@Osmodaful Why did microsoft even make a console, you can use the 360 controller for your pc, and then the kinect easily, people really don't know that you can buy a pcs for 400 dollars that's already cheaper than the 360
Zamato's reference to metacritic was just an authority as well as just a faulty source that was used. Opinions are not facts, but I am sure he knows this now.
im tired of wii fanboy fuckers saying that the conduit is better than halo 3 and killzone 2! most of those fagots never played any 360/ps3 games so why the fuck are they even attempting to compare a shitty game with a million glitches/hackers to good games like halo 3/killzone2. ive played the conduit and halo 3/killzone and i can tell u this.
U WILL LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN DUMBASS IF U SAY THE CONDUIT IS BETTER THAN KILLZONE/HALO!
JUST FUCKIN EXCEPT IT! HALO 3 IS BETTER! KILLZONE 2 IS BETTER!
@MS57KB its his fucking opinon get a life, kill zone is just a copy of halo BUT DARKER ZOMG! :O same for gears a war and i think metroid prime 3 is better than both. Don't call me a fanboy because I have a xbox360 so you the ''FUCKIN DUMBASS'' have a nice day :P
@luigifan1100 what the Fuck are u talkin about! I NEVER said u were a fanboy and i WASN'T talkin about this guy's fuckin opinion at all! everything u just said does not apply to ANYTHING I said:O
i didnt say shit about gears of war and metroid i was talkin about THE CONDUIT and HALO 3/ KILLZONE2
LEARN TO READ BEFORE MAKING BLIND FUCKIN JUDGMENTS
*FUCKIN DUMBASS*
fuck balls like u will never make it in life if you just start sayin random shit to people.
@MS57KB yes I know about your comment but you just said halo 3 and killzone2 is better than the conduit that made me pissed off think, if you don't like the conduit thats fine but that comment made you look like a fanboy most poeple that review the game gave it a damn good score Ex: ign 8.6 so yea.. overall if you did like the game thats fine but don't just say its a shitty game because most poeple like it. and i like metriod prime 3 better than all 3 of the games.
@luigifan1100 well im sorry if i offended u but i am tired of the conduit fanboys that never played halo 3 haten on halo 3/killzone. they say stupid shit and make up false facts about them. i never said the conduit was a bad game i just meant that a game like the conduit really cant compete to a major league game like halo 3.
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super smash bros melee is considered to be a better game than SSBB now and i can see why more hardcore gamers feel that way.
@MS57KB to be honest I HATE fanboys these days the console wars are pontless now a days can't we just agree all console it are great but just have flaws?
one more think why do everyone think melee is better than brawl?( well out of the 3 I only played was 64 and braw.l)
@LuparaG4mer Actually, that's wrong. The only online gc game was Phantasy Star Online. The ones you stated used the online adapters for LAN, so up to 8 total players could play locally.
i"m a Nintendo fan and even I have to agree, it's so fucking pointless to argue over this trivial bullshit. The above poster is right... this is an example of a no lifer.
Didn't you listen? Press-averages are POSTED on IGN. But they're an average of EVERY sites scores........ If they're all in the same general scoring range, they give you a pretty accurate opinion.
Listen you dick the Wii cant get better it is stuck where its at in the next 5 months what new games will you be receiveing OHH ANOTHER FUCKING MARIO GAME NICE !!!!!!!!!!
And you are just a troll MrYup1234! Should I feed you troll! How about some constructive criticism for dinner, then finish off with some proof for dessert?
your numbers are opinions too. keep that in mind. It may be a statistic but its a statistic based on opinions. This is why console wars get nowhere. Everywhere you turn facts are based on opinions. Also just as a side note. When a game is rated for a console w/out a seperate platform counterpart. such as PS3 and 360 having the same game, that is based on the console. Wii game ratings are rated upon the expectations of the Wii itself. I'm not trying to start shit just checking you r aware of this
That's not true. If the games were rated on the "poor expectations" you say the Wii has, then how come there's some Wii games higher rated than some PS3 and 360 games?
I know that they're opinions. But at least I'm using press-averages where they make sense. I'm not gonna use scores on games that get mixed reviews, but if they're all pretty much saying the same thing, I don't see why you can't use 'em.
ok based on your question you missed the point i was trying to make. I said that for example a wii game rated higher than 360 game, the wii is based on the wii capabilities, therefore in essence allowing for a 360 or ps3 game to score extremely high on the wii scale. There are different scales for the wii and the 360 &ps3. yes i realize there technically isn't supposed to be but there is, subconsiously maybe. Maybe that will help you understand what i''m trying to explain.
I play all consoles, and I can honestly say that there are Wii games out there deserving a score higher than some 360/PS3 games. NOTE: I'm NOT saying the Wii is better. I'm just saying it's a good console.
And again, if what you say about the Wii's games is true, there wouldn't be any Wii games higher rated than any PS3/360/PC games.
ok let me try this one last time because you are still missing the point. Wii games rated higher than 360 and ps3 games is irrelevant. The Wii rating scale is different than the 360/PS3 scale. You keep ignoring that point. Just saying.
You are fucking retarded! You are trying to compare some shit ass motion sensor shit console's games to a ps3? When they say 9.5 out of 10 for a wii game, that is just in general. Not an overall comparison to other games fucktard. A 9.5 on a wii game is like a 6.7 for a ps3/xbox game. Get your facts straight. Ps3 kicks ass! (360 too!)
