I live in England, and was 9 when it happened, Spent a lot of time researching this on the net. You are not alone in your concerns! Thanks for your sharing info. I have yet to read any books on this, but what I know already is convincing. How evil can it get, government hitmen and mafia bumping off a President, and dozens of witnesses! God bless you! Its depressing but there is a lot to live for, and be happy for. Those hitmen and their media henchmen! do they look in the mirror?
@Wisemanifold It was such an evil act and probably these hitmen never even think twice because that's the way they are programmed. Many of them allegedly were killed by sundown.
I found a garage sale book for a dime back in 1986 written by some of the spooks and pentacon ppl Kennedy fired, published in September of 63 warning of the danger to national security by JFK as president. Lost it yrs ago. More careful of who borrows what now.
Would like that as a resource now...
This book sounds wild....always new things to raise a brow...
It is her contention that plans were changed on the 22nd?
@Disdain4Lies Thanks:) That sounds like it would have been a great book. I was surprised I could still order Jean Hill's book. This book you can't put down and I read it in one day.
Yes, i just discovered this info in Jim Garrison's excerpt taken from his book "On the Trail of the Assassins". That's what you call, "a coup d'etat".
The original, planned route was supposed to take Kennedy straight down Main St. They couldn't have hit him if he was to take that route. Kennedy was so exposed, there was no way he should not have been covered, protected by tighter security and agents.
@One7823 Yes, it was a coup d'etat. They changed the motorcade route at the last minute from what I recall. You're right that they never should have exposed JFK to those bldgs. There's a vid on YT where you can see a secret service agent on the right rear side being called from the car behind. He puts his hands up like wtf? LBJ ducks down when his limo turns on Elm St. Caroline just had Jackie's tapes released. Jackie says LBJ and a rich Texas tycoon had him killed.
Same M.O. for Bobby - he was re-directed through the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel at the last minute. Oh yeah, and that pesky death shot from behind - Sirhan Sirhan was at least 3 feet in front and of course,as President,he was GOING TO GET THEM ALL. The killers write the history/lies to our children and destroyed our country. As an add-on, Princess Diana's car was replaced at the last minute and the normal route to Dodi's apartment was changed as well. These people use the same script.
autoad stated "I produced the video showing a book that you said never existed".
That indicates he is David Von Pein, disinformation producer of youtube videos. autoad outed himself.
Von Pein wanted me to see video: THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: BEYOND CONSPIRACY" (ABC-TV)(PART 9). Pein tried to prove Oswald was an excellent shot because Hoover's "piss" doctor and CIA lacky, John Lattimer, said so.
Pein's outing statement on: Newly Discovered Footage of JFKs Final Moments. autoad = David Von Pein
It was Emory Roberts who ordered the two agents off the rear of JFK's limo as seen in the video "Secret Service Stand down".The driver of the follow up car told Vince Palamara that Roberts also ordered agents to "Stay Put" during the shooting.
About the head moving forward. Greer put the breaks on the limo, more than once. NO seat belts in cars, or limos, in 1963. A close look shows Greer and Kellerman almost kissing the limo windshield. But, the other 4 occupants show no forward movement at the same time. Another proof of film fraud alterations.
You have probably seen the bloody shirt and coat picture, therefore have seen the middle back entry wound. A rifle shot into your back when sitting will certainly move you a bit.
@oIdmac1 When the limo approached the TSBD it almost came to a complete stop. I think it was travelling at 12.2 mph. Kennedy was first shot in the throat. The fatal headshot is in the front right temporal lobe thrusting Kennedy backwards. Testimony from Parkland Hospital states that the back of his head was blown out. This would be the exit wound.
@mia0899cs Not only near a complete stop approaching the corner, the limo was said to almost run over the curb. It did completely stop seconds later for the assassins. That 12.2 figure comes from govt. sources, so it must be another lie.
@mia0899cs witnesses including cops said it stopped immediately after the first shot hear. It started again after the last shot. There were more than 3 shots.
autoad is another screen name for Thomas Lowery, a known pro-CIA freak.
The 6th floor shots are now proved impossible because of the criminal president gerald ford confessing to moving the rear back bullet wound up several inches to the back of the neck. There are NO photos to support a rear neck shot.
net to Mary Moorman and you can see the press bus driving by. She also said she saw a little white dog in the back seat of the limo next to Jackie and JFK. There was no dog in the car.
Jean Hill wanted to become famous and sadly, she's mislead thousands of people with a story that was clearly manufactured.
@autoad They tried to really discredit Jean Hill because she said she saw a white little dog. It was Jackie's white purse. It was a mistake but it was enough to discredit her eyewitness account of the assassination of JFK.
The "little white dog" are asters that were given to Jackie at Love Field
Jean Hill discredited herself. As I said before, I'll send you the links to Jean Hill speaking to a television reporter where she clearly states what she saw and what she did not. I'll send you her Warren Commission testimony and you can read what she told them. You already have her book. Check out pages 23-24 where she gives the new and improved account of what she saw.
@autoad Yes, please provide the link. In her book she said Arlen Specter came to her house with a court reporter. However, Jean Hill asked Arlen Specter why the court reporter wasn't typing as she was giving her deposition for the Warren Commission Report. Jean Hill also said that she never signed the depo and Arlen Specter used it as testimony anyway. He was very corrupt in my opinion. One thing I know is JFK was shot in the right temporal lobe. The exit point was the back of his head.
@mia0899cs There's no evidence JFK was shot in the right temporal lobe. The medical evidence shows the shots that struck him came from above and behind. There's an entry wound to his back that's confirmed by the inward direction of the fibers from his jacket and shirt. There's an exit wound to his throat which is confirmed by the fibers on the shirt collar and tie that shows an outward direction. All the bullet fragments found in the limo were to the front of JFK. The particulate matter from
@mia0899cs the head shot covered John and Nellie Connolly and Agents Greer and Kellerman. The "magic bullet" and all the bullet fragments were matched to the rifle on the 5th floor of the TSBD. The rife was owned by Oswald. Oswald was the only employee who fled the scene of the crime. Oswald was seen firing the rifle. His fingerprints were found on the trigger guard. Nobody saw anyone shooting at the president from the knoll. Lee Bowers had the best view of the area and he didn't see anyone
@mia0899cs shooting at the president. If the shot came from the front, and there's an exit wound to the back of his head, where did the bullet go? It didn't hit the Secret Service car that was only a few feet from the bumper of the presidential limo nor were any of the agents struck and there was no damage done to the trunk of the limo and it didn't strike anyone in the crowd. So where did it go?
I'll send you the information via your address. YouTube doesn't like links sent in postings
@autoad You can clearly see in the Zapruder film that he was struck in the right temporal lobe. He is thrust violenly backward. The Doctors and nurses at Parkland Hospital even testified to this on the Warren Commission report. People started running towards the Grassy Knoll. The cop behind the Presidential limi testified that JFK's brains and skull were all over him and the visor of his motorcycle.
@mia0899cs That's true. Some of the motorcycle police did say they were struck by particulate matter. But the limo was moving forward into wind gusts that reached 20 mph.Some of the matter was blown back in the direction of the police. The Drs. and nurses at Parkland were in a frantic rush to save JFK's life. They never conducted an examination of his body and they never turned him over. They didn't know about the entry wound to his back. Dr. Michael Baden, who lead the 9 person team of
@mia0899cs forensic pathologists for the HSCA believes that the brain, blood and tissue was running out of JFK's head and then down from the force of gravity. This could account for the appearance of the back of his head. Remember, the nine person panel of pathologists includes Dr, Cyril Wecht. All nine of them agreed there is no medical evidence of JFK being shot from the front or the side. What you're see in the Z-film is an exit wound. Entrance wounds are small-exit wounds are big.
@mia0899cs It is believed the violent motion of JFK's head is a neuromuscular reaction to the massive amount of brain trauma caused by the bullet. The muscles of the back are considerable stronger than those of the chest. When the brain was blown apart his body reacted in the manner shown in the Z -film. We've been exposed to too much "Hollywood" and films depict people being pushed in the same direction the bullet is traveling. The human body does not react that way in real life. The 6.5 mm
@mia0899cs bullet weighs about a quarter of an ounce. The average human head weighs 10-15 lbs. An object that small in weight cannot move an average head that's attached to the torso with bone, tissue, tendons, muscles with that kind of force. Look closely at the Z-film frame 313/314 and you'll see JFK's head move forward about 2 inches. That's about all the movement you'll see from a head that's been struck. The bullet is more like a dart than a boxing glove when is strikes the human body.
@autoad JFK's head does move forward first a little and than is violently thrust backward. When it was first reported by the media and Dan Rather, Rather states that JFK's head was thrust forward which it wasn't. This was a lie. For JFK to be shot in the right temporal lobe(the front) he would have been past the TSBD and it would mean Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't have made the fatal head shot. Docs and staff @Parkland Hospital testified that JFK's back of head(skull) was blown off(exit point.)
Some people are good witnesses and some people are not. Jean Hill was not a good witness. Not because she got things she thought she saw wrong, but she was wrong about the things she said she did.
She said that she remained standing while the shots were fired. She said she ran across the street immediately to find the gunman. Neither is true. She's shown in photographs sitting on the ground next to Mary Moorman. She didn't run across the street immediately. There are photos of her standing
from what she told the media within hours of the assassination, and her testimony to the Warren Commission. I have organized this information and would be happy to send it to anyone who would like to review if for themselves. You will soon discover that Jean Hill changed her story significantly. Her claims of being roughed up by the Secret Service or the police moments after the assassination do not make sense when you see her television interview. But you'll clearly see in her book how her
It is pure fiction that the motorcade route was changed. The two proposed locations where JFK was to give a luncheon speech was the Women's Building located at the southern end of town and the other was the Trade Mart off the Stemmons Freeway. The motorcade had to travel down Elm Street to access the Stemmons Freeway. You can't get on the Stemmons from Main.
I suggest folks should read Jean Hill's book "JFK-The Last Dissenting Witness" in order to fully appreciate how she changed her story
@autoad The motorcade route was changed and they even put it in the paper. Arlen Spector is the one who discredited Jean Hill. He also discredited the Doctors and nurses who first treated JFK at Parkland Hospital. This was the biggest conspiracy! The question is, "Who ordered it?"
@mia0899cs I bet you've never read Jean Hill's testimony to the Warren Commission. I'll be happy to send you the web address so you can read it in an unedited version.
Arlen Spector di not discredit Jean Hill. You'll clearly see in her testimony he was respectful towards her. But you should see the things Jean Hill said about Mark Lane. Now that's interesting!
