I've always regarded Courtney as a better lyricist than Kurt, and Kurt a better songwriter than Courtney. Courtney I'm sure contributed to Hole's music, but I think she needed help in order to get there. She can effortlessly write really compelling lyrics, but songwriting doesn't seem to come as easy to her. She needs pushed. Kurt probably bit of that. But I think Eric Erlandson contributed heavily to forming the songs as well and writing guitar pieces. I mean, after all, he was in the band.
I think Courtney's lyrics are very well written. I can relate to some stuff, not all. And I listen to Hole when I'm pissed and need Courtney to scream in my honor! :)
Since Courtney has admitted she & Kurt did co-write some songs (I'm not sure she got specific, but she once said in an interview I read that she had collection of cassettes of songs she & Kurt co-wrote). So, I'm open to the notion Kurt had a hand in the music of this song, but the lyrics sound like Courtney speaking, not Kurt. I'm sure the words are all or mostly hers. In fact, Kurt rarely wrote lyrics this good. I think she eclipses him as a lyric writer in this & some other Hole songs.Bravo!
@Bobjb999 and lyrics come to you in the form of a song)) i mena she may have not written the guitar chords...but when you come up with lyrics you also come up with how they should be sung...if someone can write a song but doesnt know guitar riffs but can hear in his head how it should sound does he get the credit for writing a song ?....
@sergsfault not always the case. look at old age. the chord progressions and vocal MELODY are kurt's. when hole did it, courtney put her own lyrics to the existing melody. so no just because you wrote lyrics doesn't automatically mean you wrote the melody.
@MichaelSxe555 for music, sure. vocal melodies? i dunno. another thing i noticed about live through this is how well everything is structured. the dynamics and song forms are perfect. i noticed that about nirvana's music too. not making any assumptions, just something i noticed.
@WAITilikecookies Interesting. But my pet theory's Kurt likely contributed the music, while Courtney probably wrote lyrics. Kurt said music was always no.1 priority for him, with lyrics less important.
These words sound to me like Courtney talking, not Kurt. In fact, I don't think there's a Nirvana song with as many compelling lines in it as this one has. Assuming I'm right about Courtney writing them, maybe that makes her an even better word smith than Kurt!
this shit needs to come back to life instead of this usher,brittney spears, and chris brown shit this music kicks ass i dont what idiots decided to not show this anymore.
i love this version but uhhmmm if ur a fan of her why oh why would u use such an unflattering pic? *confused*...yeah u should of thru some pics of her rokin or something. otherwise i luv de tune....4 *'s
you are honestly basing a person' personality off blogs? which are venting/over exaggerating emotion machines? yea, don't judge ppl. you don't know. it's ridiculous.
Actually she probably contributed to Kurts death. She wanted fame and recognition while Kurt wanted nothing to change and to just be who he was. Her ruthless climb to success contradicted his desire to not be pulled into the spotlight too much. I think she loved him very much though.
Eventually though, the pressures of the fame life got to poor Kurt and he killed himself, knowing that he would almost never fade into obscurity
This song is great live. She changes it every time. You should have used a better picture. This looks like one of those they took when she was all stressed out at the courthouse...
where did you download it?
BallouneGomme 4 months ago
@waitlikecookies yeah, Nevermind that Courtney just had a baby or anything.
roxierage 6 months ago
I got this ep somewhere in this house, but where :D
onbekendeartiest 8 months ago
<3
JaSamVashBog 10 months ago
I've always regarded Courtney as a better lyricist than Kurt, and Kurt a better songwriter than Courtney. Courtney I'm sure contributed to Hole's music, but I think she needed help in order to get there. She can effortlessly write really compelling lyrics, but songwriting doesn't seem to come as easy to her. She needs pushed. Kurt probably bit of that. But I think Eric Erlandson contributed heavily to forming the songs as well and writing guitar pieces. I mean, after all, he was in the band.
youshotandywarhol 10 months ago
I think Courtney's lyrics are very well written. I can relate to some stuff, not all. And I listen to Hole when I'm pissed and need Courtney to scream in my honor! :)
AskAlice24 10 months ago
Since Courtney has admitted she & Kurt did co-write some songs (I'm not sure she got specific, but she once said in an interview I read that she had collection of cassettes of songs she & Kurt co-wrote). So, I'm open to the notion Kurt had a hand in the music of this song, but the lyrics sound like Courtney speaking, not Kurt. I'm sure the words are all or mostly hers. In fact, Kurt rarely wrote lyrics this good. I think she eclipses him as a lyric writer in this & some other Hole songs.Bravo!
