See that very first scene, where the guy is standing @ 0:03? Is it true the Aussies would hang you there, in the middle, after locking all the prisoners in their cells?
@alanheath3 Alan, I concur that Bentley WAS a small-time criminal who knew what he was doing and certainly deserved a custodial sentence for the break-in (even if he was uner Craig's influence to an extent). However, he was innocent of MURDER and that's what people are discussing.
@GuildfordGhost I suppose it is a case of being guilty (or not) as charged. I would definitely say he was an accessory but I suspect we are not going to agree on this one!
@GuildfordGhost No it's based on good research a confession by one of the perpetrators, the releases and discovery of documents held inn safe keeping, Abelines diaries and police records, there was also a book about it and I don't remember the Churchill family suing the author about it
@newworldodour As a Ripper author, lecturer and historian of many years I can tell you that this field is absolutely swamped in errors, lies and outright fiction. I can't persuade you otherwise but, trust me, it's a conspiracy theory with absolutely nothing to genuinely back it up.
@newworldodour <- YouTuber then responded with abuse. Post removed and user blocked. Incidentally, I checked the user's channel and indeed it's full of conspiracy nonsense. Let me make this clear : I do not tolerate trolls. Any troll comments get removed and the user gets blocked. I don't spend my time uploading these things to take abusive nonsense from immature inadequates.
good vid pal im in chertsey i must of been there when that was filmed or around that time i was on c wing and e wing was all borded up i remember cos a few pals got transfered when it finally shutc wing was bad enough but at least had a separete toilets whic gave a bit more room then i was back there early 09 it was all done up fresh but still its a grim place its mad that men were riding there bird in there so long ago new prisons such as belmarsh,highdown,bullindon and that are alot different
@cheyennebritbrat Indeed. I saw it from the outside when I went to Oxford Castle a couple of years back and wondered if I'd want to stay there - I think I decided not!
@GuildfordGhost Hello Phillip! I slept in a former concentration camp in July. I was going to sleep in my van in the car park but the security invited me to be nearer the main building should I wish to use the toilets.
@slavehunter999 At a guess, I reckon it will be at The Galleries Of Justice - which is an outstanding museum and worth a trip to Nottingham on its own (I have a clip from it on the Two's Country series uploaded elsewhere on my account).
A shame indeed, but the trap doors was at least salvaged and are now a star attraction at a museum, complete with operational lever. They probably wouldn’t get away with hanging someone for treason these days, but it formally remain as a capital crime that punishment is to be carried out by hanging, drowning,or burning at the stake - so in theory it’s possible to re construct said working gallows.
Its featured on their website, so I guess they still are there along with a noose from Wandsworth and a beam from the last surviving public execution gallows.
For no crime can a person be put to death in the uk now. it was fully banned in 1998
and thats why the gallows was removed from the prison.. good to see thay have been saved. I think the same museum has harry allens case and tools and now the execution box with ropes and hood etc
I thought there remained a somewhat bizarre and antiqued law dealing with high treason against the crown. Upper punishment for said offence involved hanging, castration, disembowelment, and chopping the body in 6 parts - all in rapid succession none the less -before the remains were to be put on display in prominent places across the kingdom. For males at least, as females was to be just burned at the stake to avoid public indecency. Rather unlikely to be carried out in these days, though
@knutgordon no mate all went in 2008. it was treason, piracy at sea or setting a fire in a royal dock yard. we were told that it had to go due to the human rights act.
What i do find strange is it says in the video all but wandsworth were taken out in the 60s however this could well be true as Syd Dernley claimed to have a gallows set up at home after he was sacked.
I was in this shithole in 1986 and it was run by macho fucking morons.The place is full of Rats/Mice/Cockroaches, and it's cold and very damp.The Screws are fair minded they hate everybody,the food is shit and non existant if your landing is the last down on the Weekend.I got one shower in six weeks!!.Also there are some very very nasty villains in there.They ship out to Broardmoor and Rampton.I saw a kid killed because a nutter had been refusing his medication,and he slashed this kids artery.
