So, this is a femme fatale. I have been practicing musculation since 4 years now and I exercise my stomach muscles. I am able to make 1000 abdos divided in 7 series and I don't have her beautiful belly. But I guess that maybe I got a bigger bottom. Sure : that girl is fatale. How old is she at the moment of the photo ?
@fishsticksandbeer The wealthy part of New England is more likely to make you insane. I don't know how many rich people you've met, but i'd much rather socialize with those "rat-infested" REAL people you just mentioned.
@PanoplyCabaret Yes, she was actually diagnosed with anorexia nervosa when she was 16 (or maybe 17) . I have friends who are naturally that skinny, but it´s not her case, she suffered from eating disorders.
@soulchick80 I agree: it's the best book ever. Definitely a must-read! I read it very, very quickly while I was in the hospital following a traffic accident, I just devoured it, and it really changed my perspective on things, that book in conjunction with everything else that happened.
@DenisJUMONT no, not at all. Femme fatale is used to call a woman who uses sexuality as a weapon. In film noir a femme fatale is usually a very very beautiful, atractive, mysterious woman that seduces men to obtain something, they can be villians or heroines.
@DenisJUMONT It is an irresistible and a seductive woman. The men can't resist to her. You can think about Marylin Monroe or Brigitte Bardot. Femme = woman. "Fatale" is an adjective which qualify a thing that you can't escape.
@Mowglix WOW, LR & LA were married this year on my birthday, Apr. 12'th. Thats one talented union. Could you imagine if they could've have childern! Too bad it didn't happen 40yrs ago. So maybe it's true that he loved Nico & Edie once. Appears he's attracted to talented smart beautiful women. Life is rough, yeah Lou! Thanks for the info Mowglix. Can't get to know too much about the VU & that whole crew.
@Mowglix I only mentioned that LR is gay 'cause it was said he may have been in love w/ Nico. Then that he loved/loves Edie. Usually gay men aren't in love with women & I seen several references that he was/is gay. Is he married to Laurie Anderson? I wasn't aware of that. I can't learn enough about the VU, thanks. I don't think he cares if people know if he was or he wasn't. I wouldn't. Neither do my 2 gay sisters or my brother. LA, huh!? Gotta Google that one.
@tshimmy682 I didn't know that! I thought LR was in love with Nico. Also, I'm sure Andy Warhol asked LR to write a song about Edie, but if you listen to the words I think it's about Nico! Also, I read that LR & Nico dedicated the song to Edie after she died. Maybe both are true, LOL! "Little boy she's from the street, before you start you're already beat" sounds like Nico to me. Also, Edie wasn't really a man eater (although she was a femme fatale!) she only felt comfortable around Gay men,etc
@jarileigh No, Femme Fatale was dedicated to Edie from the very start, and when you listen to the 1969 bootleg recordings from the Dallas and San Francisco gigs the Velvet Underground did that year, Lou even mentions it in front of the audience. "Edie is a superstar. Was a superstar", etc.
@tshimmy682 He might be gay, I don't think it's all that relevant anyway. And he's married to Laurie Anderson, so maybe he's straight. It's his private business, anyway. But yeah, the song is about Edie.
i agree with most of the comments about paris hilton...i can't see what men find so attractive about her...she has a boy's body...no tits, no ass...has the brains of a rock...and will do anything to keep herself in the spotlight...an attention whore if there ever was one...
What a beautifully edited presentation of this lovely Song! Thank you for posting. Of course she was a femme fatale... that was the look of the edgy times. Busty was way out of fashion, in reaction to the pneumatic fifties. And of course the song was about her. Nico was beautiful in a totally different way. thanks for posting.
trust it was from edie....listen to the live version of this song with lou reed on vocals he says it before he plays the song..."andy warhol told me to write a song about edie" and goes on to say "edie is a superstar...was a superstar"
The song is about Edie. How many times must this be repeated? It was Andy Warhol's idea originally.
Wikipedia says:
"Femme Fatale" is a song by The Velvet Underground from their 1967 debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico. At producer Andy Warhol's request, band frontman Lou Reed wrote the song about Warhol superstar Edie Sedgwick. The song was released as a B-Side to Sunday Morning in December 1966.
You may have your opinion, but thats what happened.
Maybe it was about Edie originally, I don't think anyone from that Factory-era was not on so many drugs as to remember the specifics, I doubt they know exactly what happened!
@saintjasin You have not ONE single piece of info, u called racist Paris a Goddess(then took it back). And people that you respect, like Lou Reed & Nico, loved Edie and wrote/dedicated songs to her, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, years later The Cult, many many more have written songs about her. This month she has been declared a Fashion Icon of the '60's on pg 38 in the June 2011 issue of Vogue, so I guess all your BS about her having no originality is just that, BS! LOL You'll never win!
@saintjasin I will give you a hint, if you want to argue with someone, know your subject! otherwise you end up saying things like Paris Hilton is a Goddess, and Edie is a drug-whore airhead with no originality. But you know absolutely nothing about either one! I have listed all of the things that Edie did and/or had a huge impact on, & though I sense some intelligence in there, you continue to argue instead of admitted this has been a collossal loss!
Also, Andy's idea of a femme fatale and Lou's would have been very different, given the fact that Andy was gay, and Lou couldn't refuse because Andy gave The Velvet Underground a place to play, he logically would have written the song from what was in his heart (Nico) & not have attributed it to her for a variety of reasons (bad breakup), Andy's generousity towards him, etc. Edie was too needy & vulnerable to be the object of that particular song.
Saintjasin says is a song about Edie and jarileigh reply is about Nico,I don't know the true,despite I hear this song since years ago.Edie,her face and eyes tell that she was a very neat and charming girl.Nico;her eyes and face tell that she was a friendly femme fatale,very intelligent.And don't forget that in the Factory was also walking around Valerie Solanas!What fabulous group of women!
Are you talking about Paris Hilton?Who is that girl?A singer?Forget she...Edie,I didn't know her,it's a pretty thin girl with a "blank" expression of her face,I didn't know her but several years ago I heard this song,that is one of the more beautiful slow songs in the rock music.The others themes are non-sense here,it's a song dedicated to Edie,and she is watching you and me.
