The most important thing is to protect yourself. and also protect your family.
The second most important thing is to protect the life of the robber.
not protecting your property, not drive him away, not setting a example for criminals, not holding up your reputation, not having revenge for the insult of intruding into your house.
@wTARTZAw I don't agree and am not going to and really don't want to keep going back and forth. I understand where you are coming from but I don't agree.
@gfreakj That is enough for me. I just wanted to explain how I felt about it, but it just never seemed to come out right. Thanks for being patient enough to try to undertand. Though I still hope my opinions will come to your thought to hunt you again.
Maybe it was just because it was so differend from what people are used to, the idea of punishing criminals yourself and handeling the sitsuation yourself is so strong.
hmmm... I hope I can explain my view well.. . hmmmm.. .
what I'm talking about is more the morally right rode to take than what law should expect of us. Its hard to judge have you done everything you could do. And there are also those people in our sosciety who feel that robbers deserve punishment from them and dont consider other options than harming or killing them, cant say I as a human cant understand them even thought I dont feel that way.
simple: if you say that we're not suposed to kill robbers... you're an stupid faggot or you're one of those human right fags...
I hope someday, someone breaks into your house... beat the shit outta your whole family... rape your kids, your wife/husband and leaves it and never get cought..>
MAybe YOU will understand why people kill robbers...
by the way... check the video on my channel of a robber getting his proper punishment.
Your idea sound like a really clever way to to make number of robberies go down. I does. But we dont live in dictature contries, we have human rights, and yes I do believe in human rights.
Stealing something shouldnt be something to get a death penalty for. But I also feel people protecting oneself FROM GETTING KILLED by shooting are right too.
but you have to remeber not all robbers are killers.
And you say you value life? The police are there so that we dont have to give these sudden dead penaltis to wrong doers for something as little as this. Material good can be replased but life is a one time miracle. Though I do agree they shouldnt just submit to being treated that way by someone, but they should let the law take care of the matter.
But when killing is the only option that is going to work one shouldnt feel bad about having done it to protect themselves or others.
@wTARTZAw If she had waited for the police the crime would have been done by the time they got there. I value life. My life. If someone might take mine I have every right to take theirs first.
Like I mentioned I do understand the situation of harming someone/ even killing them when the other option is being killed.
But dead penalty shouldnt be given when you have the scared reaction "might take my life". There are so many other rodes to take. Like if a robber doesnt have a weapon, no way of harming you, if you have a gun and basic control of gun, shooting him is a reaction you take because of your pride.
@wTARTZAw And what is someone supposed to do? Ask the person breaking in if they are armed or not? Come on. That makes no sense. If someone breaks into someones home that person will assume they are armed and rightly so because if they are willing to break in when they know someone is home they probably are armed.
If you are fast enough to notice them breaking in why cant you sneak out from the back door for example and call the police when they dont even know they have been noticed. with night robbers screaming that the police has been called works.
And I have meantioned many times that sometimes it just comes to the situation where you have to kill the robbers, your situation and the one in the video seem like that, but in my mind way too many dead at the moment are unnecasery.
@gfreakj Then it is a act done out of your pride. You consider your pride being more important than saving a life.
I can imagine thought going thru ones head-
why should I protect someone like him? why should I go out of my way to do something for him when I'm the wronged party in this? someone like that doesnt deserve to live. if you are worried about the loss on belongings you value material good over life. If you are worried about the shame you care about reputation more than life.
@gfreakj Yes I do know you never said it, I just mentioned that as one of the reason why the people who deside to kill robbers do it, no expesically meaning you with that.
But anyways, IF you can protect your life by leaving the house isnt it a better option than killing someone?
@wTARTZAw I believe we have the right to protect our homes. If everytime someone comes in to take things from people nothing will stop them. I believe fear is the only thing that stops some people from doing bad things. I am not saying that people have to shoot to kill. They can shoot for the leg or arm. But I do believe we have the right to protect our homes from being invaded for any reason. No one should set out to kill an intruder but if someone decides...continued
@gfreakj ...to enter someones home without permission they are taking a risk. They are accepting that they might end up dead. That is the criminals choice. They can avoid injury or death by not breaking the law in the first place.
