Robert has given a lot to cycling and how many Scots came closer to great rewards, in the past very few and less now. His spirit as a grand tour rider is an example to follow.
Roberto ha dato molto al ciclismo e quante scozzese arrivò più vicino a grandi premi, pochi in passato e ora di meno. Il suo spirito come un corridore nei grandi giri a tappa è un esempio da seguire.
Great footage of some classic riders. It reminds me of my own cycling days. Used to regularly tape every tour, unfortunately didnt keep the tapes. Thanks for the footage.
Drew, try and find one person in the professional cycling world who has proof or reason to believe Lemond took anything during his career and then we can move on to asking Greg to then prove himself. You may find yourself searching in vain for a very long time, unlike another certain American Tour winner who famously doesn't get along with Lemond,.
Greg LeMond's average speed in the time trial, 54.545 km/h, was the fastest in Tour de France stage history; since then, only the 1994 prologue has been faster.[1
On a boat anchor with aero bars? What proof does he have that he was clean? Many others were doping at this time. Testing was very easy to beat back then.
Clearly he could have been using performance enhancing substances. Greg should be asked to prove that he did not dope during his three tours.
Would the person who posted this kindly post a longer segement - I remember shouting Millar on 20 years ago in Co. Kildare.. and then seeing him in the Nissan Classic.
(I deleted because it haven´t appeared the "commas)
Here you have that Vuelta´85stage. The only unusual thing is that 9 riders can´t recover time to only 2. But this 2 work very well and the other 9 don´t. Anyway nobody prevents Millar from moving the pedals. The comentators explain that Millar didn´t give importance to the escape because Delgado was very far in the classification. So I think Millar should complain only about himself
2-..for the stage in exchange of the help for the overall class. After the stage Mottet was 3rd, 57 after Fignon; Delgado 4th +2:53; and Millar 8th +6:42. Delgado here is not fighting for the stage, in the last meters he keep the wheel and keep his word, that allways did. (Question: what told Millar about Vuelta´85? Its the 2nd time I read here someone talks about "cheat", Delgado risk downhill in the fog and Millar didn´t follow him. That was all that happened. Delgado was brave, not cheat)
1-Thanks (again) for the video, Matteo. But there´s an error: this isn´t a battle at all. Delgado had lost 7´ the first 2 days of that Tour and he was determinated to recover that time. He makes second in the first ITT, 24 after Lemond. He took another 29 in the first pirynees stage, and this was the second one. Delgado is fighting for the overall classification and the agreement with Millar and Mottet, that couldn´t follow them to the end, was that both Delgado and Mottet won´t fight...
He was considered cheating because the team cars reported Millar punctured at the bottom of the hill. The unofficial rule in cycling is you don't attack when a rival crashes or puntures. They took an advantage of confusion where Millar didn't know that Delgado was in a break and gaining time. Ride fair and take your opponent on face to face not by trickery, there is no skill in that.
I know that Delgado was going for time rather than the stage. They were both battling, Delgado for time, Millar for the stage. Delgado was going so hard that it was still very difficult for Millar to win. Millar had been on the attack, in the front, since the start of the stage amd was very tired. He was dropped in the last 2km but came back to win. As for the 85 Vuelta, Delgado didn't cheat, but the Spanish teams and directors did by all ganging up to ensure that a gringo didn't win.
Robert Millar is a British sporting legend ...so can expect a serious BBC Sport "documentary" "soon" (I've only been waiting 25 years)...... aye right! they'd prob do a Cliff Richard contribution to British tennis first.
Well, yea you had Robert Millar, and now you have David Millar. Are they related? David Millar sure has been quiet lately. He was red hot before he was found guilty of blood doping.
Robert Millar was an inspiration to me. The way he could accelerate up mountains was incredible. He finished fourth in one Tour de France. It has to be the toughest sporting event on the planet. Its a disgrace why Millar has never received an MBE as he is Britains greatest cyclist.
si, pensar que Pereiro o Contador ya han conseguido lo que tanto le costo a Perico es para echarse a llorar, el ciclismo ha sido injusto con Pedro en el Tour, tanto como generoso en la vuelta.
