heheheh! a secret may be told about what i know about brawl and nintendo....so....In the alpha AND beta....they had smithy's original theme and a stage in the game....hehe....nintendo is going to get me for telling you OUR secret....and they scraped that idea because they thought NO one knew about the game known as Super mario RPG.....
Smithy used dark star! Dark star transformed into dark bowser! Dark bowser: now I will destroy every thing, and only I will rule!. Smithy: HEY! I was here first!. Bowser: umm actually, I was... Mario: no one-a cares bowsah.
@HolyVegeta dude I could totally see that, his final smash could be the giant mallet thing that falls from the sky and attacks the whole area. would be an amazing character.
the lowest level I ever beat him at was either 16 or 19. That was really really hard, otherwise I've beaten him and Culex. Culex is easy with geno and the scarf you get from jynx or whoever it is in Monstro Town. none of Culex's attacks do anything more than 1 or 0 damage, so you can take your sweet time destroying him. This song sure does pown by the way!
Really? I'd usually get into the factory with an average party level (including inactive members) of around 23. Then I'd just level-grind with the falling Yaridovich copies until I get them all up to maximum level (30). After that, I make sure they're all equipped with the best weapons, armor, and accessories I can get for them, go in, and kick Smithy's metal arse.
this song kicks much ass! but yeah, for the speed run, your level ain't gonna be high when you get to him. Outside of that, I'm in the same boat as you.
yeah, but I can't seem to get all those damn frog coins! the hardest one in my opinion is the one in mushroom kingdom that you can only get if you jump off of toads head and onto the first doorway he goes through on the way to the kings domain.
Man this song gives me chills, Smithy was a major pain int he ass to beat. In his First Forme. I only killed him once when I was 4 in his second forme.
it would but he cant be in it or the song just like geno because square enix helped make smrpg so nintendo has to pay them like they did with snake. so its either snake or smrpg =/
Unfortunately, since squaresoft (now known as squarenix) owns the game, Nintendo can't do that.
But maybe since the demand for Geno in Brawl is so high, they could reason with squarenix to get him in (along with Smithy and friends as bosses for story mode, perhaps) the next smash bros. game.
As awesome as that would be, I doubt he would be more than an Assist Trophy. He didn't even get a sticker in Brawl. Too bad, though. Mario RPG had some of my favourite characters.
Square has already licensed Geno for a Nintendo game before. He had a small cameo in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga. It doesn't seem unreasonable that they would do it again.
Also, there was an unused remake of the forest maze music on the Brawl disk, so we know the developers are on board with the idea.
Actually, it's quite puzzling why this hasn't already happened yet.
geno was never added in because they coulden't embody his epicness, why else?
I'm kidding of course, because they know that they made him for combat games, he has a smash already (whirl(OMG OVER 9000!!!)) and is the hawtest char ever. But they prolly were too lazy to ask permission.
Might have been for the same reason as Ridley wasn't playable: Sakurai just never even thought about it. Considering that Ridley was #2 on the vote list of who people wanted playable in Brawl (King Dedede was #1, Meta Knight, someone else and Geno were also in the top 5), it was really stupid on his part.
But hey, this is the same guy who thought making unique and possible-playable characters like Saki, Little Mac, Ray mkIII and Gray Fox into Assist Trophies.
Little thing I find funny. Golden sun, although an excellent game, is not the most popular out there, yet it had both a track and an assist trophy(Isaac), and SMRPG didn't even have a sticker, though it is much more popular.
All in all, I think that nintendo and square should have stayed together. Although we probably woulden't have kingdom hearts(being that nintendo hates to spend money like Square did on disney rights) if they stayed as the same company, many games would have been better.
I knew about geno's cameo in superstar saga (I own that game and have played through it) but I didn't know about the remixed forest maze music; that's awesome!
But yeah, it is very strange that he hasn't appeared anywhere else. And for the record, I vote for his final smash being geno blast, where he turns into a civil war-era cannon and fires a huge energy sphere at the enemy.
