@wmbrown8- I did not know that KGO pioneered "Circle 7." I recently thumbed through a 1960 Los Angeles-edition TV Guide, showing KABC's logo as a localized version of the "Circle A" logo, with a "7" substituted for the flattened lower-case "abc."
@nick41009 Wow, you actually got the footage still! The theme to KBS/RPN's NewsWatch was not original but was revised several times. It later was used on WABC-TV (ABC-7 New York) Eyewitness news from 1968 to 1983 and it reappeared again in 1986 to 1989.
Didn't Pat Harper anchor a syndicated newcast in the 80s (Independent somethihg-or-other? with a co-anchor named Jorgensen?...I am old enough to remember Roger Grimsby in the mid 1960s when he anchored at KGO in SF before heading for NY. (The stations,including KABC and I guess WLS) all had the "Circle Seven" logo in the early 60s.
@nick41009 - First, Ms. Harper co-anchored the nationally syndicated "Independent Network News" with Bill Jorgensen and Steve Bosh (both of whom were her co-anchors on WPIX) starting in 1980. Secondly, KGO was the FIRST to use G. Dean Smith's "Circle 7" logo, starting Aug. 27, 1962; it wasn't until December that its use spread to the other ABC O&O's. (The "Circle 7" preceded by nearly two months the first uses of Paul Rand's "abc in a circle" logo.)
@tonyblak33 yeah, back in the day, the ABC 4:30 movie would show 2 movies from actress Jennifer Jones (1919-2009), either "A Farewell to Arms" or "The Towering Inferno". I personally remember seeing The Towering Inferno and since I lived in a high rise, it made me nervous. Sometimes, in a quick promo like this, they would say just the actor's name. Once during Elvis week, the announcer said "Elvis Presley.. Monday on the 4:30 movie". Ahhh memories!!
@RichieEastside Awesome news theme - and I live in Canada, but have visited New York on a few occasions. They should bring this back. (Local TV's so-o-o-o boring on both sides of the 49th now - its golden years were the 1960s and 1970s. Beancounters, with their 'let's syndicate rather than produce our own shows', mentality ruined local TV starting in the 1980s.)
@Josefin7 - However, this aircheck was exactly 22 years and eight days after the station signed on as WJZ-TV (calls that later went to Channel 13 in Baltimore).
@dinfg6 - Interestingly enough, Grimsby replaced his future co-anchor, Bill Beutel, at WABC in mid-1968 on their 11 P.M. newscast. (Beutel was named ABC News London bureau chief at the time; when he returned to New York in September 1970, he replaced Tom Dunn as Grimsby's co-anchor.)
Wait when Roger left KGO was Called Channel 7 Newsbeat for a short time until With Ray Tannehill until 1969 when Van Amburg and Jerry Jensen really took over Roger Grimsby's seat for Channel 7 News Scene. Incidentally in 1986 Grimsby and VanAmburg were fired for going after WABC and KGO Management. Grimsby was moved from KGO tp WABC in 1968 for going after KGO management
Does anybody else have any Clips of Roger Grimsby doing the KGO News in 1965- 1968 before ABC Sent him to WABC tv. I Always wanted to see grimsby as the San Francisco Anchor.
Oh wow! Do I remember this! I was born in '66, and my parents were loyal Eyewitness News viewers. I remember those multiple desks and Roger Grimsley (is that his name?) and Melba Tolliver. I also remember gettting Melba Moore (the singer) and Melba Tolliver confused when I was little. LOL! I always loved this ending theme.
While I don't rember this opening or crew(I was born in '73) they did use this music up until the mid-1980s. So dramatic,it just grabs your attion..lol.
"This has been a color presentation ... " ... LMAO! How times have changed in only 40 years ... to think color is a given now, and HD is soon to be as well.
@SHRINA17 You're right, it is really good dramatic music, as you said. In fact, the music that was used as the theme for "Eyewitness News" was originally composed by Lalo Schifrin as music for the film "Cool Hand Luke" starring Paul Newman.
Lalo Schifrin did the music?? Thanks for that tidbit. I always loved this theme. Some things shouldn't be changed...that was one of them....lol.....all the best to you!
