"Death Waltz" was the perfect name for the remix, but the name was already taken by another song and and so now there are two "Death Waltz"s thus causing great confusion.
This is all you need to know. "Death Waltz" = nonsense. Joke with music notes. One day, some idiot put together a mix of the nonsense of Death Waltz with a piano version of the song at the top of my comment which is an arrangement of UN Owen Was Her. Then a bunch of other idiots heard that and thought the only discernible melody from the song (Owen Was Her) was called Death Waltz. Then followed a sh*tstorm of Touhou fans vs impressionable idiots.
@djmlcz Also the fact that liking pokemon does not limit me to being in a certain grade. Just because I like pokemon doesn't automatically mean that I am less than you. Fine, be a douche, but knowing that i willingly say that I like pokemon on the web makes me that much more daring than you will ever be. If you want to be a dirty fucker putting other people down, so be it.
At least my name is legible. Your djmlcz looks like a 2nd grader got on the computer and pounded on the keys.
@FlameForPeace Except the remix people assume is Death Waltz is actually by COOL&CREATE.
John Stump didn't remix the theme. He probably didn't even know about it. The actual Death Waltz that John Stump composed is unplayable, and requires more than a piano. Some guy just decided to call a piano arrangement of COOL&CREATE's remix Death Waltz.
@wisefelipe You still misinterpertted what I've said. The death waltz i'm referrig to is the one that everyone who mistook the u.n owen piano piece as death waltz, not the actual music sheet. I am very aware that the video and the sheet are completely different. If you looked back at the comment I made a month ago, I even said to compare the actual music sheet to the video and that they are not the same.
@masterxak You knew this already, xak. Cmon, It's not like I haven't been bragging on facebook about managing to complete Touhou 6, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, or anything. Well, I'm past Subterranean Animism now.
@masterxak My youtube comment predates the facebook comment. This isn't homestuck, you can't justify having digital correspondences in reverse chronological order. The time I'm spending typing up this reply is time I'm not spending on Touhou 12.3.
Conclussion #! (Sorry About my absence) The Song "Death Waltz" By John Stump can be found easy (by comparing) the SECOND (The Speedy Version/Part) of "U.N. Owen Was on Her" took me a while but even the ending is the same as the one in synthesia (boom-like) anyways compare this /watch?v=Gx02KOGhjes and this watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78 (@ 2:01)
Actually Faerie's Aire was composed BEFORE the game, the "death waltz", the original piece was started in 1967 and finished somewhere between 1970-1990 (nobody knows the exact date except john stump) you know of today is a remixed adoption of the original piece which was uploaded by someone named guerep7 which completely ripped off the original piece and remixed it into an ever lasting flame war about which came first. If anyone disagrees with me, prove me wrong.
Wow, you actually think that the did a remix of a video game theme into a classical song! Well if you think that the video game theme was made first then you officially have an IQ of 2!
john stump's death waltz sounds nothing like the ones that people have put up here my mom has the sheet music to it and my neighbor played the sheet music so i think its someones idea of trying to show off as a know-it-all or they were bored out of their mind either way they misnamed and made themselves look kinda dumb
@titwane I believe that Death Waltz was confused with with a remix of U.N. Owen was her? from Touhou. If you search up the actual sheet music, it looks nothing like the synthesia "Death Waltz" that people are claiming "U.N. Owen was her?" stole from.
Not John Stump at all. Fuck Guerep7 for posting that UN Owen Was Her? remixed by "Cool and Create" is Death Waltz. It's not.
First (oldest) vid posted by Guerep7 on youtube with by UN Owen Was Her? remixed by "Cool & Create" music and "Death Waltz" as the title. The description reads:
:D
okay. its a fake. not of death waltz.
/watch?v=gMQabj5eUFQ
Go see the original full 10 minute posting that has the other two versions as well.
Actually this piece of music was at some point misnamed by someone as death waltz, and that name stuck, while both pieces you are comparing are by ZUN (though one is a remix I think) and neither even comes close to what John Stumps Death Waltz would actually sound like... just google john stump and you should find a picture of the sheet music from the actual Death Waltz
@lunaatje123 agreed am going round posting this to get them to correct it: am very depressed NOTHING TO DO WITH JOHN STUMP OR FAERIE'S AIRE AND DEATH WALTZ WHY DOES EVERYONHE MAKE THIS MISTAKE CHUCK NORRIS COULD NOT PLAY THE REAL THING WITHOUT CLONING HIMSELF THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOHN STUMP WHY DOES EVERYONE MAKE THIS MISTAKE PLEASE STOP IT AND PASS THIS ON EITHER REMOVE THIS OR RENAME IT THIS IS NOT FAERIES AIRE AND DEATH WALTZ IT IS AN INSULT TO THE LATE JOHN STUMP WHY DOES EVERYONE DO
Bro... John Stum *IS* The Composer... People actually READ it Wrong, and results as another Sounding making the whole song completely SENSELESS. ZUN Simple REMADE That song with its ACTUAL Staff and remixed it a bit (to the "Soft Kid-Like" and then a More Stronger which is The "Killing Kid-Like") =_= If you don't accept this then fine >YOUR OPINION<, Truth is Truth Sorry to disapoint...