There is zero evidence of a conspiracy. It's complete foolishness to keep repeating that accusation. You have no evidence to support it.
Hi Cindy,there is a lot of evidence of a conspiracy.I notice Jean Hill in a red raincoat, and Mary Moorman taking a picture in the Zapruder film.Mary's picture was taken right at the fatal head shot which knocked Kennedy backwards.and towards Jackie.This shot could not have come from behind,but I am sure you will hear a lot of nutty explanations why it could.It was near impossible.The doctors at Parkland Hospital and several witness said this.Why did the Warren Commission try to say differently?
@GGE47 Why did they show the exit wound in front when it was clearly from the right and back of the head?They even altered the gun shot in the back which knoced him forward.They raised it to the neck so they could fabricate the majic bullet baloney.Arlen Spector,a lawyer hired by the Warren Commission invented that nonsense and I am glad his days as a US Senator are over.There is a video showing secret service agents from FDR to Obama.It shows several pics of Kennedy's motorcade.leading up the
@GGE47 assassination.It shws ss agents all over the car including the rear bumper.Even angent Rybka was ordered down by Emory Roberts at Love Field you still have to wonder why.They were turning onto a road which took them to Main St.It was only 7 miles through the downtown area to Housto St. and to Elm St.The author of this video gives his opinion of why Kennedy did not order to keep ss agents off his bumper.I have not read Jean's book but what you have read makes me wonder.
I am re-posting this because I never hear a response to this fact: The motorcade went down Elm because it had to. You cant go north on Stemmons to the trade mart by going straight through main street. there is a cement curb that separates you from the Stemmons ramp. It is visible in contemporary footage, and on Google Earth still today. It appears that they HAD to take elm.
@LoneNutter1 Jean Hill's book is not the only place that I got this piece of info. They weren't going to go past the TSBD. The motorcade route change was even in the newspaper as I recall. As they turned onto Elm, I think it was, LBJ ducked down in his car. Check out some vids on here where you can clearly see a secret service agent walking at the left rear of the limo and he is called from behind. He puts his hands up, "Like what?!" and leaves the limo unattended. Their the facts.
@mia0899cs I don't place much credibility with what Jean Hill had to say about the assassination and the events prior to and after JFK was killed. She changed her story significantly 29 years after the assassination. Her motive for doing so would be purely speculative but the fact remains, she changed her story.
The route the motorcade was going to take was dictated by the selection of the final destination. There were two possible locations for JFK to give a speech that day. One was the Dallas
@mia0899cs Trade Mart and the other was the Women's Building located at the fairgrounds. This building was old, the air conditioning ductwork was exposed and was considered not to be a very nice building for the president. The Trade Mart was bigger, brighter, newer but it had a suspension bridge/catwalk that spanned the interior of the building. There were security concerns regarding this location due to the bridge but this became the planned location for the president's speech. If the Women's
@mia0899cs Building had been chosen, the motorcade would not have passed by the Depository. But it was the politicians who selected the Trademart as the destination.The best way to get there was the Stemmons Freeway and the best way to get to the Freeway was to enter by Elm Street. Contrary to what the conspiracy theorists have been saying you can't travel straight down Main St and bypass Houston and Elm to get to the Freeway. There's a concrete island/barrier that separates Main from Elm beyond
@mia0899cs the triple underpass. For the motorcade to be driving over that barrier would have been compromising the security of he president not to mention the damage that would have resulted from making this highly dangerous maneuver. The parade route was established by Agents Sorrels and Lawson and they used Main Street as the primary route through the city because it was the traditional parade route used as far back a 1936 when FDR traveled to Dallas. The Dallas police were briefed on the
@mia0899cs route on November 15th and they agreed it was the proper one. The route wasn't changed which is contrary to what some conspiracy authors have written.
LBJ was in the motorcade riding with Senator Ralph Yarborough. There was a political rift developing in the Democratic Party in Texas. One of the reasons JFK went to Texas was to get the rift under control. LBJ and Yarborough were not getting along and Yarborough didn't want to ride in the car with LBJ. Kennedy was firm, clear and
@mia0899cs and direct with Yarborough and told him he WAS going to ride with LBJ. The agent assigned to the protect LBJ was Rufus Youngblood. When the shots were fired Youngblood immediately jumped on top of LBJ to protect him. There have been lots of stories about what LBJ was doing just prior to the shots being fired. But there's no credible evidence linking the assassination of to LBJ. The conspiracy believers have been conjuring up stories about Johnson but sadly, they seem fixated on
@mia0899cs insinuating LBJ had some involvement yet offer no supporting evidence.
The video you reference that shows the Secret Service agent throwing up his hands was taken at Love Field. The motorcade was forming up and the presidential limo was leaving the tamac and departing the airport. It's much too assumptive to make a definitive conclusion as to what is actually going on. It's important to note that during the entire motorcade none of the agents rode on the running boards of the limo.
@mia0899cs It's also important to know that it was an extreme rarity for the agents to be on the running boards of the presidential limo during ANY motorcade while JFK was president. I've looked for any photograph that shows agents on the running boards during any motorcade in the USA or overseas and I've yet to see one. During the parade in Dallas Agent Hill did ride on the rear platform when the crowds got huge in downtown Dallas. His job was to protect Jackie and when the crowds spilled out
@mia0899cs on the street, Agent Greer moved the limo to the left side of the street to put more distance between JFK and the crowds. That meant Jackie was closer to the people on the left side of the street. During those moments Agent Hill rode on the rear bumper in a crouched position. JFK didn't like agents on the limo because he thought it gave a bad impression and it prevented the public from seeing him and especially Jackie.
I think it's improper to interpret the video and call it "facts".
@mia0899cs It would be wise to find out exactly what was said to the agent, who said it and what the exact reply of the demonstrative agent was. Without that essential information, any interpretation of the video is purely speculative.
Let's assume your interpretation of the video showing the Secret Service agent putting his hands into the air is correct. Let's say he has been instructed to leave the presidential limo unattended.
@mia0899cs Actually, the agent, Don Lawton, was on the right rear. He was not called back; his job that day was to advance the departure from Love Field, enroute to Austin. What he was gesturing about was this: "Hey, have a nice drive, boys! I'm going to lunch! Hhaha!".
Skeptics of the cross-dressing jacobji5 story point to Susan Rosenstiel's poor credibility and say recklessly indiscreet behavior by Hoover would have been totally out of character whatever his sexuality. Most biographers consider the story of Mafia blackmail to be unlikely in light of the FBI's investigations of the Mafia, which had already put over 650 made members in prison by the time of JFK's death.
Soory about the video I recommended below. it is not the correct video to see J Edgar Hoover in female clothing. This provides proof that he was controlled by the CIA and others who had the pictures. Hoover was in charge of nearly all of the assassination disinformation given to the Warren Commission criminals.
Soviet Archives : Revealed evidence there was a Soviet campaign to discredit the US which used allegations of homosexuality to discredit JEH. JEH's biographer Richard Hack "JEH was romantically linked to actress Dorothy Lamour & that after JEH's death, Lamour did not deny rumors that she had had an affair with JEH". Hack additionally reports that during the 1940-50s, JEH so often attended social events w/Lela Rogers, that many assumed the pair would eventually marry
It wasn't to get closer to shooters. You cant go north on stemmons to the trade mart by going straight through main street. there is a cement curb that separates you from the stemmons ramp. you have to take elm. regarding the grassy knoll shooter- it makes a 25 yrd shot a 60 yard shot, which is nothing for a rifle with a scope.
Wonder no more. See J Edgar Hoover wearing a female's hair bun on the back of his head, and wearing a bra with fake boobies under his shirt. Hoover is an ugly bitch homo in drag in front of the big oil felons from Texas.
Youtube video: J.Edgar Hoover his oil friends and his non existant mafia #1
@jacobji5 I will check it out. They were all in on it. It was the day we lost our Country. Exec order 11110 is still in effect from JFK which means the Federal Reserve was being eliminated. Silver certificates were printed with no promissory note on the money.
i saw a vid that suggested that the mob had a pix of JEH with a mouhful of his "buddy" Clyde Tolson. That pix and his love of betting on fixed hrse races at Del Mar alowed the mob to keep him check.
mia looks like she is on seriously sick illicite drugs. probably crack/meth. mental problems galore. who in their right mind would breast feed a 8 year old?
The CIA is actively engaged in altering the JFK conspiracy history on Wikipedia. A year ago there was only 1 magic bullet. Now, there are 3. All of them labeled ce-399. The CIA is shown removing a small section of the front-side of a bullet. Lousy job of alteration. Obviously it is a pixel removal.
"Over the postwar years, we have granted to the elite and secret police within our system vast new powers over the lives and liberties of the people. At the request of the trusted and respected heads of those forces, and their appeal to the necessities of national security, we have exempted those grants of power from due accounting and strict surveillance."
--House Majority Leader Hale Boggs (D), in a speech before Congress, 22 April 1971
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WTF is Boggs saying? Granted to the elite? Secret SS?
gamercenation go 2 hell obama-- go 2 hell bush -go 2 hell clinton go 2 hell all of congress- go 2 hell senate--- the UNITED STATES SENATE has 6 letters in the first name- 6 letters in the second & 6 letters in the last name equals = 666 the mark of the beast A curse on the USA it is EVIL the mayflower rose from the sea-- the mark of the beast in matthew 18-6 Christ condems those who have ANY PART IN KILLING CHILDREN interpert revalations right & U will know the truth!
See video: JFK Assassination - Pink Rose - A song about Jackie.
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At 1:30-34 see the man in white shirt & hat/helmet next to the light pole.
All the people after him going toward the bridge do not match # of people & clothes color on the Z film. This picture proves Z film alterations.
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And all 4 cycle cops are not behind the limo, as the Z film implies. We would have seen at least the right-side cycle cops shoulders / heads / helmets.
See the Nix video by Zysiex. It doesnt match the Zapruder video. There are 4 people missing on the Z video. Proof of alterations.
Nix film.
At 0:16-0:17 after the fall-down guy, count the people with the kid. There are 6, including a WHITE SHIRT MAN & WOMAN on the middle grass area between the streets.
At 0:17 there are 4 more people, including a WOMAN & CHILD on grass closer to Main St.
Also on the Zapruder film, notice the row of people at the bottom (to the left of the sign). They appear to be cut out of a different, earlier period of filming as these people are not reacting to the president as he drives by..
In many cases they aren't even looking in the direction of the president...