Someone mentioned this could've been Aug. 18, 1970. Sounds like this would indeed be the case, as someone else put up the opening moments of that night's "ABC Evening News," anchored solo by Howard K. Smith (his then co-anchor, Frank Reynolds, was on vacation), as per:
Tex Antoine {"Uncle Wethbee'} was forced to leave "EYEWITNESS NEWS" in 1976 after his unfortunate on-air aside, "Confucius say, if rape is inevitable, then relax and enjoy it". He was later featured on WNEW-TV's "10 O'CLOCK NEWS" during 1977-'78, then retired from TV. He died in January 1983 of natural causes, 'prausch'.
NYCRetroGuy... I haven't heard the name Tom Dunn in years. I recall he reported on Channel 9 in the mid-80s, before Roland Smith came along in 1988 or so. Somewhere else in YouTube, Mr. Smith is shown reporting on Channel 2 with Jim Jensen. Whatever became of these guys?
CBS legend Jim Jensen passed away in 1999 from a heart attack. Tom Dunn died from esophageal cancer in 2006. As far as Rolland Smith; he retired from TV news in 2006, and is a published poet, and a popular public speaker and independent producer.
The spelling of Rolland Smith's co-anchor (1973-78, 1981-82) was Dave Marash. Mr. Smith had other co-anchors on the 11 P.M. newscasts, namely Vic Miles (1978-79) and Michele Marsh (1979-81, 1982-86).
Speaking of the "'swirling 7' I.D.," The last time I saw this was, in all places, Chicago, as my family and I were en route moving from NYC to upper Minnesota in late '75. There were also the "half moon, left curved triangle, and right football" ID, and the Channel 7 emblem opened in clockwise full circle way in the background, then suddenly coming right at the screen. I missed those in 1977, when they went to that shadow from the right, starting with KGO in SanFran.
If August of '70 is the case, that puts my mom at about a touch over 4 months with me, and I'd be born about 4 months thereafter, albeit a tad prematurely at that.
Just saw the film Cool Hand Luke and was surprised to hear this theme as part of the soundtrack,didn't realize that's where Eyewitness news got it from.
From what I've seen of the history of "The 4:30 Movie," it's probably one of the greatest ironies that "Cool Hand Luke" apparently never ran on WABC. (I did, however, see it on rival WPIX over a decade ago.)
You and millions of others. They had the entire tri-state area in their hands. Both tv & radio. It is really sad it is all history. Radio & TV are not the same and will never be like this again.
Bill Aylward left WABC around late 1972/early 1973, and anchored a 10:30 P.M. newscast for a short time at WPIX which followed the 10 P.M. news anchored by the late Joe Harper (ex of future New York TV news legend Pat Harper).
Thanks for mentioning Pat Harper. Indeed, she was a legend in New York! Emmy Award winner, wonderful sense of humor, and a great anchor and reporter. She is truly missed.
Indeed that's Tex Antoine. Tex, Tom Dunn and Bill Alyward were all original members of the Channel 7 "Eyewitness News Team". Also, not sure about Lou Boda. In the early years of Eyewitness News, my recollection is that they had a lot of different guys doing sports!
I'd been advised that the original air date of this particular edition may've been Aug. 12, 1970 - a Sunday. The anchors here were Tom Dunn and Bill Aylward. As to who voiced the promo/I.D., I'm not sure but it sounds like it could be veteran staffer Don Dowd. And in those days, Ch. 7's late-night movie umbrella was called "The Movie Matinee."
My bad - the Sunday was Aug. 16, 1970, which date I'd been advised this would've been. Aug. 12 was Wednesday. In any event, this was before Bill Beutel was first paired with Roger Grimsby.
I miss the "swirling circle 7"... They did it that way, and a few others as well, on WLS in Chicago... Another ABC O&O thing, I suppose. Would love to see those on here.
This must have been either Tuesday August 18th or Wednesday August 19th, 1970, because the end of the clip plugs Jennifer Jones on 'The 4:30 Movie' the following day. The '4:30 Movie' for Wednesday the 19th was Part One of the Jennifer Jones movie 'Tender Is The Night' with Part Two the following day.
