1 cor 1:18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
chose jesus or rejct him. thats your choice. we all WILL stand before jesus one day, for those who chose jesus while they had the chance. it will be a great day
This mayor is speaking Satan's words, this mayor is trying to get you to support gay rights, and is supportive of those living in this lifestyle, what does God say about gay rights?
1 cor 6:9-10, Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders will inherit the kingdom of God.
either chose to follow this major or jesus. that choice is up to you. those who chose jesus ill see you in heaven
You have to remember that the bible serves as only a pointless rambling for some people who dnt have a faith. Therefore you must accept people who formulate their argument without the help of a scripture; it seems that the only opposition to gay marriage comes from a book in which we are dictated to and must have blind belief in. This can provide the foundation to your belief but does not mean homosexuality is an abomination- it is regarded so by you as you have been told so.
@dagll 1 cor 1:1818For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The time is coming when you will stand before Jesus, and all that will matter than is did you receive Jesus while you had the chance or not, if you're going to try to argue with God about his word is not true, you're going to lose the argument, turn from living in sin and receive Jesus will you still can.
Well thank you; you have reiterated my argument. You simply believe in something you have been told, blindly believing in something which, in this world, hasn't been qualified in the way most things have around us scientifically thus it is never going to be entirely valid. But if you want take a religious route then ok; do you not realize that the old testament was clearly influenced by man- even the creation story; there is discussion about days, nights etc..
... all language that we are familiar with; its like dreams; all components of our dreams are of reality. Unless, even more ignorantly, people take a fundamentalist approach. The fact that some areas of a scripture seem open to interpretation shows that every human clearly uses higher source of morality; the bible does not teach us what is right and wrong- we understand that through our environment.. and similarly with our parents. It is all very natural and the bible helps to...
@dagll the bible does teach what is right and wrong. you just chose to not accept it. 1 cor 1:1818For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
this hell and heaven you chose to deny. you will be in one of them forever, chose is yours choice one. jesus = heaven satan = hell, im glad i chose heaven
Why are you saying that I am not accepting? Please don't make assumptions. How can u not get my point. You're arguing from the context of the bible. The bible does say what is right or wrong just like I could preach that message from Corinthians in my own words. My point is that you accept this; you are certain of it which is fine as I must not discriminate but equally, you must recognize you are blindly believing words and thus, those words serve as no authority to other people
circumstances. So, in loving you neighbour, and realizing the danger of recognizing punishments for other seemingly trivial practices like disobeying parents, I think it is far better to allow someone the hardly detrimental right of a life without discrimination and simple rights.
@dagll 1 cor 1:1818For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The time is coming when you will stand before Jesus, and all that will matter than is did you receive Jesus while you had the chance or not, if you're going to try to argue with God about his word is not true, you're going to lose the argument, turn from living in sin and receive Jesus while you still can.
... assert these morals that we have in life. The 2 most important commandments are love your neighbour as you do yourself and love god with all your heart etc.. Jesus, also, often reiterates that allow someone to sin as you father will have their punishment. Now to the discussion of sin; there are many barbaric statements in the old testament which any sane person must dismiss as clearly disobeying your parents is a common practices. Finally, asserting my discussion about an..
.. ability to interpret, we often decide which acts are more sinful; if you are taking the opinion that someone is sinning due to this lifestyle, then you must also understand we are sinning at an equally sinful level if we disobey our parents but, as I said before, we do have an ability to interpret which means any person who understands this point must realize that we cannot possibly take a fundamentalist. Lastly, someone else's life really does not effect another's in usual..
People in san francisco this loudmout is not helping you. this guy is going to put pain on san francisco. thats a shame. california don't elect this guy as governor. those red states are where the economic and demographic power is moving. it is also where the commidities are. think it through.
Newsom will never have political career outside of corrupt San Fransicko. He's a reprobate and most people know it. That's why the little shit heel dropped out of the Governor's race before it started.
Finally he got smart and backed out of running for California governor. Guess he didn't want to have to debate Jerry Brown. Thank God for term limits on mayor in San Francisco. He can now go seek a job with King Obama in DC.
Mayor Gavin Newsom has said he would not allow his Police departments in any way enforce immigration laws or turn over to ICE illegal immigrants that are juveniles convicted of crimes. Anthony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, were returning from a picnic when they were gunned down on June 16, 2008 by Salvadoran national Edwin Ramos, 22. Ramos was arrested on felonies twice when he was 17 years old and never turned over to immigration because of his age.
Gavin Newsom is an a@@ - and the more he talks the more he proves it. I don't think his ego would fit in the Governor's mansion. Heaven help California if he becomes Governor.
To bad he has a bad habit of fucking his friend and colleagues wives. The man is the biggest asshat alive and the fact that SF keeps reelecting him tells you something about the character of that sick yet beautiful city.
Mayor Gavin Newsom has said he would not allow his Police departments in any way enforce immigration laws or turn over to ICE illegal immigrants that are juveniles convicted of crimes. Anthony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, were returning from a picnic when they were gunned down on June 16, 2008 by Salvadoran national Edwin Ramos, 22. Ramos was arrested on felonies twice when he was 17 years old and never turned over to immigration because of his age.