The Forest Maze remix wasn't found on the Brawl disc, that is an ugly rumor. It was made to fit the style of Brawl remixes, and was released saying so. If the theme was found on the Brawl disc, then that would make no sense because Nintendo would of payed for the rights to the song without paying for the rights to Geno as well :\
Think about it, why would Nintendo spend money for the rights of a SMRPG song without buying the rights to a character as well? Nintendo isn't known to waste money, and they would have included the song in the Brawl soundtrack if they bought rights to it.
Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean that it's impossible. A lot of time and money goes into content that doesn't make it into the final game. That's just the nature of game design.
Look, the track wasn't in the game, it wasn't on the disk, that's it, nothing more. Nintendo already stated that they were only putting Sonic (Characters, Music, Stages.) and Snake (Characters, Music, Stages.) in Brawl, those were the only third party rights they purchased, Sega and Konami, and that's only because they asked for their characters to be in Brawl. If Nintendo did put the song on the disk, they would have violated copyright laws and would likely have been sued by Square Enix.
you know....I'm 19. I've played this game literally 100 times and have uncovered every secret and even did restriction challenges....and of all the times I've played this i have NEVER noticed that Smithys arms were chains o.0 I don't look at fan art but seeing this i was like "wait, what? since when are his arms chains?
Epic Feel
SuperMetaKnight100 2 weeks ago
crap. you don't remix a final boss song to sound happy you make it intimidating
TheClownRaper 2 months ago
@princessZelda089 scraped and trashed...though they tried to hide the geno forest music for that game...
luigifan586 5 months ago
@luigifan586 Its somewhere there. Too bad I don't have the game. :(
ppeach404 2 months ago
This is damn easy to dance to n_n
MegaGlaceon 6 months ago
@ xade76 AM I? i hold secrets nintendo hides........they must not know that this secret was told....
luigifan586 6 months ago
It looks like Smithy's rocking it out at a club
RayeliB 6 months ago
AWESOME!
zeekyblahIV 6 months ago
heheheh! a secret may be told about what i know about brawl and nintendo....so....In the alpha AND beta....they had smithy's original theme and a stage in the game....hehe....nintendo is going to get me for telling you OUR secret....and they scraped that idea because they thought NO one knew about the game known as Super mario RPG.....
luigifan586 7 months ago
@luigifan586
You are a very funny guy.
xade76 6 months ago
@luigifan586
Wasn't Geno's forest trashed?
princessZelda089 6 months ago
Your music is so cool! It's one of my favorites.
eviloverlady7 9 months ago
Smithy used dark star! Dark star transformed into dark bowser! Dark bowser: now I will destroy every thing, and only I will rule!. Smithy: HEY! I was here first!. Bowser: umm actually, I was... Mario: no one-a cares bowsah.
ultimatedragon356 11 months ago
I have an awesome idea! get ALL mario bosses! one game! remixes in! you can select the orig song or a remix! awesome huh!
kingman3355 11 months ago
@kingman3355 AWWWWWEEESOOOOOOMMMME!
ultimatedragon356 11 months ago
oh and one more thing.......THIS REMIX ROCKS!!!
blueblade578 1 year ago
i never know that smithy is a box ;)
Airrivalsgamer 1 year ago
ah good ol' smithy!!!!!!!
TheMarxSoul101 1 year ago
ITS AN EVIL SANTA!! XD
toongirl007 1 year ago
YOU CANNOT GRASP THE TURE POWERS OF SMITHY!
SNESosT 1 year ago
perfect for the final battle...
NibblesAndCasino 1 year ago
@NibblesAndCasino yes is really good
MrJuanchoPantera 1 year ago
Amazing remix.:shock:
Boywhoflies 1 year ago
If Smithy is a machine that makes machines... then who made Smithy? D:
coolkyle342 1 year ago
@coolkyle342 Chuck Norris....
sassafras741 1 year ago
@coolkyle342 That should be what the second Super Mario RPG should be about...
The man who created Smithy...
GTSRyan 1 year ago
santa sends his evil twin into your house if your not good
zatchparker 1 year ago
IT IS MATEL SANTA!
doomsday5556 1 year ago
this game is impossibly hard
metroidfannumber1 1 year ago
Evil santa claus!! <3
ShabobaX 1 year ago
@ShabobaX XD
toongirl007 1 year ago
@ShabobaX LOL! so true! XD
toongirl007 1 year ago
@ShabobaX I dunno. He looks more like a mechanical Zeus to me.