@saintjasin Do you think is a great insult?The leter is non-offensive,even is pretty to say "you're a femme fatale",withouth anger.More,seeing the face and the expression that shows Edie in this vid I think she hadn't been very dissapointed with this song,more,she would be very pleased that Lou say to her;"you're a femme fatale".Poor child,must Edie think,he loves me.
@jarileigh I think that is very likely, consider the general feel of the song, which to me is an glowing ode over Edie, though not the individual words which are really scathing, some of it. But yeah, it was easy to fall in love with Edie,
@KobaStalin77 Lou Reed wrote this song for Nico, then Nico & Lou dedicated the song to her memory because it was special to both of them, the song was never meant to be about Edie. Patti Smith wrote a lovely poem about Edie when she heard of her death. The songs Dylan wrote that were inspired by Edie, & some of them clearly about her, were not kind, but then Dylan was often hardest on those he admired.
@jarileigh "Femme Fatale" is a song by The Velvet Underground from their 1967 debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico. At producer Andy Warhol's request, band frontman Lou Reed wrote the song about Warhol superstar Edie Sedgwick.[1] The song was released as a B-Side to Sunday Morning in December 1966.
you should know that story, Warhol called her a femme fatale. The "little boy" on the street in my opinion was Warhol and Lou was telling Andy that Edie was bad. He was right, unlike you...
@saintjasin Lou Reed was in love with Nico (who inspired this song), and he loved Edie, why would he tell Warhol that Edie was bad? That makes no sense, Nico is clearly more of a femme fatale than Edie was. They were/are both awesome women, both of them far from perfect. Nico was a functioning heroin addict for 10 years, & Edie had tons of personal problems. I admire the way that Edie dealt with more pain than any human should be subjected to in one lifetime.
@saintjasin About the movie "Factory Girl" that was meant to be about Edie, Lou Reed said "I read that script, it was the bulls%^% I have ever read, it's amazing how low some people will stoop to make a dollar" He's taking up for her because he knew the movie was so untruthful, I think it's sweet. And how can you call Edie "bad" when Nico did worse than she did, and you know nothing about her? Out of morbid curiousity, where did you read that Warhol ever "produced" anything, ever?
@saintjasin Okay, in the Lou Reed story, Andy supposedly asks Lou to write a song about Edie, & says "Don't you think she's a femme fatale?" But given the fact that the most common word people use to describe Andy is "passive" & the most common word people use to describe Edie is "vulnerable" it seems much more likely that Lou had Nico, who he was briefly obsessed with, in mind when he wrote the song. It certianly doesn't fit Edie's personality at all.
I definately disagree with your comment about Edie being bad. And Andy was only producer in name, as Lou Reed said
"Of course he didn't know anything about record production—but he didn't have to. He just sat there and said "Oooh, that's fantastic," and the engineer would say, "Oh yeah! Right! It is fantastic, isn't it?" "
The Cult have a great song about her, Edie (Ciao Baby)
@MowgliX Lou and Nico dedicated this song to Edie after her death, "Little boy, she's from the streets" is the exact opposite of Edie, not only was she born priviledged, but also very isolated. Lou was very much in love with Nico, I'm sure the song was inspired by her/even if Lou said that, it was dedicated to her after her death by many other sources, I don't want to argue with you,lets agree to disagree, I love your videos :)
@jarileigh Right. She wasn't from the streets. I don't disagree with you at all. On the contrary: Edie was the perfect girl in my eyes, except that she had very serious emotional and mental problems and several terrible drug and medication addictions. I don't know if Lou was in love with Edie. Perhaps she rejected him, and maybe that's what the song is about. I think we can agree it's really a love song, a symbol of complete adoration for this girl, just as I love her unconditionally.
@jarileigh The song was released in 1967, and Edie was very much around then. It was dedicated to Edie while she was alive. Lou says so on a 1969 live recording I own myself.
That is a particularly odd thing to say, that Edie was Warhol's low point in art, considering the face that he adored her, and all standards, wanted to BE her. Many people said "Andy would have liked to have been Edie". And look up the list of songs & poems written about Edie, since during her lifetime to date. Who has written anything about Paris except that they "did" her?
@jarileigh I'd take a chat with Paris over Edie any day... And yeah. I think Warhols films were not the greatest. What he was doing in general is far more important or interesting than the films themselves. That's just my opinion. His high points, to me, were his graphic design career, his early "paintings", his Pop philosophy and his work with Basquiat. Edie is pretty, seductive and seems to have so much depth. But listen to the words of the song. Edie is shallow. There's nobody home.
@saintjasin WTF? Paris is shallow, there is NOTHING shallow about Edie, only someone who knows absolutely nothing about Edie would make such a remark, with Paris, there is definitely nobody home! No one who faced as much adversity as Edie did so early in life could possibly be shallow, it takes too much to overcome such adversity, it gives a person depth just to have survived it.
@saintjasin What's more, I think you just hate the fact that I am right :) Edie inspired Bob Dylan's Blonde on Blonde, which is not only named after her (hair) but most of the songs are inspired/about her. She was a muse to Patti Smith, Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Betsey Johnson, Warhol & L.M. Kit Carson, to name a few. She didn't seek the limelight, the light sought her, & her intelligence is undisputed. You may prefer to chat w/ Paris, but I assure you that when you knock, no one will be home!
@jarileigh she also inspired this song... she may fascinate you, but she disgusts me. If Paris represents everything that wrong with this country, Edie represents something terribly wrong with the individual. And when I was speaking of no one being home, I was more referring to no one being home in the sociopathic sense, but "stupid is as stupid does," so I would not call Edie a smart, to say the least. I respect your passion, but I am sick and tired of your arguments... add me on facebook =D
@saintjasin I just happen to strongly disagree & feel compelled to respond :) Paris is 100% fake on the inside & outside, she has no tits, no ass, no class! She is a brown haired, brown eyed nasty slut with the body of a boy & a funny looking nose! She'll do anything for publicity, releasing her sex tape right before her TV show, she comprehensively & positively represents everything that is wrong w/this country today. She would be nothing without her name.