And I guess that with that example you are trying to claim that all illegal immigrants gun down random people at a park, right? Ramos was made accountable for his crimes, and paid for being the murderer he is. His immigration status is a red herring argument, it has nothing to do with his crime. Legal immigrants and even citizens can also be murders, so what is your point? Being an illegal immigrant doesn't make you more or less of a criminal.
no really, his immigration status should have gotten him deported and thus that incedent would never have taken place. What kind of mental case are you that you would want a felon who is not even a citizen to stay in your country? We have enough criminals as is we dont need to be taking in the rest of the worlds scum. Immigration is fine, twice convicted felons of other nationalities have no business in our nation.
I am not advocating for felons, nor do I want him to stay in this country. Re-read my comment, and see my point. I agree, if you commit a crime, you should be deported. Unfortunately, people use these specific examples of criminal behavior to speak negatively of immigration as a whole. Ramos needed to be deported for being a criminal, but the fact that he was an illegal immigrant, again, did not make him more of a criminal. But I do agree that anybody who commits a crime, should be removed.
No i suppose the status of his immigration did not necessarily have anything to do with the murderous aspects of his life but then again it may have. Of course you cannot generalize all illegals in the same bucket but you can say that many felons who come here are illegal immigrants simply because they would be denied entry though legit channels. It is in everyone's interests to have set in stone immigration policy that is enforced. , a policy that takes into account migrant workers needs..
Agreed. I feel that if any group of illegal immigrants should be given legal residency, it should be the agriculture, migrant workers, and the American-raised,educated, college bound students who are in essence American at heart, if not on paper. They should all be granted legality with a signed affidavit that they will not ask for any government assistance for at least five years. We should reward merit, not laziness. Don't you agree?
Gavin seems to know how to carry himself and defends his points directly. That is his good quality. My concern is that he buys into the "Save the Planet" hype. It is like putting panic in the minds of people by telling them they will die someday. Our focus needs to be on how to adapt instead of trying to stop the inevitable! The factors that contribute to warming of the polar regions are far bigger than our planet itself. Who can stop a volcano? Who can stop an earthquake?
Ok, gavin's campaign manager works hard to get gavin elected as mayor while gavin is working hard on managers wife, holding her feet up to the high heavens and slamming her box. This must be deemed progressive values.
he had done nothing with the homeless problem here in san francisco. two terms and still nothing! it actually gotten worst! more homeless on the streets.
I dont like newsom either, but you need psychiatric evaluation. 9 posts in a row. You must be one of those internet thugs. You know the ones that talk shit,but in real life youre a ballerina.
Obama is the real deal. Newsom is a puffed up mama's boy who sold out his best friend. Anyone who would do that to a friend, has no ethics, and would sell anyone out as well.
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Ronald Reagan was the grandfather of American SUBCULTURE. The fucking rednecks, racists, neo-Nazis, neocons, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and all the Confederate Flag Waving sphincter remnants pushed their Nazi agenda. If they had their way gays would be exterminated in concentration camps.
What a pile of shit. Community organizers are beneficial, but there's no way the equate to being governor. What's worse is that he attacks Palin comparing her to OBAMA who's been campaigning for 18 months when really the only fair comparison would be Biden.
Newsom is just like Palin. Reads from a script, doesn't take questions from the press or public, has handlers that keep negative comments from him so he doesn't get depressed and is married to a right wing nut job.
I completely disagree with youl. Gavin, of all the mayor's I have known in San Francisco, is either utterly genuine and candid, or he is the best faker I've ever seen. I will go with the former, most grateful that we have him!!
I dissagree with Newsome on his support of gay marriage, yet he was dead on of his critique of Sarah Palin. You have to give it to this man: he does have courage to stand by his convictions.
Let me explain the liberal values to you! 1. All should be free to live the way they feel like living within the law. 2. Everyone should be equal, regardless of their religious values! 3. Solidarity for the weak! 4. No hypocrisy!, If one principle counts for one thing it should count for all things!. Not pro-gun but anti abortion! If abortion is killing, isn't it stupid to own a gun, which is also an instrument to kill?! 5. Individuals make up society, so they should be able to be who they are
1)No kidding! Is that a value unique to liberals? NO! 2)We have a constitution. What the heck does religion have to do with it? Oh, I forgot. Libs HATE religion except for enviromentalism. 3)Nice Marxist-like value 4)Liberalism is based on hypocrisy. Non sequitur! 5)OK, but per 1)I am not going to hire someone who has a pink mowhawk and piercings in every part of their body. I am free not to hire freaks within the law. Thanks for the comment. At least you answered the question.
No problem, we might have different values. But one thing I do agree with you on is that we shouldn't attack each other without any base. That's why I was more than pleased to answer your question! I have a lot of respect for people that can express their political opinion in a civilized matter.. We clearly don't agree on many things. But at least we can agree in listening to each other.
I love disagreeing with you! Cause the world would be very boring if I couldn't.
Ralpho125 - Agreed! Different values and views and spirited debate makes life interesting. You sound like someone I could introduce as my "intelligent liberal friend"! Good luck in November.
Recently? Moron please! NEOCONS had the majority for 30 years until 2006. PeLosi and Reid are NOT considered liberals at all. Besides this shit started when your NEOCON God Ronnie Reagan came into office.
