According to Jeff Russell's Starships site, the Whitestars are actually about the size of Excelsior-class Starships on Star Trek, so they're not all that small according to that comparison.
Love the Whitestar it's a great little ship, small but it packs one hell of a punch and is a tough as hell, it's second only to Andromda in being my favouitr and in terms of powerful ships
B5 was an Eathforce Station but the White Stars were part of the effort to stop the Shadows. They were not apart of B5 but since it was a command post in that effort they often are seen with and protecting it. Later the fleet is part of the Stellar Federation based on Minbar. Nice video.
@LionlordEbonfire You forgot to mention that part of the reason why Babylon 5 is being guarded by the White Stars is that Babylon 5 was given to the IA sometime between the end of season 5 and before the end of Sleeping in Light (20 odd year time difference) until the IA handed it back to the EA a few years before Sheridan died.
Those White Stars can kick holy butt against Earthforce ships, but they would stand no chance against Shadows in force. Without the full force of Vorlons and the other First Ones, they would have lost the battle of Corianna VI. The Shadows had a galactic empire a MILLION years ago. Think about that. We're bugs compared to them.
@sunnchilde umm...i know this is 8 months old but did you know that the vorlons wasn't on the human/alien's side at corianna VI, they went on their own to defeat the shadow's influence after sheridan supposive death at zha'dum!
@Deadganon You're right. I did not mean to imply otherwise. But with the Vorlons there, the Shadows could not concentrate their forces against the White Star Fleet.
@sunnchilde But the vorlons turned their attacks against the white star fleet, so they had the shadows AND the vorlons against them, thats even worse then just the shadow fleet against them!
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Claudia Christian is definably no little girl, i saw her naked many years ago after Babylon 5 ended.
I think is was play boy i would'nt mind having a wrestling match with her but saying god sent her well i think she been eating to many steroid filled burgers or her surname is getting to her
I don't think so - even I don't know it for sure - I am pretty convinced that Tarja Turunen as an opera singer - hasn't produced a instrumental - because her voice used to be the intrument. So sorry for that.
=) ah...no. This video is made for one of the most beautiful woman commanding one of the most beautiful ships in space and she is doing it with that death bringing accuracy.......rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Thanks for your comment!
I know that, I've been a Babylon 5 fan since its first airing in Australia. I was only commenting on her character and how passionate she can be for her cause
Class, good roller. Ivanova it is shown as qualified ordering, resolute and unshakable. With pleasure again looked at the favourite heroine of a serial. I like Your rollers. Thanks that you allow to look another the work. It is interesting.
Talia Winter was Ivanova's lover. She never gave Marcus a second look because she gave her heart to Talia. She was motivated to destroy rigorous organizations bent on lying (PSI-Corps) because of Talia's destruction.
Were it not for Talia falling on the same path Susan's mother died upon, she never would have had the same resolve. Susan "rose from the grave" of her mother, and her beloved Talia to expose lies. She's a telepath, too, remember.
Were it not for Talia, and Talia's destruction, Marcus would have had a chance, but Susan made love with Talia. That revealed she is a telepath. She was fairly emotionally mangled due to Talia also being mangled by Bester.
JMS is horrible at managing people and is swayed by a gum wrapper. We never got to see anything of Andrea Thompsons Talia Winter when she was forced to quit the show because she was "wanting to make it the Talia Winter's show" by asking for a prop change) upon her departure
I personally loved the storyline of susan and talia. And I have to admit that I was very interested in the development of it. And the development of talia. The Talia Winters we knew til the 2. seas. seemed to be weak, but I am sure there was a great potential in this character. And with Andrea Thompson a good actress to bring out the best. But therefore you need time - and time wasn't exactly on JMS side.
And that Marcus had no chance just because Susan made love to Talia - well I doubt that. Marcus had a chance - and Susan did love him. But she was afraid of being hurt and left again ... that's all. That's why she wanted the friendship with him...so it was sure - he would never ever leaves her or hurts her...it sounds strange but it makes sense in her world...
Marcus as a character was a cool and funny one- I enjoyed his appearances in the show - but never really saw him Sue's lover ...
I love Ivanova. She made an awesome #2. I don't know if I'd want to serve under her, though. You either would be killed in action or horse whipped under her command. : P I loved how she yelled at the Starfury pilots that she was as fearsome as the Shadow ship. The tragedy story of her and Marcus too, the love that never happened until it was too late. Plus Talia. Ivanova's a complex, bisexual woman with career before herself. Her character was more subtle and involved than many on the show.
