You may also choose to not eat undegestible matter at all and then deal with constipation and diverticulitis when the bowel is trying desperately to move tiny amounts of matter until it creates stressed walls that balloon out. Even strict carnivores in the animal kingdom eat fiber in the form of some fur, bone, and gastric content of the prey...my cats often love to eat plant material to assist in their digestion...and they are pure carnivores...
@lironess - You wrote: "You may also choose to not eat undegestible matter at all and then deal with constipation and diverticulitis" I have been eating predominantly meat - fatty meat - for a couple of years. I might eat up to 125g of berries, broccoli etc some days. I have noticed that I need to clear my colon every couple of days, but the process itself is no more like constipation than what it was in the 2000s (palaeo with salad) or 1973-2000 (vegetarian whole grain). NO constipation.
Also the bowel does more that extract nutrients and water....our bodies deposit toxins into the matter in the lower intestine to be passed out of the body...if you have no matter in the intestines were are the toxins going to go? We can only pass so much through the skin and the urine...so think of the "fiber" as a broom sweeping everything out and then being used to collect the waste materials in clumps large enough to be moved by muscle contractions..
My understanding is that the undigestable "fiber" serves two purposes in our intestines....one is to rub against the sides to help the matter in there to move along...the other is to add bulk to the matter to assist in passing this matter...theoretically we could get all of the nutrients we need in pill form but so far this has not been successful because our bodies are designed to process actual food not pills...if you try to just take pills the intestines can not pass the waste.
@lironess You wrote: "the undigestable "fiber" serves two purposes in our intestines....one is to rub against the sides to help the matter in there to move along ..." That's your way of looking at it. My way is to regard the fibre as like broken glass, scraping the sides of the colon and injuring it day in, day out and so leading to cancer.
But, isn't it the case that bowel bacteria ferment and break down fibre? And that these bacteria also produce useful amounts of vitamin K, biotin and folate?
You may also choose to not eat undegestible matter at all and then deal with constipation and diverticulitis when the bowel is trying desperately to move tiny amounts of matter until it creates stressed walls that balloon out. Even strict carnivores in the animal kingdom eat fiber in the form of some fur, bone, and gastric content of the prey...my cats often love to eat plant material to assist in their digestion...and they are pure carnivores...
lironess 1 month ago
@lironess - You wrote: "You may also choose to not eat undegestible matter at all and then deal with constipation and diverticulitis" I have been eating predominantly meat - fatty meat - for a couple of years. I might eat up to 125g of berries, broccoli etc some days. I have noticed that I need to clear my colon every couple of days, but the process itself is no more like constipation than what it was in the 2000s (palaeo with salad) or 1973-2000 (vegetarian whole grain). NO constipation.
Myrmecia 1 month ago
Also the bowel does more that extract nutrients and water....our bodies deposit toxins into the matter in the lower intestine to be passed out of the body...if you have no matter in the intestines were are the toxins going to go? We can only pass so much through the skin and the urine...so think of the "fiber" as a broom sweeping everything out and then being used to collect the waste materials in clumps large enough to be moved by muscle contractions..
lironess 1 month ago
My understanding is that the undigestable "fiber" serves two purposes in our intestines....one is to rub against the sides to help the matter in there to move along...the other is to add bulk to the matter to assist in passing this matter...theoretically we could get all of the nutrients we need in pill form but so far this has not been successful because our bodies are designed to process actual food not pills...if you try to just take pills the intestines can not pass the waste.
lironess 1 month ago
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@lironess You wrote: "the undigestable "fiber" serves two purposes in our intestines....one is to rub against the sides to help the matter in there to move along ..." That's your way of looking at it. My way is to regard the fibre as like broken glass, scraping the sides of the colon and injuring it day in, day out and so leading to cancer.
Myrmecia 1 month ago
But, isn't it the case that bowel bacteria ferment and break down fibre? And that these bacteria also produce useful amounts of vitamin K, biotin and folate?
Myrmecia 1 month ago