Reagan solved all of the deep, deep shit Carter had gotten us into. Its just that with all of that shit, and the Soviets to boot, there was little more he could do. If Pelosi and Reid are not liberal enough for you, I shudder to think who is. Your name says it all.
Gavin can go F himself. This cocksucker should have been arrested for not following the law on illegals and on gay marriage. He is the biggest ass second only to that whore Pelosi.
Occasionally, I vote for or against things simply by looking at who's for it and who's against it. If Twosome Newsom is one of the against- It's got my vote.
I was watching Sean Hannitys interview with Sarah Palin and they were talking about obamas ground troops in Alaska. She said they might find people with ruffled feathers. It would have been a great response if she would have said, "What that they might find that Bill Ayers the unrepentant terrorist is my friend or that I would go to a racist church? I dont think so."
I love how the liberals are going after Palin instead of McCain. Are they saying that Obama can't compete against McCain? so compare experience against the VP? Listen to what they say...they all say the same thing..."we really need to look at the person who will be in the most important position " "the person who will be a heartbeat away from the presidency" ...what about the inexperience of Obama running for the actual position of PRESIDENT.
really? the poor pay no taxes other than social security and medicare both of which they end up using. That sounds like a deal to me. The rich on the other hand get back a pittance of what they pay in. Sounds like a bum deal to me. Republicans are crony capitalists these days but democrats are damn near socialists with no real concept of liberty, self-reliance, or strength. Your all poor of character. Its always the other guy's fault right? A vote for either D or R is a vote for corruption.
Absolutely! The middle class worker is falling into an economic abyss, while the lazy class is reaping the benefits of their so called "needy" situation, sitting back as the checks come in the mail every first of the month. I have a friend, who does social work, who tells me about people that go into her offices wearing designer glasses, and name-brand clothing. I'm sorry, but if you can afford some $300 Gucci sunglasses, you can afford to pay your own bills.
Am I the only person that notices this but is Gavin Newsom on a coke high? Talking at lightning speed, all jittery, wide-eyed, and sweating profusely.
What do you mean the rich only get back a pittance of what they pay in? They have been getting that back and more on the non-living wages they pay their workers and the high profits they roll in on their discardable land-filling toxic products...
God damn, you know what's the problem with this thread? The fact that you all want benefits for yourself. If you're able to sit on youtube, the internet, and have the time to type something. Your life is going well.
"Americans are the only people who think anything bad can't happen to them."
Gavin talks about other politicians and sarcastically talks about being proud of them. I can say with all honesty, many people are embarrassed by Newsome. All across the country he is a laughing stock and S.F. is also because of this drunken idiot.
Uh..duh.. You didn't answer the question. If I ask you to define 'positive' don't say it's the opposite of 'negative'. The fact is liberals have no values other than to be negative about everyone else!! AND THAT IS WHY YOU FAIL! All the money, press bias, celebrities and whoopla, Obama's message is "vote for me, cause I ain't Bush" and that is change and change is good...blah blah blah. Not an original idea or leader on anything. And he is tied with McCain in the polls? FAILURE OF LIBERALISM.
You still can't answer the simple question. What are liberal values? You bore me with your anti republican blather. You and your sheep keep voting for democrats and you get exactly what you deserve. Government control of YOUR life.
obama took a shot a small town mayors like palin throughout the nation which are more than big city, elitist mayors like newsom. fool! a shot at com. organizor's was that response of his.
As a native San Franciscian, I must say you have the right to follow party lines and tow that line but you are not doing the best job in the city. All you are doing is pandering to the fringe groups and politicians which give the rest of America ammunition to mock, ridicule and joke about SF and CA. Run for Gov slot and find out!
First time I have ever seen, or even heard of for that matter, of Gavin Newsom. I sincerely hope for your country's sake that we see much more of this young man. Impressive would be an understatement.
He speaks well, but he hasn't done much. Muni is worse during his reign as mayor and the murder rate in the mission is getting bad. I hope he doesn't run for governor of California because I don't think he will do a good job. That said, Gavin Newsom does speak well and Go Obama.
Wow, after watching the whole thing I gotta say, this cat is off the hook. He makes so much sense. Great fucking post man, I wouldn't be surprised if this dude ran for President himself someday, I'd fucking vote for him right now.
what ever happens in his personal life is not for us to judge, yes it is wrong that he did what he did but all humans make mistakes and don't act like u never done anything to hurt another person. I'm originally from the bay and he runs that city greatly. don't judge someones political stand by there personal life, judge them by there achiments droman
The greatness of a man is not measured by political achievements. I responded to your assertion that he is a great guy. It's funny to me how Democrats and Republicans will always use the "personal life" card when their guy and their personal indiscretions become public. Since I am neither a Democrat or Republican I think both represent all the problems this great country has. Like Newsom, both parties pander to special interests and want to see government expanded into people's lives.
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1 cor 1:18For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
chose jesus or rejct him. thats your choice. we all WILL stand before jesus one day, for those who chose jesus while they had the chance. it will be a great day
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
This mayor is speaking Satan's words, this mayor is trying to get you to support gay rights, and is supportive of those living in this lifestyle, what does God say about gay rights?