I am heading out to the grocery store. Ill respond to your response later today.
@gfreakj well we did agree that there are cases when a loss of life just cant be avoided. ^-^
To me, the people's want to shoot so easily but saying they value life falls under the same category of people who think abortion is wrong but dead penlty is not. somehow to them not all life is precious.
@wTARTZAw Those are the cases I am talking about. Not someone is outside the door and seems to breaking in so you shoot and kill them. That was never my point. But if someone is busting into someones house while they are alone with their children then action has to be taken in my opinion. You know how I feel about dp and abortion. We agree on that.
@gfreakj heh, its hard to get the opinions out because sitsuations are always the most important.
I agree with the opinion of taking action against robbers, but the action should never be to kill if other rodes, like leaving the house as funny as it may sound, can be taken to protect oneself and ones family.
What is sad is that she had to wait until they broke in! If someone is even trying, we should have the right to pick up the shotgun and blast the door, window, or whatever part of the house they are trying to break into. Think if he would have been just as ready to shoot when he got in!
It's sad that people have to check to make sure they can protect themselves. I'm like you, if anyone puts one foot in my house they will be shot! I had a neighbor about a year ago try to break in about 4 am (after trying to get into my other neighbors house) and I had the shotgun loaded and ready for him to just take one step. Luckily the police finally showed up... too bad they let him go back to his house! Never rely on them!
Oklahoma has a felony murder act, which states, If you are in the act of a felony and someone gets killed all parties involved in said felony are guilty of the murder. So guess what. The accomplice that lived. He is going to get life!
Whats sad is that it was understood through out all time and history that all people had the right to protect themselves with any amount of force until just recently with lawyers stepping in and twisting that right. More criminals were protected and more innocents were harmed by this current mentality that its criminal to protect yourself than could ever be percieved
i wouldn't lose any sleep either. momma power should be feared! we're a tough bunch. i think she was just calling 911 for help and then went ahead and asked if it is ok for her to shoot. (i don't think she called just to ask if she could do that) anyway, i would have done the same thing.
i feel really bad for this lady- she's had a terrible time. i believe i read that her husband died on Christmas day. God bless her and her baby.
You home is your sanctuary. It's the one place you should be able to get away from it all, and just unwind. I'm glad it was televised nationally. I'm sure some low life was sitting on his couch somewhere thinking...Ohhh shit.
I say more power to this sweet girl..she was eighteen years old who husband died last week from lung cancer. My heart just broke for her ,she was trembling when being interviewed. You cold tell she felt horrible.but she had to protect her three month old son and herself.
OK she is 18. Confused about what the law maybe, but in no doubt that her job is to protect. Great Mum. Strange though that she called 911 and asked permission, In Australia we go like the UK and this young mum may find herself charged with using a disproportional amount of force. And of course fire arm registration laws and also not sure really but I think only professional people can have guns in Australia.? Gun law changes after Port Arthur mass shooting
So lucky you can do this in your country and be accepted, sadly in the UK we are entitled to that luxury of knowing we can defend ourselves with guns, but saying that I would have no problem beating them down with a baseball bat to protect my family, should any idiot decided to try and break in.
@DetroitGill Then it gets really hazy. A man in Texas got away with it a couple of years back, but it was close. If you're defending your neighbor's LIFE, you should be in the clear. If they aren't home, I'd yell at the robbers that I was gonna call the cops, then wait in my house until they came after me before I started ventilating them.
More people need to get guns your right. I want to become a police officer and I would tell anyone this if I become a full fledged officer of the law (In college right now). Defending yourself and family on your property especially is perfectly fine with me.
I agree. I can kind of understand her asking but,what they get they get. The Holy Bible says in Exodus 22:2-3,"If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.'',I would feel bad but,this says that there is no bloodguilt. God bless
I can understand where this lady is coming from. Are laws are so jacked up sometimes, who knows, the police might of charged her with man slaughter, you never know which way the government will treat you based on the sitution. But yes I agree, good for her and yes the government needs to mind their own dam bussiness.