Also I would like to add that when we did the wii is a gamecube, only repackaged. You started going on as software. We meant that the wii has almost the exact same hardware. Hardware not software. Many of your statemeants are extremely flawed, like you say Zamato's statements are. I find you making more incorrect statements than he has done in his video.
ya dude it was funny how the guy only used 1 review game site wii has good games call of duty modern warfare reflex got a greeat score and it was reallly a hardcore game for wii i have it
Well, they actually do average out scores of all the sites, but they distort bigger name websites, which is BS. If I want to know how good a game is, I don't care how big their website is. That's why I use press-averages. They're more fair.
Frankly, the console wars are no different than, and I'm sure this reference will go over these children's heads, no different than the classic battle for Arrakis.The PC holds sway over all gaming ever, all games come from the PC, and all games can, one way or another, be played on the PC. Games can be changed for added flavor most easily on the PC regardless of orgin. How many Mario ROMhacks were made on the SNES? None.
PC was originally invented for storing and sending data (such as files or programs), in other words, work.
Yes, there are PCs built from they ground up for gaming, but they still share the same use they were originally built for and still are meant for that purpose by many people. Work.
I can download games on my school PC. Does that make it a console?
Oh, and if you define work as "targeting calculations for artillery", then you're on the money on why computers were created. If you think productivity apps were the original use for computers, you're off. By decades. Productivity apps originated in the early 90s, "reviving" the PC industry. The Internet revived it again in the mid to late 90s, and now the PC seems to have reached a coasting point, and now it's merely a case of which OS to use, be it 7, OSX, any *nix, or older OSes.
Metacritic - Average score of a bunch of critics and takes past reviews into consideration. They even say so themselves that the review scores are calculated a little differently.
PAs - Average of EVERY website. EVERYONE'S opinion. No extortions on bigger websites.
Cool story bro. It's still an averaging system, which contains at least 50 sources per game. Any less and even Meta admits it's worthless. PA and MC are equally good, end of story. P.S. GIGO.
Fair? We're discussing a rankings system, and fair is your requirement? You'd honestly take something brand new and full of amateur reviewers whom have only gamed since 2000 as seriously as Rotten Tomatoes?
No, I'm just saying there's a difference because they distort certain website's scores. Not really a fair comparison. And yes. Being fair does matter. Think of it as the console war itself. You compare the consoles by realizing both the pros and cons.
In that sense, PCs will always be the best console. They can play every game, and have the best graphics and sound. THAT, is irrefutable.
And I'll stop you right there, emulators. Everything begins and ends with the PC.
The only disadvantage is cost. But some little bastard mouthed off that money shouldn't be an issue to a "true gamer". I haven't the faintest idea who that was, but they're just soaking up the No True Scotsman fallacies.
The entire video game industry, as with the music and movie industry, is an entirely subjective market based on the current "tastes".
There is nothing "irrefutable" about a market system. It's simple economics, Half-Life is great now, but if FPSes suddenly fall out of favor, guess what happens? Do a little critical thinking. In fact, finish economics in high school before you even talk about the free market.
He needs to play The Conduit. That games control is PERFECT! My only complaint on the Wii is the awesome franchises like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart have been noobed up for casual gamers -_-
No. Nexuiz is the best FPS. Nexiuz has perfect control. Don't make me google that for you either. Nexuiz is a major mod of Quake 3, which also gets the same award. Note the platform these games are on (ignoring the Dreamcast for a second). P.C.
That's right.
Don't even suggest that the Wii's controls for an FPS outdo a PC.
That also goes double for an RTS, (Starcraft versus Battalion Wars II, the end)
What are you talking about? There is no proof that Mario Kart Wii or Super Smash Bros Brawl have been "noobed". They have been refined to better balance. No more snaking in Mario Kart, coz that's cheating/cheap skill to beat your opponents (they should never have included the bullet bill either. I agree with that)
Super Smash Bros Brawl...eliminated wave-dashing, a shitty excuse for cheap tactical dodging. Learn to dodge and fight like a man/woman.
Dude...those games are far from balanced. Brawl didn't balance it out more...in Brawl we all know Metaknight DESTROYS everybody while in Melee, there's SEVEN top characters. And MK Wii's items are so unbalanced it's ridicules. When a Melee smasher complains about Brawl being noobed Brawl people always respond saying that the removal of wavedashing is no big deal...that was ONE thing! The removal of wavedashing isn't why people hate Brawl. There's alot more "noobish "changes and too many to list.
Metaknight is not the only good character. Mario, Luigi, Ike, Yoshi, Kirby, Mr.Game and Watch, ZELDA, Captain Falcon and DK are top fighters. So you obviously can only play with Metaknight, which explains why you only think he is good. I have used ALL the characters, and have established that the only crappy character is Jigglypuff, nearly completely downgraded from Melee. THAT'S IT!
Mario Kart Wii offers better challenge for people to LEARN to OVERCOME THE WORST OF SITUATIONS! THAT'S SKILL!
I never said that you did say that. Oh and do you now? then why are you even defending it? Besides, I'm not in the mood to watch an ignorant nazi hate on Zamato Elite.
Because it's the one most people rip on and underestimate.
For example, you said the Wii graphics fail. The Wii can output 4 times the graphics of the origional XBox. If you don't believe me, look it up. XBox = 125 milllion PPS, Wii = 500 milllion PPS.
It's just harder to do on the Wii because the Wii isn't provided with its own graphics engine. Therefor, it's harder and time consuming to do.
There's MANY articles saying the Wii CAN output 360-like graphics.
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1. NO SHIT THE WII GRAPHICS ARE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL XBOX's! Ever heard of technology? XBOX is last generation, and the wii can barely exceed the xbox's expectations.