1 cor 6:9-10, Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders will inherit the kingdom of God.
either chose to follow this major or jesus. that choice is up to you. those who chose jesus ill see you in heaven
mrcooldude964 10 months ago
@mrcooldude964
You have to remember that the bible serves as only a pointless rambling for some people who dnt have a faith. Therefore you must accept people who formulate their argument without the help of a scripture; it seems that the only opposition to gay marriage comes from a book in which we are dictated to and must have blind belief in. This can provide the foundation to your belief but does not mean homosexuality is an abomination- it is regarded so by you as you have been told so.
dagll 8 months ago
@dagll 1 cor 1:1818For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The time is coming when you will stand before Jesus, and all that will matter than is did you receive Jesus while you had the chance or not, if you're going to try to argue with God about his word is not true, you're going to lose the argument, turn from living in sin and receive Jesus will you still can.
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964
Well thank you; you have reiterated my argument. You simply believe in something you have been told, blindly believing in something which, in this world, hasn't been qualified in the way most things have around us scientifically thus it is never going to be entirely valid. But if you want take a religious route then ok; do you not realize that the old testament was clearly influenced by man- even the creation story; there is discussion about days, nights etc..
dagll 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964
... all language that we are familiar with; its like dreams; all components of our dreams are of reality. Unless, even more ignorantly, people take a fundamentalist approach. The fact that some areas of a scripture seem open to interpretation shows that every human clearly uses higher source of morality; the bible does not teach us what is right and wrong- we understand that through our environment.. and similarly with our parents. It is all very natural and the bible helps to...
dagll 8 months ago
@dagll the bible does teach what is right and wrong. you just chose to not accept it. 1 cor 1:1818For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
this hell and heaven you chose to deny. you will be in one of them forever, chose is yours choice one. jesus = heaven satan = hell, im glad i chose heaven
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964
Why are you saying that I am not accepting? Please don't make assumptions. How can u not get my point. You're arguing from the context of the bible. The bible does say what is right or wrong just like I could preach that message from Corinthians in my own words. My point is that you accept this; you are certain of it which is fine as I must not discriminate but equally, you must recognize you are blindly believing words and thus, those words serve as no authority to other people
dagll 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964
circumstances. So, in loving you neighbour, and realizing the danger of recognizing punishments for other seemingly trivial practices like disobeying parents, I think it is far better to allow someone the hardly detrimental right of a life without discrimination and simple rights.
dagll 8 months ago
@dagll 1 cor 1:1818For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
The time is coming when you will stand before Jesus, and all that will matter than is did you receive Jesus while you had the chance or not, if you're going to try to argue with God about his word is not true, you're going to lose the argument, turn from living in sin and receive Jesus while you still can.
mrcooldude964 8 months ago
@mrcooldude964
... assert these morals that we have in life. The 2 most important commandments are love your neighbour as you do yourself and love god with all your heart etc.. Jesus, also, often reiterates that allow someone to sin as you father will have their punishment. Now to the discussion of sin; there are many barbaric statements in the old testament which any sane person must dismiss as clearly disobeying your parents is a common practices. Finally, asserting my discussion about an..
dagll 8 months ago
@dagll
.. ability to interpret, we often decide which acts are more sinful; if you are taking the opinion that someone is sinning due to this lifestyle, then you must also understand we are sinning at an equally sinful level if we disobey our parents but, as I said before, we do have an ability to interpret which means any person who understands this point must realize that we cannot possibly take a fundamentalist. Lastly, someone else's life really does not effect another's in usual..
dagll 8 months ago
i think i found the one and i mean ONE politician i hate and am disgusted by more than obama
withpaul123 1 year ago
@withpaul123 I RAISE MY GLASS TO YOU. HES A RAVING EGOMANIACAL LUNATIC. I AM YOUR FRIEND FOREVER!!!l LOL
ANNA00732 1 year ago
It's crazy how quickly we forget how this guy fucked his best friends wife 2 years ago
rodthepimp 1 year ago
IT'S THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
howmanypages 1 year ago
@howmanypages YEP, HELL FINALLY BE OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO SOON. BASTARD, HE SHOULD BE HOMELESS
ANNA00732 1 year ago
@howmanypages YEP, HELL FINALLY BE OUT OF SAN FRANCISCO SOON. BASTARD, HE SHOULD BE HOMELESS GAVIN THE BASTARD, NOT YOU!!!
ANNA00732 1 year ago
he is a piece of crap
joerail99 1 year ago
he sounds like a car sales man
lovenatalieportman4 1 year ago
People in san francisco this loudmout is not helping you. this guy is going to put pain on san francisco. thats a shame. california don't elect this guy as governor. those red states are where the economic and demographic power is moving. it is also where the commidities are. think it through.
mizzoulibertarian 1 year ago
MORON
dodgerboy86 1 year ago
idiots!
frogjumpy 1 year ago
He is so stupid, geezy and sleezy...
frogjumpy 1 year ago
SF Biggest Joke. e makes $250,000 a year. Buts a $800, 000 house in sf. and unemployment in sf is up 11%. Big JOKE
erc355 2 years ago
He's H.O.T
Is he one of those gay politicians?
Kelz06081984 2 years ago
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LoVeStoned2424 2 years ago
Thorry he's out.
Nobama0000 2 years ago
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Thank God Gavin Newsom will never be our Governor. The fruits and nut in San Francisco can keep him.