@TheBrain257 Ya know what is sad is...had she not been on the phone with 911 when laid the smack down on that fool breaking in...she may have very well been hauled out to the police station...if nothing else...till after everything got sorted..maybe a day or two...also..I'm sure they would have contacted child welfare and tried to take her kid...i would not be surprised...that's how they ENJOY doing people. This way..she had told 911 what was up..and what was fixing to happen!
@Grifinmod I know, America makes laws with about 100 loop holes. One being yeah you have the right to protect your house but you have wieght to they are all they way in your house? You NEVER know, it just might be to late then. Where I live you can barly defend yourself, if somebody attacks you, you better stop them with the less bodily harm as possible, or you just might go down for assault as well, its quite a big joke.
you're aware that you're a gigant fake aren't you?
ZzRvXzZ 1 month ago
The most important thing is to protect yourself. and also protect your family.
The second most important thing is to protect the life of the robber.
not protecting your property, not drive him away, not setting a example for criminals, not holding up your reputation, not having revenge for the insult of intruding into your house.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw I don't agree and am not going to and really don't want to keep going back and forth. I understand where you are coming from but I don't agree.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj That is enough for me. I just wanted to explain how I felt about it, but it just never seemed to come out right. Thanks for being patient enough to try to undertand. Though I still hope my opinions will come to your thought to hunt you again.
Maybe it was just because it was so differend from what people are used to, the idea of punishing criminals yourself and handeling the sitsuation yourself is so strong.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw No problem at all. I always appreciate you sharing your point of view.
gfreakj 1 month ago
hmmm... I hope I can explain my view well.. . hmmmm.. .
what I'm talking about is more the morally right rode to take than what law should expect of us. Its hard to judge have you done everything you could do. And there are also those people in our sosciety who feel that robbers deserve punishment from them and dont consider other options than harming or killing them, cant say I as a human cant understand them even thought I dont feel that way.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw
simple: if you say that we're not suposed to kill robbers... you're an stupid faggot or you're one of those human right fags...
I hope someday, someone breaks into your house... beat the shit outta your whole family... rape your kids, your wife/husband and leaves it and never get cought..>
MAybe YOU will understand why people kill robbers...
by the way... check the video on my channel of a robber getting his proper punishment.
ZzRvXzZ 1 month ago
@ZzRvXzZ Really mature, arent you? lol.
Your idea sound like a really clever way to to make number of robberies go down. I does. But we dont live in dictature contries, we have human rights, and yes I do believe in human rights.
Stealing something shouldnt be something to get a death penalty for. But I also feel people protecting oneself FROM GETTING KILLED by shooting are right too.
but you have to remeber not all robbers are killers.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@Starwars1442 You break in you get what you get.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@vangard213 Agreed.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@UVpirate LOL. Well said.
gfreakj 1 month ago
And you say you value life? The police are there so that we dont have to give these sudden dead penaltis to wrong doers for something as little as this. Material good can be replased but life is a one time miracle. Though I do agree they shouldnt just submit to being treated that way by someone, but they should let the law take care of the matter.
But when killing is the only option that is going to work one shouldnt feel bad about having done it to protect themselves or others.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw If she had waited for the police the crime would have been done by the time they got there. I value life. My life. If someone might take mine I have every right to take theirs first.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj "If someone might take mine (life)."
Like I mentioned I do understand the situation of harming someone/ even killing them when the other option is being killed.
But dead penalty shouldnt be given when you have the scared reaction "might take my life". There are so many other rodes to take. Like if a robber doesnt have a weapon, no way of harming you, if you have a gun and basic control of gun, shooting him is a reaction you take because of your pride.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw And what is someone supposed to do? Ask the person breaking in if they are armed or not? Come on. That makes no sense. If someone breaks into someones home that person will assume they are armed and rightly so because if they are willing to break in when they know someone is home they probably are armed.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj
If you are fast enough to notice them breaking in why cant you sneak out from the back door for example and call the police when they dont even know they have been noticed. with night robbers screaming that the police has been called works.
