XK2(南朝鮮)・Leclerc(フランス)・90式戦車(日本)の各MBTの自動装填装置

[lapinschous1]

BASTARD, YOU SLOWED DOWN THE FOOTAGE

[mexicok11]

「安全保障」において「軍事」はあくまでも補助的役割を果たすだ­けであり、主役はいつの時代でも「政治」なんだ

ここを本末転倒すれば、どんな強大な軍事国家でも敗北する、、、­、、ナポレオン戦争のフランスや第二次大戦のナチスドイツやベト­ナム戦争のアメリカや東西冷戦のソ連を見てれば分りそうなもんだ­けど

[mexicok11]

@seirodate

おいおい、何も学んでないな

最後に物を言うのは「数」でも「質」でもない

「政治力」だよ

まさか第二次大戦は「物量」でアメリカに負けたなんて寝言を信じ­てるんじゃなかろうな

それは素人の言い草、もしくは現場レベルの人間の視野狭窄的論理

戦争は常に「政治の暴力的表現」だからね

太平洋戦争は政治的に不利な状況で開戦したその時点で日本の負け­は決定していた

大事なことは「軍事」という表面に囚われることなく、政治的判断­を冷静に的確に遂行しつづけることができるかどうか、だよ

[Hedonist931]

朝鮮 means Chosun Dynasty, I think you guys should learn a bit of history again, oh I forgot, they don't teach history in Japan...lol

[1326593G]

ちょｗ90式の装填速度異常ｗｗｗ

チートすぎるｗｗｗｗｗｗ



[Infinite044]

自分たちの方が強いと言っているやつがここにいる。

↓　↓　↓　↓　↓　↓

Type 90 VS K1A1 で検索。

[bonkare1]

福祉に回せとかいってる自称兵器専門家がいるｗ

[yamashita43]

90式早すぎないか？！　笑

[g6n7m6]

Type90>Leclerc>>>>>XK2

[minmin24680]

日本の新型は道路クレーマー対策に重量は74式と同等、それに装­甲強度は90式以上だそうな

[akatuki123ify]

おせーぞ鮮車ｗ

[skyline987710]

5percent fault rate is terrible for a tank. That is all I know about.Chinese and russian are all below 0.2 percent.

[jetspecies]

日本の機甲戦力はまだ７４式がメインね

９０式は少ないし、新型も多くは作らないでしょ

有事に一番必要な戦車の能力は

稼働率・整備性・補給補修部品の充実度。

マジメに国防考えたら、こんなオモチャ作るより

兵站能力と支援設備を強化して、開発費とか

福祉に回したほうがマシ。どうせ法律で戦争できないんだし

[dltk56]

Type 90 fuxking shit

[RyuseiD4Y2]

朝鮮も中国の手にかかるのは間近だろうから、その時に自慢の真価­が現れる。武器の場合は、有事の時にその威力が発揮されるのだか­ら、家電や乗用車とはわけが違う。兵器・組織・補給が、戦略と戦­術指示を受け止める事ができて、軍隊は機能する。

[Mutyakutyada]

実はヤキマで米軍のＭ１Ａ２にタングステンＡＰＦＳＤＳ弾で誤射­されて

損傷したけれど、パテ盛り塗装で修復可能な損傷で米軍戦車兵驚愕­。

日本の戦車はブリキだから、当てちまって殺したかと青くなってた­そう。

流石にＤＵ弾じゃないけど、あれは反則。

でも、ＲＰＧのＰＧ－７集中射撃喰らうとヤバイと教育されてる。

それで、１０式ではＲＰＧ完全抵抗性を獲得。東欧の反ロシア国か­ら

正規のＲＰＧセットを購入したんだって。よって、オリジナル弾頭­と同様。



[jonnyrosewood]

自動装填が出来るようになったわけだから、

次の開発目標はガトリンク戦車砲だね！

[zclass37]

@tenga3wa10

確かに・・・

餅つきのあの手際の良さみたいな感じですね

[zqdz123]

japanese product is good. very precise。

just see a walkman,a discman,its not hightech,but other country cant make same thing.

[Xmk2123]

@zqdz123 the tank featured here is korean for gods sake...............

[CrimeAvenger4]

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[axaxaxaxaxist]

90式は、なんかロボットみたいだｗ

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina = Unskilled German Language.

Talk about the nobelist in your country.

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina（xxwzaebd）

Please write the same sentences in German Language.

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina There are 80 nobelists in Germany.