I remember that this wonderful stage saw Millar going over the 3 previuos Cols first(Tourmalet,Aspin,Peyresourd)prior to the final ascent-which saw him claw back twice to an angered Perico who threw a water bottle at a spectator who shouted in his ear at the bottom of the climb,and stamped away from Millar & Mottet.This was a truely remarkable stage in the way that Millar dug deeper than his previuos stage wins (83, 84)for his truely best ever TDF stage win.
Despite what has been written about him in the press (and let's face it what he does with his life is up to him) he will always be one of my heroes. Inspired me to pick up a bike and for that I will always be thankful.
Robert Millar was/is my hero. Just rode up Superbagneres on my 50th birthday remembering his epic victory over Delgado all the way up. Wherever you are Robert, thanks for the inspiration
Genius. Thanks for posting this. Great rider who never had the recognition he deserved and more than his fair share of bad luck, remember the stage where he went/was sent (delete as appropriate) the wrong way and lost it to Massimo Ghirotto, who would never have won had Millar been alongside and when he was 'stitched up' whilst leading the Tour of Spain.
magic Matt. I remember Robert winning the Kellogs tour that year, saw him fly past Kelly and Earley on the Tumble on the big ring and took 12mts on the field to put the win out of reach. If you've got that please post it.
Even worse was the so called Scotsport review of the year on STV that year. He wasn't even mentioned, never mind a feature on him. It seems that football and racing pigeons are more important in Scotland. I wrote to Dixon Blackstock of the (Scottish) Sunday Mail to protest about this, our national pre-occupation with a mediocre football team, when we had a Scot who was genuinely 'world class' at his sport who was deserving of more attention. I never had the courtesy of a reply.
The problem is that football dominates the sports media in Scotland. Robert Millar could have won the TDF and he still wouldn't have been appreciated. However, this is no different to any other Scottish sportman who is not a footballer.
@strummerino There's obviously a sizeable majority that can't see past Celtic and Rangers, but sweeping generalisations and blanket statements like yours don't reflect the truth of the admiration and even love that many Scots hold for all different kinds of Scots athletes.
Robert Millar - The Flying Scotsman, never forgotten back in Scotland. Hope he's doing well and is in a good place mentally.
solefthanded2 9 months ago 3
Robert has given a lot to cycling and how many Scots came closer to great rewards, in the past very few and less now. His spirit as a grand tour rider is an example to follow.
Roberto ha dato molto al ciclismo e quante scozzese arrivò più vicino a grandi premi, pochi in passato e ora di meno. Il suo spirito come un corridore nei grandi giri a tappa è un esempio da seguire.
Eadailteach 1 year ago
I love Fignon
WARaxlyerin 1 year ago
i love vhs .
cherikandler 1 year ago
Robert millar what a great climber i miss those days
robbbie67 1 year ago
I remember those Z jerseys, they were cool
tjmacjee 1 year ago
Great footage of some classic riders. It reminds me of my own cycling days. Used to regularly tape every tour, unfortunately didnt keep the tapes. Thanks for the footage.
bobgrantsbus 1 year ago
videocassettes sucks
rowenj 1 year ago
@rowenj Well there weren't many dvds around in 1989!
Matteomjb 1 year ago 2
is his son david millar?
dingoken 1 year ago
@dingoken No, they are not related.
Matteomjb 1 year ago
@Matteomjb
OK thx
dingoken 1 year ago
Drew, try and find one person in the professional cycling world who has proof or reason to believe Lemond took anything during his career and then we can move on to asking Greg to then prove himself. You may find yourself searching in vain for a very long time, unlike another certain American Tour winner who famously doesn't get along with Lemond,.
EMC2Scotia 2 years ago
Greg LeMond's average speed in the time trial, 54.545 km/h, was the fastest in Tour de France stage history; since then, only the 1994 prologue has been faster.[1
On a boat anchor with aero bars? What proof does he have that he was clean? Many others were doping at this time. Testing was very easy to beat back then.
Clearly he could have been using performance enhancing substances. Greg should be asked to prove that he did not dope during his three tours.
drewp66 2 years ago
Would the person who posted this kindly post a longer segement - I remember shouting Millar on 20 years ago in Co. Kildare.. and then seeing him in the Nissan Classic.
A truly great rider.