Falcovsleon21 1 year ago
I dont know how to favorite since the new youtube came out
someone wanna let me know?
turtleshellshocker 1 year ago
@turtleshellshocker Simple click on save to. You will find it in there.
Whammy8685 1 year ago
0:31-0:52 Favorite part in the whole remix.
Whammy8685 1 year ago
epic BP
sonicar364 1 year ago
There needs to be more fanart of this guy!
gocrazed1 1 year ago
yes i agree put smithy in the next smash bros game,
bpwdblue4 1 year ago
Good lord this is giving me chills
poodude900 1 year ago
I like how pretty much nearly every boss is a new enemy and will never appear in another mario game. Ever! They just dropped them all, even Geno!
BlaizeTheDragon 1 year ago
Is one of the hardest bosses in mario games (is the best boss!)
oOMRCafshOo 1 year ago
This song would go pretty well in a club. I could easily dance to it.
Put Smithy in Brawl !!
HolyVegeta 2 years ago 30
@HolyVegeta dude I could totally see that, his final smash could be the giant mallet thing that falls from the sky and attacks the whole area. would be an amazing character.
Blinx360 1 year ago 4
@HolyVegeta meh.
thewewguy8t88 1 year ago
@HolyVegeta i wish.but he probobly never will be.=(
blueblade578 1 year ago
@HolyVegeta They cant because Brawl was realeased 3 years ago!
NintendoEpic 9 months ago
@NintendoEpic
I know, I meant that they should have had him in Brawl.
HolyVegeta 9 months ago
@HolyVegeta Oh.......
NintendoEpic 9 months ago
@NintendoEpic i also thing hes owned by square along with all the other non nintendo characters. (geno mallow etc.)
video166 8 months ago
tis song pwns they need to bring smithy back in futur mario games
this is my fight song
dukenukem25 2 years ago 4
Now if only they'd remake the game for the DS. xD
Everything would be perfect. >:3
Deitiy666 2 years ago 2
i would get it instantly id run if i had to
tommm50able 2 years ago
seconded
kynaro 2 years ago
cool
Bowser5434 2 years ago
GREAT JOB!!!
zatchparker 2 years ago
yes, I'm definitely feeling this!! Awesome!
DamienZshadow 2 years ago
best final boss remix... EVER!!
Staggger 2 years ago 16
So true.
BlueFire4101 2 years ago
Where can I pick up this awesome remix? I gotta know, because I loved this game as a kid (and still do!)
jerkface42 2 years ago
the lowest level I ever beat him at was either 16 or 19. That was really really hard, otherwise I've beaten him and Culex. Culex is easy with geno and the scarf you get from jynx or whoever it is in Monstro Town. none of Culex's attacks do anything more than 1 or 0 damage, so you can take your sweet time destroying him. This song sure does pown by the way!
tcmabes 2 years ago
Really? I'd usually get into the factory with an average party level (including inactive members) of around 23. Then I'd just level-grind with the falling Yaridovich copies until I get them all up to maximum level (30). After that, I make sure they're all equipped with the best weapons, armor, and accessories I can get for them, go in, and kick Smithy's metal arse.
jerkface42 2 years ago
this song kicks much ass! but yeah, for the speed run, your level ain't gonna be high when you get to him. Outside of that, I'm in the same boat as you.
tcmabes 2 years ago
Ah, I see. Well, I was never really interested in doing speedruns. I'm a completionist more than a speedster.
jerkface42 2 years ago
yeah, but I can't seem to get all those damn frog coins! the hardest one in my opinion is the one in mushroom kingdom that you can only get if you jump off of toads head and onto the first doorway he goes through on the way to the kings domain.
tcmabes 2 years ago
and by frog coins, I mean hidden chests. haha
tcmabes 2 years ago
me!
shannongabriel 2 years ago
I found a trick to beat Smithy easily ;) someone wanna hear it?
Elvisgratton90 2 years ago
i do!
KingaKoopa 2 years ago
I sent you a message
Elvisgratton90 2 years ago
Me! (although I've beaten him 15 million times.)