2. About graphics engines, maybe the wii should have thought about that and fixed that instead of producing *coughCOD4Wiiwhichis2yearslateandothershittygameslikeSSBBandothergamesthatmusthaveMARIOinit*
1. BAERLY exceed the Xbox graphics? Have you played Metroid Prime 3? Or Super Mario Galaxy? Not to mention the fact that the Wii is capable of outputting 4 times the XBox's graphics. There's plenty of articles on the Wii saying it can output 360-like graphics. So you fail.
2. There's plenty of Wii games that don't have Mario in it that are just as good. I already addressed this, but you guys are just ignorant. Face the facts. The Wii has games.
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Dude u only talk about articles, u never show real footage of comparisons. So ur just the messenger boy of some stupid ass site saying that wii games can output 360 graphics. WHICH THEY CANT.
And Wii games: I have a Wii. I HAVE played MP3. But they just aren't good enough to compare to 360/ps3 graphics.
I don't need to "compare footage". There's plenty of things you can compare without having to show footage. Controls, story, etc.
Is that all that matters? Graphics? If you were a real gamer you could care less what the game looks like. Hell, I still play my SNES and PS1. Tell me, do they compare AT ALL graphics-wise with the current gen consoles?
Yes, you want the game to look presentable. But better graphics don't always make a better game. You fail, my friend.
Yeah, PS3 hardware wise and software wise is better than the Wii. Yet I like my Wii more because of the type of software I prefer. Wii has the most platformers, which is my favorite genre.
yup the guy at gamestop liked it i bought it i thought it was easy and not really good at all. i just wish the wii had better games so i can use it more
No, PC isn't better then the consoles because there are models that are worst then a PS2. If you're gonna say that then you need a brand or model of PC, not just say PC>Consoles because that is false.
Yes I have. Only thing in gaming PC has over consoles is FPS and RTS which the Wii can do just as well. Other then those the PC doesn't add anything. Now talking machines, PC can not claim to be better then the consoles because of the reasons I already stated.
PC has best FPS and RTS rofl. Best controls too. And over consoles is, frames per second, resolution, GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS, and I almost forgot to mention GRAPHICS, then theres physics, interactivity, and special effects. This is all facts bro, no offense or trouble. It's facts. On PC, you can play games in 3D. Like there's a 3D mode with recent games to PLAY in 3D with glasses on (not those red and blue ones either). Also better online because theres less hackers and more efficient servers.
I agree with you completely that the PC is superior to consoles, however, there are many more hackers on PC games then on PS3/360. I'm not even going to include the wii.
I can promise you there are less hackers. Just because its PC doesnt mean theres more hackers. It's a myth. Look, I want you to got play online games on PC and see for yourself. There's this thing called punkbuster. It PREVENTS and KICKS hackers. Even if the only so few hackers get through, the server console will kick them. And if they bypass console, that admins will remove them. I mean on PS3 COD4 you catch people inside walls and flying. But on PC, NO HACKERS. They arer kicked at entry.
well, you can't blame them for hating wii. I mean, I dislike the wii, because I can only get ONE console a generation (which sucks), and I chose wii. Many people are in the same situation. Some can't afford next gen consoles or gaming PCs. So realizing the wii isn't what they truly want, they have a reason to get mad. Don't get me wrong, wii is good, but theres only A FEW games great on it. Too much shovelware makes it bad, and thats why I don't like it. I built a gaming PC so Im happy lol :P
srry man but my wii is like....untouched for about a year lol :P
I mean if there were a lot of great games I should be busy playin the wii every day but uhh....that, unfortunately, is not the case. Don't get me wrong, its a good system, but too much "shovelware" lol. I guess I'll have to wait 2010 for Metroid Other M. It's the only game im looking forward to on wii lol :P
Thats your fault xD , I'm currently playing Metroid Prime Trilogy, Muramasa and about to get Extraction. I don't lnow about you, but you're missing out a lot
Metroid Other M, Mario Galaxy 2, New Zelda, Red Steel 2.....I know whats coming out bro lol :P
I just prefer the OTHER games on the next gen systems and pc. I will want Metroid Other M though. Maybe the New Zelda too, but I heard its going to be way different so idk. Metroid and Zelda are probably the only reasons why I have wii.
Also dude, reviews from critics doesn't really matter these days. They were good back in the day, but now, IMO, they overrate and underrate.
Yup, at the same date as MW2. All of the perks, maps and modes are all there. Also you can cutomize controls. The only things are sacrificed are hd graphics (it looks pretty good) , offline multiplayer and a few number of players (there are 10).
Why doesn't the 360 have a web browser
hirosese 2 months ago
@hirosese idk but it would be cool
Osmodaful 3 weeks ago
@Osmodaful Why did microsoft even make a console, you can use the 360 controller for your pc, and then the kinect easily, people really don't know that you can buy a pcs for 400 dollars that's already cheaper than the 360
hirosese 3 weeks ago
you cant compare the scores because Wii games are held to a much lower standard
DevastatorsPissed1 4 months ago
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you are the biggest dumb cunt
gamerr1999 7 months ago
Zamato's reference to metacritic was just an authority as well as just a faulty source that was used. Opinions are not facts, but I am sure he knows this now.
Swampymcswamp 1 year ago
I view Gamespot, Gamepro and IGN for game reviews.
Neoguest 1 year ago
You're correct. Press averages are one of the best ways to go.
loopybqr 1 year ago
im tired of wii fanboy fuckers saying that the conduit is better than halo 3 and killzone 2! most of those fagots never played any 360/ps3 games so why the fuck are they even attempting to compare a shitty game with a million glitches/hackers to good games like halo 3/killzone2. ive played the conduit and halo 3/killzone and i can tell u this.
U WILL LOOK LIKE A FUCKIN DUMBASS IF U SAY THE CONDUIT IS BETTER THAN KILLZONE/HALO!