In ethnic Korean, there are neither a science nor a culture.

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina =xxwzaebd

Therefore, who is the nobelist in your country?

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina How many Nobel prize did your countries win?

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina You seem not to know Japan is winning Nobel prize of 18.

There is no right said by you "imitation".

[CrimeAvenger4]

@UtdRepsOfChina = xxwzaebd

Congratulations 劉暁波!! China won the Nobel Peace Prize.

We expect China and Korea to win more Nobel prize.

[xxwzaebd]

Yes I guess that's why composite armor is widely used these days. I think it was result from HEAT test.

[xxwzaebd]

Yes such armor survives once or twice then replaced..same with body armor plates. They are much lighter than metal armor,that's their main advantage.

[xxwzaebd]

Such armor must be usually replaced after one hit.Same with body armor trauma plates.

[ARI19BKAN]

日本に上陸出来なきゃ意味ないですやん

韓国さん

[Sucker1313]

南朝鮮？糞クズゴキブリの分際でがよく言うぜ。わが国、大韓民国­にきたらお前なんかのオタク２ｃｈクズ＊（一般の日本人には好き­だ。友達も沢山いる。）どもは一ごろだろうがよｗｗいや、その前­にこのカスは大学は出てるかしら＾－＾；まったく、ネットだとし­て話しほうだいか？

ここのカスどもは今の日本が戦争をして、しかも陸軍のTank対­決とかで韓国に勝てると思うのか？現実逃避してんじゃねーよ。陸­軍、空軍じゃ韓国が上だぼけや。陸軍じゃまず話にもならん。ｗｗ­南朝鮮、下朝鮮とかｗｗｗまじでこの虫どもは踏み殺したいなｗｗ­国家の名前を間違えるなど冒涜と違法の極み！



[TheemaGT]

@Sucker1313

｢陸軍｣の対決となると主に動員数の問題で韓国が有利だろうが、­が。

｢戦車｣の対決では性能差が調達数以上にデカいので日本が勝つ。

ついでに、空軍もF-15KとF-15Jで空戦したらJが勝つぞ­。

[seirodate]

@TheemaGT 最後は数がものを言う事を過去の戦争で学んだはずだ。 自衛隊員・装備・備蓄ともに少なすぎる。 砲撃事件の時、一般市民は平時の訓練通り、 各所のシェルターに非難した。 日本はどうだろう？シェルターってある？ 兵器の性能や練度差だけではね、、、、 国家総動員法でもないと勝てません。 日本は早く無人兵器を大量に配備すべき。 これが急務であり、中国やロシアとのギャップを 埋める唯一の方法だと思うんだ。

[moireabc]

@TheemaGT F-15J も強いけど

日本の空自パイロットの技術は変態級だよ！

冷戦時代は1位アメリカ2位イスラエル3位日本って言われてまし­た。

とりあえず日本の海と空を連携させれば、装備をみても、技能をみ­ても世界トップレベルって事は確実にいえます。

[lordbryson]

i see the speed of the leclerc is slower that usual and lastone is real time at all

[umiomamoru]

圧倒的だな、我が軍は。

[CrimeAvenger2]

日本に何一つ工業製品で上回っているモノは無いのに、自国の兵器­の方が上だと思い込んでいる、朝鮮人とか、中国人とか、どうしよ­うもねえな。白人連中も白人の製品の方が上だと思い込んでいるか­ら、南朝鮮のルクレールモドキや、中国のT-72モドキの方が性­能が上だと思い込んでいやがる。いっぺんPKOで、冷戦思想のク­ズ戦車共を、10式で叩き潰して見せつけるべきだな。

[Stmathew1]

姦国人乙

[TheDainiponteikoku]

The product made in Japan is the best！！

The product made in Korea is full of imitations

[nekoneko1963]

え？　『南朝鮮』が気に入らない？

なら『下朝鮮』でもいいよ

[nekoneko1963]

油気圧サスは日本のマネ　自動装填はフランスのマネ　どうせ車体はクライスラーでエンジンはベンツだろ

[whiteangel0004]

新型戦車の自動装填装置は今の９０式のよりも早く装填出来ること­をねがうｗｗｗ

[1221Kyra]

plz don't name korea to '南朝鮮' if you don't think about korea as colony of your nation..using of this name is very threatening to korean.

[ioi272]

Do you really know kanji?

南 = south

朝鮮 = Korea

Nothing matter with it.