TheIrish39 2 years ago
@TheIrish39 dood!!! I was also there 20 years ago in Kildare....been that I'm from newbridge town. great days of cycling.
ah4fecksake 2 months ago
they look like they are pushing really heavy gears somehow
sprintbass 2 years ago
I TOTALLY AGREE. WITHOUT RADIO.
lingopresley 2 years ago
In my opinion, while the 1989 Tour is the greatest of all-time - this stage is one of the most underrated. What drama in the race!
wac01a 2 years ago 2
@wac01a yes for sure
Rayz1000 2 years ago
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(I deleted because it haven´t appeared the "commas)
Here you have that Vuelta´85stage. The only unusual thing is that 9 riders can´t recover time to only 2. But this 2 work very well and the other 9 don´t. Anyway nobody prevents Millar from moving the pedals. The comentators explain that Millar didn´t give importance to the escape because Delgado was very far in the classification. So I think Millar should complain only about himself
(tags: dalealplay perico vuelta 85 Recio)
ermigue 2 years ago
2-..for the stage in exchange of the help for the overall class. After the stage Mottet was 3rd, 57 after Fignon; Delgado 4th +2:53; and Millar 8th +6:42. Delgado here is not fighting for the stage, in the last meters he keep the wheel and keep his word, that allways did. (Question: what told Millar about Vuelta´85? Its the 2nd time I read here someone talks about "cheat", Delgado risk downhill in the fog and Millar didn´t follow him. That was all that happened. Delgado was brave, not cheat)
ermigue 2 years ago
1-Thanks (again) for the video, Matteo. But there´s an error: this isn´t a battle at all. Delgado had lost 7´ the first 2 days of that Tour and he was determinated to recover that time. He makes second in the first ITT, 24 after Lemond. He took another 29 in the first pirynees stage, and this was the second one. Delgado is fighting for the overall classification and the agreement with Millar and Mottet, that couldn´t follow them to the end, was that both Delgado and Mottet won´t fight...
ermigue 2 years ago
He was considered cheating because the team cars reported Millar punctured at the bottom of the hill. The unofficial rule in cycling is you don't attack when a rival crashes or puntures. They took an advantage of confusion where Millar didn't know that Delgado was in a break and gaining time. Ride fair and take your opponent on face to face not by trickery, there is no skill in that.
taita999 2 years ago
I know that Delgado was going for time rather than the stage. They were both battling, Delgado for time, Millar for the stage. Delgado was going so hard that it was still very difficult for Millar to win. Millar had been on the attack, in the front, since the start of the stage amd was very tired. He was dropped in the last 2km but came back to win. As for the 85 Vuelta, Delgado didn't cheat, but the Spanish teams and directors did by all ganging up to ensure that a gringo didn't win.
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Robert Millar is a British sporting legend ...so can expect a serious BBC Sport "documentary" "soon" (I've only been waiting 25 years)...... aye right! they'd prob do a Cliff Richard contribution to British tennis first.
sammymfc1 2 years ago
A small amount of revenge for the stolen vuelta in 85. Loved Delgado, but what a cheat!
davyroo1875 2 years ago
And the 86 Vuelta - Alvaro Pino
taita999 2 years ago
Well, yea you had Robert Millar, and now you have David Millar. Are they related? David Millar sure has been quiet lately. He was red hot before he was found guilty of blood doping.
rmrooster01 2 years ago
No they are not related. David Millar was showing good form in the Dauphine last week. Watch him go in the Tour.
Matteomjb 2 years ago
GREAT STAGE!
lingopresley 3 years ago
Actually that should be an OBE.
Darrenov 3 years ago
Robert Millar was an inspiration to me. The way he could accelerate up mountains was incredible. He finished fourth in one Tour de France. It has to be the toughest sporting event on the planet. Its a disgrace why Millar has never received an MBE as he is Britains greatest cyclist.
Darrenov 3 years ago 12
@Darrenov In the 1984 Sports personality of the year (BBC) awards He was not even mentioned...a total disgrace
WELLBRAN 1 year ago
si, pensar que Pereiro o Contador ya han conseguido lo que tanto le costo a Perico es para echarse a llorar, el ciclismo ha sido injusto con Pedro en el Tour, tanto como generoso en la vuelta.
