@BlitzRyuu After you've thrown two tails, the probability of throwing heads is still (.5) or 50% -> which means you would need (1/.5) that is 2 tries on average to toss a single heads. However, the probability of throwing TTH in that order is .5x.5x.5 = .125 or 12.5%
Which means on average it would take you 8 attempts to succeed in throwing TTH.
He actually tossed the coin about 1000 times, and, filmed for about 9 hours non-stop to catch this 10 times head streak! Then they showed us the last minutes of the video.
@ShaneCopseysTV Yeah, now that's dedication, to stand there filming, pretending you're going to get 10 heads in a row every time you start again, for nine freaking hours. Then again, he does say he has an obsessive side, so maybe this wasn't as much of a trial to him as it would have been for you or me...
My best bet is that he can really do it. Probably not in one go but in a few tries he can. He threw a pack of cards in water and only one face up was the one a woman chose.. I dont see how he cant do that for a coin.
He is a skilled magician who has practiced this a lot because it is his job. Watch how consistently his flipping technique is after his first flip. Same height and, same speed, etc... Fair flip - my eye.
In case anyone didn't work it out, on average, he only needs to do 2048 coin tosses to get 10 in a row. At one coin toss every ten seconds, it would take an average 5 hours and 40 minutes of patient tossing to get the ten consecutive heads.
He can halve this by pre-recording the requirement as either heads or tails, and just tossing 10 consecutive same-side tosses.
..of course he could be unlucky, there is a 1 in 10000 chance he might have to continue for 60 hours.
@tonycatman. well, to be more precise, he would need to do 2048 sets of 10 throws on average per one set of ten heads he'd want to throw. so that would make 2057 throws to come up with 2048 sets of 10 throws.
but that one set of 10 trows does not necessarily have to come as the final set of 10 throws out of those 2048 sets of 10 throws, and he doesn't have to finish the rest of the throws. this would mean it would take, i estimate, about 60% of the amount of throws, on average.
@lygophile I don't think you are right (but I'm not sure).
He doesn't need to continue for 10 tosses each time. He would start counting at one on each occasion where he made a toss different from the previous result.
i.e. H1-H2-T1-T2-T3-H1-H2-T1-T2-T3-T4-T5-T6-T7-H1-T1-H1-H2 etc
you know when i just watch this clip you can obviously see the cut-away at :43 where he could easily switch for a double-headed coin. you never see the tails in either of the screens. now obviously anyone can figure that out. and i originally when watching the system thought he did this legit but now i think he just switched the coin and then filmed it pretending like he did it.
@gamefreakforlife haha, not quite, if u watch the whole show he explains that they litteraly were flipping the coin all day long until it landed on heads 10 times in a row, and if you look closely you can see that their is a tales...
I think people are stupid. Why would darren spend a day flipping coins when he can edit the overhead video and make it look like he did it in one go? This man is nothing but a con artist, making humanity look even more stupid than we are.
To those who posted below but do not know the answer; he just flipped coins all day. Eventually in a streak of 10.000 flips the chances on 10 heads in a row are much more likely. They did cut out the times it did not work out. Is shown in the same TV show, at the end.
Both sides are heads? He tried it a bunch of times?
There's a ton of explanations for his videos. I think a lot of his stuff is real but a fair amount is just TV magic aka. editing, multiple takes, and actors.
People need to read up. On this trick he tried 9 hours. On the horse racing, he chooses 7776 people. Because there are six horses, he tells 1296 people to choose the the horse that he predicts. After that, only 1296 people have belief in him. He then spreads the out in the same process. You are left with 216 people. He repeats, and there are 36 left. He spreads the out, then is left with 6. He spreads the out, then is left with 1. That means that 1 person out of 7776 people he predicted 5 times.
It is statistically possible to land 10 heads on a coin toss in a roll, but the probability of that occurs is low. The key word here is LOW, but not IMPOSSIBLE. So if I film myself and spend a few hours tossing coins I am statically bound to have 10 heads in a row if I do it long enough. In fact I just tossed a coin and received 4 heads in a row after 4 tosses.
@jdayne It is just as likely to land 10 heads as any other outcome. Every toss has a 50% change of landing heads. 10 in a row does not change it. Think of it this way: Some people say that using lottery numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 is idiotic, but it's not. It is just as likely as any other combination of numbers. Derren Brown says this on his book.
@789123Y You are right and wrong. If he were only to toss the coin 1 time it would be 50/50 chance. However, if the coin is to land 10 times in a row, its actually 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 ............ x 0.5. Use a calculator on this (0.5^10) and you'll see the chances for this is ridicioulusly low...
@Retronicer But in the way you say it, the chances of getting another heads kind of decreases after every throw, doesn't it? I don't see why that happens. The coin still has two sides, and the chances are still 50% to get heads.
The chance of getting the NEXT heads is 50%. However, the chance of you getting Heads on the first flip, heads on the second flip, heads on the third, etc... until ten flips is 1 in 1024.
