«Великое безмолвие» («Into Great Silence»), 2005.

[SkythMassaghet]

Mönche sind ein Grund unsere verdorbene Menschheit weiter hin existieren zu lassen.

[MrViobattie]

I like the part where all the monks slide down the hill.

[foxy33100]

Es braucht keine Worte, so wie sie sind, die "Weissen Mönche" um das Leben des Ordens im Stammkloster Grand Chartreuse in diesem Film zu betrachten. Schön, dass ermöglicht wurde, dass jeder sich selbst ein Bild davon machen kann.

[10WiseVirgins]

Thay are Vatican II Novus Ordo heretics.They are no longer Orthodox Catholcs. It is all for show.

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins the SSPX are the Heretics. All Modernism that you condemn is simply a misinterpritation of what the council was calling for. Get up to date on your vatican history and read the Moto Proprio Summorum pontificum and other ecclesial documents about the Liturgy

[10WiseVirgins]

@cheesemonkey1990 Go behind me, Satan, all is TOLD infalibly in Trent Council, and if you contrudict it, you belong to hell.

Vatican II is a DEMONIC SECT, and you serve the hell. REPENT!

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins look into the scriptures and your history there is nothing satanic about What VII called for, only what certain bishops wanted it to mean. Very often hatred and biggotry are spawned by ignorance. You are no acception. Pope Benedict XVI wrote a document explicitly calling for the promulgation of the Tridentine Mass of 1962 AND approved just 4 weeks ago a new translation of the Novus Ordo Mass that in about 99 precent of the cases are DIRECT translations of the 1962 Mass.

[10WiseVirgins]

@cheesemonkey1990 Are you an idiot? or you pretend to be one? where is 42 psalm? where are the benedictions, where is the last Gospel in your so-called 'promulgation' of Tridentine Mass...Listen, I have no time for idiots. I told you 3 times and more...Your blood is on your retarded head...bye

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins I said TRANSLATIONS, not the particulars to the Tridentine Mass. I ask you a simple question, what makes a liturgy (ie: public work) a Mass and not anything else? Answer me that and we'll go from there.

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins tell me, what are the necessary requirements for a sacrament to be valid?

[10WiseVirgins]

@cheesemonkey1990 It has to be canonical, meaning the ordination rite of the bishops and priests should be an apostolic lineage with unchanged mysteries . The same way , Mass canon can not be altered , or the anathema of St.Pius V is applicable!

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins 1) all Catholic priests and bishops are of Apostolic lineage.

2) According to St. Thomas Aquinas, there are 4 requirements for a valid sacrament, a validly ordained minister of Apostolic lineage, as you said, from, matter and intent. Form in this case are the words spoken expressing a particular inward grace present in the sacrament, matter is the appropriate substance used to express the outward sign of the sacrament and intent is the intention of the minister to bestow the ctd

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins ctd graces proper to the sacrament. Both the Extraordinay (tridentine) Mass and the ordinary (Novus Ordo) have these 4 things. All Catholic priests are of apostolic lineage, the words of institution as given by Christ are present (St. Thomas argues that the transubstantiation takes place at the words this is my body, this is my blood) the flour based bread and pure grape based wine are present and the intention of making Christ present body blood, soul and divinity is also present

[10WiseVirgins]

@cheesemonkey1990 WRONG! I already told you. jp2 changed the bishop ordination Rite, Mass canon- IT IS INVALID, as Anglican ordinations according to Pope Leo XIII- Pius XII. Novus ORDO is NOT APOSTALIC

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins yes it is, according to the common doctor of the Church, the Novus Ordo mass has all the ncessary components, the ordinations still have appropriate form matter and intent today, as they did in the 60's. The language in which the sacraments are done is a diciplinary matter, not dogmatic one, so language is not a barrier to valid sacraments.

[10WiseVirgins]

@cheesemonkey1990 It is a LIE. bye. you are protestant heretics

[cheesemonkey1990]

@10WiseVirgins The word Catholic was first used by St. Ignatus of Antioch in A.D. 110. He was a disciple of St. John the evangelist. Also: even the SSPX believe what St. thomas Aquinas taught.

[FOROJMJ]

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