JUST FUCKIN EXCEPT IT! HALO 3 IS BETTER! KILLZONE 2 IS BETTER!
MS57KB 1 year ago
@MS57KB its his fucking opinon get a life, kill zone is just a copy of halo BUT DARKER ZOMG! :O same for gears a war and i think metroid prime 3 is better than both. Don't call me a fanboy because I have a xbox360 so you the ''FUCKIN DUMBASS'' have a nice day :P
luigifan1100 1 year ago
@luigifan1100 what the Fuck are u talkin about! I NEVER said u were a fanboy and i WASN'T talkin about this guy's fuckin opinion at all! everything u just said does not apply to ANYTHING I said:O
i didnt say shit about gears of war and metroid i was talkin about THE CONDUIT and HALO 3/ KILLZONE2
LEARN TO READ BEFORE MAKING BLIND FUCKIN JUDGMENTS
*FUCKIN DUMBASS*
fuck balls like u will never make it in life if you just start sayin random shit to people.
READ my previous comment AGAIN then post
MS57KB 1 year ago
@MS57KB yes I know about your comment but you just said halo 3 and killzone2 is better than the conduit that made me pissed off think, if you don't like the conduit thats fine but that comment made you look like a fanboy most poeple that review the game gave it a damn good score Ex: ign 8.6 so yea.. overall if you did like the game thats fine but don't just say its a shitty game because most poeple like it. and i like metriod prime 3 better than all 3 of the games.
luigifan1100 1 year ago
@luigifan1100 well im sorry if i offended u but i am tired of the conduit fanboys that never played halo 3 haten on halo 3/killzone. they say stupid shit and make up false facts about them. i never said the conduit was a bad game i just meant that a game like the conduit really cant compete to a major league game like halo 3.
(off topic)
super smash bros melee is considered to be a better game than SSBB now and i can see why more hardcore gamers feel that way.
i like metroid prime 3
MS57KB 1 year ago
@MS57KB to be honest I HATE fanboys these days the console wars are pontless now a days can't we just agree all console it are great but just have flaws?
one more think why do everyone think melee is better than brawl?( well out of the 3 I only played was 64 and braw.l)
luigifan1100 1 year ago
y dont u just go suck the wii's dick
JMRabil675 1 year ago
your a wiitarded noob
joestein79 1 year ago
You're a stubborn fanboy...
LuparaG4mer 1 year ago
GC had online? What games?
SmoothiesHD 2 years ago
Mario Kart Double Dash, Kirby Air Ride, and a few others.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
@LuparaG4mer Actually, that's wrong. The only online gc game was Phantasy Star Online. The ones you stated used the online adapters for LAN, so up to 8 total players could play locally.
abehammy 1 year ago
@abehammy
Yes, that's true. My bad. Still doesn't defeat my argument, but thanks for the info.
LuparaG4mer 1 year ago
who the hell gives a fuck man? get over it and fucking play what youve got! its only a fucking game console!
i cant believe you people fight about this shit.
no offence but this is a perfect example of no-life.
dont bother replying cos im not gonna reply back
username13245100 2 years ago
i"m a Nintendo fan and even I have to agree, it's so fucking pointless to argue over this trivial bullshit. The above poster is right... this is an example of a no lifer.
nintendofanboy31 2 years ago
How is this an example of a no-lifer? I haven't posted a video in weeks... Why? Because I HAVE a life. I just do this in my spare time.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
@chiefjango
Didn't you listen? Press-averages are POSTED on IGN. But they're an average of EVERY sites scores........ If they're all in the same general scoring range, they give you a pretty accurate opinion.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Dude, you have some of the WORST Trolls! lol
Ketorulz 2 years ago
Wow, you fucked up within the first 43 seconds.
ant1i0n 2 years ago
@ant1i0n How so?
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
He explains why he uses press averages in the video, obviously you didn't watch the whole thing.
ant1i0n 2 years ago
i agree with Zamato
XxsamoilarxX 2 years ago
And you have Few good games
oXSkYzLiMiTXo 2 years ago
Listen you dick the Wii cant get better it is stuck where its at in the next 5 months what new games will you be receiveing OHH ANOTHER FUCKING MARIO GAME NICE !!!!!!!!!!
oXSkYzLiMiTXo 2 years ago
Guess what? The 360 is getting YET ANOTHER HALO GAME! At least Mario is a flexible and dynamic franchise.
Few good games? I listed several... So.... Yeah...
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
no one cares what you have to fucking say wii sucks
MrYup1234 2 years ago
In your opinion, you can say that.... But you can't actually prove to me that it does. Until you can, STFU.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
And you are just a troll MrYup1234! Should I feed you troll! How about some constructive criticism for dinner, then finish off with some proof for dessert?
Ketorulz 2 years ago
Why did zamato elite shut up now? xD Or why didn`t he comment on this video? xD
Amirkopp 2 years ago
He did, but me and him debating completely devoured the comments so I took 'em off.
He said he's done with this argument for now.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
So that means you owned him? xD That`s why he isn`t making any new Wii vids.
Amirkopp 2 years ago
I owned him, yes. :)
But he's a cool guy, really. We talk every now and then. We even subbed each other.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
your numbers are opinions too. keep that in mind. It may be a statistic but its a statistic based on opinions. This is why console wars get nowhere. Everywhere you turn facts are based on opinions. Also just as a side note. When a game is rated for a console w/out a seperate platform counterpart. such as PS3 and 360 having the same game, that is based on the console. Wii game ratings are rated upon the expectations of the Wii itself. I'm not trying to start shit just checking you r aware of this
killinger9013 2 years ago
That's not true. If the games were rated on the "poor expectations" you say the Wii has, then how come there's some Wii games higher rated than some PS3 and 360 games?