The odds of getting say.. five Heads is different because there are 252 in 1024 possibilities of Heads/Tails flips to have five of each (compare that to the ONE possibility of getting ten Heads). If you ever take a class of Combinatorics they will teach you this stuff.
@789123Y actually, using the lottery numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 is somewhat idiotic because, somewhat surprisingly, a lot of people actually choose those numbers.
I dont know the method, theres lots of different ways to rig a coin. - However, this could be done with a normal one, just by doing it 9 hours straight - I mean eventually you would get a little feel as to what motion makes the coin do what.
well actually its pretty well known that if you place the coin, lets say, on heads, facing upwards, it will most likely land heads...sure, all tosses must be closely identical. i always do that to win a coin toss ;)
that wouldn't work because the coin lands on a bowl, not on a plain surface
My guess is that he simply did it like showed, until it went tails, when it did he simply started over, it can take one thousand times but eventually he would have gotten 10 heads in a row
Its like that experiment where you tell 100 people to predict heads or tails on a coin and then eliminate the ones that miss and do it again with the rest, eventually you will get the one guy that got it right 10 or 20 times in a row
yeah thats exactly what he does with the horse racing part of this show, he has lots of ppl doing it, the person he features in the show is the only one to win with each bet.. as ppl lose they are eliminated.
It's like a Martingale system in craps. Red or Black, Odd or Even (granted a bit less less than 50/50 because of the 0,00) That is why casinos have limits on craps or a mandatory number bet . If you had a near infinite amount of money and the table had no limit you would win. Basically the system says bet 1 thing all the time; i.e. odd, or black and stick to it; double bet each time. YOU WILL HIT . But it might be 5,8, 12, 20 spins, hence the limit. Each spin, like a toss is mutually exclusive.
Most of his tricks are pretty lame, but this one canvas a bigger message. You see the good results of the so called "system" applied to business/politics/sovereignty, but who about the shadows unseen?
@kavinsky909 Without insulting me, you're going to have to explain that statement, because isn't NLP by definition the use of just language and it's impact on our nerve system? What does language have to do with what a physical coin does when you throw it?
Please don't put these random clips on Youtube. Put the whole show that people can acctually see what this is about, so they don't present their stupid camera trick explanations. Derren explains this on The System. He threw the coin for 9 hours to make it 10 heads in a row.
@789123Y i've seen this, and I know how he does it. However, allow for the rest of those who don't know, to be bedazzled. you're just ruining it for them. Let them watch the system for itself.
@TimothyMass dude, the point is not in the coin toss. btw what credibility would you have for a 9 hour tossing until he got it right. more impressive if it was right ahead. he was reaching a point of "the system", the coin was just an example, having some camera work and a coin tossing is much better, even without a double sided coin they would just show the takes of the head. Just my opinion though, I would've done that than wasting 9 hours tossing a coin :)
@Evan, if you knew anything about hypnosis you'd know that you can't make people do what they do not want to do. Better find someone that would be willing to do that for you.
The right hand video could have been performed at any time. 10 "heads" results were filmed complete with the hand diving in after the coin to recover it, and then those were synced up with the left hand frame activity.
The results in the left hand frame could have been anything, we never see it. But they were certainly mixed results.
Then you just sync them up afterward.
He was not flipping that coin all day. If he was he would organize the cameras to capture the legitimate result properly
I believe he did flip that coin for nine hours straight, before he got that right. Look at his smile right before the 10th and also at this five o'clock shadow
Guess you just got lucky, I play pound up with my friends n i've had 8 heads in a row before, it don't usually happen though. I honestly think you done it over and over again till you got it right.
He was trying to throw heads, being as close as he could to control the number of flips, choosing what side he began to flip. So the probability of him throwing heads would be significantly greater than 50%. While .5^10 is a about 0.1% chance of throwing 10 heads, if he could throw 70% heads, 0.7^10 would be about a 2.8% probability of throwing 10 heads.
A "perfect" coin toss would be 50%, but he was controlling his tosses, making sure the coin started on on a side of his choosing and trying to flipp it consistent number of times, so the probability changes. Understand?
@01EPIC yes each individual toss of the coin has a 50% probablitity of being heads or tails but the chance of doing it ova and ova agian gets smaller. 1/2*1/2=1/4 and so on ans so forth.
As you noted, probability wise, it should have taken him about 1024 tries (1/2,1/4,1/8,1/16,1/32,1/64,1/128,1/256,1/512,1/1024). If each attempt took 30 seconds, it would have taken him around 8.5 hours.
That's assuming that each permutation of throws MUST actually occur. This is not the case as 01Epic and BSDist point out that each following flip - or sequence of flips - have nothing to do with previous flips. Theoretically, if you have a 6-sided die, it could take all day to roll any particular number even once.
It's more likely that he rigged it.
Plus, notice how only the first flip is 'real' the others he seems to slide them in.
I realize that each flip is in no way affected by the last and, yes, theoretically you might not get one side of a di in a thousand rolls. But the probability of that is so low as to be virtually zero. The probability of ten heads flips in a row is exactly how I calculated it.