@jarileigh Paris is sexy, poised, her every fluid movement glows with class sophistication and utter goddess on earth-ness. Her nose is cute, publicity makes her millions, and if you don't understand what she is doing, you're as airheaded as Edie Sedgewick... Oh and Paris if you're reading this? Holla! My number is 555-1212
@jarileigh paris is the fungii that grows on DOG SHIT ,and any one that admires her or her type mknows fuck all ,about anything ,they are displaying classic moronic symptoms,from watching shite tv +reading weekly magazines ,as its their whole life ,pathetic ,idiots ,,,
@Ragnhild71 I don't know what you are talking about, I have always thought Edie beautiful, and I don't think "busty blondes with blue eyes" are attractive unless it's natural and they can't help it. Ironically, I was raised as a Elite gymnasts, so my "ideal" body type that I have a preference to is pre-buecent. My career as a gymnast was cut short (I feel) due to my development & the fact that my genes were against me (my Mom & sister have huge ones)
@Sixtiesera Ahhh, irony... I completely missed it! :) Edie loved her brown hair, but she thought it would be cool to look like Andy I guess, so she used silver spray (!) sometimes, not only dye!
I was 22 and just out of college when I read Edie. I worked in the corporate world by day and partied like a maniac at night from DC to NYC. I thought Edie was the coolest thing ever and tried hard to look and be like her (i NEVER touched drugs tho but drank a lot). Now in my 40's, I have about as much respect for her as I do for Paris Hilton which, as you can guess, is none. Amazing how you grow up and see so much waste. These people look like such losers to me now.
I have more respect for Paris than Edie, I think Paris is a lot smarter and far more savvy. But the comparison you make is great. I can't get this Edie worship people have when she is the precedent for the shallow celebrity woman of today. In my opinion Edie was Andy Warhols low point in art. He used the girl, I feel sorry for her, and I wish she would have lived to maybe grow. But she gave us nothing by the way of character or soul. Very fitting Nico should be singing about her.
@saintjasin It's not a great respect for Edie that leads people to her, but rather a fascination for her extreme, contradictory, and complex nature. There is not much to fascinate one about Paris Hilton (and that isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just the reason we don't care). Paris is only "business savvy" because her existence revolves around maintaining her wealth and celebrity status. Aside from her knowledge of publicity generation, she is an unimaginative dolt.
@xXPinkGoddessXx there is nothing complex about Edie. She was a stage prop at worst, and a bad actress at best. Warhol used her for her charisma, and her shallowness allowed it. I am sorry you feel that way about Paris though. She is very intelligent. As a personal brand she built of the worlds most valuable. She's not too popular with hipsters & liking Edie is so chic, but who likes hipsters anyway? Watch "The Simple Life". At least Paris can act!! oh..don't tell me..you thought it was real?=|
@saintjasin You don't call someone who gave the outward appearance of being joyous but was hurting deeply on the inside, complex? Someone who lived life with effervescence but was committing a perpetual slow-motion suicide? An exhibitionist who embraced people wholeheartedly yet was terrified of revealing herself and forming emotional bonds? Someone who gave herself the freedom to do anything she wanted to, but was psychologically trapped by past abuse? I could go on all day.
@saintjasin What makes you think Paris is intelligent? In every interview I've watched her, she has absolutely nothing to say and zero imagination, wit, flair, or knowledge of any kind to demonstrate. Robots have more magnetism. Building her personal brand didn't take intelligence. Anyone born with an inheritance and famous name can make a public spectacle of themselves, cash in on it, and then peddle awful products to unsuspecting 13 year old girls. Does acting like a fool count as "acting"?
@saintjasin You call making sex tapes to get your name in the tabloids and not wearing underwear savvy? And when she was in a movie had to be told repeatedly by the director that she was not playing herself? Edie was smarter stoned off her ass than Paris will ever be. And if the ONLY thing Edie ever accomplished is being a muse, great art from Dylan to Patti Smith to The Cult....on and on, who will be moved by Paris to write great songs,etc that will last forever (Blonde on Blonde)?
@jarileigh you wrote this on Christmas Eve and thats lame. Anyway, the original discussion was a comparison of two people famous for being famous. People famous for being famous do wtf they want. Sex tapes drugs etc... Thing about Paris is she's turned herself into a brand that grosses hundreds of millions a year. Edie was shunned by The Factory and died broke and smacked-out. But thank God for Edie ... because without Edie the Edie fans would probably be Nico fans. And that would be blasphemous
More proof that some women look prettier with short hair than long hair. Edie was beautiful with long hair but to me, I think she was gorgeous with her hair cut short.
@jij55555 She is number one to me too, so beautiful and pure, but she was a very, very troubled person. In her lifetime, I don't think she ever realized what kind of potential she had. She could have been as big as the biggest movie stars at the time, but as you know she was emotionally extremely unstable and she was a slave to drugs, especially amphetamines, tranquilizers and barbiturates, and probably an alcoholic too.
The black and white footage from Manhattan was shot in 1967 and the color scenes from Santa Barbara and Los Angeles were done in 1970-71. I love Edie. She was the loveliest, sweetest girl ever.
@malditoinvierno The information is right, look "Femme Fatale" is a song by The Velvet Underground from their 1967 debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico. At producer Andy Warhol's request, band frontman Lou Reed wrote the song about Warhol superstar Edie Sedgwick"
@ididntwriteanamehere The structure with four smokestacks, on the other side of the East River, is the old Schwartz Chemical Company factory in Long Island City, built in 1906 as a power station for the Pennsylvania Railroad.
@ididntwriteanamehere They are standing on an overpass near the intersection of E 42nd St and 1st Avenue at roughly 28 Tudor City Place in Tudor City. The overpass is still there just as it was then - you can see it in Google Earth - even the metal railings are identical. It goes across East 42nd Street at Tudor City Place. The low-slung building with a flat, slightly curved roof behind Edie is part of the UN Building in Manhattan. The camera is facing east across the East River.
@ididntwriteanamehere The building with the curved roof behind Edie is the Dag Hammarskjöld Library, donated by the Ford Foundation and renamed in the former UN Secretay General's honor in 1961. The interior of that building is quite spectacular.
Edie was so special. I mean, here we are, in April 2010, and the pictures of the gorgeous Edie were shot in 1965-67. Her face, voice and moves still captivate a large audience over 40 years later. Some of her fans are older than me, but a large proportion are younger! Why is that? Does history sometimes make an exception and skip one or two generations? I believe that happens sometimes. She's a great mystery to me. How can someone so adorable and talented destroy herself in such a horrible way?