Testimony of Roy Kellerman, SS agent, front seat, JFK limo
"I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots.
But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connolly three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen."
@somethgblue69 Loser! Don't you know how to click view all comments??!!!! Get a life and stop making a fool out of yourself. You probably can't read and comprehend this so it will be difficult. Ask your mother who you still live with at 69.
wHAT grade are you in? You are totally immature little douchebag about 8 year old I bet. Young, dumb, fat, ugly and stupid is no way to go throught life loser!! SOUND FAMILIAR? WHAT GRADE ARE YOU IN?
roflmao look at little silly tard. She actually thinks she said something profound. Hey people TRUTH EXISTS!!! ROFLMAO NO SHIT SHERLOCK tell us something we don't know. wow look at little dumbass she actually thinks it's a sign of high intelligence cause she finally figured out fICTION IS CREATED! WOW-WEE What other obvious shit that everyone alread knows do you want to tell us about like it's some pithy highly intelligent revelation when in fact it's just plain imbecility? SOUND FAMILIAR?
Look at the chimp - she learned about Pavlov's dog and thinks she's really intelligent to know what we all learned in Psych 101 years ago. She actually thinks 99% of the public does not know about that and fancies herself some intellect cause she just leard about Pavlov. GET OVER PAVLOV OK DOPE? Uh KNOW is spelled like that dope. Not "no". You should work on your writing skills you come across as white-trailer-trash Ebonics speaker. Uh you insulted me so I guess that was ok for you to do it?
You said that swearing meant someone was not intelligent. SOUND FAMILIAR? So I pointed out lots of world leaders that swore like sailors and were very intelligent too!! So swearing is by now means signs of inferior intelligence fool. Yes in that regard I am like them!! I swear and I am intelligent. Yes!! Glad you just proved to be of such low, inferior intelligence that you can't even understand that point and go off and say that I was comparing myself to them in other regrards.
yea right no kidding tony-tony does this SOUND FAMILIAR? THEY probably have her in diapers as she's about 100 and has no bowel control and probably shits her pants every 10 minutes and gets fed only oatmeal as the bitch is toothless. She's undoubetly a wretched old fucking ancient granny with a whiskers and bo so don't even try to figure her out bitch has gone senile it's clear. I't like she's ahveing a conversation that only she understands. Like speaking martian don't try to figure it out
your fucked up comments would be comical if anyone know what the fuck you were mumbling and rambling on about like a first-rate idiot. I suppose in your own mind you know what you mean but to the outside world you are just a tard who makes no sense.
looks like you are one of the sheeple as YOU watch tv & I don't OH-she learned a new word sheeple & thinks it is cutting edge or somethng. what a delusional tard she is. NObody knows what you are saying so that's what requires interpretations and is no way sign of a 6 year old but yoiur sentence structure certainly is. SOUND FAMILIAR? yOU REMIND ME of a monkey -the higher you climb in the tree the more we see you are an ass. Imbecillic rants is all your jibberish diahrea spew amounts to.
Were JFK, Winston Churchill, DeGaulle or Franklin Roosevelt intelligent? YES gee each of them SWORE LIKE SAILORS so I just made a fool of you as your premis is totally wrong. YOU are conditioned by tv I told yoiu i DON'T WATCH TV FOOL. I am conditioned by books, papers, libraries fool. your dumbass premise assumes everyone watches tv and many people don't fool. NObody knows what you are talking about anyways as you have no command of English and are totally incoherent.
Great Moments in Incoherency and MOONBATISM by somethgblue69 "Hollywood has been trying to condition the American sheeple for the last sixty years to buy the lie, looks like your convinced!" uh the douce was actually talking about tv and violence here - supposedly. only an idiot wouldn't know that sentence is totally incoherent. and evidence of her white-trailer-trash Ebonics education.
you said hollywood dumbass that means movies to everyone but a dumbass retard like you. I don't watch tv but that explains YOUR behaviour but your premise that tv violence leads to actual violence is preposterous and just shows what a dumbass you are as there is no evidence of that what-so-ever. If you look at crime rates now vs prior to advent of tv - the crime rates have dropped fool. Way to go talk about something whereby yoiu don't know your ass from a hole in the ground!
somethgstupidblue69 - you remind me of a monkeyh - the higher you climb in the tree the more we see you are an ass. I personally do not buy your gullible, sheeple dumbass sucker beliefs. keep sleepwalking and drinking the coolaid. If it really happend your way - you wouldn't need a commission. oh wait WHERE DID I SAY I WAS A PROPONENT OF WC? DUH I DIDNT DUMBASS. Uh I hate to tell you but the hsca had the wool pulled over it's eyes too fool. Truth will out all else is false!
somethgbluedope69 - it's called debate fool. Hollywood? who is talking about hollywood? hollywood has nothing to do with it fool. I myself have pointed 100's of errors and lies IN the jfk movie as well as tmwkk. show me where ever said a hollwywood movie was a source? perhaps for idiots like you. it's c;lear you are a sheeple cool aid drinker no difference then the people who drank Jim Jone's cool-aid. As PT Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute so we know where you came from
mia - I saw an investigation on the route of the motorcade. It might have been by the hsca - I'm not sure but it was quite definitive - I believe the parade route was printed in the newspaper ahead of time and IT WAS NEVER CHANGED. that is a myth that was proven erroneous by the facts. I'll try to see if I can find it and forward it to you but it was pretting convincing. Why would the cop NOT TELL about this if it was true? ok so Hoover would have coverd it up but I don't think this happened
Don't ever expect to see the real routing unless you can obtain the Dallas newspaper morning issue on Nov 22, 63.
Anything put out nowadays is going to be a sanitized version.
LIFE magazine (CIA operated) put out the lie ...shows the President turning his body far around to the right as he waves to someone in the crowd. His throat is exposed, towards the snipers nest, just before he clutches it.
LIFE put out this lie 4 times over the years from Dec 1963 to Nov 2003 editions.
Changed route means conspiracy plain and simple. How did Oswald know the route was going to be changed? He brought his rifle with him to work at the TSBD building before a route change was made as if he knew.
@whathoney73 Yes, I agree with you. So, if they are claiming that LHO made the fatal head shot well then he was part of the conspiracy. LHO was a patsy. He didn't fire any gun that day. He was paid regularly for the CIA. James Wilcott testified to that under oath and he knew this because he was responsible that he was his job in the CIA.
the route was not changed. that book is a lie this was investitgated by hsca and it was proven route was not changed. it wsaa published in the paper exactly as it occurred
I think he definitely knew about it. He leaned over in the car when he was turning onto the st. (Elm? where the TSBD is on. He knew that's where the shooting was going to occur.
Want to see the Cuban JFK murder conspirator, David Sanchez Morales, Operations Chief for CIA JMWAVE, and in the CIA assassination group labeled ZR/Rifle? Then look at the Zapruder film.
See Morales dressed in white clothes across the street, just after the freeway sign, and wearing a type of bullet proof vest. He holds out his hand and then lowers it.
Before Kevlar was developed in 1965, bullet proof material can look like a catchers or umpires padding.
that does not look like morales at all. he';s way to short morales was very big that dude is bald morales was not bald it doesn't evne look remotely like morales you are positively wrong. he's also much too old - he can be seen in the ballroom night rfk was killed which was 5 years later and the dude in z film is waaay older he is clapping that's the hand movement. one thing is odd besides the vest - he doesn't seem to turn as jfk passes? but would YOU stand in line of fire? NO
no you did not prove morales was there although he could have been there's another picture fo someone who DOES look like him in dealy plaza this dude you have is bald and way shortter does not look like him at all
the z film was developed the very same day and 3 copies made. it never left z's hands - if it was IMMEDIATELY develped and 3 copies made - when did they have time to alter it? it was also immediatly shown that day and the next day to 50 reporters - how come none of the reporters has ever said it was altered? how could it be altered AFTER people saw it? you would have to alter the copies too. How do you do that? Z testified at Shaws trial it had not been altered. there were 3 other films a
there were at least 3 other people who filmed the assass - you would have to alter them too but they matched z's film perfectly. there was approx 250 other still pictures taken - how would you fake all of them too? how could you know what the wounds would be and then have pictures made to alter what you wanted them to be when z's film was developed immediatly and shown immediately with copies made? it is not possible the z was altered - no how no way
the z film was developed the very same day and 3 copies made. it never left z's hands - if it was IMMEDIATELY develped and 3 copies made - when did they have time to alter it? it was also immediatly shown that day and the next day to 50 reporters - how come none of the reporters has ever said it was altered? how could it be altered AFTER people saw it? you would have to alter the copies too. How do you do that? Z testified at Shaws trial it had not been altered. there were 3 other films a
there were at least 3 other people who filmed the assass - you would have to alter them too but they matched z's film perfectly. there was approx 250 other still pictures taken - how would you fake all of them too? how could you know what the wounds would be and then have pictures made to alter what you wanted them to be when z's film was developed immediatly and shown immediately with copies made? it is not possible the z was altered - no how no way
they did not know for sure where the shots had come form - this was right after the assass and they hadn't investigated it yet. there is a video here that shows there was no possible shot from south knoll, overpass or grassy knoll. with the knoll - yes they could have hit kennedy but it was a lateral shot and would have hit jackie too. the head wound proved shots from the back due to beveling on inside of the skull plus oswald was seen in the window shooting
'Wound of Entry, part 2' at 6:30-6:40 shows the small entry bullet hole into the throat of Kennedy, just as Parkland hospital doctors said it was. This picture is the proof of the frontal shot (certainly not Oswald) BEFORE the doctor did the tracheotomy.
Notice on the picture the attempt to block out the 2nd entry shot from the front, above the right eye on the hairline. This picture is proof of 2 frontal shots, as the Parkland doctor said it was.
Arlen Specter discredited the Doctors, the Nurses and the whole staff at Parkland Hospital. I read that part of the Warren Commission Report. he said that their memory could have failed them. Everything is documented at a hospital at the time it occurs. I also saw that the back of JFK's skull was sewed and patched making it look like the bullet wound came from the back. Jackie wasn't going to leave her husband, but LBJ insisted when he was sworn in. That's the time I feel caskets were switched.
I have solved the mystery of why the hole in back of head did not show in autopsy photo!! I AM A GENIUS MYSTERY SOLVED!! McClelland tesifying before ARRB-DR. MCCLELLAND: "There was no hole on that picture that looked like that. And I said,. Well, I think I know what that is. I think it may be because if you notice there are some fingers at the top of the photograph apparently pulling a flap of scalp forward, and I think the flap was being pulled over that opening when they took the pictures."