In fact, someone showed me a clip of the end of the show and that is exactly what he did. It took him 9 hours, I had calculated it would take 8.5. Look at the math I did or try it for yourself.
I understand what you mean about each flip having the same odds regardless of what has happened before it, that applies to single flips: after he got 9 in a row, the odds of a 10th head will still be 50/50. However, that is the odds of a single flip, not all ten of them.
He could have just done it over and over again if he had the patience... I brute-forced a 4 digit bike lock I forgot the combo to once. However, it'd be a lot simpler to have just lied about it not being a camera trick. :P
@dejakhalz: The probability of him hitting 10 in a row on a FAIR coin is 1 out of 2^10.. or 1 out of 1024.
Derren probably used the age-old double-headed coin. Notice how before the first flip lands, the camera cuts away from the "slow-mo" cam to a the split-screen. (The slo-mo is used to suggest that a fair coin is used.)
And then after the 10th flip, the camera cuts to a view of Darren's face. Notice that he didn't pick up the coin after the 10th flip to show that it truly was a fair coin.
i do this alot...there is probably a 90% chance that if the coin is facing heads up before being tossed,then when it lands it will be heads.the amount of force put in the toss does count.
What are you talking about!?! Do you actually think someone can control the outcome of a non-rigged coin toss by putting just the right force on the flip!?
actually there's a study they did, that we learned about it in my phsych class, where with enough practice they got multiple groups of peers to produce heads of 60% of the time.
Although I suspect that if this is a non-trick that Darren is using the curvature of the bowl to get the results he wishes
I knew I had heard about that coin toss experiment; I finally found what I had heard about it.
Search for a video called "James Randi speaks: can't fool me" It's a video about how overconfident experts can decieve themselves. At 5:30 he talks about that experiment, if the one you are talking about is the one from Princeton. He says the controls were flawed. Randi's a pretty trustworthy source on these matters.
Seeing as he is wearing sleeves it is possible that the first one was on a fair coin and therefore the chance 50/50, but then he switched it to a double headed biased coine where the probability is obviously 100%, because if you watch it you don't so much as get a glimmer of tails.
im guessing since he changes it up by hitting the walls and just flicking it in the bowl without hitting the edges, he"s accounting for variable change
Here's my input. I love magic and do some, and I really like his work. I don't see how this could be edited together, its seamless. The thing I noticed was that there has to be a camera over the bowl. You can't see that camera in the left hand shot, while you would have to see it if the shot on the right was taken at that same time.
basically, he filmed this loads and loads of times until he got 10 heads ina row in 1 seemless shot. the system is that you can have so many people 1 will always win if u allow them to bet on each one. its simple but not really al that magical
The odds of him getting ten heads (or tails) in a row is more than 1,000 to 1.
More likely he's switching coins between flips. Notice how he never lets you see the other side of the coin when he removes it from the bowl--because it has a head on each side.
LOL If the cameraman forgot to push the record button ...
olivierjaquet 1 week ago
this is a man flipping a coin 10 times. i typed in impossible videos... wtf youtube.
united1623 3 weeks ago
At 1:41 he tosses it and it bounces but in the side view it just rolls...?
BlitzRyuu 1 month ago
Here's some simple maths:
Probability of tossing 10 Heads in a row = (0.5)^10 = 0.0009765625 = 0.09765625%
Expected number of tries you would need to get 10 heads in a row = 1/0.0009765625 = 1024.
Therefore, in an ideal world Derren would have needed 1024 attempts in order to succeed.
ba3cool 2 months ago
@ba3cool so after you've thrown two tails, is the chance of you throwing a heads any higher than before? i think not
BlitzRyuu 1 month ago
@BlitzRyuu After you've thrown two tails, the probability of throwing heads is still (.5) or 50% -> which means you would need (1/.5) that is 2 tries on average to toss a single heads. However, the probability of throwing TTH in that order is .5x.5x.5 = .125 or 12.5%
Which means on average it would take you 8 attempts to succeed in throwing TTH.
ba3cool 1 month ago
Not as good as the stuff in the Mindreading Exposed ebook
yeeeeahdroppingteam 4 months ago
he has a weird mustache
TheRoboChronic 6 months ago
I'm impressed at how calm he looks, as the count gets higher and higher. In his mind he's probably like... come on. come on. don't f-ck up now.
AwkwardPanda29 9 months ago
Try 1,000,000 times head side. That would really be something!
mtv565 9 months ago
Thank for the upload.
BG2071 10 months ago
It is not a fake coin!
He actually tossed the coin about 1000 times, and, filmed for about 9 hours non-stop to catch this 10 times head streak! Then they showed us the last minutes of the video.
This is explained in the actual show.
THUMBS UP SO EVERYONE CAN SEE.
13cbt13 1 year ago 18
1/1024
ShaneCopseysTV 1 year ago
@ShaneCopseysTV Yeah, now that's dedication, to stand there filming, pretending you're going to get 10 heads in a row every time you start again, for nine freaking hours. Then again, he does say he has an obsessive side, so maybe this wasn't as much of a trial to him as it would have been for you or me...