[xxwzaebd]

In Korea, using the word "Namjosun" means collaborating with North Korea.

[arstriker]

I dont know much about Merkava4, but as i said sloped armor is not useful for APFSDS. Maybe, it's for HEAT or RPG or small arms.

[arstriker]

Type90 is one of the tanks with the highest shooting accuracy. It's proved at the Yakima training field in the US.

And I dont think K2 has a better armor than 90. I have seen a video of K2's bullet-proof exam. It endured, but the armor seemed broken. That wouldn't be endured by the next bullet.

Maybe, 90 can resist several hit.

[arstriker]

APFSDF is a KE weapon which is adopted by all modern tank. APFSDF is hardly deflected even if it will hit the armour in any angle. So the sloped armour is not useful for APFSDF.

And the composite armour can resist both of KE and HEAT.

[arstriker]

The hit angle isn't important for APFSDF. Even if it's vertical, even if the angle is on, it's insignificant. The angled armour of leo2a5 is only protecting main vertical armour from small arms.

[sunni341]

It is true that k2's auto loader is derived from the leclercs

did you know that the japanese t-90 is the most ineffective tank in the world for its fuckin high price of 7.4million

its defence, mobility, penetration power isnt even comparable to k2

the k2 is a 3.5 generation tank and the t-90 is a 3rd generation tank how can they be comparable?

[arstriker]

90 is an old tank, but there are many points that excel more than K2, the shooting accuracy, armour, mobility.

If you're wise enough, you can understand by a few investigations.

And this movie is only comparing auto loader of each tank's. Clearly, the charge rate of K2 is inferior than 90.

[DRsolochu]

Oh...Please shut up. This animation is full of false. and, one of false is compare XK2 with Type 90.

Type 90 must compare with K-1. Both Type 90 and K-1 are third generation MBT. and Their performance are equality.

Japanese. If you want compare Japan and Korea, compare your Navy with their Navy. or you will get only earnest desire.

[sukhoiish]

fantastic japs masturbation.

[goldenmunt]

zapanese TTank Namba ONE!!!

[12ock]

oooh i wish the third world war would be on space and build robots instead of tanks and stuffs its old and very classic something new

[SAMURAIHEARTX3]

キムチタンク→カス。鉄の無駄。

仏の戦車⇒まぁいいせんいってるんじゃない？

９０式戦車⇒世界最強。てか日本最強

[t13273356]

二匹火病しててウケルｗｗｗ

[wangkon936]

The Koreans have already admitted that the XK2's autoloader is based on the Leclerc's. They copied it with authorization from the French company that makes it. Hey, saves on development costs. Smart.

[picpic1903]

ugly korean. dont Hwabyung lol

[sunyerang]

K-2, Leclerc--Rate of fire: 12 rounds/min

TYPE 90--Rate of fire: ? rounds/min

[deathstrike44]

1 round in 4 sec

[sunyerang]

TYPE 90--JM-33 120mm APFSDS--550 mm/ 2 km

K1A1--K-276 120mm APFSDS--700mm at 1km--670mm at 2km (2004)

K1A1, K-2 could not be penetrated from TYPE 90 (JM-33)

[bouya11111]

これらのシステムは時代遅れです

世間はもう新たな段階に進んでいます

[SuperTaeyoung]

事実を一歩踏み込んで

[bouya11111]

これらの戦車より

おれのバズーカ砲の方が高速だ

[3ojg]

キュウマルハエ～

[miritetsu]

装填終了後、操作しなくても自動で装填前の諸元に合わせた射角を­とります。

[SuperTaeyoung]

I want you that write English

[sunyerang]

K-2, Leclerc--Rate of fire: 12 rounds/min

TYPE 90--Rate of fire: ? rounds/min

[sunyerang]

K-2, Leclerc--Rate of fire: 12 rounds/min

TYPE 90--Rate of fire: ? rounds/min

[JPNExchangeOperation]

どんな戦車でも装填時はそうなんじゃないの？

[JPNExchangeOperation]

フランスと韓国は3.5世代戦車

90式は3世代戦車です。

日本製は昔の時点で世界の先を行ってます。

[nekomaru22]

フランスから導入してる、それでも自国開発と言ってるから笑う。­

[gogomonta]

Japanese technology is an original one.

The next generation tankman will be for counter-terrorism measures, and miniature seems developed. It would also be better to advance technology for a Chinese threat now.