DR. MCCLELLAND: So it wasn't a -- well, maybe I'm wrong. I mean, not unless I've taken leave of my senses entirely. There was a hole there and so my explanation of what was happening is here's this hand up in the wound and they sort of pulled it up
MR. GUNN: Dr. Peters, you've been nodding your head.
DR. PETERS: Well, I would certainly agree with what .Bob said. It was my thought exactly that they just kind of pulled that flap back into place and took a picture so they could show how it looked with things restored as much as possible and it just -- a flap just kind of -- had been torn back and now they were just kind of putting it back and snapping a picture.
I thought just exactly what Bob, did. They were probably making a series of pictures and
they had just pulled that flap back up there to cover it up and took a picture of that to show the head with the flap restored, so to speak, for whatever reason. I'm sure there were many other pictures that were made at the
mia - there are many other comments besides these that explain the skull was shattered from back to front - topo right quarter like a porcelein egg would be - ok you probably knowthat but the reason there was a hole in the back was that the entire quarter of skull fractrued and there were 3 flaps of scalp and skull that hung down that's what the parkland drs saw - in the autopsy picutres the flap exposing the hole in back is being held in place by the drs is all THIS SOLVES THE HOLE IN BACK
MR. GUNN: Could we talk about the neck wound for a minute? DR. PERRY: I'm the one that stuck my foot in my mouth, but actually it looked like an entrance wound and the bullet appeared to be coming at him and I based that mainly on the fact it was a small wound to the neck and without any other information. I prefaced those comments at the press conference both before and after by saying that neither Dr. cont
Clark nor I knew how many bullets there were or where they came from.
unfortunately my comment said it's an entrance wound, and it was taken out of context of the others, but I did say that small wound. As I mentioned earlier, however, I didn't take any measurements. I didn't wipe the blood off. just went through it and it was the thing to do at the time; had no concept about legal things. We did what we were trained to do
The head parkland dr has said that when jacketed bullets are used even drs who have seen 1000's of wounds can't tell an entry wound from an exit wound. with jacketd bullets - there is no tearing of the skin and he is positively on record saying he misspoke. I posted these quotes above but there are also other quotes he made describing how he had seen 1000's of wounds and could never tell entry from exit when jacketed bullets used. the skull wound is diff though cause the bone is beveled oninside
the Secret Service were part of the plot.The motorcycle cops were told to stay back and only two were needed.Agent Emory Roberts ordered agents to stay behind at the airport.Roberts also called agents off the limo before they got to dealey plaza.The driver of the follow up car admitted that Roberts ordered agents to stay put during the shooting.Agent Clint Hill ignored his order when he ran to the limo.Emory Roberts was also a good buddy of LBJ's and was given a nice White House job afterwards
He could be seriously because who else would sound so stupid and believe the LHO acted alone. It isn't possible. He could just be a wannabe cia agent. Maybe, he watched too many spy movies.
Yes, he is or he was told what to do. He was just a lawyer from Philadelphia and after the Warren Commission Report he became a Senator. I don't understand after reading the Warren Commission Report that his findings of fact are so absurd that anyone would believe him.
do you recall that part in jfk when costner/garrison is reading warren comm report saying 'ask the question' . Well, just read Greer at WC he said they rode at 25-35 mph and at some point 10/15mph. at no point did Arlon Spector ask a question like is that usual to go that slow?
Yes, the limo slowed down to 11.2 miles I believe it was right as they approached the TSBD. Arlen Spector was just a lawyer from Philly, and he cut up everybody's testimony. The Doctors and nurses at Parkland Hospital he said, "Well, you wouldn't remember what you saw." Well, they not only saw JFK when he was brought in and probably would never forget that and of course they had legal documents at the hospital. Spector discredited everyone.
wasn't Emory Roberts the guy that shooed away the two agents who were going to ride on the back of Kennedy's car at the start of the motorcade as they should have been? Yeah, driver Greer must have been part of it too. Nix film showed he practically stopped the car by the time of the head shot
I did see that vid on Youtube, but I didn't recall the name. There were two policemen on motorcycles riding at the back. Usually, there are two in the front as well. I think Greer would have had to known because he slowed down the limo to 11.2 miles at the TSBD.
The agent in charge Emory Roberts ordered agents to stay behind at the airport and during the shooting ordered agents to "stay put".Roberts was also good buddies with LBJ and was given a nice job as a white house aide after the murder.Also the limo driver slowed down during the shooting and looked back to make sure he was hit before speeding up.
I once went to a presentation by Rusty Rhodes, a JFK assassination researcher, where he showed a picture of LBJ's limo moments before the assassination. It looked as though Lady Bird was sitting by herself as if LBJ wasn't even in the car.
That must have been interesting. I read that LBJ leaned down when they made the turn shortly before the TSBD. Why would he do this if he didn't know? So, that's why Lady Bird looked like she was sitting by herself. He obviously didn't tell her either. Well, I guess he did have a mistress.
Thank you! My hair has changed so much since I have been on Youtube, lol! It did look nice here, but I still had that really curly perm. I am growing my hair really long and then donated some of it to children with cancer. I like my hair longer. When it did get cut, I used some hair extensions occassionally.
Went with a list of 30 books some yrs back to one of the chain book stores, and was aghast that only 2 we're in their system.....
Thinkin' LBJ gave the thumbs down to the trust factor in the coup faction that gave him the heads up...by hiding his...
Then was told step aside for Tricky Dick...
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Disdain4Lies 1 week ago
I live in England, and was 9 when it happened, Spent a lot of time researching this on the net. You are not alone in your concerns! Thanks for your sharing info. I have yet to read any books on this, but what I know already is convincing. How evil can it get, government hitmen and mafia bumping off a President, and dozens of witnesses! God bless you! Its depressing but there is a lot to live for, and be happy for. Those hitmen and their media henchmen! do they look in the mirror?
Wisemanifold 3 weeks ago
@Wisemanifold It was such an evil act and probably these hitmen never even think twice because that's the way they are programmed. Many of them allegedly were killed by sundown.
mia0899cs 1 week ago
If you want new information. Look into Collins Radios involvement in the assassination
dukeof1999 3 weeks ago
@dukeof1999 Thank you:) I will.
mia0899cs 1 week ago
I found a garage sale book for a dime back in 1986 written by some of the spooks and pentacon ppl Kennedy fired, published in September of 63 warning of the danger to national security by JFK as president. Lost it yrs ago. More careful of who borrows what now.
Would like that as a resource now...
This book sounds wild....always new things to raise a brow...
It is her contention that plans were changed on the 22nd?
A kindness flows from your voice...
Disdain4Lies 3 weeks ago
@Disdain4Lies Thanks:) That sounds like it would have been a great book. I was surprised I could still order Jean Hill's book. This book you can't put down and I read it in one day.
mia0899cs 1 week ago
Yes, i just discovered this info in Jim Garrison's excerpt taken from his book "On the Trail of the Assassins". That's what you call, "a coup d'etat".
The original, planned route was supposed to take Kennedy straight down Main St. They couldn't have hit him if he was to take that route. Kennedy was so exposed, there was no way he should not have been covered, protected by tighter security and agents.
One7823 2 months ago
@One7823 Yes, it was a coup d'etat. They changed the motorcade route at the last minute from what I recall. You're right that they never should have exposed JFK to those bldgs. There's a vid on YT where you can see a secret service agent on the right rear side being called from the car behind. He puts his hands up like wtf? LBJ ducks down when his limo turns on Elm St. Caroline just had Jackie's tapes released. Jackie says LBJ and a rich Texas tycoon had him killed.
mia0899cs 1 month ago
Sarah Palin had her recent intervention. She was told not to run again for the presidency....or else.
Video of a CIA person saying it: Ex Cia black Ops Warns US Citizens, Chip Tatum RIP, 7/8.
jacobji5 3 months ago
Same M.O. for Bobby - he was re-directed through the kitchen of the Ambassador Hotel at the last minute. Oh yeah, and that pesky death shot from behind - Sirhan Sirhan was at least 3 feet in front and of course,as President,he was GOING TO GET THEM ALL. The killers write the history/lies to our children and destroyed our country. As an add-on, Princess Diana's car was replaced at the last minute and the normal route to Dodi's apartment was changed as well. These people use the same script.
bumcheek7 4 months ago
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iamlost2 5 months ago
@iamlost2 Most people take the assasination of JFK very seriously. You're a disgrace!
mia0899cs 5 months ago
autoad stated "I produced the video showing a book that you said never existed".
That indicates he is David Von Pein, disinformation producer of youtube videos. autoad outed himself.
Von Pein wanted me to see video: THE KENNEDY ASSASSINATION: BEYOND CONSPIRACY" (ABC-TV)(PART 9). Pein tried to prove Oswald was an excellent shot because Hoover's "piss" doctor and CIA lacky, John Lattimer, said so.
Pein's outing statement on: Newly Discovered Footage of JFKs Final Moments. autoad = David Von Pein
10Faenor 6 months ago
I'm glad I stumbled upon your video. I love picking up new info. Thanks!
grdarlington 7 months ago
@grdarlington You're welcome and thank you for watching:)
mia0899cs 6 months ago
It was Emory Roberts who ordered the two agents off the rear of JFK's limo as seen in the video "Secret Service Stand down".The driver of the follow up car told Vince Palamara that Roberts also ordered agents to "Stay Put" during the shooting.
And Emory Roberts was good buddies with LBJ.
themeaningoflife38 7 months ago
About the head moving forward. Greer put the breaks on the limo, more than once. NO seat belts in cars, or limos, in 1963. A close look shows Greer and Kellerman almost kissing the limo windshield. But, the other 4 occupants show no forward movement at the same time. Another proof of film fraud alterations.
You have probably seen the bloody shirt and coat picture, therefore have seen the middle back entry wound. A rifle shot into your back when sitting will certainly move you a bit.
oIdmac1 7 months ago
@oIdmac1 When the limo approached the TSBD it almost came to a complete stop. I think it was travelling at 12.2 mph. Kennedy was first shot in the throat. The fatal headshot is in the front right temporal lobe thrusting Kennedy backwards. Testimony from Parkland Hospital states that the back of his head was blown out. This would be the exit wound.
mia0899cs 7 months ago
@mia0899cs Not only near a complete stop approaching the corner, the limo was said to almost run over the curb. It did completely stop seconds later for the assassins. That 12.2 figure comes from govt. sources, so it must be another lie.
oIdmac1 7 months ago
@mia0899cs witnesses including cops said it stopped immediately after the first shot hear. It started again after the last shot. There were more than 3 shots.
barmtraiI 7 months ago
autoad is another screen name for Thomas Lowery, a known pro-CIA freak.
