least you can do is get your facts straight.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
again, im sorry u cant get what im saying... go back to school
hey kid, are you fuckng retarded?? MY point of view is i would not swing so?.....you ether cant understand that comment or your a tool
I am judging YOU not a lifestyle and please dont put the word "fact" and christianity in the same paragraph it makes u look dumb. BTW yes, ted haggard was the leader of the evangelic church but then he got caught with a dick in his mouth (wa wa wa wa waaaa)so anything else I can "enlighten" u on
brian4480 3 years ago
"MY point of view is i would not swing so?"
Exactly. So why even challenge what I was saying if you're AGREEING with me? :S
"I am judging YOU"
Which is different how?
"dont put the word "fact" and christianity in the same paragraph it makes u look dumb."
So by your own definition, everything YOU'VE claimed as fact about Christianity makes you look dumb.
Here's something you can enlighten me on; have you ever heard of the word "coherent"? If not, looking it up might do you some good.
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
And if you want to hang onto your claim that you're not judging lifestyles, you might want to stay away from phrases like "wacko christian".
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
did i say all christians are wacko??? nooooo! some are(you being one of them), look its not my fault your girl bangs other men so dont take it out on me or anyone else.. This back and forth is pointless cuz the point of the vid is if u want to swing, then swing. They dont give a shit what u think so fuck off.
brian4480 3 years ago
"did i say all christians are wacko??? nooooo!"
Then why call attention to it? Why not just say something less incriminating like "you're wacko" or something?
"its not my fault your girl bangs other men so dont take it out on me or anyone else"
She doesn't, so there's nothing for me to take out on anyone. ;P Sorry to blow that other "fact" of yours out of the water.
"They dont give a shit what u think"
Is that why you and everyone else keep responding to what I'm saying? *lol*
Bobzeaux 3 years ago
Good idea to set those ground rules and make them unbreakable. Especially in the heat of the moment, a swinging situation could go sour pretty quickly if something goes wrong.
aaronmp2003 3 years ago 2
she is f'ing lucky to be able to talk about stuff arm in arm with a HOT HOTT HOTTT man. he is one in a thousand.
arequipa1 3 years ago
We've been in the lifestyle for about ten years, and can't agree with your suggestions more. PRIMARILY, you have to have a SOLID relationship. None of this "I'm more into than he/she is... but they'll come around eventually". That's simply a recipe for jealousy and drama. Keep up the good work Dan and Jenn. If you're ever in the So Cal area, look us up.
D&D
daveinoc 3 years ago
Though some may judge "swinging" and call the lifestyle and those in it unkind names. I believe it is a more enlightened lifestyle. And I think the people in it are more advanced humans.
wolfinside 3 years ago 2
I've usually found that the loudest and most judgmental people tend to have the most creative stuff to hide, and the least to "say".
Being judgmental of others is not exactly something to be proud of, but to each his own. Like Jennifer said below, our goal is to spread the "acceptance of others" idea with the world!
As long as you're not harming a person/animal/etc. - who cares - and who has the moral right - to say what consenting adults can do in the privacy of their bedrooms?
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
"I believe it is a more enlightened lifestyle. And I think the people in it are more advanced humans."
Great point, we feel the same way. So much of our society glorifies relationships based on fear, jealousy, and ownership. The ability to transcend this jealousy epidemic is enlightened indeed.
As we evolve more intellectually and spiritually as a race, we'll hopefully see much less judgmental attitudes, less violence, less jealousy - replaced by more love and acceptance for your fellow man.
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
"I believe it is a more enlightened lifestyle. And I think the people in it are more advanced humans."
I also feel the same way. My wife and I have discussed swinging and we will probably never try it. The kind of people involved in the lifestyle just seem so much more rational than most though and that makes me wish that I knew more of their sort. The kind of people is more of a draw than the actual sexual behaviour they practice in fact. They are much less jealous, insecure and judgmental.
yellapedals 3 years ago 2
Heh, is this the "civilization and freedom" USia wants to share with the world ? Freedom of promiscuity ? Bleh, no thanks, keep your vices to yourself please, barbarians.
karry299 3 years ago
'love thy neighbor'
dacherx 3 years ago 2
Our goal is to spread the "acceptance of others" idea with the world! Maybe that way we'll all stop blowing each other up...
DanAndJenn 3 years ago
20% of the people in your country, Zimbabwe, are infected with HIV. Did they acquire it from sharing towels?
thanrose 3 years ago 2
Everybody, ignore Karry299. Surprised to say that this isnt the first time I've seen him commenting on a video. Every word out of his mouth is anti-American drivel. So just ignore him.
KevinQ 3 years ago
This doesn't just go on in the USA It goes on everywhere. At least "some" of us are educating people on how to do it the safe way. What's it to you anyways what other people do in privacy and agreed upon mutually between each other. Are they hurting you? Why are you even on here if you don't like it stop looking. Go play in your own sandbox. we like ours just the way it is. With lots of people in it.
papillonbl 2 years ago 3
you guys definitely