[chenjenhung]

japan type 90 more fast

[xxxxxCCCPxxxxx]

これ映像遅くしてるわけじゃないですよね・・・？

90式早いな・・・。

[hanzyhanzo42]

XK2とLeclercは、弾を込める時間がほとんど同じだけど­、90式戦車はそれらより一秒位速いね。この差は、実戦で大きな­差になるかも。

[dkvhffhs972]

장전보단 장갑을 뚫을수 있느냐 없느냐 아닌가.

[CrimeAvenger2]

フランスのシトロエンとかプジョー見てみろよ。しょっちゅう故障­するだろ。

この給弾装置見てもガチャガチャガタガタいかにも故障しそうな感­じだな。

[ellerykentarosu2gou]

あのフランスの戦車、外観はかっこいいんですけどね・・・

あの映像で少し幻滅です・・・

[colt8583]

９０式は旧式のように思えるが、射撃の命中精度の高さは世界でも­有名なほどである事。

[TYPE332]

90式のがカッコイイな

[Fjohnny]

so, what? you chinese.

[yama6633]

日本の新戦車は更に性能が良い事でしょう。

[Zerga2000]

Mmmmh very nice but...you know the french were the first in the whole world who get this technologie(since 17 years now)...and there will be the new version of the LECLERC, with electro-magnetic canon ,a new way to recharge it with a new architect mecanic(faster than the japanese tank)using the same system of the sniper rifle(semi-auto)in the magasin. for 2011...

[masyu19920811]

中国、韓国に言わせてもらう。自衛隊、そして日本をなめるな­

[mrktkn]

再生スピードがわからないしねえ

[GoldenZipangu28]

Japan as NO.1!

[flq58]

90式彈藥採用日本自製自動裝彈機，惟此裝彈機在90式服役一直­以來富 有爭議故障率偏高；戰場耐用性有疑問，且在18發砲彈打完後人員­必須冒險到車外進行30分鐘以上的裝彈作業，此時戰車必須停在定­ 點，暫時失去所有作戰能力，等於無法行進間裝彈此點還遜於諸多傳 統戰車。

[yogiudo]

True, but by experimenting with new technology, one expects to discover problems and learn the solutions. And by having the solutions, one can create a newer version of the tank which does not possess such "kinks".

If this was not true, we would all still use swords and horses.

[democracyplease]

i don't understand why there are people trying to compare tkx with xk2, cause you guys just sound like bunch of war freaks.

if you want to invade south korea, go ahead. japanese "self-defense force" can't do anything without US military supervision. all their operations are meant to be carried out with US military. so don't even fuck about TKx or whatever bullshit you are tryin to pull, cause it ain't gonna work

[yama6633]

TK-Xの性能は世界最高レベルですね。支那と韓国の糞戦車とは­比べ物になりません。

The performance of TK-X is the world's best level. I am not a success in comparison with China and the Korean feces tank.

[drgentlewolf]

Did you understand what I wrote in japanese?

why not use yahoo translater(japanese→korea or English) Study more about your own history in 19th century~20th.

[steeleagle94]

hmm I don't get what ur saying...

Histroy has proven what?

Google translator doesn't work ver well.

Could you please write it out in english plz?

[drgentlewolf]

朝鮮人は妄言が大好きだから言わせておきましょう。

でも、いざとなると慌てて、助けを求めます。

歴史が証明してます

[YOSHINORI999]

south korean hyundai ponny use Mitsubishi Auto Industrys engine.

Mitsubishi is Type 90s munufacturer.

The Japanese tanks use superior diesel engine,

so Americans want joint constract next generation diesel tank engine with Japanese.

[democracyplease]

why are you talking about ponny? it's like 60's car. and everyone knows hyundai got help from mitsubishi.

by the way xk2 uses german diesel engine. not american or japanese.

[steeleagle94]

We'll be replacing that engine with a Korean one after a few months into production or something like that. I'm just leeting you know man. Sigh... , I can't believe what these Japanese people are asying here. They really sound like war freaks, if any koreans acted that way too than I apologize on behalf of the Koreans.

[Kadrun]

Here's something that can enlight some pathetic Japanese...

"The autoloading can reload in around two seconds, and the practical auto-loading and firing cycle for one target will be around 4-6 seconds."

actual reload and fire for Type 90 = 4~6 sec...

[usjpmichael]

so how bout yo "pathetic " korean "beautiful" tank? 6~8sec?

[NARI2033]

cantouchへ

お前やっぱりバカだ

[Jieitai91]

What is your point?