The 6th floor shots are now proved impossible because of the criminal president gerald ford confessing to moving the rear back bullet wound up several inches to the back of the neck. There are NO photos to support a rear neck shot.
oIdmac1 7 months ago
@oIdmac1 Very interesting. Thanks!
mia0899cs 7 months ago
net to Mary Moorman and you can see the press bus driving by. She also said she saw a little white dog in the back seat of the limo next to Jackie and JFK. There was no dog in the car.
Jean Hill wanted to become famous and sadly, she's mislead thousands of people with a story that was clearly manufactured.
autoad 8 months ago
@autoad They tried to really discredit Jean Hill because she said she saw a white little dog. It was Jackie's white purse. It was a mistake but it was enough to discredit her eyewitness account of the assassination of JFK.
mia0899cs 8 months ago
@mia0899cs Well you got it wrong too!
The "little white dog" are asters that were given to Jackie at Love Field
Jean Hill discredited herself. As I said before, I'll send you the links to Jean Hill speaking to a television reporter where she clearly states what she saw and what she did not. I'll send you her Warren Commission testimony and you can read what she told them. You already have her book. Check out pages 23-24 where she gives the new and improved account of what she saw.
autoad 8 months ago
@autoad Yes, please provide the link. In her book she said Arlen Specter came to her house with a court reporter. However, Jean Hill asked Arlen Specter why the court reporter wasn't typing as she was giving her deposition for the Warren Commission Report. Jean Hill also said that she never signed the depo and Arlen Specter used it as testimony anyway. He was very corrupt in my opinion. One thing I know is JFK was shot in the right temporal lobe. The exit point was the back of his head.
mia0899cs 8 months ago
@mia0899cs There's no evidence JFK was shot in the right temporal lobe. The medical evidence shows the shots that struck him came from above and behind. There's an entry wound to his back that's confirmed by the inward direction of the fibers from his jacket and shirt. There's an exit wound to his throat which is confirmed by the fibers on the shirt collar and tie that shows an outward direction. All the bullet fragments found in the limo were to the front of JFK. The particulate matter from
autoad 8 months ago
@mia0899cs the head shot covered John and Nellie Connolly and Agents Greer and Kellerman. The "magic bullet" and all the bullet fragments were matched to the rifle on the 5th floor of the TSBD. The rife was owned by Oswald. Oswald was the only employee who fled the scene of the crime. Oswald was seen firing the rifle. His fingerprints were found on the trigger guard. Nobody saw anyone shooting at the president from the knoll. Lee Bowers had the best view of the area and he didn't see anyone
autoad 8 months ago
@mia0899cs shooting at the president. If the shot came from the front, and there's an exit wound to the back of his head, where did the bullet go? It didn't hit the Secret Service car that was only a few feet from the bumper of the presidential limo nor were any of the agents struck and there was no damage done to the trunk of the limo and it didn't strike anyone in the crowd. So where did it go?
I'll send you the information via your address. YouTube doesn't like links sent in postings
autoad 8 months ago
@autoad You can clearly see in the Zapruder film that he was struck in the right temporal lobe. He is thrust violenly backward. The Doctors and nurses at Parkland Hospital even testified to this on the Warren Commission report. People started running towards the Grassy Knoll. The cop behind the Presidential limi testified that JFK's brains and skull were all over him and the visor of his motorcycle.
mia0899cs 8 months ago
@mia0899cs That's true. Some of the motorcycle police did say they were struck by particulate matter. But the limo was moving forward into wind gusts that reached 20 mph.Some of the matter was blown back in the direction of the police. The Drs. and nurses at Parkland were in a frantic rush to save JFK's life. They never conducted an examination of his body and they never turned him over. They didn't know about the entry wound to his back. Dr. Michael Baden, who lead the 9 person team of
autoad 8 months ago
@mia0899cs forensic pathologists for the HSCA believes that the brain, blood and tissue was running out of JFK's head and then down from the force of gravity. This could account for the appearance of the back of his head. Remember, the nine person panel of pathologists includes Dr, Cyril Wecht. All nine of them agreed there is no medical evidence of JFK being shot from the front or the side. What you're see in the Z-film is an exit wound. Entrance wounds are small-exit wounds are big.
autoad 8 months ago
@mia0899cs It is believed the violent motion of JFK's head is a neuromuscular reaction to the massive amount of brain trauma caused by the bullet. The muscles of the back are considerable stronger than those of the chest. When the brain was blown apart his body reacted in the manner shown in the Z -film. We've been exposed to too much "Hollywood" and films depict people being pushed in the same direction the bullet is traveling. The human body does not react that way in real life. The 6.5 mm
autoad 8 months ago
@mia0899cs bullet weighs about a quarter of an ounce. The average human head weighs 10-15 lbs. An object that small in weight cannot move an average head that's attached to the torso with bone, tissue, tendons, muscles with that kind of force. Look closely at the Z-film frame 313/314 and you'll see JFK's head move forward about 2 inches. That's about all the movement you'll see from a head that's been struck. The bullet is more like a dart than a boxing glove when is strikes the human body.
autoad 8 months ago
@autoad JFK's head does move forward first a little and than is violently thrust backward. When it was first reported by the media and Dan Rather, Rather states that JFK's head was thrust forward which it wasn't. This was a lie. For JFK to be shot in the right temporal lobe(the front) he would have been past the TSBD and it would mean Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't have made the fatal head shot. Docs and staff @Parkland Hospital testified that JFK's back of head(skull) was blown off(exit point.)
mia0899cs 8 months ago
Some people are good witnesses and some people are not. Jean Hill was not a good witness. Not because she got things she thought she saw wrong, but she was wrong about the things she said she did.
She said that she remained standing while the shots were fired. She said she ran across the street immediately to find the gunman. Neither is true. She's shown in photographs sitting on the ground next to Mary Moorman. She didn't run across the street immediately. There are photos of her standing
autoad 8 months ago
vision, hearing and memory improved 26 years after the assassination.
If you're going to read her book, then read it with a skeptical mind.
autoad 8 months ago
from what she told the media within hours of the assassination, and her testimony to the Warren Commission. I have organized this information and would be happy to send it to anyone who would like to review if for themselves. You will soon discover that Jean Hill changed her story significantly. Her claims of being roughed up by the Secret Service or the police moments after the assassination do not make sense when you see her television interview. But you'll clearly see in her book how her
autoad 8 months ago
It is pure fiction that the motorcade route was changed. The two proposed locations where JFK was to give a luncheon speech was the Women's Building located at the southern end of town and the other was the Trade Mart off the Stemmons Freeway. The motorcade had to travel down Elm Street to access the Stemmons Freeway. You can't get on the Stemmons from Main.
I suggest folks should read Jean Hill's book "JFK-The Last Dissenting Witness" in order to fully appreciate how she changed her story
autoad 8 months ago
@autoad The motorcade route was changed and they even put it in the paper. Arlen Spector is the one who discredited Jean Hill. He also discredited the Doctors and nurses who first treated JFK at Parkland Hospital. This was the biggest conspiracy! The question is, "Who ordered it?"
mia0899cs 8 months ago
@mia0899cs I bet you've never read Jean Hill's testimony to the Warren Commission. I'll be happy to send you the web address so you can read it in an unedited version.
Arlen Spector di not discredit Jean Hill. You'll clearly see in her testimony he was respectful towards her. But you should see the things Jean Hill said about Mark Lane. Now that's interesting!
There is zero evidence of a conspiracy. It's complete foolishness to keep repeating that accusation. You have no evidence to support it.
autoad 8 months ago
Hi Cindy,there is a lot of evidence of a conspiracy.I notice Jean Hill in a red raincoat, and Mary Moorman taking a picture in the Zapruder film.Mary's picture was taken right at the fatal head shot which knocked Kennedy backwards.and towards Jackie.This shot could not have come from behind,but I am sure you will hear a lot of nutty explanations why it could.It was near impossible.The doctors at Parkland Hospital and several witness said this.Why did the Warren Commission try to say differently?
GGE47 9 months ago
@GGE47 Why did they show the exit wound in front when it was clearly from the right and back of the head?They even altered the gun shot in the back which knoced him forward.They raised it to the neck so they could fabricate the majic bullet baloney.Arlen Spector,a lawyer hired by the Warren Commission invented that nonsense and I am glad his days as a US Senator are over.There is a video showing secret service agents from FDR to Obama.It shows several pics of Kennedy's motorcade.leading up the
GGE47 9 months ago
@GGE47 assassination.It shws ss agents all over the car including the rear bumper.Even angent Rybka was ordered down by Emory Roberts at Love Field you still have to wonder why.They were turning onto a road which took them to Main St.It was only 7 miles through the downtown area to Housto St. and to Elm St.The author of this video gives his opinion of why Kennedy did not order to keep ss agents off his bumper.I have not read Jean's book but what you have read makes me wonder.
GGE47 9 months ago
I am re-posting this because I never hear a response to this fact: The motorcade went down Elm because it had to. You cant go north on Stemmons to the trade mart by going straight through main street. there is a cement curb that separates you from the Stemmons ramp. It is visible in contemporary footage, and on Google Earth still today. It appears that they HAD to take elm.
Scottthefish 11 months ago
@Scottthefish That might be correct, however, the motorcade route was changed at the last minute.
mia0899cs 11 months ago
@mia0899cs That is 100% false. I don't know where you got that piece of information but it's absolutely incorrect.
LoneNutter1 10 months ago
@LoneNutter1 Jean Hill's book is not the only place that I got this piece of info. They weren't going to go past the TSBD. The motorcade route change was even in the newspaper as I recall. As they turned onto Elm, I think it was, LBJ ducked down in his car. Check out some vids on here where you can clearly see a secret service agent walking at the left rear of the limo and he is called from behind. He puts his hands up, "Like what?!" and leaves the limo unattended. Their the facts.
mia0899cs 9 months ago
@mia0899cs I don't place much credibility with what Jean Hill had to say about the assassination and the events prior to and after JFK was killed. She changed her story significantly 29 years after the assassination. Her motive for doing so would be purely speculative but the fact remains, she changed her story.