FlashJack85 7 months ago
Actually he spent 9 hours throwing a double headed coin
gioaogionny 1 year ago 7
i thing the coin has two heads ...
Ne0n00 1 year ago
@Ne0n00 you can see the coin spinning in the air it only has one dont be stupid
HPEJuggalo93 1 year ago
@Ne0n00 are you fking retarded? look at it again you can clearly see both sides.
dumbass
150buckfifty150 1 year ago
Both sides had a head.
....the small instance of slow motion is a tricked addition.
rsobhee 1 year ago
@rsobhee WRONG
T22Lee 1 year ago
@T22Lee
My best bet is that he can really do it. Probably not in one go but in a few tries he can. He threw a pack of cards in water and only one face up was the one a woman chose.. I dont see how he cant do that for a coin.
rsobhee 1 year ago
@rsobhee
He tells you how its done in the full episode... it's not magic
T22Lee 1 year ago
He is a skilled magician who has practiced this a lot because it is his job. Watch how consistently his flipping technique is after his first flip. Same height and, same speed, etc... Fair flip - my eye.
ppsh42b 1 year ago
imagine how fuckin pumped he was that he finally got 10 and he had to act all cool
scottyraw13 1 year ago 4
@brandonplaysguitar16......Wow,if you are so Stupid to believe that Shit...there is nothing more left to say...only....GOODBYE REALITY !!
TheFreezetyle 1 year ago
using NLP on the coin ?
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gaithouri 1 year ago
There is a way to control a coins outcome.. it works 80% of the time.. but is not widely known..
mentalistlance 1 year ago
Он очень нервничал и почесал нос — это обман!
iCase 1 year ago
...the Coin got only the Head Symbol...on both Sides or it has been Editing together...Scene by Scene!!
TheFreezetyle 1 year ago
@TheFreezetyle lol wrong
brandonplaysguitar16 1 year ago
tongue waggle at 0:04
connectthedots2012 1 year ago 2
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marcjtdc 1 year ago
Hahaha tongue waggle at 0:06 xD
xcountxcodyx 1 year ago
In case anyone didn't work it out, on average, he only needs to do 2048 coin tosses to get 10 in a row. At one coin toss every ten seconds, it would take an average 5 hours and 40 minutes of patient tossing to get the ten consecutive heads.
He can halve this by pre-recording the requirement as either heads or tails, and just tossing 10 consecutive same-side tosses.
..of course he could be unlucky, there is a 1 in 10000 chance he might have to continue for 60 hours.
tonycatman 1 year ago 5
@tonycatman. well, to be more precise, he would need to do 2048 sets of 10 throws on average per one set of ten heads he'd want to throw. so that would make 2057 throws to come up with 2048 sets of 10 throws.
but that one set of 10 trows does not necessarily have to come as the final set of 10 throws out of those 2048 sets of 10 throws, and he doesn't have to finish the rest of the throws. this would mean it would take, i estimate, about 60% of the amount of throws, on average.
lygophile 1 year ago
@lygophile I don't think you are right (but I'm not sure).
He doesn't need to continue for 10 tosses each time. He would start counting at one on each occasion where he made a toss different from the previous result.
i.e. H1-H2-T1-T2-T3-H1-H2-T1-T2-T3-T4-T5-T6-T7-H1-T1-H1-H2 etc
tonycatman 1 year ago
@tonycatman. true. that's why i didn't tenfold the amount of throws required, i just added 9 throws.
11 throws can be two sets of ten throws. for this purpose anyway.
lygophile 1 year ago
lol, the horse coming first is 23 for michael jordan :D
FunkiiMunkii2 1 year ago
I can just imagine the camera jamming the second the number 10 landed
BassmrDK 1 year ago
you know when i just watch this clip you can obviously see the cut-away at :43 where he could easily switch for a double-headed coin. you never see the tails in either of the screens. now obviously anyone can figure that out. and i originally when watching the system thought he did this legit but now i think he just switched the coin and then filmed it pretending like he did it.
he is such a genius at performance of trickery
1pokerknight 1 year ago
his cool like that
EvolutionXEngine 1 year ago
its probably just a double sided coin.
sure he could have spent all day flipping a coin, or he may have edited the overhead video... but more than likely its just a double sided coin.
mark1m 1 year ago
@mark1m In slow mo you can clearly see both sides are not the same.
xfreshmints 1 year ago
@xfreshmints pay close attention after the slowmo is there's a cut
if you take the trouble of pausing during the 6th and 7th throw you can see that the it's a double head coin. master of trickery that man
gamefreakforlife 1 year ago
@gamefreakforlife Ohhhh
xfreshmints 1 year ago
@gamefreakforlife haha, not quite, if u watch the whole show he explains that they litteraly were flipping the coin all day long until it landed on heads 10 times in a row, and if you look closely you can see that their is a tales...
imcool88822 1 year ago
anyone else notice that at 0:06 he does this thing with his tongue>
EmoPerson36 1 year ago 3
@EmoPerson36 haha
vaughanpanthers14 1 year ago
I think people are stupid. Why would darren spend a day flipping coins when he can edit the overhead video and make it look like he did it in one go? This man is nothing but a con artist, making humanity look even more stupid than we are.
greengronirandom 1 year ago
To those who posted below but do not know the answer; he just flipped coins all day. Eventually in a streak of 10.000 flips the chances on 10 heads in a row are much more likely. They did cut out the times it did not work out. Is shown in the same TV show, at the end.