I know that they're opinions. But at least I'm using press-averages where they make sense. I'm not gonna use scores on games that get mixed reviews, but if they're all pretty much saying the same thing, I don't see why you can't use 'em.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
ok based on your question you missed the point i was trying to make. I said that for example a wii game rated higher than 360 game, the wii is based on the wii capabilities, therefore in essence allowing for a 360 or ps3 game to score extremely high on the wii scale. There are different scales for the wii and the 360 &ps3. yes i realize there technically isn't supposed to be but there is, subconsiously maybe. Maybe that will help you understand what i''m trying to explain.
killinger9013 2 years ago
I play all consoles, and I can honestly say that there are Wii games out there deserving a score higher than some 360/PS3 games. NOTE: I'm NOT saying the Wii is better. I'm just saying it's a good console.
And again, if what you say about the Wii's games is true, there wouldn't be any Wii games higher rated than any PS3/360/PC games.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
ok let me try this one last time because you are still missing the point. Wii games rated higher than 360 and ps3 games is irrelevant. The Wii rating scale is different than the 360/PS3 scale. You keep ignoring that point. Just saying.
killinger9013 2 years ago
I'm not missing nor am I ignoring that point.
It's just not valid. If Wii games were on a lower scales, there wouldn't be ANY Wii games better than ANY 360/PS3/PC games.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
You are fucking retarded! You are trying to compare some shit ass motion sensor shit console's games to a ps3? When they say 9.5 out of 10 for a wii game, that is just in general. Not an overall comparison to other games fucktard. A 9.5 on a wii game is like a 6.7 for a ps3/xbox game. Get your facts straight. Ps3 kicks ass! (360 too!)
bigpig1900 2 years ago
If that were true, there wouldn't be ANY Wii games higher rated than a PS3/360 game.
Plus, I never compared the Wii to the other consoles. I just listed press-average scores. Plus, I've said countless times that the PS3 is the best.
Look at my new video.
All consoles are awesome.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
i apologize for my previous comment
bigpig1900 2 years ago
No problemo. :)
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Also I would like to add that when we did the wii is a gamecube, only repackaged. You started going on as software. We meant that the wii has almost the exact same hardware. Hardware not software. Many of your statemeants are extremely flawed, like you say Zamato's statements are. I find you making more incorrect statements than he has done in his video.
ChrisJVideos 2 years ago
I said hardware AND software-wise.
-Graphics, about 4 times the XBox's'
-Five times the RAM speed
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Where do you get your information, I would care to know so that I may see if they are a group of fanboys.
ChrisJVideos 2 years ago
I just researched the specs. Give it a try sometime.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
u sux on teh transvestite bits
Crowclub667 2 years ago
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Actrons 2 years ago
The Wii has 5 times the RAM speed of the GameCube and 4 times the XBox's graphics capabilities. It's not a GameCube.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Wii sucks.
They rate games compared to other games on that console because other console would rip the Wii.
iPreorderedMW2 2 years ago
If that was true, they wouldn't rate any games higher than the games on PS3 and 360.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
yeah but so can reviews, but it's the real world there's always a bias
MrSV991 2 years ago
True. Very true. It seems more common in games that aren't part of a major franchise to have biased reviews.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
or the fact that it's in comparison to something it cant compete with (ie. COD Reflex and MW2)
MrSV991 2 years ago
i think user scores are better, they show how the consumer feels to the game
MrSV991 2 years ago
True, but those CAN be biased.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
ya dude it was funny how the guy only used 1 review game site wii has good games call of duty modern warfare reflex got a greeat score and it was reallly a hardcore game for wii i have it
ldrz1 2 years ago
Well, they actually do average out scores of all the sites, but they distort bigger name websites, which is BS. If I want to know how good a game is, I don't care how big their website is. That's why I use press-averages. They're more fair.
Yeah, I have MWR too. Awesome game.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
8:11
Where's the video?
Jakester12621 2 years ago
It'll happen. Just wait.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Good stuff man
PainofPwning 2 years ago
dude i am bored can i get a peice of the ownage you are handing this guy
SonicandTails4life 2 years ago
Lol. Yeah, sure. Here's some of my ownage.
Use it wisely. :)
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Manhunt 2 IS better on the Wii. The PS2 version was horrible (Yes, I know that was an opinion). But yeah, kudos on that one, man.
MrRealMadrid20 2 years ago
Thanks. :)
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
you realize you compared a last gen console to a current gen console..... things don't work like that.
killinger9013 2 years ago
The whole point was to prove it's not last-gen.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Well, this generation has the most
LastRambo341 2 years ago
Citation needed.
AJComixII 2 years ago
Frankly, the console wars are no different than, and I'm sure this reference will go over these children's heads, no different than the classic battle for Arrakis.The PC holds sway over all gaming ever, all games come from the PC, and all games can, one way or another, be played on the PC. Games can be changed for added flavor most easily on the PC regardless of orgin. How many Mario ROMhacks were made on the SNES? None.
AJComixII 2 years ago
Please.... do NOT get into the PC argument. the PC is the best PLATFORM. But we're talking about the CONSOLE wars, here.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Right.
THE PC IS A CONSOLE.
Man, what's with you? Are you taking shots of rubbing alcohol before you reply to me?
AJComixII 2 years ago
PC was originally invented for storing and sending data (such as files or programs), in other words, work.
Yes, there are PCs built from they ground up for gaming, but they still share the same use they were originally built for and still are meant for that purpose by many people. Work.
I can download games on my school PC. Does that make it a console?
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Ha.
I would leave it at that but you just seem to be clueless, so here's the skinny.
EVERY VIDEO GAME CONSOLE EVER IS A COMPUTER. THE END.