You're put down in her book You're number 37, have a look She's going to smile to make you frown, what a clown Little boy, she's from the street Before you start, you're already beat She's gonna play you for a fool, yes it's true 'Cause everybody knows (She's a femme fatale) The things she does to please (She's a femme fatale) She's just a little tease (She's a femme fatale) See the way she walks Hear the way she talks
Nico & Edie...Orgasms.
annabananachris 13 hours ago
Fantastic, so much emotions passing by, great voice!
gtv6dave 4 days ago
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Akoemak 1 month ago
un ange passe.....
lucignolo1910 1 month ago
i made this in memory of edie sedgwick (plays like a rolling stone)
TheJUGGERNAUT987 1 month ago
I hate chuck norris so much now.
SamsonOff7 1 month ago 2
Louise Attaque - J't'emmène au vent
DenisJUMONT 2 months ago
So, this is a femme fatale. I have been practicing musculation since 4 years now and I exercise my stomach muscles. I am able to make 1000 abdos divided in 7 series and I don't have her beautiful belly. But I guess that maybe I got a bigger bottom. Sure : that girl is fatale. How old is she at the moment of the photo ?
DenisJUMONT 2 months ago
@fishsticksandbeer The wealthy part of New England is more likely to make you insane. I don't know how many rich people you've met, but i'd much rather socialize with those "rat-infested" REAL people you just mentioned.
jacobthelioneater 3 months ago
@fishsticksandbeer They were not "rat infested". What are you talking about? They were just people like you and me.
MowgliX 3 months ago
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Chloe Sevigny was right when she said she was just a rich socialite who did a lot of drugs and didn't really accomplish anything.
spaceghost30082 3 months ago
anorexia ftw.
boiledhippo1 4 months ago
@boiledhippo1 Was she actually? I have pretty much the exact same build as her, and I'm not anorexic.
PanoplyCabaret 2 months ago
@PanoplyCabaret Yes, she was actually diagnosed with anorexia nervosa when she was 16 (or maybe 17) . I have friends who are naturally that skinny, but it´s not her case, she suffered from eating disorders.
soulchick80 1 month ago
@soulchick80 Mmm well thank you. I want to read more about her- she seems so surrounded in mythos.
PanoplyCabaret 1 month ago
@PanoplyCabaret Then you should read Edie: An American Biography, you can easily find it on ebay =)
soulchick80 4 weeks ago
@soulchick80 I've got a number of books on the go right now, but I will keep that on my radar, thanks. (:
PanoplyCabaret 4 weeks ago
@soulchick80 I agree: it's the best book ever. Definitely a must-read! I read it very, very quickly while I was in the hospital following a traffic accident, I just devoured it, and it really changed my perspective on things, that book in conjunction with everything else that happened.
MowgliX 6 days ago
Not to mention Edie Sedgwick is a true Icon. People will look up to her for many years to come. Paris who?
Welcome2MyLyfe 4 months ago
Oh man. 2:36 and onwards... the camera LOVED Edie. She was the perfect model, so gloriously beautiful and graceful!
MowgliX 4 months ago
Is it just me or does anyone else finds this song totally mean ?
P0ulpie 5 months ago
@P0ulpie I mean its describing a girl who is a bitch
alexman24893 5 months ago
What is the definition of a femme fatale ? A girtl with a small bottom ?
DenisJUMONT 5 months ago
@DenisJUMONT no, not at all. Femme fatale is used to call a woman who uses sexuality as a weapon. In film noir a femme fatale is usually a very very beautiful, atractive, mysterious woman that seduces men to obtain something, they can be villians or heroines.
Lucci 4 months ago
@DenisJUMONT It is an irresistible and a seductive woman. The men can't resist to her. You can think about Marylin Monroe or Brigitte Bardot. Femme = woman. "Fatale" is an adjective which qualify a thing that you can't escape.
fiifine 2 months ago
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debi1405 6 months ago
@Mowglix WOW, LR & LA were married this year on my birthday, Apr. 12'th. Thats one talented union. Could you imagine if they could've have childern! Too bad it didn't happen 40yrs ago. So maybe it's true that he loved Nico & Edie once. Appears he's attracted to talented smart beautiful women. Life is rough, yeah Lou! Thanks for the info Mowglix. Can't get to know too much about the VU & that whole crew.
tshimmy682 6 months ago
@Mowglix I only mentioned that LR is gay 'cause it was said he may have been in love w/ Nico. Then that he loved/loves Edie. Usually gay men aren't in love with women & I seen several references that he was/is gay. Is he married to Laurie Anderson? I wasn't aware of that. I can't learn enough about the VU, thanks. I don't think he cares if people know if he was or he wasn't. I wouldn't. Neither do my 2 gay sisters or my brother. LA, huh!? Gotta Google that one.
tshimmy682 6 months ago
She was an artist. Her whole life was art.
MowgliX 6 months ago
@MowgliX Lou Reed Is openly gay. I read somewhere Andy Warhol asked LR to write a song about Edie & he wrote Femme Fatale.
tshimmy682 6 months ago
@tshimmy682 I didn't know that! I thought LR was in love with Nico. Also, I'm sure Andy Warhol asked LR to write a song about Edie, but if you listen to the words I think it's about Nico! Also, I read that LR & Nico dedicated the song to Edie after she died. Maybe both are true, LOL! "Little boy she's from the street, before you start you're already beat" sounds like Nico to me. Also, Edie wasn't really a man eater (although she was a femme fatale!) she only felt comfortable around Gay men,etc
jarileigh 6 months ago
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tshimmy682 6 months ago
@jarileigh No, Femme Fatale was dedicated to Edie from the very start, and when you listen to the 1969 bootleg recordings from the Dallas and San Francisco gigs the Velvet Underground did that year, Lou even mentions it in front of the audience. "Edie is a superstar. Was a superstar", etc.
MowgliX 6 months ago
@tshimmy682 He might be gay, I don't think it's all that relevant anyway. And he's married to Laurie Anderson, so maybe he's straight. It's his private business, anyway. But yeah, the song is about Edie.
MowgliX 6 months ago
Brilliant work.
NoraWakelyTenley 7 months ago
could anybody but Nico sing this song so well?