Mrnavytimes 2 years ago
Newsom will never have political career outside of corrupt San Fransicko. He's a reprobate and most people know it. That's why the little shit heel dropped out of the Governor's race before it started.
flagwaver1969 2 years ago
Finally he got smart and backed out of running for California governor. Guess he didn't want to have to debate Jerry Brown. Thank God for term limits on mayor in San Francisco. He can now go seek a job with King Obama in DC.
copper2150 2 years ago
Okay sorry how can you trust a guy that sleeps with your best friends wife ?
barryobama2012 2 years ago 4
@barryobama2012 True
t10bravo 1 year ago
How could we trust a guy that goes to rehab for Alcohol and COCAINE ? He would blow the states budget on BLOW ..........
barryobama2012 2 years ago 2
barryobama2012, Dubya is out of office.
OneoftheImmortals 2 years ago
This guy is a creep.
barryobama2012 2 years ago
Mayor Gavin Newsom has said he would not allow his Police departments in any way enforce immigration laws or turn over to ICE illegal immigrants that are juveniles convicted of crimes. Anthony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, were returning from a picnic when they were gunned down on June 16, 2008 by Salvadoran national Edwin Ramos, 22. Ramos was arrested on felonies twice when he was 17 years old and never turned over to immigration because of his age.
Mrnavytimes 2 years ago
Fuck yeah! Gavin Newsom 2010!
ATheGreat09 2 years ago 2
fuck you he sucks
Neo2012100 2 years ago
hottie
MzFlux 2 years ago
"by a show of hands, who wants to ban man + woman marriage and legalize same sex marriage?" quoted by this gayass trash newsom
Lorue12 2 years ago
What a total Asshat. I hope those N. Korean Nukes can reach the Bay area. lol
atacorion 2 years ago
NEWSOM!!!
mosdefjb 2 years ago
I love Mayor Newsom and will be happily visiting San Francisco this month, and will be proud to be in such an open and accepting city.
rh1455 2 years ago
pencil neck liberal fag boy go away gayvin
obamaassclown1 2 years ago
this guy's annoying. everyone hates this guy here in So Cal
MrBloc7 2 years ago
It's Gavin Newsom's Relapse Campaign!
chanceSF 2 years ago
He's so sexy!!!!!!
ecastshiek 2 years ago
He's such a socialist!
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
who cares he is hot as hell
cosmeticnerd 2 years ago
OMG, I know. Never been into politics but once I saw him, he caught my attention. He's so sleazy.
LoVeStoned2424 2 years ago
Gavin Newsom is an a@@ - and the more he talks the more he proves it. I don't think his ego would fit in the Governor's mansion. Heaven help California if he becomes Governor.
cyberdoller4u 2 years ago
Another left wing nut.
juxblaze 2 years ago
Correct.
Born and raised in SF, Newsom came to speak to my senior class, he is a royal socialist nutbag.
TimeWarp66 2 years ago
but a HOT one *winks*
cosmeticnerd 2 years ago
To bad he has a bad habit of fucking his friend and colleagues wives. The man is the biggest asshat alive and the fact that SF keeps reelecting him tells you something about the character of that sick yet beautiful city.
budda10000 2 years ago
Is he out of detox already?
stanleythughes 2 years ago
Mayor Gavin Newsom has said he would not allow his Police departments in any way enforce immigration laws or turn over to ICE illegal immigrants that are juveniles convicted of crimes. Anthony Bologna, 48, and his sons Michael, 20, and Matthew, 16, were returning from a picnic when they were gunned down on June 16, 2008 by Salvadoran national Edwin Ramos, 22. Ramos was arrested on felonies twice when he was 17 years old and never turned over to immigration because of his age.
Pappy7432 2 years ago
And I guess that with that example you are trying to claim that all illegal immigrants gun down random people at a park, right? Ramos was made accountable for his crimes, and paid for being the murderer he is. His immigration status is a red herring argument, it has nothing to do with his crime. Legal immigrants and even citizens can also be murders, so what is your point? Being an illegal immigrant doesn't make you more or less of a criminal.
ecastshiek 2 years ago
no really, his immigration status should have gotten him deported and thus that incedent would never have taken place. What kind of mental case are you that you would want a felon who is not even a citizen to stay in your country? We have enough criminals as is we dont need to be taking in the rest of the worlds scum. Immigration is fine, twice convicted felons of other nationalities have no business in our nation.
budda10000 2 years ago
I am not advocating for felons, nor do I want him to stay in this country. Re-read my comment, and see my point. I agree, if you commit a crime, you should be deported. Unfortunately, people use these specific examples of criminal behavior to speak negatively of immigration as a whole. Ramos needed to be deported for being a criminal, but the fact that he was an illegal immigrant, again, did not make him more of a criminal. But I do agree that anybody who commits a crime, should be removed.
ecastshiek 2 years ago
No i suppose the status of his immigration did not necessarily have anything to do with the murderous aspects of his life but then again it may have. Of course you cannot generalize all illegals in the same bucket but you can say that many felons who come here are illegal immigrants simply because they would be denied entry though legit channels. It is in everyone's interests to have set in stone immigration policy that is enforced. , a policy that takes into account migrant workers needs..
budda10000 2 years ago
Agreed. I feel that if any group of illegal immigrants should be given legal residency, it should be the agriculture, migrant workers, and the American-raised,educated, college bound students who are in essence American at heart, if not on paper. They should all be granted legality with a signed affidavit that they will not ask for any government assistance for at least five years. We should reward merit, not laziness. Don't you agree?
ecastshiek 2 years ago
Gavin seems to know how to carry himself and defends his points directly. That is his good quality. My concern is that he buys into the "Save the Planet" hype. It is like putting panic in the minds of people by telling them they will die someday. Our focus needs to be on how to adapt instead of trying to stop the inevitable! The factors that contribute to warming of the polar regions are far bigger than our planet itself. Who can stop a volcano? Who can stop an earthquake?
dukestuff 2 years ago
Ok, gavin's campaign manager works hard to get gavin elected as mayor while gavin is working hard on managers wife, holding her feet up to the high heavens and slamming her box. This must be deemed progressive values.