And I have meantioned many times that sometimes it just comes to the situation where you have to kill the robbers, your situation and the one in the video seem like that, but in my mind way too many dead at the moment are unnecasery.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw Sneak out from my home? Run from people illegally entering my home? No way. Not happening.
This may be one of those RARE occasions where we just don't agree. ;)
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj Then it is a act done out of your pride. You consider your pride being more important than saving a life.
I can imagine thought going thru ones head-
why should I protect someone like him? why should I go out of my way to do something for him when I'm the wronged party in this? someone like that doesnt deserve to live. if you are worried about the loss on belongings you value material good over life. If you are worried about the shame you care about reputation more than life.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw You continue to put words into my mouth. I NEVER said anything about protecting property. I said protecting my LIFE.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj Yes I do know you never said it, I just mentioned that as one of the reason why the people who deside to kill robbers do it, no expesically meaning you with that.
But anyways, IF you can protect your life by leaving the house isnt it a better option than killing someone?
If the answer to you is no, then why not?
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw I believe we have the right to protect our homes. If everytime someone comes in to take things from people nothing will stop them. I believe fear is the only thing that stops some people from doing bad things. I am not saying that people have to shoot to kill. They can shoot for the leg or arm. But I do believe we have the right to protect our homes from being invaded for any reason. No one should set out to kill an intruder but if someone decides...continued
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj ...to enter someones home without permission they are taking a risk. They are accepting that they might end up dead. That is the criminals choice. They can avoid injury or death by not breaking the law in the first place.
I am heading out to the grocery store. Ill respond to your response later today.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj well we did agree that there are cases when a loss of life just cant be avoided. ^-^
To me, the people's want to shoot so easily but saying they value life falls under the same category of people who think abortion is wrong but dead penlty is not. somehow to them not all life is precious.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw Those are the cases I am talking about. Not someone is outside the door and seems to breaking in so you shoot and kill them. That was never my point. But if someone is busting into someones house while they are alone with their children then action has to be taken in my opinion. You know how I feel about dp and abortion. We agree on that.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj heh, its hard to get the opinions out because sitsuations are always the most important.
I agree with the opinion of taking action against robbers, but the action should never be to kill if other rodes, like leaving the house as funny as it may sound, can be taken to protect oneself and ones family.
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@gfreakj If loosing money is something to kill someone over, then howcome abortion shouldnt be allowed?
wTARTZAw 1 month ago
@wTARTZAw I didn't say that.
gfreakj 1 month ago
hmmm, i dunno ?
we (myself And Offspring) got a Very *Odd/UnEasy* feeling when watching the MainStreamMedia coverage of that , uh ... 'Story'?
Jist seemed like there was Either More, or Less to it.
Absolutely NOT a statement of our opinion of whether/not TO defend Self,Family,Property.
THAT has AllWays Supposed2B a ~GIVEN~.
did not ring 100% TRUE. ?shrug
~Peace~
LIFEIZTOOLTOOLIZLIFE 1 month ago
Weird Al's "Amish Paradise" suddenly sprang to mind
Chubzdoomer 1 month ago
What is sad is that she had to wait until they broke in! If someone is even trying, we should have the right to pick up the shotgun and blast the door, window, or whatever part of the house they are trying to break into. Think if he would have been just as ready to shoot when he got in!
Carrie3570 1 month ago
@Carrie3570
That is a REALLY good point!
taratorah 1 month ago
@Carrie3570 Agreed.
gfreakj 1 month ago
It's sad that people have to check to make sure they can protect themselves. I'm like you, if anyone puts one foot in my house they will be shot! I had a neighbor about a year ago try to break in about 4 am (after trying to get into my other neighbors house) and I had the shotgun loaded and ready for him to just take one step. Luckily the police finally showed up... too bad they let him go back to his house! Never rely on them!