FJTiernan 7 months ago
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tshimmy682 6 months ago
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tshimmy682 6 months ago
how can people adore people? she wasn't much, none ideology and not an exemple to follow, just a beutiful girl, but still an idol to people nowadays
socialite? we don't need it, if it was great thing an asshole like Paris shoud never became one
greendog105 7 months ago
I really enjoyed this =)
vanity7venus7 8 months ago
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iatetheinternet1 8 months ago
Wtf movie was she naked in? seriously. please SOMEBODY TELL ME
jessicamshannon 8 months ago
@jessicamshannon "Ciao! Manhattan" ?
gimmeadollr 8 months ago
Edie was not protected. We have to protect Britney. It must never happened again!
Messylin 8 months ago
YES...EDIE, LOU,ANDY...
hektorm 8 months ago
i agree with most of the comments about paris hilton...i can't see what men find so attractive about her...she has a boy's body...no tits, no ass...has the brains of a rock...and will do anything to keep herself in the spotlight...an attention whore if there ever was one...
Kellogs43able 8 months ago
@Kellogs43able LMFAO!!!! An attention whore with the brains of a rock!!!!!
jarileigh 6 months ago
nico <3
vatzehail 8 months ago
Bob Dylans"Like A Rolling Stone" was about Edie as well...Great post!!
LBjim 9 months ago
What a beautifully edited presentation of this lovely Song! Thank you for posting. Of course she was a femme fatale... that was the look of the edgy times. Busty was way out of fashion, in reaction to the pneumatic fifties. And of course the song was about her. Nico was beautiful in a totally different way. thanks for posting.
Earnshawful 9 months ago
@Earnshawful Thank you, that is beautifully put! Edie was dazzlingly beautiful.
MowgliX 9 months ago
trust it was from edie....listen to the live version of this song with lou reed on vocals he says it before he plays the song..."andy warhol told me to write a song about edie" and goes on to say "edie is a superstar...was a superstar"
watever4201 9 months ago
Great video on Edie !! The cult have a great song called edie (ciao baby) in her memory !!
giamozz 10 months ago
The song is about Edie. How many times must this be repeated? It was Andy Warhol's idea originally.
Wikipedia says:
"Femme Fatale" is a song by The Velvet Underground from their 1967 debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico. At producer Andy Warhol's request, band frontman Lou Reed wrote the song about Warhol superstar Edie Sedgwick. The song was released as a B-Side to Sunday Morning in December 1966.
You may have your opinion, but thats what happened.
MowgliX 10 months ago
Maybe it was about Edie originally, I don't think anyone from that Factory-era was not on so many drugs as to remember the specifics, I doubt they know exactly what happened!
jarileigh 10 months ago
@jarileigh you are so in denial.
saintjasin 9 months ago
@saintjasin You have not ONE single piece of info, u called racist Paris a Goddess(then took it back). And people that you respect, like Lou Reed & Nico, loved Edie and wrote/dedicated songs to her, Bob Dylan, the Rolling Stones, years later The Cult, many many more have written songs about her. This month she has been declared a Fashion Icon of the '60's on pg 38 in the June 2011 issue of Vogue, so I guess all your BS about her having no originality is just that, BS! LOL You'll never win!
jarileigh 8 months ago
@jarileigh I'll call it a loss if you let me cook you dinner.
saintjasin 8 months ago
@saintjasin I will give you a hint, if you want to argue with someone, know your subject! otherwise you end up saying things like Paris Hilton is a Goddess, and Edie is a drug-whore airhead with no originality. But you know absolutely nothing about either one! I have listed all of the things that Edie did and/or had a huge impact on, & though I sense some intelligence in there, you continue to argue instead of admitted this has been a collossal loss!
jarileigh 8 months ago
I'll keep it short -- great vid to great song. Love it all, thanks.
MrBuk86 10 months ago
Also, Andy's idea of a femme fatale and Lou's would have been very different, given the fact that Andy was gay, and Lou couldn't refuse because Andy gave The Velvet Underground a place to play, he logically would have written the song from what was in his heart (Nico) & not have attributed it to her for a variety of reasons (bad breakup), Andy's generousity towards him, etc. Edie was too needy & vulnerable to be the object of that particular song.
jarileigh 11 months ago
Saintjasin says is a song about Edie and jarileigh reply is about Nico,I don't know the true,despite I hear this song since years ago.Edie,her face and eyes tell that she was a very neat and charming girl.Nico;her eyes and face tell that she was a friendly femme fatale,very intelligent.And don't forget that in the Factory was also walking around Valerie Solanas!What fabulous group of women!
KobaStalin77 11 months ago
This is brilliant, i'm so glad I came across it!
skinsislovely 11 months ago
Excellent, she was the BEST.
Molokai17 11 months ago
Are you talking about Paris Hilton?Who is that girl?A singer?Forget she...Edie,I didn't know her,it's a pretty thin girl with a "blank" expression of her face,I didn't know her but several years ago I heard this song,that is one of the more beautiful slow songs in the rock music.The others themes are non-sense here,it's a song dedicated to Edie,and she is watching you and me.
Saludos desde España,en el soleado Mediterráneo.
KobaStalin77 1 year ago
@KobaStalin77 this was not dedicated to Edie, it was insulting Edie.
saintjasin 11 months ago
@saintjasin Do you think is a great insult?The leter is non-offensive,even is pretty to say "you're a femme fatale",withouth anger.More,seeing the face and the expression that shows Edie in this vid I think she hadn't been very dissapointed with this song,more,she would be very pleased that Lou say to her;"you're a femme fatale".Poor child,must Edie think,he loves me.