@noahf67 - Check the Aug. 18, 1970 New York Times (or TV Guide listings designated for that day) to see which film aired on that late evening's "Best of Broadway" for the answer. ("TBoB" last ran on Sept. 30, 1970; replaced effective Oct. 1 by "The One O'Clock Movie" on weeknights and "Saturday / Sunday Night Movie" on weekends.)
@wmbrown8- I did not know that KGO pioneered "Circle 7." I recently thumbed through a 1960 Los Angeles-edition TV Guide, showing KABC's logo as a localized version of the "Circle A" logo, with a "7" substituted for the flattened lower-case "abc."
nick41009 6 months ago
@nick41009 Wow, you actually got the footage still! The theme to KBS/RPN's NewsWatch was not original but was revised several times. It later was used on WABC-TV (ABC-7 New York) Eyewitness news from 1968 to 1983 and it reappeared again in 1986 to 1989.
lianlaspinas 5 months ago
Didn't Pat Harper anchor a syndicated newcast in the 80s (Independent somethihg-or-other? with a co-anchor named Jorgensen?...I am old enough to remember Roger Grimsby in the mid 1960s when he anchored at KGO in SF before heading for NY. (The stations,including KABC and I guess WLS) all had the "Circle Seven" logo in the early 60s.
nick41009 6 months ago
@nick41009 - First, Ms. Harper co-anchored the nationally syndicated "Independent Network News" with Bill Jorgensen and Steve Bosh (both of whom were her co-anchors on WPIX) starting in 1980. Secondly, KGO was the FIRST to use G. Dean Smith's "Circle 7" logo, starting Aug. 27, 1962; it wasn't until December that its use spread to the other ABC O&O's. (The "Circle 7" preceded by nearly two months the first uses of Paul Rand's "abc in a circle" logo.)
wmbrown6 6 months ago
WOW! Sure brings back some memories and yes I remember those 4:30 movies.
RedfireBlueice 7 months ago
I used to love that theme music... They stopped using it somewhere in the late 1980's or early 1990's I think?
nyredbull2010 10 months ago
Jennifer Jones?
tonyblak33 11 months ago
@tonyblak33 yeah, back in the day, the ABC 4:30 movie would show 2 movies from actress Jennifer Jones (1919-2009), either "A Farewell to Arms" or "The Towering Inferno". I personally remember seeing The Towering Inferno and since I lived in a high rise, it made me nervous. Sometimes, in a quick promo like this, they would say just the actor's name. Once during Elvis week, the announcer said "Elvis Presley.. Monday on the 4:30 movie". Ahhh memories!!
OreckBoy1 11 months ago
@tonyblak33 she was a very famous actress back in the day
pictureisup1 7 months ago
ALL COPYRIGHTS ACKNOWLEGED !!!!
East180thStreetYard 1 year ago
This is the classic news music.
RichieEastside 1 year ago
@RichieEastside Awesome news theme - and I live in Canada, but have visited New York on a few occasions. They should bring this back. (Local TV's so-o-o-o boring on both sides of the 49th now - its golden years were the 1960s and 1970s. Beancounters, with their 'let's syndicate rather than produce our own shows', mentality ruined local TV starting in the 1980s.)
markojameow 11 months ago
so why do they have so many desks?
jste77 1 year ago
used to love that revolving number 7....why can't they have that simplicity today?? now its alot of blinding digital shit- no creativity at all
ioriorioriorio 1 year ago 2
that is where geraldo rivera started
rafaelrod57 1 year ago
I'd give a year of my life to spend a day in 1970 NYC. Post 2000 culture has been a hodgepodge of generic blandness.
DontCancelThisAcctYT 1 year ago
Wow they were using that same music all the way through the early 1990s at our local ABC station in San Francisco KGO
tsliao 1 year ago
@tsliao But i noticed in the 1990's KGO only used Cool Hand Luke For Breaking News up to 1994
recto89 1 year ago
ABC Celebrated 17 Years ON Television in 1970.