The route the motorcade was going to take was dictated by the selection of the final destination. There were two possible locations for JFK to give a speech that day. One was the Dallas
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs Trade Mart and the other was the Women's Building located at the fairgrounds. This building was old, the air conditioning ductwork was exposed and was considered not to be a very nice building for the president. The Trade Mart was bigger, brighter, newer but it had a suspension bridge/catwalk that spanned the interior of the building. There were security concerns regarding this location due to the bridge but this became the planned location for the president's speech. If the Women's
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs Building had been chosen, the motorcade would not have passed by the Depository. But it was the politicians who selected the Trademart as the destination.The best way to get there was the Stemmons Freeway and the best way to get to the Freeway was to enter by Elm Street. Contrary to what the conspiracy theorists have been saying you can't travel straight down Main St and bypass Houston and Elm to get to the Freeway. There's a concrete island/barrier that separates Main from Elm beyond
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs the triple underpass. For the motorcade to be driving over that barrier would have been compromising the security of he president not to mention the damage that would have resulted from making this highly dangerous maneuver. The parade route was established by Agents Sorrels and Lawson and they used Main Street as the primary route through the city because it was the traditional parade route used as far back a 1936 when FDR traveled to Dallas. The Dallas police were briefed on the
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs route on November 15th and they agreed it was the proper one. The route wasn't changed which is contrary to what some conspiracy authors have written.
LBJ was in the motorcade riding with Senator Ralph Yarborough. There was a political rift developing in the Democratic Party in Texas. One of the reasons JFK went to Texas was to get the rift under control. LBJ and Yarborough were not getting along and Yarborough didn't want to ride in the car with LBJ. Kennedy was firm, clear and
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs and direct with Yarborough and told him he WAS going to ride with LBJ. The agent assigned to the protect LBJ was Rufus Youngblood. When the shots were fired Youngblood immediately jumped on top of LBJ to protect him. There have been lots of stories about what LBJ was doing just prior to the shots being fired. But there's no credible evidence linking the assassination of to LBJ. The conspiracy believers have been conjuring up stories about Johnson but sadly, they seem fixated on
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs insinuating LBJ had some involvement yet offer no supporting evidence.
The video you reference that shows the Secret Service agent throwing up his hands was taken at Love Field. The motorcade was forming up and the presidential limo was leaving the tamac and departing the airport. It's much too assumptive to make a definitive conclusion as to what is actually going on. It's important to note that during the entire motorcade none of the agents rode on the running boards of the limo.
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs It's also important to know that it was an extreme rarity for the agents to be on the running boards of the presidential limo during ANY motorcade while JFK was president. I've looked for any photograph that shows agents on the running boards during any motorcade in the USA or overseas and I've yet to see one. During the parade in Dallas Agent Hill did ride on the rear platform when the crowds got huge in downtown Dallas. His job was to protect Jackie and when the crowds spilled out
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs on the street, Agent Greer moved the limo to the left side of the street to put more distance between JFK and the crowds. That meant Jackie was closer to the people on the left side of the street. During those moments Agent Hill rode on the rear bumper in a crouched position. JFK didn't like agents on the limo because he thought it gave a bad impression and it prevented the public from seeing him and especially Jackie.
I think it's improper to interpret the video and call it "facts".
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs It would be wise to find out exactly what was said to the agent, who said it and what the exact reply of the demonstrative agent was. Without that essential information, any interpretation of the video is purely speculative.
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs I have a question for you.
Let's assume your interpretation of the video showing the Secret Service agent putting his hands into the air is correct. Let's say he has been instructed to leave the presidential limo unattended.
What does it prove?
LoneNutter1 9 months ago
@mia0899cs Actually, the agent, Don Lawton, was on the right rear. He was not called back; his job that day was to advance the departure from Love Field, enroute to Austin. What he was gesturing about was this: "Hey, have a nice drive, boys! I'm going to lunch! Hhaha!".
mansonmurders 9 months ago
Who is this lady and what does the JFK assassination have to do with breast feeding?
erdm2003 11 months ago
@erdm2003 Nothing. I do a variety of vids and my main focus at this time was the JFK assassination which I studied for awhile.
mia0899cs 11 months ago
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Skeptics of the cross-dressing jacobji5 story point to Susan Rosenstiel's poor credibility and say recklessly indiscreet behavior by Hoover would have been totally out of character whatever his sexuality. Most biographers consider the story of Mafia blackmail to be unlikely in light of the FBI's investigations of the Mafia, which had already put over 650 made members in prison by the time of JFK's death.
auther1046 1 year ago
Soory about the video I recommended below. it is not the correct video to see J Edgar Hoover in female clothing. This provides proof that he was controlled by the CIA and others who had the pictures. Hoover was in charge of nearly all of the assassination disinformation given to the Warren Commission criminals.
The correct video is: 9fqMA9YV3ks
jacobji5 1 year ago
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@jacobji5 "J Edgar Hoover"
Soviet Archives : Revealed evidence there was a Soviet campaign to discredit the US which used allegations of homosexuality to discredit JEH. JEH's biographer Richard Hack "JEH was romantically linked to actress Dorothy Lamour & that after JEH's death, Lamour did not deny rumors that she had had an affair with JEH". Hack additionally reports that during the 1940-50s, JEH so often attended social events w/Lela Rogers, that many assumed the pair would eventually marry
auther1046 1 year ago
It wasn't to get closer to shooters. You cant go north on stemmons to the trade mart by going straight through main street. there is a cement curb that separates you from the stemmons ramp. you have to take elm. regarding the grassy knoll shooter- it makes a 25 yrd shot a 60 yard shot, which is nothing for a rifle with a scope.
Scottthefish 1 year ago
You sound stowundd.
lblmer 1 year ago
Wonder if J Edgar “Mary” Hoover was a fag?
Wonder no more. See J Edgar Hoover wearing a female's hair bun on the back of his head, and wearing a bra with fake boobies under his shirt. Hoover is an ugly bitch homo in drag in front of the big oil felons from Texas.
Youtube video: J.Edgar Hoover his oil friends and his non existant mafia #1
Youtube video: ?v=hlWSn4An3Mk
Look at 2:40 - 2:52.
jacobji5 1 year ago
@jacobji5 I will check it out. They were all in on it. It was the day we lost our Country. Exec order 11110 is still in effect from JFK which means the Federal Reserve was being eliminated. Silver certificates were printed with no promissory note on the money.
mia0899cs 1 year ago
@jacobji5
i saw a vid that suggested that the mob had a pix of JEH with a mouhful of his "buddy" Clyde Tolson. That pix and his love of betting on fixed hrse races at Del Mar alowed the mob to keep him check.
RedStateRoy 11 months ago
mia looks like she is on seriously sick illicite drugs. probably crack/meth. mental problems galore. who in their right mind would breast feed a 8 year old?
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
@KookTartsBigFarts1 That vid on bf an 8 y.o. was a comedy. Thanks for your observations.
mia0899cs 1 year ago
I suggest mia get a new line of hoaxing, her hair looks like she slept on it.
KookTartsBigFarts1 1 year ago
LBJ and the CIA killed both Kennedys without a doubt. How stupid does this corrupt government think we are?
CliffMortensen1 1 year ago
@CliffMortensen1 Exactly!
mia0899cs 1 year ago
The CIA is now altering the Magic Bullet, ce-399.
The CIA is actively engaged in altering the JFK conspiracy history on Wikipedia. A year ago there was only 1 magic bullet. Now, there are 3. All of them labeled ce-399. The CIA is shown removing a small section of the front-side of a bullet. Lousy job of alteration. Obviously it is a pixel removal.
Yahoo web search: CIA alters Wikipedia.
Web search: CIA edits Wikipedia BBC News
10Faenor 1 year ago
@10Faenor Interesting. I will check this out. We need to keep this going so the truth will be revealed.
mia0899cs 1 year ago
"Over the postwar years, we have granted to the elite and secret police within our system vast new powers over the lives and liberties of the people. At the request of the trusted and respected heads of those forces, and their appeal to the necessities of national security, we have exempted those grants of power from due accounting and strict surveillance."
--House Majority Leader Hale Boggs (D), in a speech before Congress, 22 April 1971
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WTF is Boggs saying? Granted to the elite? Secret SS?
10Faenor 1 year ago
That son of a bitch knew JFK would die.
610bjones 1 year ago
Ur hair kicks ass here
TheWhitevoices 1 year ago
@TheWhitevoices Thank you!!! You're sweet!
mia0899cs 1 year ago
gamercenation go 2 hell obama-- go 2 hell bush -go 2 hell clinton go 2 hell all of congress- go 2 hell senate--- the UNITED STATES SENATE has 6 letters in the first name- 6 letters in the second & 6 letters in the last name equals = 666 the mark of the beast A curse on the USA it is EVIL the mayflower rose from the sea-- the mark of the beast in matthew 18-6 Christ condems those who have ANY PART IN KILLING CHILDREN interpert revalations right & U will know the truth!
DEATH TO ALL PRESIDENTS
gamercenation 1 year ago
Another Z film alteration found.
See video: JFK Assassination - Pink Rose - A song about Jackie.
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At 1:30-34 see the man in white shirt & hat/helmet next to the light pole.
All the people after him going toward the bridge do not match # of people & clothes color on the Z film. This picture proves Z film alterations.
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And all 4 cycle cops are not behind the limo, as the Z film implies. We would have seen at least the right-side cycle cops shoulders / heads / helmets.
grassyknollkiller 1 year ago
See the Nix video by Zysiex. It doesnt match the Zapruder video. There are 4 people missing on the Z video. Proof of alterations.
Nix film.
At 0:16-0:17 after the fall-down guy, count the people with the kid. There are 6, including a WHITE SHIRT MAN & WOMAN on the middle grass area between the streets.
At 0:17 there are 4 more people, including a WOMAN & CHILD on grass closer to Main St.
Z film.
Frames 360-380. See all the way up to Main St.
Not even the leg/feet of these 4 people.
grassyknollkiller 1 year ago
@grassyknollkiller
Thats a good point.
Also on the Zapruder film, notice the row of people at the bottom (to the left of the sign). They appear to be cut out of a different, earlier period of filming as these people are not reacting to the president as he drives by..
In many cases they aren't even looking in the direction of the president...
seth917 1 year ago
Warren Report: Vol. II, Page 75
Testimony of Roy Kellerman, SS Agent, front seat, JFK limo.
Mr. Specter: "Now, did President Kennedy say anything beside, "My God, I am hit"?
RK: "That is the last words he said, sir".
This confirms JFK was shot BEFORE the throat and head shots. Otherwise, JFK could not speak those last 5 words of his life.
usefulstuf 1 year ago
Warren Report: Vol. II, Page 78
Testimony of Roy Kellerman, SS agent, front seat, JFK limo
"I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots.