3storyhill 2 years ago
he had done nothing with the homeless problem here in san francisco. two terms and still nothing! it actually gotten worst! more homeless on the streets.
cablecar07 2 years ago
I dont like newsom either, but you need psychiatric evaluation. 9 posts in a row. You must be one of those internet thugs. You know the ones that talk shit,but in real life youre a ballerina.
specifictender 2 years ago
Newsom has my vote for Governor. I AM SO GLAD THAT WE FINALLY HAVE SOMEONE WHO ISN'T A PUSSY DEMOCRAT. GO NEWSOM!!!
ElPadreAmaru 2 years ago 4
Too bad he'll never win. Whether you agree with gay marriage or not, he broke the law when he allowed it in SF.
miguelito777 2 years ago
this guy haven't done much for the city of san francisco other than make a big mess! he is no good!
cablecar07 2 years ago
Newsom for better California 2010
dammitdexter 2 years ago 10
Liber AL vel Legis. sub figura CCXX.
wehauntyou 2 years ago
Obama is the real deal. Newsom is a puffed up mama's boy who sold out his best friend. Anyone who would do that to a friend, has no ethics, and would sell anyone out as well.
nickybadboy50 2 years ago
GOBAMA, GOGAVIN! As a Young Democrat I am looking forward to campaigning for him.
DantheDem 2 years ago
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Ronald Reagan was the grandfather of American SUBCULTURE. The fucking rednecks, racists, neo-Nazis, neocons, Ann Coulter, Rush Limbaugh and all the Confederate Flag Waving sphincter remnants pushed their Nazi agenda. If they had their way gays would be exterminated in concentration camps.
Womanizer2985 2 years ago
Oh, go back to Datalounge, you paranoid freak.
infancysguard 2 years ago
He absolutely has my vote for governor!
Brahmsfourth 2 years ago 9
LOL! Gavin is dumber than he is stupid. It figures that you'd be supporting the biggest asshole on the ballot.
RadarGuidedVermin 2 years ago
GAV 4 GOV 2010!
knixphan 2 years ago 4
Obama =cool
Newsom =dude who banged his best friends wife. not cool
rodthepimp 2 years ago 2
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Obama = liar
Newsom = asshole
RadarGuidedVermin 2 years ago
Newsom for Governor of California 2010!!!!!!!
argentozombi 2 years ago 2
This guy is a fukcing fraud and so is Osama uhh umm I mean Obama...
killerbeau95 2 years ago
is there a Gavin Newsom bobblehead?
therealcaptobvious 3 years ago
Matt Gonzalez > Newsom. Newsom isn't a horrible guy but Gonzalez is the real deal. He sets the agenda.
djgiga 3 years ago
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chris7777777777777 3 years ago
Newson is so sexy I want to have his children.
lasvegasjh 3 years ago 2
What a pile of shit. Community organizers are beneficial, but there's no way the equate to being governor. What's worse is that he attacks Palin comparing her to OBAMA who's been campaigning for 18 months when really the only fair comparison would be Biden.
ovensleeper 3 years ago
Newsom is just like Palin. Reads from a script, doesn't take questions from the press or public, has handlers that keep negative comments from him so he doesn't get depressed and is married to a right wing nut job.
sfsoma 3 years ago
I completely disagree with youl. Gavin, of all the mayor's I have known in San Francisco, is either utterly genuine and candid, or he is the best faker I've ever seen. I will go with the former, most grateful that we have him!!
LifterWill 3 years ago
You probably like Obama.
poopstreek 3 years ago
San Fransisco Democrats! Great? You must be joking. these are enemies of the USA. Marxist, Socialist, out of touch elitists.
Come to Michigan, we'll show the real America.
DeeDonner 3 years ago
Gavin Newsom is Great
Nancy Pelosi is Great
Go Democrats!
8data 3 years ago
I dissagree with Newsome on his support of gay marriage, yet he was dead on of his critique of Sarah Palin. You have to give it to this man: he does have courage to stand by his convictions.
IG2HI 3 years ago
Let me explain the liberal values to you! 1. All should be free to live the way they feel like living within the law. 2. Everyone should be equal, regardless of their religious values! 3. Solidarity for the weak! 4. No hypocrisy!, If one principle counts for one thing it should count for all things!. Not pro-gun but anti abortion! If abortion is killing, isn't it stupid to own a gun, which is also an instrument to kill?! 5. Individuals make up society, so they should be able to be who they are
Ralpho125 3 years ago 2
1)No kidding! Is that a value unique to liberals? NO! 2)We have a constitution. What the heck does religion have to do with it? Oh, I forgot. Libs HATE religion except for enviromentalism. 3)Nice Marxist-like value 4)Liberalism is based on hypocrisy. Non sequitur! 5)OK, but per 1)I am not going to hire someone who has a pink mowhawk and piercings in every part of their body. I am free not to hire freaks within the law. Thanks for the comment. At least you answered the question.