And for your ending question, YES.
AJComixII 2 years ago
You clearly don't get it.
I KNOW EVERY GAME EVER OUT CAN GO ON THE PC!
That's not the argument. the argument is whether the PC is a console or not.
Also, no. my school PC is meant for work. That's why it isn't a CONSOLE. Maybe a PLATFORM, but not a CONSOLE.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Oh, and if you define work as "targeting calculations for artillery", then you're on the money on why computers were created. If you think productivity apps were the original use for computers, you're off. By decades. Productivity apps originated in the early 90s, "reviving" the PC industry. The Internet revived it again in the mid to late 90s, and now the PC seems to have reached a coasting point, and now it's merely a case of which OS to use, be it 7, OSX, any *nix, or older OSes.
AJComixII 2 years ago
Well, when calculating artillery, still, where does all that data go?
Still, dude. Kudos, to you. You put up a great argument when it comes to the PC.
FANBOYS, follow this guy's example. Research.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
I don't even own a very powerful PC. The only games I play on PC are Nexuiz, Starcraft, and the like.
AJComixII 2 years ago
"Well, when calculating artillery, still, where does all that data go? "
The enemy of course. In the form of pain.
AJComixII 2 years ago
Lol! xD
Funny.
But still, all the data the PCs hold isn't just floating around in the CPU. It has to go on the hard-drive, right?
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
What kind of pile do you own that hasn't got any RAM? You only have a page file? That's got to be SLOW.
Or is could go to a DVD, CD, or flash drive.
Or it could be punched into cards, like the first computers.
AJComixII 2 years ago
And technically every console is built from computer hardware and software.
Ketorulz 2 years ago
Metacritic uses the same method as Pressaverages, moron.
AJComixII 2 years ago
Metacritic - Average score of a bunch of critics and takes past reviews into consideration. They even say so themselves that the review scores are calculated a little differently.
PAs - Average of EVERY website. EVERYONE'S opinion. No extortions on bigger websites.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Cool story bro. It's still an averaging system, which contains at least 50 sources per game. Any less and even Meta admits it's worthless. PA and MC are equally good, end of story. P.S. GIGO.
AJComixII 2 years ago
They aren't equally as good because the scores are different.
Metacritic says on their website that they distort certain websites and make they're part of the average bigger. Is that as fair as PAs?
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Fair? We're discussing a rankings system, and fair is your requirement? You'd honestly take something brand new and full of amateur reviewers whom have only gamed since 2000 as seriously as Rotten Tomatoes?
AJComixII 2 years ago
No, I'm just saying there's a difference because they distort certain website's scores. Not really a fair comparison. And yes. Being fair does matter. Think of it as the console war itself. You compare the consoles by realizing both the pros and cons.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
In that sense, PCs will always be the best console. They can play every game, and have the best graphics and sound. THAT, is irrefutable.
And I'll stop you right there, emulators. Everything begins and ends with the PC.
The only disadvantage is cost. But some little bastard mouthed off that money shouldn't be an issue to a "true gamer". I haven't the faintest idea who that was, but they're just soaking up the No True Scotsman fallacies.
AJComixII 2 years ago
That guy is just ignorant
SonicHeroX 2 years ago
Lol! I AM ignorant?!
Dude, you cannot argue anything in this video. This is all 100% true, irrefutable, and if you deny it, then you're basically a fanboy in denial.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
I meant the guy you responded too, not you
SonicHeroX 2 years ago
The entire video game industry, as with the music and movie industry, is an entirely subjective market based on the current "tastes".
There is nothing "irrefutable" about a market system. It's simple economics, Half-Life is great now, but if FPSes suddenly fall out of favor, guess what happens? Do a little critical thinking. In fact, finish economics in high school before you even talk about the free market.
AJComixII 2 years ago
He needs to play The Conduit. That games control is PERFECT! My only complaint on the Wii is the awesome franchises like Smash Bros. and Mario Kart have been noobed up for casual gamers -_-
Jakester12621 2 years ago
I agree. EVERY FPS that comes out anymore should follow The Conduits example.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
No. Nexuiz is the best FPS. Nexiuz has perfect control. Don't make me google that for you either. Nexuiz is a major mod of Quake 3, which also gets the same award. Note the platform these games are on (ignoring the Dreamcast for a second). P.C.
That's right.
Don't even suggest that the Wii's controls for an FPS outdo a PC.
That also goes double for an RTS, (Starcraft versus Battalion Wars II, the end)
AJComixII 2 years ago
What are you talking about? There is no proof that Mario Kart Wii or Super Smash Bros Brawl have been "noobed". They have been refined to better balance. No more snaking in Mario Kart, coz that's cheating/cheap skill to beat your opponents (they should never have included the bullet bill either. I agree with that)
Super Smash Bros Brawl...eliminated wave-dashing, a shitty excuse for cheap tactical dodging. Learn to dodge and fight like a man/woman.
Ketorulz 2 years ago
Dude...those games are far from balanced. Brawl didn't balance it out more...in Brawl we all know Metaknight DESTROYS everybody while in Melee, there's SEVEN top characters. And MK Wii's items are so unbalanced it's ridicules. When a Melee smasher complains about Brawl being noobed Brawl people always respond saying that the removal of wavedashing is no big deal...that was ONE thing! The removal of wavedashing isn't why people hate Brawl. There's alot more "noobish "changes and too many to list.
Jakester12621 2 years ago
Metaknight is not the only good character. Mario, Luigi, Ike, Yoshi, Kirby, Mr.Game and Watch, ZELDA, Captain Falcon and DK are top fighters. So you obviously can only play with Metaknight, which explains why you only think he is good. I have used ALL the characters, and have established that the only crappy character is Jigglypuff, nearly completely downgraded from Melee. THAT'S IT!