Josefin7 1 year ago
@Josefin7 - However, this aircheck was exactly 22 years and eight days after the station signed on as WJZ-TV (calls that later went to Channel 13 in Baltimore).
wmbrown6 1 year ago
Who Did Roger Gimsby Replace on WABC in NY when Roger KGO anchor position was taken over by VanAmburg and Jerry Jensen.
dinfg6 1 year ago
@dinfg6 - Interestingly enough, Grimsby replaced his future co-anchor, Bill Beutel, at WABC in mid-1968 on their 11 P.M. newscast. (Beutel was named ABC News London bureau chief at the time; when he returned to New York in September 1970, he replaced Tom Dunn as Grimsby's co-anchor.)
wmbrown6 1 year ago
Wait when Roger left KGO was Called Channel 7 Newsbeat for a short time until With Ray Tannehill until 1969 when Van Amburg and Jerry Jensen really took over Roger Grimsby's seat for Channel 7 News Scene. Incidentally in 1986 Grimsby and VanAmburg were fired for going after WABC and KGO Management. Grimsby was moved from KGO tp WABC in 1968 for going after KGO management
dinfg6 1 year ago
When Tex Antoine was on WNBC at 11,he was absolutely plastered one New Year's Eve,dropping most of the parts of Uncle Weatherbee.
rentslave 1 year ago
Ha! A very young Bill Rice provides the VOC at the end! Awesome!
mastodonfarm 1 year ago
@mastodonfarm - That wasn't Bill Rice, contrary to popular belief; it was veteran staffer Don Dowd, not long before his retirement (he died in 1977).
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Thanks for the correction!
mastodonfarm 1 year ago
this theme song got revamped which sounded beter and more epic
DrSurprise 2 years ago
OMG, how i miss the 4:30 movie!
Used to get home from school, get a snack and do my homework while watching the 4:30 movie. Ah, goodtimes.
PandoraNYC1 2 years ago
Does anybody else have any Clips of Roger Grimsby doing the KGO News in 1965- 1968 before ABC Sent him to WABC tv. I Always wanted to see grimsby as the San Francisco Anchor.
Dook6 2 years ago
"Jennifer jones, tomorrow on the 4:30 Movie."
I just heard that Ms. Jones passed on at age 90.
StukInBuf 2 years ago
heard that too
tapthatt2012 2 years ago
Oh wow! Do I remember this! I was born in '66, and my parents were loyal Eyewitness News viewers. I remember those multiple desks and Roger Grimsley (is that his name?) and Melba Tolliver. I also remember gettting Melba Moore (the singer) and Melba Tolliver confused when I was little. LOL! I always loved this ending theme.
HardyGirl66 2 years ago
While I don't rember this opening or crew(I was born in '73) they did use this music up until the mid-1980s. So dramatic,it just grabs your attion..lol.
scramyou 2 years ago
"This has been a color presentation ... " ... LMAO! How times have changed in only 40 years ... to think color is a given now, and HD is soon to be as well.
EcuaRican386 2 years ago
I wonder if kids today will look back at TV like we are here, and feel the same nostalgia?
jba1995 2 years ago
I remember this . Jeraldo or GEraldo Rivera got his start on this station.
mcwald20 2 years ago
Yes. His first big splash was the Willowbrook (New York state-run mental institution) expose. Maybe '72 or thereabouts.
ChopstickBrando 2 years ago
another great news set!
Deannacall 2 years ago
I always liked this music...good dramatic music....lol...seriously!
SHRINA17 2 years ago
@SHRINA17 You're right, it is really good dramatic music, as you said. In fact, the music that was used as the theme for "Eyewitness News" was originally composed by Lalo Schifrin as music for the film "Cool Hand Luke" starring Paul Newman.
jdlewis007 2 years ago
Lalo Schifrin did the music?? Thanks for that tidbit. I always loved this theme. Some things shouldn't be changed...that was one of them....lol.....all the best to you!