KiezelSteentje 1 year ago 4
Both sides are heads? He tried it a bunch of times?
There's a ton of explanations for his videos. I think a lot of his stuff is real but a fair amount is just TV magic aka. editing, multiple takes, and actors.
riethc 1 year ago
the chances of getting head's here in america r actually pretty high. i say a 10/10
pestrada 1 year ago
The probability is low, but it absolutely can be done.
.5 to the power of 10 = 0.0009765625
chrisjou42 1 year ago
that's amazing showmanship for fliming 9 hours.
Griffinltd 1 year ago
What is this from?
fiddlerfanofheifetz 1 year ago
or both sides are head :)
jozlynlay 1 year ago
lol, my dad does this trick, he throws it up in the air catches it and calls what it is, his best was only 8 though, not all same side in row tho
dapwnage123 1 year ago
@dapwnage123 That trick is in "Magic for dummies" if you wanna know =).. I use it quite often.
jonabank 1 year ago
People need to read up. On this trick he tried 9 hours. On the horse racing, he chooses 7776 people. Because there are six horses, he tells 1296 people to choose the the horse that he predicts. After that, only 1296 people have belief in him. He then spreads the out in the same process. You are left with 216 people. He repeats, and there are 36 left. He spreads the out, then is left with 6. He spreads the out, then is left with 1. That means that 1 person out of 7776 people he predicted 5 times.
PinguMW2 1 year ago
This is real, unlike a lot of his other stuff.
flinagin 1 year ago
yo i can do this
derooke1976 1 year ago
1 in 1024 chance of getting 10 heads in a row :P
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Anonymity0 1 year ago
It is statistically possible to land 10 heads on a coin toss in a roll, but the probability of that occurs is low. The key word here is LOW, but not IMPOSSIBLE. So if I film myself and spend a few hours tossing coins I am statically bound to have 10 heads in a row if I do it long enough. In fact I just tossed a coin and received 4 heads in a row after 4 tosses.
jdayne 1 year ago
@jdayne It is just as likely to land 10 heads as any other outcome. Every toss has a 50% change of landing heads. 10 in a row does not change it. Think of it this way: Some people say that using lottery numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 is idiotic, but it's not. It is just as likely as any other combination of numbers. Derren Brown says this on his book.
789123Y 1 year ago
@789123Y You are right and wrong. If he were only to toss the coin 1 time it would be 50/50 chance. However, if the coin is to land 10 times in a row, its actually 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.5 ............ x 0.5. Use a calculator on this (0.5^10) and you'll see the chances for this is ridicioulusly low...
Retronicer 1 year ago
@Retronicer But in the way you say it, the chances of getting another heads kind of decreases after every throw, doesn't it? I don't see why that happens. The coin still has two sides, and the chances are still 50% to get heads.
789123Y 1 year ago
@789123Y
The chance of getting the NEXT heads is 50%. However, the chance of you getting Heads on the first flip, heads on the second flip, heads on the third, etc... until ten flips is 1 in 1024.
The odds of getting say.. five Heads is different because there are 252 in 1024 possibilities of Heads/Tails flips to have five of each (compare that to the ONE possibility of getting ten Heads). If you ever take a class of Combinatorics they will teach you this stuff.
WhyteBunny 1 year ago
@WhyteBunny Okay then, i believe you. I've never been very good at maths, so i'm not really the one to argue on this subject.
789123Y 1 year ago
@789123Y actually, using the lottery numbers 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 is somewhat idiotic because, somewhat surprisingly, a lot of people actually choose those numbers.
nzmaximus 1 year ago
Imagine if he missed the bowel on the 9th toss xD
flippy102 1 year ago
I dont know the method, theres lots of different ways to rig a coin. - However, this could be done with a normal one, just by doing it 9 hours straight - I mean eventually you would get a little feel as to what motion makes the coin do what.
Amazingly Non Magical !
pklukepk 2 years ago
if you watch the actual show, at the end he shows that he was there for ages until he did ten in a row
AgainstMe89 1 year ago
Yes, that's how he did it, 9 hours. I'm supprised he didn't freak out when he finally got it
flippy102 1 year ago
the probability is low but it still exists
P(H)= (1/2)^10(1/2)^0
faelun 2 years ago
well actually its pretty well known that if you place the coin, lets say, on heads, facing upwards, it will most likely land heads...sure, all tosses must be closely identical. i always do that to win a coin toss ;)
gazillionandone19 2 years ago
that wouldn't work because the coin lands on a bowl, not on a plain surface
My guess is that he simply did it like showed, until it went tails, when it did he simply started over, it can take one thousand times but eventually he would have gotten 10 heads in a row
Its like that experiment where you tell 100 people to predict heads or tails on a coin and then eliminate the ones that miss and do it again with the rest, eventually you will get the one guy that got it right 10 or 20 times in a row
neveSykcuL 2 years ago
yeah thats exactly what he does with the horse racing part of this show, he has lots of ppl doing it, the person he features in the show is the only one to win with each bet.. as ppl lose they are eliminated.