But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connolly three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen."
"I am going to say..." the official story line.
"But,...." he knows it is a lie.
usefulstuf 1 year ago
Warren Report: Vol. II, Page 79
Testimony of Roy Kellerman, SS agent, front seat, JFK limo.
RK:"...and I walked around him and I wanted to look at this man's face, they had him face up."
Sen. Cooper: "The President?"
RK: "The President; I am sorry. I did not see any wounds in that man's face."
Mr.Specter: "Indicating with your hand at that moment the front part of his face?"
RK: "Right, sir."
No blasted out face area, confirming the Parkland hospital doctors. Condemning the altered Z film.
usefulstuf 1 year ago
This is a silly video.
LoneNutter1 1 year ago
@LoneNutter1 Most Americans take the assassination of their President very seriously.
mia0899cs 1 year ago
@somethgblue69 Loser! Don't you know how to click view all comments??!!!! Get a life and stop making a fool out of yourself. You probably can't read and comprehend this so it will be difficult. Ask your mother who you still live with at 69.
mia0899cs 1 year ago
wHAT grade are you in? You are totally immature little douchebag about 8 year old I bet. Young, dumb, fat, ugly and stupid is no way to go throught life loser!! SOUND FAMILIAR? WHAT GRADE ARE YOU IN?
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
@jacksonwaspedo hahaha! I think your comment proves how immature you are and of course you are blocked you imbecile!
mia0899cs 1 year ago
@jacksonwaspedo shes definately not ugly
garylee34 1 year ago
aren't YOU smart enough to figure out when someone is pushing YOUR buttons? When you're getting played? SOUND FAMILIAR?
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
roflmao look at little silly tard. She actually thinks she said something profound. Hey people TRUTH EXISTS!!! ROFLMAO NO SHIT SHERLOCK tell us something we don't know. wow look at little dumbass she actually thinks it's a sign of high intelligence cause she finally figured out fICTION IS CREATED! WOW-WEE What other obvious shit that everyone alread knows do you want to tell us about like it's some pithy highly intelligent revelation when in fact it's just plain imbecility? SOUND FAMILIAR?
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
Look at the chimp - she learned about Pavlov's dog and thinks she's really intelligent to know what we all learned in Psych 101 years ago. She actually thinks 99% of the public does not know about that and fancies herself some intellect cause she just leard about Pavlov. GET OVER PAVLOV OK DOPE? Uh KNOW is spelled like that dope. Not "no". You should work on your writing skills you come across as white-trailer-trash Ebonics speaker. Uh you insulted me so I guess that was ok for you to do it?
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
You said that swearing meant someone was not intelligent. SOUND FAMILIAR? So I pointed out lots of world leaders that swore like sailors and were very intelligent too!! So swearing is by now means signs of inferior intelligence fool. Yes in that regard I am like them!! I swear and I am intelligent. Yes!! Glad you just proved to be of such low, inferior intelligence that you can't even understand that point and go off and say that I was comparing myself to them in other regrards.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
you are incoherent and goofy. nobody has any idea what the fuck you are babbling about. SOUND FAMILIAR?
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
yea right no kidding tony-tony does this SOUND FAMILIAR? THEY probably have her in diapers as she's about 100 and has no bowel control and probably shits her pants every 10 minutes and gets fed only oatmeal as the bitch is toothless. She's undoubetly a wretched old fucking ancient granny with a whiskers and bo so don't even try to figure her out bitch has gone senile it's clear. I't like she's ahveing a conversation that only she understands. Like speaking martian don't try to figure it out
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
your fucked up comments would be comical if anyone know what the fuck you were mumbling and rambling on about like a first-rate idiot. I suppose in your own mind you know what you mean but to the outside world you are just a tard who makes no sense.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
looks like you are one of the sheeple as YOU watch tv & I don't OH-she learned a new word sheeple & thinks it is cutting edge or somethng. what a delusional tard she is. NObody knows what you are saying so that's what requires interpretations and is no way sign of a 6 year old but yoiur sentence structure certainly is. SOUND FAMILIAR? yOU REMIND ME of a monkey -the higher you climb in the tree the more we see you are an ass. Imbecillic rants is all your jibberish diahrea spew amounts to.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
Were JFK, Winston Churchill, DeGaulle or Franklin Roosevelt intelligent? YES gee each of them SWORE LIKE SAILORS so I just made a fool of you as your premis is totally wrong. YOU are conditioned by tv I told yoiu i DON'T WATCH TV FOOL. I am conditioned by books, papers, libraries fool. your dumbass premise assumes everyone watches tv and many people don't fool. NObody knows what you are talking about anyways as you have no command of English and are totally incoherent.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
it is false that lbj changed the motorcade route. it was published in the paper several days in advance and never altered
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
Great Moments in Incoherency and MOONBATISM by somethgblue69 "Hollywood has been trying to condition the American sheeple for the last sixty years to buy the lie, looks like your convinced!" uh the douce was actually talking about tv and violence here - supposedly. only an idiot wouldn't know that sentence is totally incoherent. and evidence of her white-trailer-trash Ebonics education.
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
you said hollywood dumbass that means movies to everyone but a dumbass retard like you. I don't watch tv but that explains YOUR behaviour but your premise that tv violence leads to actual violence is preposterous and just shows what a dumbass you are as there is no evidence of that what-so-ever. If you look at crime rates now vs prior to advent of tv - the crime rates have dropped fool. Way to go talk about something whereby yoiu don't know your ass from a hole in the ground!
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
somethgstupidblue69 - you remind me of a monkeyh - the higher you climb in the tree the more we see you are an ass. I personally do not buy your gullible, sheeple dumbass sucker beliefs. keep sleepwalking and drinking the coolaid. If it really happend your way - you wouldn't need a commission. oh wait WHERE DID I SAY I WAS A PROPONENT OF WC? DUH I DIDNT DUMBASS. Uh I hate to tell you but the hsca had the wool pulled over it's eyes too fool. Truth will out all else is false!
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
somethgbluedope69 - it's called debate fool. Hollywood? who is talking about hollywood? hollywood has nothing to do with it fool. I myself have pointed 100's of errors and lies IN the jfk movie as well as tmwkk. show me where ever said a hollwywood movie was a source? perhaps for idiots like you. it's c;lear you are a sheeple cool aid drinker no difference then the people who drank Jim Jone's cool-aid. As PT Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute so we know where you came from
jacksonwaspedo 1 year ago
mia - I saw an investigation on the route of the motorcade. It might have been by the hsca - I'm not sure but it was quite definitive - I believe the parade route was printed in the newspaper ahead of time and IT WAS NEVER CHANGED. that is a myth that was proven erroneous by the facts. I'll try to see if I can find it and forward it to you but it was pretting convincing. Why would the cop NOT TELL about this if it was true? ok so Hoover would have coverd it up but I don't think this happened
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
Don't ever expect to see the real routing unless you can obtain the Dallas newspaper morning issue on Nov 22, 63.
Anything put out nowadays is going to be a sanitized version.
LIFE magazine (CIA operated) put out the lie ...shows the President turning his body far around to the right as he waves to someone in the crowd. His throat is exposed, towards the snipers nest, just before he clutches it.
LIFE put out this lie 4 times over the years from Dec 1963 to Nov 2003 editions.
lonenutsareliars 2 years ago
Changed route means conspiracy plain and simple. How did Oswald know the route was going to be changed? He brought his rifle with him to work at the TSBD building before a route change was made as if he knew.
whathoney73 2 years ago
@whathoney73 Yes, I agree with you. So, if they are claiming that LHO made the fatal head shot well then he was part of the conspiracy. LHO was a patsy. He didn't fire any gun that day. He was paid regularly for the CIA. James Wilcott testified to that under oath and he knew this because he was responsible that he was his job in the CIA.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
Oswald did not fire a shot during the assassination.
He may have been involved in the plot - knowingly or unknowingly - but he did not fire a shot, rather he was setup.
seth917 2 years ago
@seth917 Yes, I totally agree that he was a patsy.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
@seth917 No,Oswald did not kill JFK or Officer J.D Tippit.
MrLordbaltimore 1 year ago
the route was not changed. that book is a lie this was investitgated by hsca and it was proven route was not changed. it wsaa published in the paper exactly as it occurred
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
LBJ has had to do something with the incident. I saw pictures of him being sworn in as the new president and some people in that room were not happy.
dragnet53 2 years ago
I think he definitely knew about it. He leaned over in the car when he was turning onto the st. (Elm? where the TSBD is on. He knew that's where the shooting was going to occur.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
POSITIVE ID
Want to see the Cuban JFK murder conspirator, David Sanchez Morales, Operations Chief for CIA JMWAVE, and in the CIA assassination group labeled ZR/Rifle? Then look at the Zapruder film.
See Morales dressed in white clothes across the street, just after the freeway sign, and wearing a type of bullet proof vest. He holds out his hand and then lowers it.
Before Kevlar was developed in 1965, bullet proof material can look like a catchers or umpires padding.
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grassyknollkiller 2 years ago
that does not look like morales at all. he';s way to short morales was very big that dude is bald morales was not bald it doesn't evne look remotely like morales you are positively wrong. he's also much too old - he can be seen in the ballroom night rfk was killed which was 5 years later and the dude in z film is waaay older he is clapping that's the hand movement. one thing is odd besides the vest - he doesn't seem to turn as jfk passes? but would YOU stand in line of fire? NO
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
uh you have a small problem - MORALES WAS NOT BALD
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
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Next, look at the Index of Photographers, Phillip Willis, number 6, at jfkmurderphotos(.)bravehost(.) com
Morales is casually walking away in the opposite direction. Notice his look, clothes, hair, sunglasses.
Then on Yahoo Search put in: morales jmwave.
Then click on: David Sanchez Morales, at spartucus,schoolnet. See his pics. Same look, clothes, hair, sunglasses.