Mario Kart Wii offers better challenge for people to LEARN to OVERCOME THE WORST OF SITUATIONS! THAT'S SKILL!
Ketorulz 2 years ago
Seriously though, I dont think Zelda Twilight Princess counts either. LINK WAS RIGHT HANDED!!!!11!!!! >:O
Jakester12621 2 years ago
Lol. Although that is true, it still counts. ;)
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
dudw twilight princess sold more because it was a limited edition game on gamecube dumbass
chivaslopez14 2 years ago
@chivaslopez14
Neither version, the GC or Wii, is limited edition. Where in the world did you hear that?
Wii version as of March 1, 2008: 4.52 million
GC version as of March 31, 2007: 1.32 million
Do more research.
Jaques7Chef 2 years ago
Talking to chivaslopez14 btw.
Jaques7Chef 2 years ago
Great research. :D
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Thanks. :D
Jaques7Chef 2 years ago
What's a port over?
Zach23april 2 years ago
metacritic is the ultimate tho they have articles on that site in game informer....metacritic is the ultimate say basically
nitromuffin 2 years ago
Still. Press Averages use MetaCritic and every other ultimate gaming website.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Motion Control = Fail. (doesn't even work efficiently)
Graphics = EPIC Fail. (you will know what i mean if you have seen CoD4 Wii screenshots)
Gameplay = Boring as FUCK. (No good games have a good story plot. example: The CodWaw campaign is literally shorter than the ps3's CodWaw campaign)
Your console can not compare to the Play Station 3, mainly because you haven't even played it.
My point has been proven. Wii Faggot Fanboys are Faggot Fanboys.
DeadandDECAYED99 2 years ago
You're missing the point, you idiot.
Not ONCE, did I say in this video "The Wii is better than the PS3." Even I think the PS3 is better than the Wii.
Here's an idea. Actually watch the video.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
I never said that you did say that. Oh and do you now? then why are you even defending it? Besides, I'm not in the mood to watch an ignorant nazi hate on Zamato Elite.
DeadandDECAYED99 2 years ago
Because it's the one most people rip on and underestimate.
For example, you said the Wii graphics fail. The Wii can output 4 times the graphics of the origional XBox. If you don't believe me, look it up. XBox = 125 milllion PPS, Wii = 500 milllion PPS.
It's just harder to do on the Wii because the Wii isn't provided with its own graphics engine. Therefor, it's harder and time consuming to do.
There's MANY articles saying the Wii CAN output 360-like graphics.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
1. NO SHIT THE WII GRAPHICS ARE BETTER THAN THE ORIGINAL XBOX's! Ever heard of technology? XBOX is last generation, and the wii can barely exceed the xbox's expectations.
2. About graphics engines, maybe the wii should have thought about that and fixed that instead of producing *coughCOD4Wiiwhichis2yearslateandothershittygameslikeSSBBandothergamesthatmusthaveMARIOinit*
DeadandDECAYED99 2 years ago
1. BAERLY exceed the Xbox graphics? Have you played Metroid Prime 3? Or Super Mario Galaxy? Not to mention the fact that the Wii is capable of outputting 4 times the XBox's graphics. There's plenty of articles on the Wii saying it can output 360-like graphics. So you fail.
2. There's plenty of Wii games that don't have Mario in it that are just as good. I already addressed this, but you guys are just ignorant. Face the facts. The Wii has games.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Dude u only talk about articles, u never show real footage of comparisons. So ur just the messenger boy of some stupid ass site saying that wii games can output 360 graphics. WHICH THEY CANT.
And Wii games: I have a Wii. I HAVE played MP3. But they just aren't good enough to compare to 360/ps3 graphics.
DeadandDECAYED99 2 years ago
I don't need to "compare footage". There's plenty of things you can compare without having to show footage. Controls, story, etc.
Is that all that matters? Graphics? If you were a real gamer you could care less what the game looks like. Hell, I still play my SNES and PS1. Tell me, do they compare AT ALL graphics-wise with the current gen consoles?
Yes, you want the game to look presentable. But better graphics don't always make a better game. You fail, my friend.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Yeah, PS3 hardware wise and software wise is better than the Wii. Yet I like my Wii more because of the type of software I prefer. Wii has the most platformers, which is my favorite genre.
SoaringDive 2 years ago
Yeah.
See fanboys? Give valid reasons of your opinion.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
I just hope they don't go and say something like "FPSs are the only real genre". That's like saying Emo is the only real genre of music.
SoaringDive 2 years ago
LOL! Yeah. xD
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Ha, I'm already getting tired of FPSes, they're plaguing the market already
LastRambo341 2 years ago
FPSes have been around since the 90s. The word "already" is severely misused. Also, Elder Scrolls.
AJComixII 2 years ago
What does Oblivion OR FPSs being out since the 90s have to do with anything?
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Ya, but they're overly-used this generation
LastRambo341 2 years ago
What about the last two generations?
AJComixII 2 years ago
Not nearly AS bad.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Half-life, Goldeneye, Perfect Dark, Quake in general, Counter Strike, Unreal Torny, the list goes ON.
AJComixII 2 years ago
no more heroes was bad
nitromuffin 2 years ago
It had mixed reviews. You either completely loved it, or you hated it.
Also, an 8.4 press-average isn't "bad". In IGNs description, ANY game of ANY console that scores between 8 and 9 is marked as "great".
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
yup the guy at gamestop liked it i bought it i thought it was easy and not really good at all. i just wish the wii had better games so i can use it more
nitromuffin 2 years ago
Umm.