TezukaChannel 4 years ago 2
Perico se merecio ganar mas tours, levanto el ciclismo español, fue y sera el mejor ciclista no por los titulos si no por su forma de pedalear
perryscs 4 years ago
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PerignonPop 4 years ago
Kewlios
lesmcluffalot 4 years ago
shame that nobody carried in the UK what Millar,Roche,Kelly and others left of in cyling...
hfer 4 years ago
I remember that this wonderful stage saw Millar going over the 3 previuos Cols first(Tourmalet,Aspin,Peyresourd)prior to the final ascent-which saw him claw back twice to an angered Perico who threw a water bottle at a spectator who shouted in his ear at the bottom of the climb,and stamped away from Millar & Mottet.This was a truely remarkable stage in the way that Millar dug deeper than his previuos stage wins (83, 84)for his truely best ever TDF stage win.
DTC71 4 years ago 3
Robert Millar- what a rider!
Despite what has been written about him in the press (and let's face it what he does with his life is up to him) he will always be one of my heroes. Inspired me to pick up a bike and for that I will always be thankful.
supcoop1 4 years ago 17
memorable perico, lo unico que hizo millar fue chupar rueda. Perico se mereció la etapa y el tour. Otro de los tours que perico debió ganar.
gabeoria 4 years ago
Fantastic rider. And that's coming from an Englishman!
Where is he now?
markrskinner 4 years ago
Robert Millar was/is my hero. Just rode up Superbagneres on my 50th birthday remembering his epic victory over Delgado all the way up. Wherever you are Robert, thanks for the inspiration
Adrianhenryheywood 4 years ago
Brilliant athlete.
WhiteyRFC 4 years ago
Fantástico Pericoo!!!!
Isragadom 4 years ago
Formidable Rob. You influenced thousands. I hope your content where ever you are.
MontagueBurton 4 years ago
Millar was a true great. Thanks for posting this. Probably the best scot athelete ever, and sad he did not get the recognition he really did deserve.
Thanks for posting
rextanka 4 years ago
Fabulous!
qwerty7788 4 years ago
Genius. Thanks for posting this. Great rider who never had the recognition he deserved and more than his fair share of bad luck, remember the stage where he went/was sent (delete as appropriate) the wrong way and lost it to Massimo Ghirotto, who would never have won had Millar been alongside and when he was 'stitched up' whilst leading the Tour of Spain.
BillKenn 4 years ago
its a great video this thnx for posting it!!, robert millar fantastic rider
agrfan 4 years ago
Millar was the true climber here, he should've be puttin' the pressure on perico.
mambobici 5 years ago
Millar had been away for the whole stage and had lead all the way up the 3 previous climbs!
Matteomjb 5 years ago
What an awesome Tour '89 was! Thanks for posting this bit of classic cycling history.
blowhard2006 5 years ago
magic Matt. I remember Robert winning the Kellogs tour that year, saw him fly past Kelly and Earley on the Tumble on the big ring and took 12mts on the field to put the win out of reach. If you've got that please post it.
johnypebs 5 years ago
Millar was a tremendous rider, and i don't think ever got the credit he deserved from the British sporting public.
JACM10 5 years ago
VERY TRUE!! 1984 sports personality of the year he did not even get a mention...mind you it was BBC!
WELLBRAN 5 years ago
Even worse was the so called Scotsport review of the year on STV that year. He wasn't even mentioned, never mind a feature on him. It seems that football and racing pigeons are more important in Scotland. I wrote to Dixon Blackstock of the (Scottish) Sunday Mail to protest about this, our national pre-occupation with a mediocre football team, when we had a Scot who was genuinely 'world class' at his sport who was deserving of more attention. I never had the courtesy of a reply.
johnypebs 5 years ago
You are so right mate, Scottish people appreciate fuck all about true sportsmen.
strummerino 4 years ago
The problem is that football dominates the sports media in Scotland. Robert Millar could have won the TDF and he still wouldn't have been appreciated. However, this is no different to any other Scottish sportman who is not a footballer.
punkey68 4 years ago
@strummerino There's obviously a sizeable majority that can't see past Celtic and Rangers, but sweeping generalisations and blanket statements like yours don't reflect the truth of the admiration and even love that many Scots hold for all different kinds of Scots athletes.
PerignonPop 1 year ago