HBzoophagous 3 years ago
No problem, we might have different values. But one thing I do agree with you on is that we shouldn't attack each other without any base. That's why I was more than pleased to answer your question! I have a lot of respect for people that can express their political opinion in a civilized matter.. We clearly don't agree on many things. But at least we can agree in listening to each other.
I love disagreeing with you! Cause the world would be very boring if I couldn't.
Ralpho125 3 years ago
Ralpho125 - Agreed! Different values and views and spirited debate makes life interesting. You sound like someone I could introduce as my "intelligent liberal friend"! Good luck in November.
HBzoophagous 3 years ago
No liberals are intelligent. They don't even realize that they are constantly biting the hand that feeds them.
Gallean88 3 years ago
Conseratives are morans who nearly destroyed the whole country...way to go dumbasses!
negrowithabrain 3 years ago
And just how did they manage to do that with a vastly liberal-democratic majority in the house and senate recently?
Gallean88 3 years ago
Recently? Moron please! NEOCONS had the majority for 30 years until 2006. PeLosi and Reid are NOT considered liberals at all. Besides this shit started when your NEOCON God Ronnie Reagan came into office.
negrowithabrain 3 years ago
Reagan solved all of the deep, deep shit Carter had gotten us into. Its just that with all of that shit, and the Soviets to boot, there was little more he could do. If Pelosi and Reid are not liberal enough for you, I shudder to think who is. Your name says it all.
Gallean88 3 years ago
Yes, liberals are famous for staying true to law #4.
Just look at John Kerry, Bill Clinton, George Soros, Ted Kennedy...
Etc, etc.
Gallean88 3 years ago
Gavin can go F himself. This cocksucker should have been arrested for not following the law on illegals and on gay marriage. He is the biggest ass second only to that whore Pelosi.
ihop23947 3 years ago
wow - a very eloquent response.
sisterqz 3 years ago
An incredibly eloquet response - impressive.
sisterqz 3 years ago
Occasionally, I vote for or against things simply by looking at who's for it and who's against it. If Twosome Newsom is one of the against- It's got my vote.
Gallean88 3 years ago
Honestly, I don't know gavin newsom that well so I don't have a real opinion of him.
BurtonKelly0 3 years ago
I loved it when gaven was caught cheating on his wife, all the gay males of SF were so pissed off it was with a woman...
San Fransisco, once a paradice, now lost to the left wing nuts.
TAXtheAtheist 3 years ago
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I was watching Sean Hannitys interview with Sarah Palin and they were talking about obamas ground troops in Alaska. She said they might find people with ruffled feathers. It would have been a great response if she would have said, "What that they might find that Bill Ayers the unrepentant terrorist is my friend or that I would go to a racist church? I dont think so."
wiferachel 3 years ago
Obama-ites should follow their leader and just vote "present" on election day!
hottubjeff 3 years ago
I love how the liberals are going after Palin instead of McCain. Are they saying that Obama can't compete against McCain? so compare experience against the VP? Listen to what they say...they all say the same thing..."we really need to look at the person who will be in the most important position " "the person who will be a heartbeat away from the presidency" ...what about the inexperience of Obama running for the actual position of PRESIDENT.
hottubjeff 3 years ago
Eight times in our history the V. President had to step in as President. McCain is 72 yrs. old, had health problems.
Funpaktr 3 years ago
Republicans only care about the rich and powerful. They always so they want to keep taxes low but in reality they only keep taxes low for the RICH.
quest8899 3 years ago 3
really? the poor pay no taxes other than social security and medicare both of which they end up using. That sounds like a deal to me. The rich on the other hand get back a pittance of what they pay in. Sounds like a bum deal to me. Republicans are crony capitalists these days but democrats are damn near socialists with no real concept of liberty, self-reliance, or strength. Your all poor of character. Its always the other guy's fault right? A vote for either D or R is a vote for corruption.
budda10000 2 years ago
Absolutely! The middle class worker is falling into an economic abyss, while the lazy class is reaping the benefits of their so called "needy" situation, sitting back as the checks come in the mail every first of the month. I have a friend, who does social work, who tells me about people that go into her offices wearing designer glasses, and name-brand clothing. I'm sorry, but if you can afford some $300 Gucci sunglasses, you can afford to pay your own bills.
ecastshiek 2 years ago
Am I the only person that notices this but is Gavin Newsom on a coke high? Talking at lightning speed, all jittery, wide-eyed, and sweating profusely.
HBSurfer001 2 years ago
What do you mean the rich only get back a pittance of what they pay in? They have been getting that back and more on the non-living wages they pay their workers and the high profits they roll in on their discardable land-filling toxic products...
xapplimatic 2 years ago
God damn, you know what's the problem with this thread? The fact that you all want benefits for yourself. If you're able to sit on youtube, the internet, and have the time to type something. Your life is going well.
"Americans are the only people who think anything bad can't happen to them."