Bobjb999 1 year ago
@Bobjb999 and lyrics come to you in the form of a song)) i mena she may have not written the guitar chords...but when you come up with lyrics you also come up with how they should be sung...if someone can write a song but doesnt know guitar riffs but can hear in his head how it should sound does he get the credit for writing a song ?....
sergsfault 1 year ago
@sergsfault I agree. Many lyric writers create their own vocal melody.
Bobjb999 1 year ago
@sergsfault not always the case. look at old age. the chord progressions and vocal MELODY are kurt's. when hole did it, courtney put her own lyrics to the existing melody. so no just because you wrote lyrics doesn't automatically mean you wrote the melody.
roejogan8 8 months ago
@roejogan8 Does no one have faith in Eric Erlandson? I mean really?
MichaelSxe555 8 months ago
@MichaelSxe555 for music, sure. vocal melodies? i dunno. another thing i noticed about live through this is how well everything is structured. the dynamics and song forms are perfect. i noticed that about nirvana's music too. not making any assumptions, just something i noticed.
roejogan8 8 months ago
@MichaelSxe555 he always gets the short end of the stick...
demonbuttercupp 6 months ago
@demonbuttercupp So true!
MichaelSxe555 6 months ago
@roejogan8 Plus Courtney could play okay back then.
MichaelSxe555 8 months ago
@MichaelSxe555 agree. i still think she's pretty good. good enough to still be able to perform the songs live with hole, still.
roejogan8 8 months ago
@Bobjb999 I noticed on Live Through This that there were a lot of references to fetuses and childbirth and milk and stuff like that.
Kurt was fascinated with female sexuality, its easy to guess which songs he had a hand in.
WAITilikecookies 1 year ago
@WAITilikecookies Interesting. But my pet theory's Kurt likely contributed the music, while Courtney probably wrote lyrics. Kurt said music was always no.1 priority for him, with lyrics less important.
These words sound to me like Courtney talking, not Kurt. In fact, I don't think there's a Nirvana song with as many compelling lines in it as this one has. Assuming I'm right about Courtney writing them, maybe that makes her an even better word smith than Kurt!
Bobjb999 1 year ago
oh i forgot how much i love Hole..thanks for the up
helleigna 1 year ago
This is a great song really.
paranel1339 1 year ago
Great song, great band, great era...Thanks for posting.--777
antisocialdemon21 1 year ago
the lyrics on this are better
vinger79 1 year ago
Just sounds like a demo to me...
AMYISRAD 1 year ago
This one's better. :)
It seems much closer to the sound P.O.T.I conveys.
MiffsMedia 2 years ago 2
oh wow awesome how the bass bangs in!
jessmen 2 years ago
Thanks 4 posting this version i have never heard this one 'till now of course , Great song
Ligabueno 2 years ago
It's cool hearing an alternate version of a classic song. I didn't know this existed. Thanks!
pinklotus83 2 years ago 5
Yup. This rocks.
flatheadpower2000 2 years ago
LTT version is still better though, IMO.
waterfilledlungs 2 years ago 2
this shit needs to come back to life instead of this usher,brittney spears, and chris brown shit this music kicks ass i dont what idiots decided to not show this anymore.