AgainstMe89 1 year ago
No, coins are just naturally slightly more likely to land heads.
flippy102 1 year ago
Sorry, not craps...roulette. I must be drunk. my fault.
mrfiggins 2 years ago
It's like a Martingale system in craps. Red or Black, Odd or Even (granted a bit less less than 50/50 because of the 0,00) That is why casinos have limits on craps or a mandatory number bet . If you had a near infinite amount of money and the table had no limit you would win. Basically the system says bet 1 thing all the time; i.e. odd, or black and stick to it; double bet each time. YOU WILL HIT . But it might be 5,8, 12, 20 spins, hence the limit. Each spin, like a toss is mutually exclusive.
mrfiggins 2 years ago
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pfffft just flip a coin a shitload of times n eventually ull get 10heads
TheManFromUrAnus 2 years ago
Most of his tricks are pretty lame, but this one canvas a bigger message. You see the good results of the so called "system" applied to business/politics/sovereignty, but who about the shadows unseen?
FlamingPope 2 years ago
this guy could trick the shit out of you,take your wife and your wealth and make you be happy with it :)))
GadgetVision 2 years ago 2
@GadgetVision - you maybe. It's hard to fool people on the inside of the loop.
pklukepk 2 years ago
dude you guys are so dumb, he's OBVISSOULY using NLP on the coin, he says multiple time it will land on head 10 times in a row.
kavinsky909 2 years ago 80
@kavinsky909 dude you r so dumb... I doubt a coin can hear him, and it's all about probability
AdamsTeinz 1 year ago
@AdamsTeinz Youtube is full of stupid people, but i believe you are really a bottom feeder among them.
Stuffcakes 1 year ago
@Stuffcakes I know I said too much, it was meant only for fun...
AdamsTeinz 1 year ago
@kavinsky909 Without insulting me, you're going to have to explain that statement, because isn't NLP by definition the use of just language and it's impact on our nerve system? What does language have to do with what a physical coin does when you throw it?
SoooooRich 1 year ago
@SoooooRich I think he was joking
ChaosTheory11 1 year ago
@ChaosTheory11 I don't think he was joking. He called everyone dumb.
SoooooRich 1 year ago
@SoooooRich he really IS joking... sometimes ppl joke like that. it's sarcasm mixed with a joke.
YuneShik 1 year ago
@kavinsky909 HAHA! Most certainly!
LarryLynx 1 year ago
@kavinsky909
the funniest part is reading all the responses of the retards that don't get it....
Leadman1989 1 year ago
Lol, u are so stupid if any of you think he was using NLP on the coin, that was a joke
JLMA00 1 year ago
@kavinsky909 whats an NLP
TheInventorL 1 year ago
the coin could be to heads people come on
ThePatsboy 2 years ago
Please don't put these random clips on Youtube. Put the whole show that people can acctually see what this is about, so they don't present their stupid camera trick explanations. Derren explains this on The System. He threw the coin for 9 hours to make it 10 heads in a row.
789123Y 2 years ago 94
@789123Y i've seen this, and I know how he does it. However, allow for the rest of those who don't know, to be bedazzled. you're just ruining it for them. Let them watch the system for itself.
eyeunderstandify 1 year ago
@eyeunderstandify You are propably right, but i just got so annoyed by all the bullshit theories on this page that i just had to say something.
789123Y 1 year ago
@789123Y it would have been easier to use a camera trick or a trick coin. Stupid limey wanker.
sk8erfrombham 1 year ago
@789123Y but isn't it easier to use a double sided heads coin than throwing for 9 hours, and then assuming that it was a 9 hour throw
pimpmymail 1 year ago
@pimpmymail that would be cheating. Anyone can do that... I he would have done that, he would have lost all of his credibility.
TimothyMass 1 year ago
@TimothyMass dude, the point is not in the coin toss. btw what credibility would you have for a 9 hour tossing until he got it right. more impressive if it was right ahead. he was reaching a point of "the system", the coin was just an example, having some camera work and a coin tossing is much better, even without a double sided coin they would just show the takes of the head. Just my opinion though, I would've done that than wasting 9 hours tossing a coin :)
pimpmymail 1 year ago
@789123Y I just wanted to show my friends this bit of the show. So THANKS FOR POSTING THIS SEGMENT!
physicsissexy 5 months ago
fuck that let him throu in different hight plus there is barely any spinning.sorry and happy cracked this one
dejanns84 2 years ago
@Evan, if you knew anything about hypnosis you'd know that you can't make people do what they do not want to do. Better find someone that would be willing to do that for you.