IRNatman 2 years ago
I sent you a message
Elvisgratton90 2 years ago
i do
starwolf112 2 years ago
I sent you a message as well
Elvisgratton90 2 years ago
Now I'm curious. You never know when something new might pop up...
mecakoto 2 years ago
no.
Jecht111 2 years ago
i do i do!
diesellady 2 years ago
Man this song gives me chills, Smithy was a major pain int he ass to beat. In his First Forme. I only killed him once when I was 4 in his second forme.
KitsuneDzelda 2 years ago 3
Epic Pwnage.
MichelFP 2 years ago
i think exor shouldve been final boss in the song rawest forest he calls mario and friends retarded
kanjunkson 2 years ago
Smithy was a great final boss! even hard at the top level cap!
cmdood92 2 years ago
it would but he cant be in it or the song just like geno because square enix helped make smrpg so nintendo has to pay them like they did with snake. so its either snake or smrpg =/
steevoweevo 2 years ago
smithy is on shrooms
713102 2 years ago
what if smithy was in brawl???
his final smash would be a random selection of his other forms
TheGenofan7 2 years ago
Unfortunately, since squaresoft (now known as squarenix) owns the game, Nintendo can't do that.
But maybe since the demand for Geno in Brawl is so high, they could reason with squarenix to get him in (along with Smithy and friends as bosses for story mode, perhaps) the next smash bros. game.
ThundergodxRaiden 2 years ago 3
true that, i just hope that somehow that happens
TheGenofan7 2 years ago
As awesome as that would be, I doubt he would be more than an Assist Trophy. He didn't even get a sticker in Brawl. Too bad, though. Mario RPG had some of my favourite characters.
razanak7 2 years ago
yea. well, i tried
TheGenofan7 2 years ago
Square has already licensed Geno for a Nintendo game before. He had a small cameo in Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga. It doesn't seem unreasonable that they would do it again.
Also, there was an unused remake of the forest maze music on the Brawl disk, so we know the developers are on board with the idea.
Actually, it's quite puzzling why this hasn't already happened yet.
Podruvan 2 years ago
geno was never added in because they coulden't embody his epicness, why else?
I'm kidding of course, because they know that they made him for combat games, he has a smash already (whirl(OMG OVER 9000!!!)) and is the hawtest char ever. But they prolly were too lazy to ask permission.
Duosss 2 years ago
Well whatever the reason is we'll probably never know.
Podruvan 2 years ago
Might have been for the same reason as Ridley wasn't playable: Sakurai just never even thought about it. Considering that Ridley was #2 on the vote list of who people wanted playable in Brawl (King Dedede was #1, Meta Knight, someone else and Geno were also in the top 5), it was really stupid on his part.
But hey, this is the same guy who thought making unique and possible-playable characters like Saki, Little Mac, Ray mkIII and Gray Fox into Assist Trophies.
GoGojiraGo 2 years ago
Little thing I find funny. Golden sun, although an excellent game, is not the most popular out there, yet it had both a track and an assist trophy(Isaac), and SMRPG didn't even have a sticker, though it is much more popular.
All in all, I think that nintendo and square should have stayed together. Although we probably woulden't have kingdom hearts(being that nintendo hates to spend money like Square did on disney rights) if they stayed as the same company, many games would have been better.
Duosss 2 years ago
I knew about geno's cameo in superstar saga (I own that game and have played through it) but I didn't know about the remixed forest maze music; that's awesome!
But yeah, it is very strange that he hasn't appeared anywhere else. And for the record, I vote for his final smash being geno blast, where he turns into a civil war-era cannon and fires a huge energy sphere at the enemy.
ThundergodxRaiden 2 years ago
That was Geno Flash
SateliteRaider 2 years ago
The Forest Maze remix wasn't found on the Brawl disc, that is an ugly rumor. It was made to fit the style of Brawl remixes, and was released saying so. If the theme was found on the Brawl disc, then that would make no sense because Nintendo would of payed for the rights to the song without paying for the rights to Geno as well :\
Twinleaf32 2 years ago
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TheTempoHunter 2 years ago
Where exactly did you hear this story?