POSITIVE ID
Now, the CIA is proven to be on Elm St. with an extended hand signal to begin shooting at JFK.
grassyknollkiller 2 years ago
no you did not prove morales was there although he could have been there's another picture fo someone who DOES look like him in dealy plaza this dude you have is bald and way shortter does not look like him at all
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
kennedy was shot from the drians the zepruder film has been doctored cut and spliced
aifammafiaaifam 2 years ago
I've heard this theory before and it is possible.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
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the z film was developed the very same day and 3 copies made. it never left z's hands - if it was IMMEDIATELY develped and 3 copies made - when did they have time to alter it? it was also immediatly shown that day and the next day to 50 reporters - how come none of the reporters has ever said it was altered? how could it be altered AFTER people saw it? you would have to alter the copies too. How do you do that? Z testified at Shaws trial it had not been altered. there were 3 other films a
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
there were at least 3 other people who filmed the assass - you would have to alter them too but they matched z's film perfectly. there was approx 250 other still pictures taken - how would you fake all of them too? how could you know what the wounds would be and then have pictures made to alter what you wanted them to be when z's film was developed immediatly and shown immediately with copies made? it is not possible the z was altered - no how no way
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
the z film was developed the very same day and 3 copies made. it never left z's hands - if it was IMMEDIATELY develped and 3 copies made - when did they have time to alter it? it was also immediatly shown that day and the next day to 50 reporters - how come none of the reporters has ever said it was altered? how could it be altered AFTER people saw it? you would have to alter the copies too. How do you do that? Z testified at Shaws trial it had not been altered. there were 3 other films a
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
there were at least 3 other people who filmed the assass - you would have to alter them too but they matched z's film perfectly. there was approx 250 other still pictures taken - how would you fake all of them too? how could you know what the wounds would be and then have pictures made to alter what you wanted them to be when z's film was developed immediatly and shown immediately with copies made? it is not possible the z was altered - no how no way
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
LYNDON JOHNSON / J. EDGAR HOOVER PHONE CALL (NOVEMBER 29, 1963)(PART 2)
LBJ -- "If Connolly hadn't been in his way..."
JEH -- "Oh yes....yes. The President no doubt would have been hit."
LBJ -- "He (JFK) would have been hit three times."
JEH -- "He would have been hit three times."
So, if Connolly hadn't been in his way, JFK would have been hit three times?
If there is only 1 rear shooter, how does Connollys riding position in front of JFK block a 3rd bullet?
A front shooter!!
grassyknollkiller 2 years ago
Where did you find that conversation? That is very interesting.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
that phone call of Hoover & LBJ is on youtube.Try searching for The LBJ Tapes.
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
I definitely will. Thanks!
mia0899cs 2 years ago
they did not know for sure where the shots had come form - this was right after the assass and they hadn't investigated it yet. there is a video here that shows there was no possible shot from south knoll, overpass or grassy knoll. with the knoll - yes they could have hit kennedy but it was a lateral shot and would have hit jackie too. the head wound proved shots from the back due to beveling on inside of the skull plus oswald was seen in the window shooting
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
PROOF of the front entry bullets on JFK
'Wound of Entry, part 2' at 6:30-6:40 shows the small entry bullet hole into the throat of Kennedy, just as Parkland hospital doctors said it was. This picture is the proof of the frontal shot (certainly not Oswald) BEFORE the doctor did the tracheotomy.
Notice on the picture the attempt to block out the 2nd entry shot from the front, above the right eye on the hairline. This picture is proof of 2 frontal shots, as the Parkland doctor said it was.
grassyknollkiller 2 years ago 2
Arlen Specter discredited the Doctors, the Nurses and the whole staff at Parkland Hospital. I read that part of the Warren Commission Report. he said that their memory could have failed them. Everything is documented at a hospital at the time it occurs. I also saw that the back of JFK's skull was sewed and patched making it look like the bullet wound came from the back. Jackie wasn't going to leave her husband, but LBJ insisted when he was sworn in. That's the time I feel caskets were switched.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
I have solved the mystery of why the hole in back of head did not show in autopsy photo!! I AM A GENIUS MYSTERY SOLVED!! McClelland tesifying before ARRB-DR. MCCLELLAND: "There was no hole on that picture that looked like that. And I said,. Well, I think I know what that is. I think it may be because if you notice there are some fingers at the top of the photograph apparently pulling a flap of scalp forward, and I think the flap was being pulled over that opening when they took the pictures."
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
DR. MCCLELLAND: So it wasn't a -- well, maybe I'm wrong. I mean, not unless I've taken leave of my senses entirely. There was a hole there and so my explanation of what was happening is here's this hand up in the wound and they sort of pulled it up
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
MR. GUNN: Dr. Peters, you've been nodding your head.
DR. PETERS: Well, I would certainly agree with what .Bob said. It was my thought exactly that they just kind of pulled that flap back into place and took a picture so they could show how it looked with things restored as much as possible and it just -- a flap just kind of -- had been torn back and now they were just kind of putting it back and snapping a picture.
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
DR. PETERS
I thought just exactly what Bob, did. They were probably making a series of pictures and
they had just pulled that flap back up there to cover it up and took a picture of that to show the head with the flap restored, so to speak, for whatever reason. I'm sure there were many other pictures that were made at the
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
mia - there are many other comments besides these that explain the skull was shattered from back to front - topo right quarter like a porcelein egg would be - ok you probably knowthat but the reason there was a hole in the back was that the entire quarter of skull fractrued and there were 3 flaps of scalp and skull that hung down that's what the parkland drs saw - in the autopsy picutres the flap exposing the hole in back is being held in place by the drs is all THIS SOLVES THE HOLE IN BACK
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
MR. GUNN: Could we talk about the neck wound for a minute? DR. PERRY: I'm the one that stuck my foot in my mouth, but actually it looked like an entrance wound and the bullet appeared to be coming at him and I based that mainly on the fact it was a small wound to the neck and without any other information. I prefaced those comments at the press conference both before and after by saying that neither Dr. cont
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
Clark nor I knew how many bullets there were or where they came from.
unfortunately my comment said it's an entrance wound, and it was taken out of context of the others, but I did say that small wound. As I mentioned earlier, however, I didn't take any measurements. I didn't wipe the blood off. just went through it and it was the thing to do at the time; had no concept about legal things. We did what we were trained to do
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
The head parkland dr has said that when jacketed bullets are used even drs who have seen 1000's of wounds can't tell an entry wound from an exit wound. with jacketd bullets - there is no tearing of the skin and he is positively on record saying he misspoke. I posted these quotes above but there are also other quotes he made describing how he had seen 1000's of wounds and could never tell entry from exit when jacketed bullets used. the skull wound is diff though cause the bone is beveled oninside
jacksonwaspedo 2 years ago
the Secret Service were part of the plot.The motorcycle cops were told to stay back and only two were needed.Agent Emory Roberts ordered agents to stay behind at the airport.Roberts also called agents off the limo before they got to dealey plaza.The driver of the follow up car admitted that Roberts ordered agents to stay put during the shooting.Agent Clint Hill ignored his order when he ran to the limo.Emory Roberts was also a good buddy of LBJ's and was given a nice White House job afterwards
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
Thanks! That's very intersting!
mia0899cs 2 years ago
you should block mr cdddraftsman he is some sort of cia disinformation agent
themeaningoflife38 2 years ago
He could be seriously because who else would sound so stupid and believe the LHO acted alone. It isn't possible. He could just be a wannabe cia agent. Maybe, he watched too many spy movies.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
ARLEN SPECTOR=TRAITOR
sfradia 2 years ago
Yes, he is or he was told what to do. He was just a lawyer from Philadelphia and after the Warren Commission Report he became a Senator. I don't understand after reading the Warren Commission Report that his findings of fact are so absurd that anyone would believe him.
mia0899cs 2 years ago
do you recall that part in jfk when costner/garrison is reading warren comm report saying 'ask the question' . Well, just read Greer at WC he said they rode at 25-35 mph and at some point 10/15mph. at no point did Arlon Spector ask a question like is that usual to go that slow?
martynhanson 3 years ago
Yes, the limo slowed down to 11.2 miles I believe it was right as they approached the TSBD. Arlen Spector was just a lawyer from Philly, and he cut up everybody's testimony. The Doctors and nurses at Parkland Hospital he said, "Well, you wouldn't remember what you saw." Well, they not only saw JFK when he was brought in and probably would never forget that and of course they had legal documents at the hospital. Spector discredited everyone.
mia0899cs 3 years ago
wasn't Emory Roberts the guy that shooed away the two agents who were going to ride on the back of Kennedy's car at the start of the motorcade as they should have been? Yeah, driver Greer must have been part of it too. Nix film showed he practically stopped the car by the time of the head shot
martynhanson 3 years ago
and was looking right at jfk when head shot went off.....why has he not looked into deeper?
nbkid 3 years ago
Too many powerful people were in on it.
mia0899cs 3 years ago
I did see that vid on Youtube, but I didn't recall the name. There were two policemen on motorcycles riding at the back. Usually, there are two in the front as well. I think Greer would have had to known because he slowed down the limo to 11.2 miles at the TSBD.
mia0899cs 3 years ago
The agent in charge Emory Roberts ordered agents to stay behind at the airport and during the shooting ordered agents to "stay put".Roberts was also good buddies with LBJ and was given a nice job as a white house aide after the murder.Also the limo driver slowed down during the shooting and looked back to make sure he was hit before speeding up.
themeaningoflife38 3 years ago
nice read, thank you
giantshadows 3 years ago
OMGWAD CONSPIRACY!!!!!!!
get a life people
Scrinny 3 years ago
I once went to a presentation by Rusty Rhodes, a JFK assassination researcher, where he showed a picture of LBJ's limo moments before the assassination. It looked as though Lady Bird was sitting by herself as if LBJ wasn't even in the car.
bondurango 3 years ago
That must have been interesting. I read that LBJ leaned down when they made the turn shortly before the TSBD. Why would he do this if he didn't know? So, that's why Lady Bird looked like she was sitting by herself. He obviously didn't tell her either. Well, I guess he did have a mistress.
mia0899cs 3 years ago
You're hair looks good.
videomail2000 3 years ago
Thank you! My hair has changed so much since I have been on Youtube, lol! It did look nice here, but I still had that really curly perm. I am growing my hair really long and then donated some of it to children with cancer. I like my hair longer. When it did get cut, I used some hair extensions occassionally.
mia0899cs 3 years ago
S.E.C.R.E.T. S.E.R.V.I.C.E. = "Simplest Exclanation Concerning Route Executive Took Shows Excellent Riflemen View in Covered-up Execution"
Acronym77 3 years ago
*Explanation
Acronym77 3 years ago
she kind of looks like juice newton.
kcsunshine64 3 years ago
"promise me you'll never breath a word about it"
Then she wrote a book! I love it!
How did she die? Heart attack? Car accident? Oh, I'll bet a suicide...
moichidomoichido 3 years ago
She didn't release the book until she was in her 70's.
mia0899cs 3 years ago