Goskaq 2 years ago
The right hand video could have been performed at any time. 10 "heads" results were filmed complete with the hand diving in after the coin to recover it, and then those were synced up with the left hand frame activity.
The results in the left hand frame could have been anything, we never see it. But they were certainly mixed results.
Then you just sync them up afterward.
He was not flipping that coin all day. If he was he would organize the cameras to capture the legitimate result properly
padperson 2 years ago
Actually, he did do it until he got 10 heads in a row. It took 9 hours to do it until he got the required film.
XguitrfreekX 2 years ago
probably some slick editing, as good as this guy is, if i were him, i'd be hypnotizing hot chicks out of their panties...lol
EvanQuinn07 2 years ago
@EvanQuinn07 you can't hypnotize ppl to do what they wouldnt do in normal state! such as kill some1, have sex with ya and so on
ShahnamPersia 2 years ago
big fucking deal. this isnt impossible.
frcfed 2 years ago 3
I believe he did flip that coin for nine hours straight, before he got that right. Look at his smile right before the 10th and also at this five o'clock shadow
JohannesenBergur 2 years ago 3
Guess you just got lucky, I play pound up with my friends n i've had 8 heads in a row before, it don't usually happen though. I honestly think you done it over and over again till you got it right.
BwSeven 2 years ago
He was trying to throw heads, being as close as he could to control the number of flips, choosing what side he began to flip. So the probability of him throwing heads would be significantly greater than 50%. While .5^10 is a about 0.1% chance of throwing 10 heads, if he could throw 70% heads, 0.7^10 would be about a 2.8% probability of throwing 10 heads.
BSDist 2 years ago
not even close...
these probabilities dont add up...
every throwing of the coin hasn't to do anything with the previous or the next one..
every time he throws the coin he's got a 50% chance to get it heads(or tails).throwing a coin no matter how many times is an independant aspect....
this coin should be rigged
01EPIC 2 years ago
A "perfect" coin toss would be 50%, but he was controlling his tosses, making sure the coin started on on a side of his choosing and trying to flipp it consistent number of times, so the probability changes. Understand?
BSDist 2 years ago 2
@01EPIC yes each individual toss of the coin has a 50% probablitity of being heads or tails but the chance of doing it ova and ova agian gets smaller. 1/2*1/2=1/4 and so on ans so forth.
PrinceCovington 2 years ago
i agree to the fact that he tossed the coin too many times in order to get 10 heads in a row,but not that he "controls" the tosses!
01EPIC 2 years ago
He just tried it over and over all day until he got ten.
However, the way he has the cameras set up he could have just had a 2 headed coin falling into the bowl on the right.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
the odds of him getting it heads 10 times in a row would be .50^10, which would equal to 9.765625x10^-4.
Eeeeeeediot 2 years ago
As you noted, probability wise, it should have taken him about 1024 tries (1/2,1/4,1/8,1/16,1/32,1/64,1/128,1/256,1/512,1/1024). If each attempt took 30 seconds, it would have taken him around 8.5 hours.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
That's assuming that each permutation of throws MUST actually occur. This is not the case as 01Epic and BSDist point out that each following flip - or sequence of flips - have nothing to do with previous flips. Theoretically, if you have a 6-sided die, it could take all day to roll any particular number even once.
It's more likely that he rigged it.
Plus, notice how only the first flip is 'real' the others he seems to slide them in.
Sindarin8 2 years ago
I realize that each flip is in no way affected by the last and, yes, theoretically you might not get one side of a di in a thousand rolls. But the probability of that is so low as to be virtually zero. The probability of ten heads flips in a row is exactly how I calculated it.
In fact, someone showed me a clip of the end of the show and that is exactly what he did. It took him 9 hours, I had calculated it would take 8.5. Look at the math I did or try it for yourself.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
I understand what you mean about each flip having the same odds regardless of what has happened before it, that applies to single flips: after he got 9 in a row, the odds of a 10th head will still be 50/50. However, that is the odds of a single flip, not all ten of them.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
And I see what you mean by "assuming each permutation of flips must occur". However, that is not how I calculated it.
You are right it could have happened on his first try or never happened, probability-wise, it would have taken around 1024 tries.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
He could have just done it over and over again if he had the patience... I brute-forced a 4 digit bike lock I forgot the combo to once. However, it'd be a lot simpler to have just lied about it not being a camera trick. :P
SolaceAvatar 2 years ago
People, don't make theories about this before watching the whole System. He explains it later.
789123Y 2 years ago
@dejakhalz: The probability of him hitting 10 in a row on a FAIR coin is 1 out of 2^10.. or 1 out of 1024.
Derren probably used the age-old double-headed coin. Notice how before the first flip lands, the camera cuts away from the "slow-mo" cam to a the split-screen. (The slo-mo is used to suggest that a fair coin is used.)
And then after the 10th flip, the camera cuts to a view of Darren's face. Notice that he didn't pick up the coin after the 10th flip to show that it truly was a fair coin.
forcifer87 2 years ago
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the odds of him getting it heads 10 times in a row would be .50^10, which would equal to 9.765625x10^-4.