Edited for grammars.
TheTempoHunter 2 years ago
Think about it, why would Nintendo spend money for the rights of a SMRPG song without buying the rights to a character as well? Nintendo isn't known to waste money, and they would have included the song in the Brawl soundtrack if they bought rights to it.
Twinleaf32 2 years ago
Just because you can't explain something doesn't mean that it's impossible. A lot of time and money goes into content that doesn't make it into the final game. That's just the nature of game design.
TheTempoHunter 2 years ago
Look, the track wasn't in the game, it wasn't on the disk, that's it, nothing more. Nintendo already stated that they were only putting Sonic (Characters, Music, Stages.) and Snake (Characters, Music, Stages.) in Brawl, those were the only third party rights they purchased, Sega and Konami, and that's only because they asked for their characters to be in Brawl. If Nintendo did put the song on the disk, they would have violated copyright laws and would likely have been sued by Square Enix.
Twinleaf32 2 years ago
I'm not saying your theory is impossible. All I'm saying is that it is possible (keyword: possible) that there is another explanation.
TheTempoHunter 2 years ago
Not known to waste money? How many Mario Party games did they make again?
abcgefp 2 years ago 6
8,i think
Mrbuizel7 2 years ago 3
Actually 10
Sabertooth1000000000 2 years ago 3
So did nintendo pay Square Enix for the Mario's house theme in Mario & Luigi SuperStar Saga?
The music isn't exactly as a character
PaperMario931 2 years ago
Yes, Nintendo did say there were small cameos of SMRPG in M&L:SS, such as music and the Geno doll introducing the arcade minigame.
Twinleaf32 2 years ago
i don't think so, they remade it.
Minilinkki 2 years ago
awesome theme should be in next smash bros game
nintendoforever1995 2 years ago
Awsome Remix
EvilPringles 2 years ago
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Aaronthereal1 1 year ago 2
@Aaronthereal1 : Thumbs up for you for reading my mind completely.
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@GenoStar900 144 Thumbs up. I think we safely have our verdict. WE LIKE SUPER MARIO RPG!! :D
MithosFall 1 year ago
I think Mario RPG characters are rare in the rest of the Mario universe because they are owned by Square, I have only seen a cameo of Geno in M&L SS.
This is an awesome song though, I got this game on my Wii!
Xaragon64DS 2 years ago
I love Smithy. He's such a kickass boss. I just wish he'd show up more in the game rather then just the ending. ROCK ON SMITHY!!!!!!!!!!!! >:D
CaboosesApprentice 2 years ago
Sounds like it would in brawl. Great Job!
bobotherobohobo 2 years ago
his teeth look like they were taken off a bulldog then placed there for his teeth, of course they should have this guy in a mario game.
woee3 2 years ago
you know....I'm 19. I've played this game literally 100 times and have uncovered every secret and even did restriction challenges....and of all the times I've played this i have NEVER noticed that Smithys arms were chains o.0 I don't look at fan art but seeing this i was like "wait, what? since when are his arms chains?
kefka3 2 years ago 3
how can his arms stay up like that? I mean their on chains dude!
woee3 2 years ago 2
Maybe it's the power of the star on his chest... or some sort of magnetism, other than that I have no idea
Zihark597 2 years ago 2
Magic.
josefblack 2 years ago
It's king, of course it's magic. Like... He can transform.
And the chains are just powerful 'cause he smithed alot.
Henkco 2 years ago 3
He went to the Mushroom Kingdom branch of 24 hr Fitness every day.
ThundergodxRaiden 2 years ago
What can i say......Astoundroll!
ShadowLuigi333 2 years ago
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ZenJestr 3 years ago
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abcgefp 3 years ago
Awesome song! is not better than the original but it's still awesome! thanks for posting video, and thanks podruvan for creating it! 5/5 and fav.
001124 3 years ago 2
Nice remix theme. Like Mega said, Bitchin' o.o.
revolutionarykyle 3 years ago
Like I said, this wasn't made by me just so you know
marcster1994 3 years ago
not bad
flailshoot 3 years ago
Bitchin'. o.o
MegaGeek325 3 years ago