As much as Sheridan became the main hero, Ivanova was the one that really made a lot happen, both on Babylon 5 and in the battles. Especially for Earth. And I liked how she insisted on Sheridan be on an Earth ship when retaking Earth. She was loyal to the Nth degree. I wish we could have seen her in season 5, especially on the Warlock class she commanded. How fitting she'd become a general and end up overseeing the Rangers, since Marcus so readily followed her in his heart.
I agree, Susan was a great complex character and Claudia Christian did a great job portraying her. But I think Susan would be never get this far without help of her friend John Sheridan. Sure it was a kind of funny for the audience to see her acting like that, making jokes, saying things and treating people like that, but to be true ... with that temper and behavior she wouldn't come that far in the military. Nevertheless I love her too! Thanks for the comment!
Actually, in the story she got to where she was without a patron, at least according to the conversation between her and Mr. Welles from Nightwatch in "The Fall Of Night."
Very, very nice ... incredibly intense video. Your editing is awesome and I was completely blown away (no pun intended ;) ) by how well you've interwoven the song and the images. Great job.
Wonderful. I love the song choice.
Cassadinegirlaz 2 months ago
@Cassadinegirlaz Thx.
NexPathos 1 month ago
Title is wrong, it should be Babylon 5 God and the White Star Fleet
Krellnus 6 months ago
"I thought you said they looked like plucked chickens?"
TechnoMageB5 6 months ago
Wonderful choice of music. I would never have thought to use that in a video like this but now that I've seen this, it seems so obvious.
Dimitris8972 9 months ago
White stars were part shadow tech, a means to an end, to free Earth.
zero0zero99 9 months ago
@zero0zero99 UH NO! They were part Vorlon tech. Obviously someone needs to go back and watch the series again.
Fbueller129 7 months ago
Perfect song choice for the clip ..... thumbs up uploader :D
midgard83 11 months ago
This song is a perfect fit for Ivanova. Awesome vid
mageman310784 11 months ago 4
According to Jeff Russell's Starships site, the Whitestars are actually about the size of Excelsior-class Starships on Star Trek, so they're not all that small according to that comparison.
Jalfmar3 1 year ago
Love the Whitestar it's a great little ship, small but it packs one hell of a punch and is a tough as hell, it's second only to Andromda in being my favouitr and in terms of powerful ships
Lightingwarrior 1 year ago
and the song made me turn it off b4 i wanted to why would you ruin this with that shit
ox0Jason0xo 1 year ago
Fantastic combination of Music and video for Commander Ivonova.
Love both!
truellaksala 1 year ago
This is excellent. Very well done.
hktenn 1 year ago
sorry i got my ships mixed up, its the victory im looking for
SupremeCommanderO1 1 year ago
why cant i find a whitestar vid without fucking music and a montage?
SupremeCommanderO1 1 year ago
These were awesome little ships. Great video.
Scioneer 1 year ago 3
@Scioneer Thanks. =))
NexPathos 1 year ago
@Scioneer, I love how the Security Chief Caribaldy alled Chicken Wings the first time he saw one.
Wolfen443 1 year ago
B5 was an Eathforce Station but the White Stars were part of the effort to stop the Shadows. They were not apart of B5 but since it was a command post in that effort they often are seen with and protecting it. Later the fleet is part of the Stellar Federation based on Minbar. Nice video.
LionlordEbonfire 1 year ago 4
@LionlordEbonfire Thanks...was a great show...and White Stars were amazing ships...
NexPathos 1 year ago 3
@LionlordEbonfire You forgot to mention that part of the reason why Babylon 5 is being guarded by the White Stars is that Babylon 5 was given to the IA sometime between the end of season 5 and before the end of Sleeping in Light (20 odd year time difference) until the IA handed it back to the EA a few years before Sheridan died.
Varrenify 11 months ago
How come Babylon V had White Star ships and Earth didn't? I thought Babylon V was under Earth jurisdiction?
JeremyFuhenstasser 1 year ago
They built them behind Earth's backs pecifically because they suspected shadow influence over Earth gov.
CaptainTr1pps 1 year ago
@CaptainTr1pps
Nevermind. The White Star fleet was not part of Babylon 5's forces. They were Rangers I believe.
JeremyFuhenstasser 1 year ago
Those White Stars can kick holy butt against Earthforce ships, but they would stand no chance against Shadows in force. Without the full force of Vorlons and the other First Ones, they would have lost the battle of Corianna VI. The Shadows had a galactic empire a MILLION years ago. Think about that. We're bugs compared to them.
sunnchilde 2 years ago
@sunnchilde umm...i know this is 8 months old but did you know that the vorlons wasn't on the human/alien's side at corianna VI, they went on their own to defeat the shadow's influence after sheridan supposive death at zha'dum!