SHRINA17 2 years ago
Someone mentioned this could've been Aug. 18, 1970. Sounds like this would indeed be the case, as someone else put up the opening moments of that night's "ABC Evening News," anchored solo by Howard K. Smith (his then co-anchor, Frank Reynolds, was on vacation), as per:
watch?v=Q_8unq_JwZU
wmbrown6 3 years ago
Tex Antoine {"Uncle Wethbee'} was forced to leave "EYEWITNESS NEWS" in 1976 after his unfortunate on-air aside, "Confucius say, if rape is inevitable, then relax and enjoy it". He was later featured on WNEW-TV's "10 O'CLOCK NEWS" during 1977-'78, then retired from TV. He died in January 1983 of natural causes, 'prausch'.
fromthesidelines 3 years ago
wish you had the open for that. i would be so cool.
jjgato 3 years ago
Miss Paul Newman.
Dook6 3 years ago
I love how they still had to announce it as being "in color."
UncleMikeNJ 3 years ago 2
I think the practice of announcing it "in color" ended around the start of the 1970-71 season.
wmbrown6 3 years ago
Scott was still announcing "in color" from EWN opens till 1975.
and
"This has been a color presentation of WABC-TV News" close ended in late 1976.
nynewsguy7 3 years ago
Is that Tex (rape is inevitable) Antoine on the left?
prausch65 3 years ago
Yup, that's Tex. His rape "joke" pretty much ended his career. He was only 59 when he died in '83. He seemed a lot older back then!
nycretroguy 3 years ago
I wonder where Uncle Weather Bee is these days?
prausch65 3 years ago
And I think the guy to Tex's left (and Bill Aylward's right) around 0:14 is sports anchor Lou Boda.
wmbrown6 3 years ago
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@wmbrown6 "And I think the guy to Tex's left (and Bill Aylward's right) around 0:14 is sports anchor Lou Boda."
Yes, and Boda was replaced in the Fall by none other that Jim Bouton. Howard Cosell did the 6 PM sports segment.
MegaObserver1 1 year ago
@nycretroguy I REMEBER MY MOM TELLING HE WAS SMILING. HE SAID JUST LAY THERE AND ENJOY....
DUNGEONMASTERSEXPO 10 months ago
Thanks, Retro... Messrs. Jensen and Dunn will be missed.
StukInBuf 3 years ago
NYCRetroGuy... I haven't heard the name Tom Dunn in years. I recall he reported on Channel 9 in the mid-80s, before Roland Smith came along in 1988 or so. Somewhere else in YouTube, Mr. Smith is shown reporting on Channel 2 with Jim Jensen. Whatever became of these guys?
StukInBuf 3 years ago
CBS legend Jim Jensen passed away in 1999 from a heart attack. Tom Dunn died from esophageal cancer in 2006. As far as Rolland Smith; he retired from TV news in 2006, and is a published poet, and a popular public speaker and independent producer.
nycretroguy 3 years ago
And who was Roland Smith's co-anchor? Dave Maresh? His 1st name was Dave, not sure of his last name, but he had a beard.
bayonnebridge 3 years ago
The spelling of Rolland Smith's co-anchor (1973-78, 1981-82) was Dave Marash. Mr. Smith had other co-anchors on the 11 P.M. newscasts, namely Vic Miles (1978-79) and Michele Marsh (1979-81, 1982-86).
wmbrown6 3 years ago
No, it was Dave Marash. He has the distinction of being the first American news anchor on Al-Jazeera TV.
paktype 3 years ago
@nycretroguy did jim jensen play football 4 miami
darrylhaynes 6 months ago
Speaking of the "'swirling 7' I.D.," The last time I saw this was, in all places, Chicago, as my family and I were en route moving from NYC to upper Minnesota in late '75. There were also the "half moon, left curved triangle, and right football" ID, and the Channel 7 emblem opened in clockwise full circle way in the background, then suddenly coming right at the screen. I missed those in 1977, when they went to that shadow from the right, starting with KGO in SanFran.
StukInBuf 3 years ago
If August of '70 is the case, that puts my mom at about a touch over 4 months with me, and I'd be born about 4 months thereafter, albeit a tad prematurely at that.