@xlordsolrac2 Try comparing these two: Final Savage Sister Flandre S. original music(U.N. Owen was her? remixed by COOL&CREATE) AND Death Waltz, it's actually the same. So there's only one Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz by John Stump and Touhou is actually nothing to do with John Stump.
@xlordsolrac2 How is it read wrong? (I'm assuming you mean the music itself?) lostinthecloud[dot]files[dot]wordpress[dot]com/2010/03/faeries-aire[dot]gif (replace the [dot]s w/ real dots) This is a pic of the real sheet music of John Stump's Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz. It IS made with a real staff and can't be read any other way. So it can't really be remade. (Well, it can, but it wouldn't sound like ZUN's U.N. Owen Was Her) Also, U.N. Owen Was Her came before this fanmade remix. Am I wrong?
UN Owen was Her is very similar to the song played in this video.
The Death Waltz involves shooting Penguins THROUGH the ceiling, having a cow on stage and doesn't even have a piano in it.
This song here (in the video) is an arrange of UN Owen Was Her made by a group called COOL&CREATE who is FAMOUS FOR DOING TOUHOU ARRANGES (Touhou is the game ZUN makes and where his songs are originally found). This song is NOT the Death Waltz.
@wisefelipe I am aweare of this video.. But I still see the Official Staff (tried to remake it) and it still says Death Watlz by John Stump... Notice... The MIDI is WAY Slower then the COOL&CREATE Version.... >> An Arrangement of a Remix? =.=
"But I still see the Official Staff (tried to remake it) and it still says Death Watlz by John Stump"
I don't understand what you mean by that, can you explain this better please?
As for the Midi being slower, there's no chance of the original being an arrange of the COOL&CREATE version, unless ZUN has the ability to travel through time.
I've no doubt about the things I've said, I just want to understand what you got wrong so I can help u understand.
@xlordsolrac2 No. Just... no. John Stump composed an entirely different song. I don't know how or why they got mixed up, but the facts are that:
1. The song that people call "Death Waltz" is a REMIX of "U.N. Owen Was Her?" Composed by ZUN.
2. John Stump composed a song called "Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz" that is entirely different from "U.N. Owen Was Her?" and you can hear it here: watch?v=sCgT94A7WgI (starts at 3:50)
@NESAtariSegaNerd the title of COOL&CREATE's version 最終鬼畜妹・フランドールS Here's 2 piano arrangements by marasy8 with that same title. youtu (dot) be/OEQ7XzBnByU youtu (dot) be/ZpIN-RypoMk the 2nd one is first U.N. Owen that goes into COOL&CREATE's version A video of the same song that everyone is thinking of, but has the title of COOL&CREATE's version youtu (dot) be/b14kz7Qa62E which is a reprint of this video nicovideo (dot) jp/watch/sm7764460
@Eenkin If anybody wants to blame ZUN for copying anything, blame him for copying one of Beethoven's Sonata no. 8 Pathetique - 3rd Movement for using the beginning of the song in Remilia Scarlet's theme in Touhou 6: EoSD Septette for the Dead Princess.
I know ZUN didn't copy Death Waltz if you just googled the music sheet and try to play it yourself.
:\ how hard is this to understand. Death waltz was made before ZUN made U.N. Owen was Her. But Death waltz was and is just a humorous collection of notes on paper. John Stump was creative and hilarious. People giving him credit for something HE DID NOT WRITE is in insult to his memory. John Stump had nothing to do with U.N. Owen was Her.
ZUN wrote U.N. Owen was her in 2001, and a musical group called COOL&CREATE made a remix of it, which is what you all think is death waltz . do some research.
freaking morons. look up death waltz in google images, then look at the first image. that's the real death waltz. see, the real death waltz is a joke.
COOL&CREATE made a remix of U.N. Owen was Her, and someone uploaded the remix into synesthesia. and that person decided to call it death waltz. why? i don't know.
No one is here because the music. Just because the music has a awesome name and because all of us read "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil and thought: "fucking awesome music name for a fucking awesome game"
Instead of tryung to explain why you are wrong in the typical Youtube sence, i.e., typing in all caps and calling you a faggot thirty thousand times, I am going to attempt to explain to you why it is very likely that you are wrong using, get this, Logic.
The game with this song was released in 2002. John Stump died in 2006. It is very possible that the song was composed and then modified slightly to be used in the game, four years before the death of the composer.
Do you not realise that the entire basis of most Western Classical music comes copying ideas from other composers? Campus Firmus, are an example of this where you take a pre-existing melody and change it to create a new piece of music. Plagiarism is hard to do in music.
