Second American Revolution: Rousas John Rushdoony (5 of 9)

[ChesapeakeBeach]

This old guy is dead, just like the ideas he espoused. Those of us who are atheists can be thankful (thankful to whom I don't know, nobody I suspect.)

[o0splitpaw0o]

Your preaching would be illegal during the eyes of the Catholic run England, hence why you protestantism, Baptist, all you spun-off were dejected out of the England. Washington, Jefferson saw how Catholic Government control, had made witch spectacles of watching women burn & Irish men burn & be gutted right in front of little children. If this is the society you want, well megadeath it will be.

[jcr4runner]

@o0splitpaw0o But this is not government under the authority of God.

[garys737]

Great man.........................

[junkkaddress]

Theonomists are antichristian. Jesus says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" implying that none is without sin, thus he destroys any death penalty for religious purposes. But these Satan worshipers claim to be Christian and teach that Christians should put idolaters to death?!?!! There is a special place in hell for such Calvinist loons.

[androcracy]

junkkaddress does not know Jesus Christ very well if at all, so how can he judge what is anti-Christian? Please remember that Jesus is the author of the "Law of Moses". Junk-buddy is trying to quote from John chapter 8 and is trying to use it as evidence that Jesus didn't affirm stoning. Sadly it only proves his ignorance of Gd's laws, provision, Love and especially his Holiness. If Jesus would have approved of this stoning he would have become an accomplice to rebellion and lawlessness.

[richardruhe]

-sorry to tell ya, He did. 'Let him...throw the first stone'

Nevermind that it probably isn't in the original text/nevermind that the one to throw the stone is the one who is witness-prob. not there at the time...why????

[AmbassadorOfHeaven]

What is the punishment for Treason against your own country? Most countries that I know death. The same result against God's kingdom! If you want to commit Treason against God, then your punishable by death. It is as simple as that, why can't people get that across their lukewarm minds?

[chalcedonite]

Adultery takes two. Where was the man? God's law requires that both be punished. Jesus says "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" means that the adulteresses were many and adulterers were those stone throwing men. Jesus was pointing out the unjust law. He will destroy death but never the death penalty, God does not change. It was not His law they were attempting to minister. I think you need to get your facts straight...connect the dots. Man is not the lawgiver.

[jcr4runner]

That's a very good point:

1. From a biblical perspective, if capital punishment is done away with for certain crimes, do we still consider these vile acts crimes? And if so, what should the civil penalty be?

2. If we mortal human beings, with flawed wisdom, are the ones to decide what the civil penalty is, then what makes it just? If we decide that grand theft auto deserves the death penalty, why would that be wrong? If we fine a child rapist $50 would that be right?

[daveymaxine]

@junkkaddress There is a certain irony, don't you think, it condemning to eternal hell those who uphold the death penalty.

[stevesometimes]

i quite liked part 4, the last one, he's a bit of an anarchist innit? everyman rules himself under god... if washington is god i'm an atheist

[kushisaac]

amen to that!!!

[PhiloCentinel]

I know that your comment is really really old, but I'm going to respond anyway. Everyman rules himself under god? That's the exact opposite of what theism means. Everyman is slave to god, in Rushdooney's view. Under Mosaic law, which he has advocated reinstating, people can be executed for lying about thier virginity. That's not tyrannical? I'm practically an anarchist myself, and Rushdoony is no where near anarchism, he desires celestial North Korea.

[jcr4runner]

You have no understanding of Rush's view.

He always taught regeneration and then reformation, not that the institution of biblical law through the death penalty. How absurd! You know nothing of his writings and have obviously never read one book of his.

Theonomy gives far more freedom than a false autonomy. Under biblical law, we'd be protected from murderous regimes far more than under the system we've had for the past 100 years.

[jcr4runner]

Hear this in context please. Romans 13 says that the state or civil magistrate is "God's minister." In American history, we always assumed this was true, but it is a "new and a modern thing that we turn to the state's law" when it contradicts God's law -- that is the context of what Rush is saying here.

[JonWRowe]

New and modern thing that we turn to the state's law? Maybe he should read Romans 13.

[shaver215]

If Man Law tells us to do something that is contradictory to God's Law, should we obey? Peter thought Not, for it is better to obey God than man. The fact the Rom 13 says that the govt. is God's minister should tell you that they are to uphold God's laws. When they don't they are disobeying God and breaking His laws. Hence, we have turned away from God's laws and have been obeying the state's laws which have departed from the foundations of Biblical law.