StukInBuf 3 years ago
Just saw the film Cool Hand Luke and was surprised to hear this theme as part of the soundtrack,didn't realize that's where Eyewitness news got it from.
plectrum34 3 years ago
From what I've seen of the history of "The 4:30 Movie," it's probably one of the greatest ironies that "Cool Hand Luke" apparently never ran on WABC. (I did, however, see it on rival WPIX over a decade ago.)
wmbrown6 3 years ago
This is making me cry! I grew up on ABC7!
Zickcermacity 3 years ago
You and millions of others. They had the entire tri-state area in their hands. Both tv & radio. It is really sad it is all history. Radio & TV are not the same and will never be like this again.
patrickguice 3 years ago
Bill Aylward left WABC around late 1972/early 1973, and anchored a 10:30 P.M. newscast for a short time at WPIX which followed the 10 P.M. news anchored by the late Joe Harper (ex of future New York TV news legend Pat Harper).
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Thanks for mentioning Pat Harper. Indeed, she was a legend in New York! Emmy Award winner, wonderful sense of humor, and a great anchor and reporter. She is truly missed.
nycretroguy 4 years ago
Mr. Aylward, a few years later, joined WRC-TV in Washington, DC as a reporter.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
@nycretroguy Pat died back in May 1994.
jhshifris1 9 months ago
i never knew that
psu68born 7 months ago
Who was the weatherman on this video? tex?
bbad4all 4 years ago
Indeed that's Tex Antoine. Tex, Tom Dunn and Bill Alyward were all original members of the Channel 7 "Eyewitness News Team". Also, not sure about Lou Boda. In the early years of Eyewitness News, my recollection is that they had a lot of different guys doing sports!
nycretroguy 4 years ago
In the very early years of "EWN," the sports was done by Mr. Boda and future legend Howard Cosell. And it certainly wasn't Mr. Cosell on this clip.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
And I could be mistaken, but wasn't the sportscaster on this occasion Lou Boda?
wmbrown6 4 years ago
I'd been advised that the original air date of this particular edition may've been Aug. 12, 1970 - a Sunday. The anchors here were Tom Dunn and Bill Aylward. As to who voiced the promo/I.D., I'm not sure but it sounds like it could be veteran staffer Don Dowd. And in those days, Ch. 7's late-night movie umbrella was called "The Movie Matinee."
wmbrown6 4 years ago
My bad - the Sunday was Aug. 16, 1970, which date I'd been advised this would've been. Aug. 12 was Wednesday. In any event, this was before Bill Beutel was first paired with Roger Grimsby.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
Incidentally, I've been apprised that the voice heard on the "swirling 7" I.D. promo'ing "The 4:30 Movie" was indeed Don Dowd.
wmbrown6 4 years ago
I miss the "swirling circle 7"... They did it that way, and a few others as well, on WLS in Chicago... Another ABC O&O thing, I suppose. Would love to see those on here.
oakandwillow 3 years ago
This must have been either Tuesday August 18th or Wednesday August 19th, 1970, because the end of the clip plugs Jennifer Jones on 'The 4:30 Movie' the following day. The '4:30 Movie' for Wednesday the 19th was Part One of the Jennifer Jones movie 'Tender Is The Night' with Part Two the following day.
RSG2006 3 years ago
Hmmm. Sounds about right, given the "tonight at 11" reference. I presume in that case Bill Aylward subbed for Roger Grimsby.
wmbrown6 3 years ago
Did "A Hard Day's Night" follow on The Late Movie, or was it a weeknight 'cast followed by The Dick Cavett Show? Who was Dick's guests...?
noahf67 4 years ago
@noahf67 - Check the Aug. 18, 1970 New York Times (or TV Guide listings designated for that day) to see which film aired on that late evening's "Best of Broadway" for the answer. ("TBoB" last ran on Sept. 30, 1970; replaced effective Oct. 1 by "The One O'Clock Movie" on weeknights and "Saturday / Sunday Night Movie" on weekends.)
wmbrown6 1 year ago
@wmbrown6 Wow! Frightening accuracy...thanks! Now I've got to research this.
noahf67 1 year ago
Never thought I'd see and hear that again! Thank you!
solarvegan 4 years ago