KobaStalin77 11 months ago
@KobaStalin77 she probably did think that, but ummm I wouldn't call that love.
saintjasin 11 months ago
@KobaStalin77 Actually, Lou Reed said he loves/loved Edie
jarileigh 6 months ago
@jarileigh I think that is very likely, consider the general feel of the song, which to me is an glowing ode over Edie, though not the individual words which are really scathing, some of it. But yeah, it was easy to fall in love with Edie,
MowgliX 6 months ago
@KobaStalin77 Lou Reed wrote this song for Nico, then Nico & Lou dedicated the song to her memory because it was special to both of them, the song was never meant to be about Edie. Patti Smith wrote a lovely poem about Edie when she heard of her death. The songs Dylan wrote that were inspired by Edie, & some of them clearly about her, were not kind, but then Dylan was often hardest on those he admired.
jarileigh 11 months ago
@jarileigh "Femme Fatale" is a song by The Velvet Underground from their 1967 debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico. At producer Andy Warhol's request, band frontman Lou Reed wrote the song about Warhol superstar Edie Sedgwick.[1] The song was released as a B-Side to Sunday Morning in December 1966.
you should know that story, Warhol called her a femme fatale. The "little boy" on the street in my opinion was Warhol and Lou was telling Andy that Edie was bad. He was right, unlike you...
saintjasin 11 months ago
@saintjasin Lou Reed was in love with Nico (who inspired this song), and he loved Edie, why would he tell Warhol that Edie was bad? That makes no sense, Nico is clearly more of a femme fatale than Edie was. They were/are both awesome women, both of them far from perfect. Nico was a functioning heroin addict for 10 years, & Edie had tons of personal problems. I admire the way that Edie dealt with more pain than any human should be subjected to in one lifetime.
jarileigh 11 months ago
@saintjasin About the movie "Factory Girl" that was meant to be about Edie, Lou Reed said "I read that script, it was the bulls%^% I have ever read, it's amazing how low some people will stoop to make a dollar" He's taking up for her because he knew the movie was so untruthful, I think it's sweet. And how can you call Edie "bad" when Nico did worse than she did, and you know nothing about her? Out of morbid curiousity, where did you read that Warhol ever "produced" anything, ever?
jarileigh 11 months ago
@saintjasin Okay, in the Lou Reed story, Andy supposedly asks Lou to write a song about Edie, & says "Don't you think she's a femme fatale?" But given the fact that the most common word people use to describe Andy is "passive" & the most common word people use to describe Edie is "vulnerable" it seems much more likely that Lou had Nico, who he was briefly obsessed with, in mind when he wrote the song. It certianly doesn't fit Edie's personality at all.
jarileigh 11 months ago
@saintjasin
I definately disagree with your comment about Edie being bad. And Andy was only producer in name, as Lou Reed said
"Of course he didn't know anything about record production—but he didn't have to. He just sat there and said "Oooh, that's fantastic," and the engineer would say, "Oh yeah! Right! It is fantastic, isn't it?" "
The Cult have a great song about her, Edie (Ciao Baby)
RX7Qball 9 months ago
@RX7Qball perhaps "bad" is not the right word... maybe "sad" is better
saintjasin 9 months ago
@jarileigh Oh yes, it was meant to be about Edie. In fact, it is about Edie, and Lou Reed has said so himself many times.
MowgliX 10 months ago
@MowgliX Lou and Nico dedicated this song to Edie after her death, "Little boy, she's from the streets" is the exact opposite of Edie, not only was she born priviledged, but also very isolated. Lou was very much in love with Nico, I'm sure the song was inspired by her/even if Lou said that, it was dedicated to her after her death by many other sources, I don't want to argue with you,lets agree to disagree, I love your videos :)
jarileigh 10 months ago
@jarileigh Right. She wasn't from the streets. I don't disagree with you at all. On the contrary: Edie was the perfect girl in my eyes, except that she had very serious emotional and mental problems and several terrible drug and medication addictions. I don't know if Lou was in love with Edie. Perhaps she rejected him, and maybe that's what the song is about. I think we can agree it's really a love song, a symbol of complete adoration for this girl, just as I love her unconditionally.
MowgliX 6 months ago
@jarileigh The song was released in 1967, and Edie was very much around then. It was dedicated to Edie while she was alive. Lou says so on a 1969 live recording I own myself.
MowgliX 6 months ago
why would you use this song for this girl...it's an insult to her memory.
XwhiterainX 1 year ago
@XwhiterainX read the text in the begining of the video...
Noriko95 1 year ago
@XwhiterainX good
saintjasin 11 months ago
I'm totaly infatuated with someone who died years before I was born...
BeTheDeathOfMe 1 year ago 3
Paris < everything else. End.
shadows08 1 year ago
she's a femme fatale.
130619080 1 year ago
That is a particularly odd thing to say, that Edie was Warhol's low point in art, considering the face that he adored her, and all standards, wanted to BE her. Many people said "Andy would have liked to have been Edie". And look up the list of songs & poems written about Edie, since during her lifetime to date. Who has written anything about Paris except that they "did" her?
jarileigh 1 year ago
@jarileigh I'd take a chat with Paris over Edie any day... And yeah. I think Warhols films were not the greatest. What he was doing in general is far more important or interesting than the films themselves. That's just my opinion. His high points, to me, were his graphic design career, his early "paintings", his Pop philosophy and his work with Basquiat. Edie is pretty, seductive and seems to have so much depth. But listen to the words of the song. Edie is shallow. There's nobody home.
saintjasin 1 year ago
@saintjasin WTF? Paris is shallow, there is NOTHING shallow about Edie, only someone who knows absolutely nothing about Edie would make such a remark, with Paris, there is definitely nobody home! No one who faced as much adversity as Edie did so early in life could possibly be shallow, it takes too much to overcome such adversity, it gives a person depth just to have survived it.
jarileigh 1 year ago
@jarileigh stop hassling me, woman... =)
saintjasin 1 year ago
@saintjasin What's more, I think you just hate the fact that I am right :) Edie inspired Bob Dylan's Blonde on Blonde, which is not only named after her (hair) but most of the songs are inspired/about her. She was a muse to Patti Smith, Lou Reed, Bob Dylan, Betsey Johnson, Warhol & L.M. Kit Carson, to name a few. She didn't seek the limelight, the light sought her, & her intelligence is undisputed. You may prefer to chat w/ Paris, but I assure you that when you knock, no one will be home!
jarileigh 1 year ago 26
@jarileigh she also inspired this song... she may fascinate you, but she disgusts me. If Paris represents everything that wrong with this country, Edie represents something terribly wrong with the individual. And when I was speaking of no one being home, I was more referring to no one being home in the sociopathic sense, but "stupid is as stupid does," so I would not call Edie a smart, to say the least. I respect your passion, but I am sick and tired of your arguments... add me on facebook =D
saintjasin 1 year ago
@saintjasin I just happen to strongly disagree & feel compelled to respond :) Paris is 100% fake on the inside & outside, she has no tits, no ass, no class! She is a brown haired, brown eyed nasty slut with the body of a boy & a funny looking nose! She'll do anything for publicity, releasing her sex tape right before her TV show, she comprehensively & positively represents everything that is wrong w/this country today. She would be nothing without her name.