Deadganon 1 year ago
@Deadganon You're right. I did not mean to imply otherwise. But with the Vorlons there, the Shadows could not concentrate their forces against the White Star Fleet.
sunnchilde 1 year ago
@sunnchilde But the vorlons turned their attacks against the white star fleet, so they had the shadows AND the vorlons against them, thats even worse then just the shadow fleet against them!
Deadganon 1 year ago
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Claudia Christian is definably no little girl, i saw her naked many years ago after Babylon 5 ended.
I think is was play boy i would'nt mind having a wrestling match with her but saying god sent her well i think she been eating to many steroid filled burgers or her surname is getting to her
womblefree 2 years ago
Dude, she was reading a line from someone else's script.
williamskidfears 2 years ago
Yes i know but she says it with gusto
womblefree 2 years ago
Tarja was a lot better when she was on Nightwish, still the song fits. Good job ;)
Soldierlozer 2 years ago 6
I like the song very much as well!
In addition, it does go extremely well with Babylon 5, in general. As some parts like these clips it really does!
karkkosvolfe 2 years ago 2
Thx - glad you like it!
NexPathos 2 years ago
The Minbari Whitestar is my all time favorite star ship in Babylon 5 and in Sci Fi in general. Excelent Vid.
JohnBachofer 2 years ago 8
I really like the clips you used, and the song.
<3 B5!
TheKestryl 2 years ago 2
very enjoyable video, thanks!
PieniPeippo 2 years ago 3
Thank you as well ...
NexPathos 2 years ago
just wondering if an *instrumental* version of this song exists...
connyx 2 years ago
I don't think so - even I don't know it for sure - I am pretty convinced that Tarja Turunen as an opera singer - hasn't produced a instrumental - because her voice used to be the intrument. So sorry for that.
NexPathos 2 years ago
she is bulgarian
dranobg 2 years ago
Haha! That's a good one. But I am sorry,it's mentioned and she is saying it herself more then one time - that she belongs to the russian consortium.
NexPathos 2 years ago
Born and raised in Saint Petersburg, according to her backstory.
williamskidfears 2 years ago
Ivanova is so hot
BlastEMFF 2 years ago
Yes! Great job, Ivanova and DeLenn are my two all-time favorite characters on the show.
williamskidfears 2 years ago
Thanks, a lot! Loved the show too.
NexPathos 2 years ago
I guess it goews to show: Never piss of a Russian.
gribae 2 years ago
=) ah...no. This video is made for one of the most beautiful woman commanding one of the most beautiful ships in space and she is doing it with that death bringing accuracy.......rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Thanks for your comment!
NexPathos 2 years ago
I know that, I've been a Babylon 5 fan since its first airing in Australia. I was only commenting on her character and how passionate she can be for her cause
gribae 2 years ago
Oh - I see! =)))) ;)
NexPathos 2 years ago
No, it goes to show: never piss off Ivanova. :) Awesome vid.
alexrousseau815 2 years ago
=) Thanks!
NexPathos 2 years ago
Trust Ivanova, trust yourself. Anyone else, you shoot.
williamskidfears 2 years ago
Exactly. :)
alexrousseau815 2 years ago
Weellll. I´m being partial here, so its B5. And that incredible voice, sooo... Nice editing, of course. And 5 Stars too.
bocataz 3 years ago 2
Oh, well, thanks!!! =)
NexPathos 3 years ago
:)
das ist alles was ich dazu sag/schreib
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:)
that's all i say/write
connyx 3 years ago
na da sagste was ^^
NexPathos 3 years ago
what is the name of the trackas i love the vidoe Ivanova was amazing
Ericmyersgirl 3 years ago
The tracks name is "my little phoenix" by Tarja Turunen. Look in the description ...thanks for the kudo^^
NexPathos 3 years ago
excelent vid mate... first class... ivanova really is god :-)
skeentv 3 years ago
thanks ^^....yeah...Ivanova is God!!! =D
NexPathos 3 years ago
Class, good roller. Ivanova it is shown as qualified ordering, resolute and unshakable. With pleasure again looked at the favourite heroine of a serial. I like Your rollers. Thanks that you allow to look another the work. It is interesting.
NaTill1 3 years ago 2
ivanova was strong, what happened to the ranger gezzer?
VideoFreakerz 3 years ago
he died. for her! he gave his life, that she could live, because he loved her more than his own life. and at the end - she was alone again.