Tyler5799 2 years ago 49
a-fucking-men
lakyn86 2 years ago 5
@Tyler5799 hell yeah
musikfanize 1 year ago
@Tyler5799 probably thought it was old fashioned. I like the original version of hole better on my ipod.
inuyashafan1235 1 year ago
i cry everyday knowing that music is dead
R.I.P my love... music
lol
dollparts93 2 years ago 11
Fuck ! this Version ROCKS !!
its Grungier !! hole's the shit !!
rockangel7777 3 years ago 3
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thats gay the song is weird sorry
shadowyl 3 years ago
...and this comment is coming from an anime nerd and MCR fan?! Wow...I'm speechless. Hole rocks. Go listen to some real music. 'nuff said.
Vincrecia 3 years ago 25
lol, agreed. A million ughz to the MCR.
MichaelSxe555 3 years ago
I know dude mcr..what the hell is that all about? Kid needs to listen to some real stuff. :O
Vincrecia 3 years ago 4
LOL hole does rock i like doll parts and this song and so on thems 2 ma favs tho :).
Iamfukenripped 3 years ago 2
MCR?... WTF MCR fan have no RIGHT to comment here!!! Emo-shit poser punk rokers are not worthy to stand near Hole
AKJY 3 years ago 14
haha love it! totally agreed.
Mel0019 2 years ago
No come on, I love Hole and Courtney, but MCRs first album was damn good, they slowly got more poserlike
tammilou92 2 years ago
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well you will be glad to know in russia they have stopd the retarded spead of emoism dead in its tracks hopefully other countrys will follow suit
blazerrips91 2 years ago
how did they achieve that?
Mel0019 2 years ago
russia even managed to ban harry potter :D well but that's just what i heard
DeadStar90 2 years ago 3
like we want to follow any trend started in russia. what next - we become a quasi-moslem state because that suits the UK?
jas22 2 years ago
lol i take back whAt i said at the end of the day people should have the freedom to do as they please
blazerrips91 2 years ago
THIS SONG REALLY F*CKED ME UP! SPEAKS TO THE WORST OF ME... TAKES ME BACK AND i LOVE IT.
rookieru 3 years ago 2
such a good version!
xxautumnslossxx 3 years ago 2
schade das sie junkt.. um das kind
666chriss666 3 years ago
i love this song, but why this picture? lol
xxREM86xx 3 years ago 5
i love this version but uhhmmm if ur a fan of her why oh why would u use such an unflattering pic? *confused*...yeah u should of thru some pics of her rokin or something. otherwise i luv de tune....4 *'s
~*TAKE EVERYTHING*~
adeadgirl 3 years ago 3
I'm a fan of the music, but I don't like her as a person.
MichaelSxe555 3 years ago
thats exactly how i feel. if i was in conversation with her, id probly lose interest and leave. but her music kicks ass.
musikjunkie93 3 years ago
You don't even know her. wtf?
LiLvMisSvHarley 3 years ago
Read her blogs. 'Nuff said.
MichaelSxe555 3 years ago
you are honestly basing a person' personality off blogs? which are venting/over exaggerating emotion machines? yea, don't judge ppl. you don't know. it's ridiculous.
MiyaviXIsXMine 3 years ago 5
courtneytard alert.
eyeofyoursun 3 years ago
Hey, I'm a Courtney Tard too! I love the music ;).
MichaelSxe555 3 years ago
@eyeofyoursun Well I think shes cool... Even though shes a hopeless drug addict and fucked up Kurt Cobain........ ok maybe I should re-evaluate this
AimzWellings 1 year ago
@AimzWellings
Actually she probably contributed to Kurts death. She wanted fame and recognition while Kurt wanted nothing to change and to just be who he was. Her ruthless climb to success contradicted his desire to not be pulled into the spotlight too much. I think she loved him very much though.
Eventually though, the pressures of the fame life got to poor Kurt and he killed himself, knowing that he would almost never fade into obscurity
WAITilikecookies 1 year ago
this version is sweet
stuntbikebabe 3 years ago
This song is great live. She changes it every time. You should have used a better picture. This looks like one of those they took when she was all stressed out at the courthouse...
RoxanneSilver 3 years ago 4
this version is kinda better i think
AngelicNirvana 3 years ago 4
i think so, too
boddahgirl 3 years ago 2
I liked this version.
helikopternspyr 3 years ago 6