Eeeeeeediot 2 years ago
i do this alot...there is probably a 90% chance that if the coin is facing heads up before being tossed,then when it lands it will be heads.the amount of force put in the toss does count.
JDub4607 2 years ago
Haha all you people are so wrong and full of crap. I KNOW how he does it and it is really simple:
He just does it again and again, untill he has 10 time heads in a row. He explained it in the whole show.
dejakhalz 2 years ago
@dejakhalz but then again thats just one way of explainin it...i never said thats how he did it so therefor u sir are full of shit.
JDub4607 2 years ago
You are saying, and I quote: ''I do THIS alot'', mr. full of shit.
dejakhalz 2 years ago
JDub4607, just admit you were wrong and move on.
leejae 2 years ago
@leejae i never said i was right..but you probably cant read so you dont understand
JDub4607 2 years ago
What are you talking about!?! Do you actually think someone can control the outcome of a non-rigged coin toss by putting just the right force on the flip!?
You're kidding right??
jimbrown257 2 years ago
yes thats exactly wat im sayin.....its very possible and anyone can do it....
JDub4607 2 years ago 2
actually there's a study they did, that we learned about it in my phsych class, where with enough practice they got multiple groups of peers to produce heads of 60% of the time.
Although I suspect that if this is a non-trick that Darren is using the curvature of the bowl to get the results he wishes
do0me0nice 2 years ago 2
I knew I had heard about that coin toss experiment; I finally found what I had heard about it.
Search for a video called "James Randi speaks: can't fool me" It's a video about how overconfident experts can decieve themselves. At 5:30 he talks about that experiment, if the one you are talking about is the one from Princeton. He says the controls were flawed. Randi's a pretty trustworthy source on these matters.
jimbrown257 2 years ago
Seeing as he is wearing sleeves it is possible that the first one was on a fair coin and therefore the chance 50/50, but then he switched it to a double headed biased coine where the probability is obviously 100%, because if you watch it you don't so much as get a glimmer of tails.
thedcase 2 years ago
im guessing since he changes it up by hitting the walls and just flicking it in the bowl without hitting the edges, he"s accounting for variable change
appleguy916 2 years ago 2
Does anyone know the song played here? Thanks, AdamsTeinz
AdamsTeinz 2 years ago
So it's all about probability?
SimonXR 2 years ago
watch the whole show guys =)
minnacym 2 years ago
Here's my input. I love magic and do some, and I really like his work. I don't see how this could be edited together, its seamless. The thing I noticed was that there has to be a camera over the bowl. You can't see that camera in the left hand shot, while you would have to see it if the shot on the right was taken at that same time.
notthemjuthink 2 years ago
That's what I was thinking, but I think there's a camera above the line of vision or on the roof, that has zoomed into the bowl.
ESSoulHunter 2 years ago
try reading his body language. He is showing no emotion after finally being successful after doing it for 9 hours
fcukmehrdr 2 years ago 5
LOL!
ArnoldGallagher 2 years ago
ha ha 0:04 java the hut
joehasgottoomuchtime 2 years ago
basically, he filmed this loads and loads of times until he got 10 heads ina row in 1 seemless shot. the system is that you can have so many people 1 will always win if u allow them to bet on each one. its simple but not really al that magical
thatcoulhavebeenfun 2 years ago
The odds of him getting ten heads (or tails) in a row is more than 1,000 to 1.
More likely he's switching coins between flips. Notice how he never lets you see the other side of the coin when he removes it from the bowl--because it has a head on each side.
ClumsyRoot 2 years ago
yeah, the full version is in another video
chakalonzote 2 years ago
fake moustache :o)
transfixedtornado 2 years ago 4
its the control of height and speed
robertwc82 2 years ago
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the chance of that happening from complete luck is 2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2*2
braven1991 2 years ago
wtf...
peanutplant123123 2 years ago
Yes, 1 out of 2^10
leejae 2 years ago
To do this he was try 9 houres. I read about this ^^
Bonusek91 2 years ago
Has anyone ever thought that he might be using a 2 headed coin...?
nevets66s 2 years ago
If you haven't yet, check out the full vid called The System. He'll reveal how it's done in the ending.
Rtv03 2 years ago
Dude, did you not even watch it? You could clearly see both sides.
Maverician 2 years ago
dude there is a 1:3628800 od that happening
peteyandjaydee 2 years ago
actually, it's only 1 in 1024.
sukivan27 2 years ago
no, thats the number of permutations on a set with 10 distinguishable elements, the odds of this happening is 1:2^10 = 1024
linuxx0r 2 years ago
Math fail.
leejae 2 years ago
could just have them dropping it face down? 2 different cameras lol they could just put him flipping it and not matter waht it lands on
blackice240 2 years ago
The coin landing on heads 10 times in a row is as likely as any other possible combination of 10 tosses. Nothing special.
theneonsavior 2 years ago
Wait... What.
3landriel 2 years ago
Since it can either come up heads or tails H-T, a result of TTTT has the same chance of THTH.
theneonsavior 2 years ago