NexPathos 3 years ago
Ah yeah I remember now, the life giver thing. That was sad even though I didn't like him that much, funny :)
VideoFreakerz 3 years ago
Talia Winter was Ivanova's lover. She never gave Marcus a second look because she gave her heart to Talia. She was motivated to destroy rigorous organizations bent on lying (PSI-Corps) because of Talia's destruction.
Were it not for Talia falling on the same path Susan's mother died upon, she never would have had the same resolve. Susan "rose from the grave" of her mother, and her beloved Talia to expose lies. She's a telepath, too, remember.
AerowsX 3 years ago
Were it not for Talia, and Talia's destruction, Marcus would have had a chance, but Susan made love with Talia. That revealed she is a telepath. She was fairly emotionally mangled due to Talia also being mangled by Bester.
JMS is horrible at managing people and is swayed by a gum wrapper. We never got to see anything of Andrea Thompsons Talia Winter when she was forced to quit the show because she was "wanting to make it the Talia Winter's show" by asking for a prop change) upon her departure
AerowsX 3 years ago
I personally loved the storyline of susan and talia. And I have to admit that I was very interested in the development of it. And the development of talia. The Talia Winters we knew til the 2. seas. seemed to be weak, but I am sure there was a great potential in this character. And with Andrea Thompson a good actress to bring out the best. But therefore you need time - and time wasn't exactly on JMS side.
NexPathos 3 years ago
And that Marcus had no chance just because Susan made love to Talia - well I doubt that. Marcus had a chance - and Susan did love him. But she was afraid of being hurt and left again ... that's all. That's why she wanted the friendship with him...so it was sure - he would never ever leaves her or hurts her...it sounds strange but it makes sense in her world...
Marcus as a character was a cool and funny one- I enjoyed his appearances in the show - but never really saw him Sue's lover ...
NexPathos 3 years ago
nice and poetic :)
MrRotweiler 3 years ago
Phenomenal Vid! You portrayed Ivanova wonderfully!
houseofsavoy2000 3 years ago
Thanks, I am glad you like it!
NexPathos 3 years ago
I love Ivanova. She made an awesome #2. I don't know if I'd want to serve under her, though. You either would be killed in action or horse whipped under her command. : P I loved how she yelled at the Starfury pilots that she was as fearsome as the Shadow ship. The tragedy story of her and Marcus too, the love that never happened until it was too late. Plus Talia. Ivanova's a complex, bisexual woman with career before herself. Her character was more subtle and involved than many on the show.
pyrosaber78 3 years ago 2
As much as Sheridan became the main hero, Ivanova was the one that really made a lot happen, both on Babylon 5 and in the battles. Especially for Earth. And I liked how she insisted on Sheridan be on an Earth ship when retaking Earth. She was loyal to the Nth degree. I wish we could have seen her in season 5, especially on the Warlock class she commanded. How fitting she'd become a general and end up overseeing the Rangers, since Marcus so readily followed her in his heart.
pyrosaber78 3 years ago
I agree, Susan was a great complex character and Claudia Christian did a great job portraying her. But I think Susan would be never get this far without help of her friend John Sheridan. Sure it was a kind of funny for the audience to see her acting like that, making jokes, saying things and treating people like that, but to be true ... with that temper and behavior she wouldn't come that far in the military. Nevertheless I love her too! Thanks for the comment!
NexPathos 3 years ago
Actually, in the story she got to where she was without a patron, at least according to the conversation between her and Mr. Welles from Nightwatch in "The Fall Of Night."
williamskidfears 2 years ago
Career and her friends before herself, as "The Fall Of Night," demonstrates.
williamskidfears 2 years ago
Very, very nice ... incredibly intense video. Your editing is awesome and I was completely blown away (no pun intended ;) ) by how well you've interwoven the song and the images. Great job.
iJulia81 3 years ago 2
*bow* thank you very much! I am glad you like it!
NexPathos 3 years ago
AWESOME!
10Sheridan01 3 years ago
thanks!!! =)
NexPathos 3 years ago
Awesome video..added to faves:}
Whoever designed the White Star for B5 series should've be given a design award of some sort.That ship is pure class!!
SpacialKatana 3 years ago
Thank you! ^^ I agree with you .... the White Stars are beautiful ships! Haven't seen a nicer ship in TV - Space yet!
NexPathos 3 years ago
Hello I am sorry i have missed this. The music is wonderful..... wonderful GO TARJA!!! Your editing is exxxxxxxcellent:)
rantamaki 3 years ago
Thank you soooo much!!! *beam* Yes I love Tarjas Album and this song fits so perfectly for the White Stars!!!! Keep rocking rantamaki!!!!
NexPathos 3 years ago