LoZ: Twilight Princess, Madworld, Metroid Prime 3, SSBB, Super Mario Galaxy, MKW, etc.
You obviously didn't watch the video. If you did, you'd know that there's games out there rated just as high as the PS3 and 360 games.
How about you actually "watch" the video before you go all out flaming the Wii.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
madworld = trash so 4 good games....i own them all besides w/e mkw is and twilight princess which is last gen
nitromuffin 2 years ago
Madworld got an 83% press average so pipe down, its not trash. And there are way more than 4 good games
LastRambo341 2 years ago
wow thats a low 80 not good low standards
nitromuffin 2 years ago
what the...? whether you like it or not, 80 = AA game = great
LastRambo341 2 years ago
See, this is why I don't like consoles anymore.
PC>Consoles (Better graphics, controls, mods, effects)
But if it were up to me in terms of consoles, PS3 is the best.
All this is in my opinion btw.
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
No, PC isn't better then the consoles because there are models that are worst then a PS2. If you're gonna say that then you need a brand or model of PC, not just say PC>Consoles because that is false.
FaytSaratome 2 years ago
you OBVIOUSLY haven't played on PC before. Okay allow me to say it like this:
ENTHUSIAST GAMING PC > Consoles
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
Yes I have. Only thing in gaming PC has over consoles is FPS and RTS which the Wii can do just as well. Other then those the PC doesn't add anything. Now talking machines, PC can not claim to be better then the consoles because of the reasons I already stated.
FaytSaratome 2 years ago
PC has best FPS and RTS rofl. Best controls too. And over consoles is, frames per second, resolution, GRAPHICS, GRAPHICS, and I almost forgot to mention GRAPHICS, then theres physics, interactivity, and special effects. This is all facts bro, no offense or trouble. It's facts. On PC, you can play games in 3D. Like there's a 3D mode with recent games to PLAY in 3D with glasses on (not those red and blue ones either). Also better online because theres less hackers and more efficient servers.
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
Less hackers? Lol, okay buddy.
I agree with you completely that the PC is superior to consoles, however, there are many more hackers on PC games then on PS3/360. I'm not even going to include the wii.
ViralSicknessX6 2 years ago
I can promise you there are less hackers. Just because its PC doesnt mean theres more hackers. It's a myth. Look, I want you to got play online games on PC and see for yourself. There's this thing called punkbuster. It PREVENTS and KICKS hackers. Even if the only so few hackers get through, the server console will kick them. And if they bypass console, that admins will remove them. I mean on PS3 COD4 you catch people inside walls and flying. But on PC, NO HACKERS. They arer kicked at entry.
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
btw, how is it "false?" It's not false nor is it true because its an opinion....-_-"
console gamers, lol
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
I agree that the PS3 is the best console. I just protect the Wii because it's the one most people underestimate and rip on.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
well, you can't blame them for hating wii. I mean, I dislike the wii, because I can only get ONE console a generation (which sucks), and I chose wii. Many people are in the same situation. Some can't afford next gen consoles or gaming PCs. So realizing the wii isn't what they truly want, they have a reason to get mad. Don't get me wrong, wii is good, but theres only A FEW games great on it. Too much shovelware makes it bad, and thats why I don't like it. I built a gaming PC so Im happy lol :P
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
FEW great games? xD , bro come on
LastRambo341 2 years ago
srry man but my wii is like....untouched for about a year lol :P
I mean if there were a lot of great games I should be busy playin the wii every day but uhh....that, unfortunately, is not the case. Don't get me wrong, its a good system, but too much "shovelware" lol. I guess I'll have to wait 2010 for Metroid Other M. It's the only game im looking forward to on wii lol :P
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
too much shovelware WTF Do you only look for shovelware XD
theres a lot more awesome games then your saying
Patricktheangel 2 years ago
Thats your fault xD , I'm currently playing Metroid Prime Trilogy, Muramasa and about to get Extraction. I don't lnow about you, but you're missing out a lot
LastRambo341 2 years ago
LOL! You obviously don't know what's all coming to the Wii 2010.
LuparaG4mer 2 years ago
Metroid Other M, Mario Galaxy 2, New Zelda, Red Steel 2.....I know whats coming out bro lol :P
I just prefer the OTHER games on the next gen systems and pc. I will want Metroid Other M though. Maybe the New Zelda too, but I heard its going to be way different so idk. Metroid and Zelda are probably the only reasons why I have wii.
Also dude, reviews from critics doesn't really matter these days. They were good back in the day, but now, IMO, they overrate and underrate.
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
Ya, but people take those reviews too seriously, xD
LastRambo341 2 years ago
yes they do
SilentPhenomed 2 years ago
Do you even now what Metacritic does? It takes an average from all the popular gaming review sites, don't be an idiot.
CraigtehGeek 2 years ago
Media critic, Gamer rankings and Press averages ALL use averages.
michael48892 2 years ago
But they all have different scores
LastRambo341 2 years ago
The idiot said that the wii can't handle COD 4 xD , its coming this november !
LastRambo341 2 years ago
CoD 4 on Wii? I'mgoing to check it^^
Sdares 2 years ago
Yup, at the same date as MW2. All of the perks, maps and modes are all there. Also you can cutomize controls. The only things are sacrificed are hd graphics (it looks pretty good) , offline multiplayer and a few number of players (there are 10).
LastRambo341 2 years ago
Is 8 players a few?
Sdares 2 years ago
That was in Waw, cod 4 has 10
LastRambo341 2 years ago
By the way. Can you add me in PSN because Went I write your name it say that it doesn't you now. PSN: Caboune
Sdares 2 years ago
I don't have my ps3 at the moment, I'll get it in the 20s of November. Check again and type the exact same name.
LastRambo341 2 years ago