Republican4U2Envy 1 month ago
@Republican4U2Envy Well said.
gfreakj 1 month ago
Totally agree with you gfreakj!
keebert 1 month ago
Oklahoma has a felony murder act, which states, If you are in the act of a felony and someone gets killed all parties involved in said felony are guilty of the murder. So guess what. The accomplice that lived. He is going to get life!
gonecyco 1 month ago
@gonecyco GOOD. Glad to hear it.
gfreakj 1 month ago
Whats sad is that it was understood through out all time and history that all people had the right to protect themselves with any amount of force until just recently with lawyers stepping in and twisting that right. More criminals were protected and more innocents were harmed by this current mentality that its criminal to protect yourself than could ever be percieved
G0dspelronin 1 month ago
@G0dspelronin Agreed.
gfreakj 1 month ago
I would have shot his ass right away man. Great video.
darkstardude8000 1 month ago
@darkstardude8000 Thanks.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@UVpirate or dead animal pick up
reevaluate2008 1 month ago
i wouldn't lose any sleep either. momma power should be feared! we're a tough bunch. i think she was just calling 911 for help and then went ahead and asked if it is ok for her to shoot. (i don't think she called just to ask if she could do that) anyway, i would have done the same thing.
i feel really bad for this lady- she's had a terrible time. i believe i read that her husband died on Christmas day. God bless her and her baby.
ask123321 1 month ago
@ask123321 I feel sorry for her too.
gfreakj 1 month ago
You home is your sanctuary. It's the one place you should be able to get away from it all, and just unwind. I'm glad it was televised nationally. I'm sure some low life was sitting on his couch somewhere thinking...Ohhh shit.
Think twice before you invade someones home...
Tanarus20 1 month ago
@Tanarus20 Right on!
gfreakj 1 month ago
I say more power to this sweet girl..she was eighteen years old who husband died last week from lung cancer. My heart just broke for her ,she was trembling when being interviewed. You cold tell she felt horrible.but she had to protect her three month old son and herself.
sdaryab 1 month ago
@sdaryab Agreed. She did what she had to do.
gfreakj 1 month ago
well people i have friends who are police and they tell me if someone breaks in your home.
it is ok to shoot them but make sure they stay inside becuse if they fall out side you can.
be be locked up for killing a person.
mrusa45 1 month ago
@mrusa45 I believe you but that is ridiculous.
gfreakj 1 month ago
Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.
jepst41 1 month ago
@jepst41 Right ON!
gfreakj 1 month ago
I agreeeeeee!!!!
blacksncommercials 1 month ago
@blacksncommercials ;)
gfreakj 1 month ago
That is a good idea, because if she didn't call and ask. She would have been doing time. The U.S is a sad place to live now a days.
151Neighborhood 1 month ago
@151Neighborhood Indeed it is.
gfreakj 1 month ago
My diagnosis is confirmed... :)
TheLegalImmigrant05 1 month ago
@TheLegalImmigrant05 LOL. Glad to hear it. ;)
gfreakj 1 month ago
I Think she called & asked permission for legal reasons
if she'd just said "someones breaking in my house, i'm shooting them"
would Not go "As good" in court as,
I asked if it was ok to shoot them & they said it's ok to protect my family.
Sooooo... I protected my family, she's scott free & clear for sure now
ncwdane 1 month ago
@ncwdane Agreed.
gfreakj 1 month ago
I would have killed them both without a thought.
NefariousVirtuoso88 1 month ago
@NefariousVirtuoso88 As you should.
gfreakj 1 month ago
OK she is 18. Confused about what the law maybe, but in no doubt that her job is to protect. Great Mum. Strange though that she called 911 and asked permission, In Australia we go like the UK and this young mum may find herself charged with using a disproportional amount of force. And of course fire arm registration laws and also not sure really but I think only professional people can have guns in Australia.? Gun law changes after Port Arthur mass shooting
ncstu 1 month ago
@ncstu Thank God we still have our right. So far...
gfreakj 1 month ago
Well said, :-)
Coffeeandasmoke 1 month ago
@Coffeeandasmoke Thanks.
gfreakj 1 month ago
wish things were different here in Australia, our gun laws suck farts!
trje246 1 month ago
@trje246 So I've heard.
gfreakj 1 month ago
So lucky you can do this in your country and be accepted, sadly in the UK we are entitled to that luxury of knowing we can defend ourselves with guns, but saying that I would have no problem beating them down with a baseball bat to protect my family, should any idiot decided to try and break in.