-World War Z
Jersando 2 years ago 2
Gavin is as corrupt,disgusting and perverted as his city.
sanannmay 3 years ago
Why is it that everyone who criticizes Sarah Palin or at least begs the questions of 'who she is' makes direct comparisons to Obama instead of Biden?
meganmcdonald2006 3 years ago 2
Gavin talks about other politicians and sarcastically talks about being proud of them. I can say with all honesty, many people are embarrassed by Newsome. All across the country he is a laughing stock and S.F. is also because of this drunken idiot.
phineastbuster 3 years ago 4
Same old liberal BS. Government control of your life.
HBzoophagous 3 years ago
That is completely untrue. SF has prospered because of liberal ideals and values.
quest8899 3 years ago
Please do tell. What are liberal ideals and values?? And please define 'prosper'?
HBzoophagous 3 years ago
HBzoophagous
Liberals are the OPPOSITE OF Neocon Repugs, who have no problem with Socialism as long as our taxes go to welfare for Wall Street.
spookytom 3 years ago
Uh..duh.. You didn't answer the question. If I ask you to define 'positive' don't say it's the opposite of 'negative'. The fact is liberals have no values other than to be negative about everyone else!! AND THAT IS WHY YOU FAIL! All the money, press bias, celebrities and whoopla, Obama's message is "vote for me, cause I ain't Bush" and that is change and change is good...blah blah blah. Not an original idea or leader on anything. And he is tied with McCain in the polls? FAILURE OF LIBERALISM.
HBzoophagous 3 years ago
HBzoophagous
Go ahead and continue voting for the Repugs since you think they are doing a FINE job.
spookytom 3 years ago
You still can't answer the simple question. What are liberal values? You bore me with your anti republican blather. You and your sheep keep voting for democrats and you get exactly what you deserve. Government control of YOUR life.
HBzoophagous 3 years ago
You know, Obama reminds me of Lenin a bit.
Your lives will be wonderful...worker's paradise...spread the wealth...remove the wealthy...change, yes we can.
*Applause*
Gallean88 3 years ago
special ed comes to mind when i think of you...
negrowithabrain 3 years ago
Hey quest8899,
I am waiting. What are liberal ideals and values?? Don't chicken out on me. Or maybe you are just full of liberal hot air, between your ears that is.
HBzoophagous 3 years ago 2
I think he did.
BurtonKelly0 3 years ago
obama took a shot a small town mayors like palin throughout the nation which are more than big city, elitist mayors like newsom. fool! a shot at com. organizor's was that response of his.
bjlewis101 3 years ago
sad thing is when san fran falls through the earth they will be calling for the federal govt.
bjlewis101 3 years ago 2
If obama dosent become potus, that means amerikkka dosent deserve him & that they are happy w/ the world as is!!
OBAMACHICK3 3 years ago
If obama dosent become potus, that means amerikkka dosent deserve him & that they are happy w/ the world as is!!
OBAMACHICK3 3 years ago
Newsome is a disgrace. In bed w/special interests and supports illegal immigration.
jeff99az 3 years ago 3
you better learn about american history...america won't be america immagrants
blaxican2000 3 years ago
Isn't this the same guy who released drug dealing illegal aliens?
Timasion 3 years ago
Love this guy!
JesusSavesAtCitibank 3 years ago
Gavin,
As a native San Franciscian, I must say you have the right to follow party lines and tow that line but you are not doing the best job in the city. All you are doing is pandering to the fringe groups and politicians which give the rest of America ammunition to mock, ridicule and joke about SF and CA. Run for Gov slot and find out!
GZVSI 3 years ago
First time I have ever seen, or even heard of for that matter, of Gavin Newsom. I sincerely hope for your country's sake that we see much more of this young man. Impressive would be an understatement.
Great post, added to favorites.
carmie1818 3 years ago 2
He speaks well, but he hasn't done much. Muni is worse during his reign as mayor and the murder rate in the mission is getting bad. I hope he doesn't run for governor of California because I don't think he will do a good job. That said, Gavin Newsom does speak well and Go Obama.
emptyavoid 3 years ago
Wow, after watching the whole thing I gotta say, this cat is off the hook. He makes so much sense. Great fucking post man, I wouldn't be surprised if this dude ran for President himself someday, I'd fucking vote for him right now.
ogjimkenobi 3 years ago
Wow man, homeboy is one hellavu energetic speaker, Ive never actually seen him speak before. I'm excited!
Thanks Zennie for this post.
ogjimkenobi 3 years ago
GO NEWSOM! he's a great mayor and a great guy.
blaxican2000 3 years ago
A great guy? I think Alex Tourk would disagree.
droman30 3 years ago
what ever happens in his personal life is not for us to judge, yes it is wrong that he did what he did but all humans make mistakes and don't act like u never done anything to hurt another person. I'm originally from the bay and he runs that city greatly. don't judge someones political stand by there personal life, judge them by there achiments droman
blaxican2000 3 years ago
The greatness of a man is not measured by political achievements. I responded to your assertion that he is a great guy. It's funny to me how Democrats and Republicans will always use the "personal life" card when their guy and their personal indiscretions become public. Since I am neither a Democrat or Republican I think both represent all the problems this great country has. Like Newsom, both parties pander to special interests and want to see government expanded into people's lives.
droman30 3 years ago