Ta! But why's there nothing on Evans and Allen 1964 on YT ?
Kelly14UK 1 day ago
See that very first scene, where the guy is standing @ 0:03? Is it true the Aussies would hang you there, in the middle, after locking all the prisoners in their cells?
eg Jean Lee 1951 ( last Aussie woman ).
Kelly14UK 1 day ago
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tentheagle 1 week ago
@tentheagle Why?
GuildfordGhost 1 week ago
I would hardly call Bentley innocent. He knew what he was doing when he went out on a robbery even if I did not pull the trigger himself.
alanheath3 3 months ago
@alanheath3 Alan, I concur that Bentley WAS a small-time criminal who knew what he was doing and certainly deserved a custodial sentence for the break-in (even if he was uner Craig's influence to an extent). However, he was innocent of MURDER and that's what people are discussing.
GuildfordGhost 3 months ago 3
@GuildfordGhost I suppose it is a case of being guilty (or not) as charged. I would definitely say he was an accessory but I suspect we are not going to agree on this one!
alanheath3 3 months ago
@alanheath3 Bentley was mentally retarded so not responsible for his actions.
sail1948 1 month ago
@sail1948 I think this excuse is used too often.
alanheath3 1 month ago
@sail1948 I think this excuse is used too often.
alanheath3 1 month ago
@newworldodour Please tell me you're being sarcastic.
GuildfordGhost 3 months ago
@GuildfordGhost No it's based on good research a confession by one of the perpetrators, the releases and discovery of documents held inn safe keeping, Abelines diaries and police records, there was also a book about it and I don't remember the Churchill family suing the author about it
newworldodour 2 months ago
@newworldodour As a Ripper author, lecturer and historian of many years I can tell you that this field is absolutely swamped in errors, lies and outright fiction. I can't persuade you otherwise but, trust me, it's a conspiracy theory with absolutely nothing to genuinely back it up.
GuildfordGhost 2 months ago
@newworldodour <- YouTuber then responded with abuse. Post removed and user blocked. Incidentally, I checked the user's channel and indeed it's full of conspiracy nonsense. Let me make this clear : I do not tolerate trolls. Any troll comments get removed and the user gets blocked. I don't spend my time uploading these things to take abusive nonsense from immature inadequates.
GuildfordGhost 2 months ago
@GuildfordGhost Quite right. I do this same thing!
alanheath3 1 month ago
I thought Bedford was the last hanging in UK??
newworldodour 3 months ago
@newworldodour Nope. Walton & Strangeways at the same moment in 1964. Wandsworth just had the last working gallows.
GuildfordGhost 3 months ago
they should bring hanging back, the poppy burners should get that penalty, people who abuse children should get it awell
EDL4LYF 3 months ago
@EDL4LYF But the case of Troy Davis in America claims differently
drapermovies 3 months ago
He should of asked how many innocent people were killed there in his opinion . Bet it was a whole lot.:(
dan32749 3 months ago
So them blue doors are the people's rooms????
SOMEBODY Messafe me
Need to ask something
thanks.
xxxMostEnviedGurlxxx 4 months ago
why was he pardon is there no joint venture in the UK?
badgerattoadhall 4 months ago
need to bring capital punishment like this back to set the examples of the scumbags we have today.
unrealharry 5 months ago
@unrealharry Do you mean CONVICTED scumbags ?
TheKenfig 5 months ago
a full posthumous pardon how thoughtful of the british parliament. im sure it brought great comfort to his family. stupid court officials.
dfghjkl1624 6 months ago
thank you for this, guildfordghost. i love watching stuff like this! - keeps me out of mischief! haha
whosesadie 6 months ago
very interesting. txs.