jarileigh 1 year ago 13
@jarileigh Paris is sexy, poised, her every fluid movement glows with class sophistication and utter goddess on earth-ness. Her nose is cute, publicity makes her millions, and if you don't understand what she is doing, you're as airheaded as Edie Sedgewick... Oh and Paris if you're reading this? Holla! My number is 555-1212
saintjasin 1 year ago
@jarileigh paris is the fungii that grows on DOG SHIT ,and any one that admires her or her type mknows fuck all ,about anything ,they are displaying classic moronic symptoms,from watching shite tv +reading weekly magazines ,as its their whole life ,pathetic ,idiots ,,,
honkydudeman 1 year ago
@jarileigh "She is a brown haired, brown eyed..."?!!?
I'm certainly not a P.H. fan, but in your world only (busty) blondes with blue eyes can be considered attractive?
Ragnhild71 10 months ago
@Ragnhild71 I don't know what you are talking about, I have always thought Edie beautiful, and I don't think "busty blondes with blue eyes" are attractive unless it's natural and they can't help it. Ironically, I was raised as a Elite gymnasts, so my "ideal" body type that I have a preference to is pre-buecent. My career as a gymnast was cut short (I feel) due to my development & the fact that my genes were against me (my Mom & sister have huge ones)
jarileigh 10 months ago
@jarileigh Edie has the body of a boy too having tits and an ass has nothing to do with beauty.
worldbones 8 months ago
@jarileigh Edie Is Originally Brown Hair o_0 ?
Sixtiesera 6 months ago
@Sixtiesera She obviously was brown haired.
MowgliX 6 months ago
@MowgliX lol i know she's originally brown haired lol i really didn't mean for it to be a question haha even though there's a ?mark at the end lol
i was telling the guy talking about how paris hilton is not even originally blonde, so i told him edie's hair is not originally blonde either lol
Sixtiesera 5 months ago
@Sixtiesera Ahhh, irony... I completely missed it! :) Edie loved her brown hair, but she thought it would be cool to look like Andy I guess, so she used silver spray (!) sometimes, not only dye!
MowgliX 5 months ago
@MowgliX haha it's ok :)
and yeah i know, i like your channel background lol
Sixtiesera 5 months ago
@jarileigh he may have admired her charm, but he grew to despise her.
saintjasin 11 months ago
???? If Edie Sedgwick was Andy's low point in his 'art', then what's the highest? I will never EVER consider Andy Warhol an artist.
ChrissieBana 1 year ago 3
@ChrissieBana
lol
saintjasin 1 year ago
@ChrissieBana
I just looked at Wikipedia... Andy Warhol is an artist...yup...
saintjasin 1 year ago
I was 22 and just out of college when I read Edie. I worked in the corporate world by day and partied like a maniac at night from DC to NYC. I thought Edie was the coolest thing ever and tried hard to look and be like her (i NEVER touched drugs tho but drank a lot). Now in my 40's, I have about as much respect for her as I do for Paris Hilton which, as you can guess, is none. Amazing how you grow up and see so much waste. These people look like such losers to me now.
ferngullyful 1 year ago
@ferngullyful
I have more respect for Paris than Edie, I think Paris is a lot smarter and far more savvy. But the comparison you make is great. I can't get this Edie worship people have when she is the precedent for the shallow celebrity woman of today. In my opinion Edie was Andy Warhols low point in art. He used the girl, I feel sorry for her, and I wish she would have lived to maybe grow. But she gave us nothing by the way of character or soul. Very fitting Nico should be singing about her.
saintjasin 1 year ago
@saintjasin It's not a great respect for Edie that leads people to her, but rather a fascination for her extreme, contradictory, and complex nature. There is not much to fascinate one about Paris Hilton (and that isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's just the reason we don't care). Paris is only "business savvy" because her existence revolves around maintaining her wealth and celebrity status. Aside from her knowledge of publicity generation, she is an unimaginative dolt.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
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saintjasin 1 year ago
@xXPinkGoddessXx there is nothing complex about Edie. She was a stage prop at worst, and a bad actress at best. Warhol used her for her charisma, and her shallowness allowed it. I am sorry you feel that way about Paris though. She is very intelligent. As a personal brand she built of the worlds most valuable. She's not too popular with hipsters & liking Edie is so chic, but who likes hipsters anyway? Watch "The Simple Life". At least Paris can act!! oh..don't tell me..you thought it was real?=|
saintjasin 1 year ago
@saintjasin You don't call someone who gave the outward appearance of being joyous but was hurting deeply on the inside, complex? Someone who lived life with effervescence but was committing a perpetual slow-motion suicide? An exhibitionist who embraced people wholeheartedly yet was terrified of revealing herself and forming emotional bonds? Someone who gave herself the freedom to do anything she wanted to, but was psychologically trapped by past abuse? I could go on all day.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago 2
@xXPinkGoddessXx I am sure you could.
saintjasin 1 year ago
@saintjasin What makes you think Paris is intelligent? In every interview I've watched her, she has absolutely nothing to say and zero imagination, wit, flair, or knowledge of any kind to demonstrate. Robots have more magnetism. Building her personal brand didn't take intelligence. Anyone born with an inheritance and famous name can make a public spectacle of themselves, cash in on it, and then peddle awful products to unsuspecting 13 year old girls. Does acting like a fool count as "acting"?
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
@saintjasin You call making sex tapes to get your name in the tabloids and not wearing underwear savvy? And when she was in a movie had to be told repeatedly by the director that she was not playing herself? Edie was smarter stoned off her ass than Paris will ever be. And if the ONLY thing Edie ever accomplished is being a muse, great art from Dylan to Patti Smith to The Cult....on and on, who will be moved by Paris to write great songs,etc that will last forever (Blonde on Blonde)?
jarileigh 1 year ago
@jarileigh you wrote this on Christmas Eve and thats lame. Anyway, the original discussion was a comparison of two people famous for being famous. People famous for being famous do wtf they want. Sex tapes drugs etc... Thing about Paris is she's turned herself into a brand that grosses hundreds of millions a year. Edie was shunned by The Factory and died broke and smacked-out. But thank God for Edie ... because without Edie the Edie fans would probably be Nico fans. And that would be blasphemous
saintjasin 1 year ago
More proof that some women look prettier with short hair than long hair. Edie was beautiful with long hair but to me, I think she was gorgeous with her hair cut short.
debjean63 1 year ago
great job with the compilation
ozsweet 1 year ago
esta es su cancion. mujer fatal. hermosa melodia para una hermosa mujer.
katitaxunxita 1 year ago
Oh yes, the heavenly beautiful Edie Sedgwick, she was one of a kind.