BobbitsWorld 1 month ago
@BobbitsWorld Just ain'yt right y'all can't defend yourselves more easily.
gfreakj 1 month ago
wut if I'm defending my neighbors house?
DetroitGill 1 month ago
@DetroitGill Then it gets really hazy. A man in Texas got away with it a couple of years back, but it was close. If you're defending your neighbor's LIFE, you should be in the clear. If they aren't home, I'd yell at the robbers that I was gonna call the cops, then wait in my house until they came after me before I started ventilating them.
SOAHCSOAHCSOAHC 1 month ago
It's sad that people so softly accept being slaves.
rockstarofredondo 1 month ago
@rockstarofredondo Indeed.
gfreakj 1 month ago
More people need to get guns your right. I want to become a police officer and I would tell anyone this if I become a full fledged officer of the law (In college right now). Defending yourself and family on your property especially is perfectly fine with me.
Kingofdaheavyweights 1 month ago
@Kingofdaheavyweights Sounds like you'd make a good cop. We need more of those.
gfreakj 1 month ago
I agree. I can kind of understand her asking but,what they get they get. The Holy Bible says in Exodus 22:2-3,"If a thief is found breaking in and is struck so that he dies, there shall be no bloodguilt for him, but if the sun has risen on him, there shall be bloodguilt for him. He shall surely pay. If he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft.'',I would feel bad but,this says that there is no bloodguilt. God bless
Justericpersonal 1 month ago
@Justericpersonal Well said. Thanks for sharing that verse.
gfreakj 1 month ago
@gfreakj thank you! and,you are very welcome :)
Justericpersonal 1 month ago
AWESOME VIDEO!!!
sajm4315 2 months ago
@sajm4315 Thanks.
gfreakj 1 month ago
EXACTLY!
danbowski40 2 months ago
Well, she's a polite lady I'll give her that.
Her: I'm going to shoot you now.
Robber: Oh, ok.
Her: Where would you like it?
Robber: I dunno, surprise me.
hunkatiel 2 months ago 10
@hunkatiel hahaha the sarcasm in this made me laugh LOL
Justericpersonal 2 months ago
@hunkatiel LOL
gfreakj 1 month ago
I can understand where this lady is coming from. Are laws are so jacked up sometimes, who knows, the police might of charged her with man slaughter, you never know which way the government will treat you based on the sitution. But yes I agree, good for her and yes the government needs to mind their own dam bussiness.
TheBrain257 2 months ago
@TheBrain257 Ya know what is sad is...had she not been on the phone with 911 when laid the smack down on that fool breaking in...she may have very well been hauled out to the police station...if nothing else...till after everything got sorted..maybe a day or two...also..I'm sure they would have contacted child welfare and tried to take her kid...i would not be surprised...that's how they ENJOY doing people. This way..she had told 911 what was up..and what was fixing to happen!
Grifinmod 2 months ago
@Grifinmod I know, America makes laws with about 100 loop holes. One being yeah you have the right to protect your house but you have wieght to they are all they way in your house? You NEVER know, it just might be to late then. Where I live you can barly defend yourself, if somebody attacks you, you better stop them with the less bodily harm as possible, or you just might go down for assault as well, its quite a big joke.
TheBrain257 2 months ago
I don't think it would bother me to shoot someone that was breaking into my house with a 12 inch knife..nope, not at all.
zookeeper220 2 months ago
@zookeeper220 I'm SHOCKED! ;)
gfreakj 1 month ago
I have a gun a 9mm. love it :)
yomomy585 2 months ago