MsNicole6 6 months ago
Very interesting.........Thanks!!
mywheelchairone69 7 months ago
My nan works there =)
iloveGTA123 1 year ago
good vid pal im in chertsey i must of been there when that was filmed or around that time i was on c wing and e wing was all borded up i remember cos a few pals got transfered when it finally shutc wing was bad enough but at least had a separete toilets whic gave a bit more room then i was back there early 09 it was all done up fresh but still its a grim place its mad that men were riding there bird in there so long ago new prisons such as belmarsh,highdown,bullindon and that are alot different
ks1983ish 1 year ago
wormwood scrubs is a fucking shit hole so much fucking heroin and mobiles in there
blackpeople942 1 year ago
oxford jails a hotel now
cheyennebritbrat 1 year ago
@cheyennebritbrat Indeed. I saw it from the outside when I went to Oxford Castle a couple of years back and wondered if I'd want to stay there - I think I decided not!
GuildfordGhost 1 year ago
@GuildfordGhost Hello Phillip! I slept in a former concentration camp in July. I was going to sleep in my van in the car park but the security invited me to be nearer the main building should I wish to use the toilets.
alanheath3 3 months ago
@cheyennebritbrat i know i had a lovely meal there :)
urbanproftw 6 months ago
wish they had left it as is was(Working gallows) just for history.
slavehunter999 1 year ago 11
@slavehunter999 I agree. But they moved the trap itself to a museum in Nottingham, where it stays today.
MatthewBuick 1 year ago
@slavehunter999 where in Nottingham as iam from Derby ??
slavehunter999 1 year ago
@slavehunter999 At a guess, I reckon it will be at The Galleries Of Justice - which is an outstanding museum and worth a trip to Nottingham on its own (I have a clip from it on the Two's Country series uploaded elsewhere on my account).
GuildfordGhost 1 year ago
@slavehunter999
A shame indeed, but the trap doors was at least salvaged and are now a star attraction at a museum, complete with operational lever. They probably wouldn’t get away with hanging someone for treason these days, but it formally remain as a capital crime that punishment is to be carried out by hanging, drowning,or burning at the stake - so in theory it’s possible to re construct said working gallows.
knutgordon 3 weeks ago
@knutgordon
Are they still at Notingham justice place or moved now??
slavehunter999 3 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@slavehunter999
Its featured on their website, so I guess they still are there along with a noose from Wandsworth and a beam from the last surviving public execution gallows.
knutgordon 3 weeks ago
@knutgordon
For no crime can a person be put to death in the uk now. it was fully banned in 1998
and thats why the gallows was removed from the prison.. good to see thay have been saved. I think the same museum has harry allens case and tools and now the execution box with ropes and hood etc
slavehunter999 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
I thought there remained a somewhat bizarre and antiqued law dealing with high treason against the crown. Upper punishment for said offence involved hanging, castration, disembowelment, and chopping the body in 6 parts - all in rapid succession none the less -before the remains were to be put on display in prominent places across the kingdom. For males at least, as females was to be just burned at the stake to avoid public indecency. Rather unlikely to be carried out in these days, though
knutgordon 1 week ago
@knutgordon no mate all went in 2008. it was treason, piracy at sea or setting a fire in a royal dock yard. we were told that it had to go due to the human rights act.
What i do find strange is it says in the video all but wandsworth were taken out in the 60s however this could well be true as Syd Dernley claimed to have a gallows set up at home after he was sacked.
slavehunter999 1 week ago
Fucking horrible !
kenfig 1 year ago
Very interesting video GuildfordGhost
thankyou for uploading.
lightpoacher 2 years ago 3
I was in this shithole in 1986 and it was run by macho fucking morons.The place is full of Rats/Mice/Cockroaches, and it's cold and very damp.The Screws are fair minded they hate everybody,the food is shit and non existant if your landing is the last down on the Weekend.I got one shower in six weeks!!.Also there are some very very nasty villains in there.They ship out to Broardmoor and Rampton.I saw a kid killed because a nutter had been refusing his medication,and he slashed this kids artery.
flanneryged 2 years ago