MowgliX 1 year ago
she looks like a mix of Jennifer Garner, Rachel Bilson, and Sienna Miller.= Edie Sedgwick.
DK1993 1 year ago
@DK1993 Edie is one of a kind!
jarileigh 1 year ago
among all the american movie stars , divas, beauties,legends from the past and the present...she's my number one...am so in love with her....
jij55555 1 year ago
@jij55555 I agree, she was unique, one of a kind.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@jij55555 She is number one to me too, so beautiful and pure, but she was a very, very troubled person. In her lifetime, I don't think she ever realized what kind of potential she had. She could have been as big as the biggest movie stars at the time, but as you know she was emotionally extremely unstable and she was a slave to drugs, especially amphetamines, tranquilizers and barbiturates, and probably an alcoholic too.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@jij55555 Me too, I love her. I will go back and save her. I guess we have all fallen under her spell, 45 years later. :) We are her faithful fans.
MowgliX 1 year ago
i love her!!!
MyValentina95 1 year ago
I really do love this... quite a lot.
johntaylor611 1 year ago
I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!!!!
inga1200 1 year ago
@inga1200 So do I, it's the number one song ever. And as you no doubt know, Femme Fatale is about Edie. Lou Reed wrote it about her.
MowgliX 1 year ago
Whats that around her arm? in most clips
mir232 1 year ago
@mir232 It's a big plastic bracelet. The 60's popularised some pretty wacky jewelry.
xXPinkGoddessXx 1 year ago
The black and white footage from Manhattan was shot in 1967 and the color scenes from Santa Barbara and Los Angeles were done in 1970-71. I love Edie. She was the loveliest, sweetest girl ever.
MowgliX 1 year ago
i fucking love this song
DUBSAC69 1 year ago
a life thrown away for what?
oldblue125 1 year ago
sixties popular culture is peculiar
thedeadgirlXVIII 1 year ago
@malditoinvierno The information is right, look "Femme Fatale" is a song by The Velvet Underground from their 1967 debut album The Velvet Underground & Nico. At producer Andy Warhol's request, band frontman Lou Reed wrote the song about Warhol superstar Edie Sedgwick"
VeryCrazyMari 1 year ago
@VeryCrazyMari And Lou Reed was infatuated with her.I think most men&women were.
apokryphos117g 1 year ago
didn't Lou wrote the song for Nico? Warhol said the velvets needed a femme fatale, thus introducing nico..
Lithiummaxi 1 year ago
@Lithiummaxi No, it was written by Lou Reed for Edie Sedgwick whom they knew and who danced for The Velvet Underground.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@Lithiummaxi No, again, it is sung by Nico, or sometimes Lou Reed or John Cale, but it is *about* Edie Sedgwick.
MowgliX 1 year ago
I thought Nico wrote this song.
MrGethsemane 1 year ago
Doctor Robert
MrSueVeneer 1 year ago
She's beautiful.
AyNoobyNoobers 1 year ago
thank you for this itomie9..........well done!
newyorkeastside 1 year ago
ahhhh this one's my favorite!
xSugarPlumGumDropsx 1 year ago
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@xSugarPlumGumDropsx thank you for this itomie9..........well done!
newyorkeastside 1 year ago
Thanxxx. Nice video.
LauraLeonTolstoy 1 year ago
k, this is a long shot but i think at 2:05 that building on the right is Battersea power station. probably wrong =]
ididntwriteanamehere 1 year ago
@ididntwriteanamehere The structure with four smokestacks, on the other side of the East River, is the old Schwartz Chemical Company factory in Long Island City, built in 1906 as a power station for the Pennsylvania Railroad.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@ididntwriteanamehere They are standing on an overpass near the intersection of E 42nd St and 1st Avenue at roughly 28 Tudor City Place in Tudor City. The overpass is still there just as it was then - you can see it in Google Earth - even the metal railings are identical. It goes across East 42nd Street at Tudor City Place. The low-slung building with a flat, slightly curved roof behind Edie is part of the UN Building in Manhattan. The camera is facing east across the East River.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@ididntwriteanamehere Edie, facing west, would have had a view of the Chrysler Building straight ahead from her vantage point.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@ididntwriteanamehere The building with the curved roof behind Edie is the Dag Hammarskjöld Library, donated by the Ford Foundation and renamed in the former UN Secretay General's honor in 1961. The interior of that building is quite spectacular.
MowgliX 1 year ago
Edie was so special. I mean, here we are, in April 2010, and the pictures of the gorgeous Edie were shot in 1965-67. Her face, voice and moves still captivate a large audience over 40 years later. Some of her fans are older than me, but a large proportion are younger! Why is that? Does history sometimes make an exception and skip one or two generations? I believe that happens sometimes. She's a great mystery to me. How can someone so adorable and talented destroy herself in such a horrible way?
MowgliX 1 year ago
Factory girl!
sjk72 1 year ago
am i the only one that noticed at 2:11 old dude was sniffing coke from his glasses?! lol
unique216 1 year ago
lol
ninitis87 1 year ago
@unique216 Old...? I'd say he's about Edie's and Pat Hartley's age there. About 23 or 24.
MowgliX 1 year ago
@MowgliX oh no thats just slang i didnt mean literally
unique216 1 year ago
wow it's a great art work,I like it
Rahdiyandj 1 year ago
ginsberg! (1:09)
juanische 1 year ago
Beautiful song and tribute to a tragic beauty
sookietex 2 years ago 10
i like the footage.
VanBurleigh 2 years ago 6
She is so beautiful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
masbukk 2 years ago 2
most beautiful!
kmdn1 2 years ago 2
I <3 EDIE
rbd7 2 years ago 2
VeryCrazyMari 2 years ago