All of you just listen to me, the original composer of death waltz was john stump. But the truth is, IT HAS NO RELATION TO U.N. OWEN WAS HER. Touhou's U.N. owen was her is composed by ZUN himself. Then Cool & Create remixed the song. The song is actually a hard song on piano. And mistakenly changed to Death Waltz by Guerep7. Because John Stump composed music not played, but seen
@Rayx0527@Rayx0527 Cool&Create are not the makers of all Touhou music. :/
Your first two points are correct. The "Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz" is indeed a song fully composed by John Stump, as one can see here: /watch?v=jXMujWmFzNw
However, Cool&Create is only a doujin circle remixing Touhou music.
The original "U.N. Owen was her" was - like all the original Touhou music - made by ZUN himself, as one can see here: en touhouwiki net/wiki/ZUN
@Rayx0527 No. ZUN isn't a company. HE is the person who makes all the games and everything in the games himself and COOL&CREATE is... fuck it, nevermind.
You honestly need to use your head. Video game music doesn't just come out of nowhere, it must all be be written first. John Snow was the individual who composed this music for piano before this company purchased the rights to it.
The song made by the ZUN composer guy was nicknamed "The Death Waltz" because it was deemed unplayable, and named after John Stump's Faeries Air and Death Waltz because of a lack of a better translated name. "UN Owen Was Her?" isn't a very good title for a song as epic as this.
@MJThesmoothcriminal Little King's Story actually used only classical and Nutcracker music. The way they remixed it was really quite ingenious. They got... Was it five? At least five completely different-sounding songs out of Rhapsody in Blue. Just one of many reasons it's my favorite game ever. XD
@linkinspirit95 gogle has maybe 1 website with any substantial info on him - and even that is untrustworthy to the nth degree because the author claims to be his son and the article was written 4 years after his death.. given how infamous this piece is (even if it's only on the internet) i'd expect there to be a lot more about him and on at least a few reputable websites.
I heard that somone once called "UN owen was her " death waltz because they didn't know what to trancelate it into, so they decided to call it death waltz because it's so hard to play. something like that.
Please, my dear, did you ever seen that the music of a composer can be use for a game or a movie after he composed it, or maybe after his death? I say that without knowing something about John stump's life or about the game you're talking about here, but for example, we can hear in The Sting(movie, 1973) a music composed by Joplin 80 years or more before the movie. P-S: sorry if my english is not good, i'm french :-D
@MJThesmoothcriminal yes i am aware that the music in movies and video games were made be a music composer. the composer to this song is probably some Japanese guy from ZUN.
P-S: im sorry to hear your french, that must really suck
@titwane03 Your argument is invalid. Have you even seen the original sheet music by John Stump? It is absolutely nothing like UN Owen was her? and bears no resemblance to it in any way, shape or form.
What I said was that Death Waltz sounds too much alike to Final Salvage Sister, Flandre S. (aka cool&create's remix of U.N owen was her) that the piano piece was meant to be a piano version of Final Salvage Sister.
Again, the original Death Waltz has absolutely nothing similar to the Cool&create's remix or the original UN Owen.
The original Death Waltz (the one by John Stump) music's sheet had things like "let the pinguins loose" "invite the cow into stage" and doesn't even sound like music when someone actually tries to play it. John Stump was a composer who create joke songs which couldn't be played and which looked funny in the music sheet. I don't even think it has a piano in it.
@p0kemaster1 Pokemons gay dude : /
motivationink 5 days ago
shut up Meg....
ralstonjack 1 week ago
"Death Waltz" was the perfect name for the remix, but the name was already taken by another song and and so now there are two "Death Waltz"s thus causing great confusion.
bobred5 1 week ago
Death Waltz by John Stump = not a real playable musical piece
The "Death Waltz" youtubers know = Cool&Create remix of UN Owen Was Her, piano arrange
03mrx 1 week ago
BULL POOP JOHN STUMP WAS BORN YEARS BEFORE THIS VIDEO GAME POOP PLOP WAS EVEN MADE, -_-
siomar60 1 week ago
TOUHOU
LlamasOkiAmmaPie 2 weeks ago
@LlamasOkiAmmaPie BULLETHELL :D
Joh447 2 weeks ago
/watch?v=R_lYJpMqsiQ
This is all you need to know. "Death Waltz" = nonsense. Joke with music notes. One day, some idiot put together a mix of the nonsense of Death Waltz with a piano version of the song at the top of my comment which is an arrangement of UN Owen Was Her. Then a bunch of other idiots heard that and thought the only discernible melody from the song (Owen Was Her) was called Death Waltz. Then followed a sh*tstorm of Touhou fans vs impressionable idiots.
Ultimaniacx4 3 weeks ago
@Ultimaniacx4 the U.N. Owen remix is 'Final Savage Sister S - U.N. Owen Was Her?'
darnster200 3 weeks ago
FL IS SHIT
antivain360 3 weeks ago
how about we all shut up about this and listen to the one that is obviously better.... DEATH WALTZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
superflyninjadude 4 weeks ago
I'm sad about that not many people here know the orginal song what is from the game Touhou 6 Embodiment of Scarlet Devil from 2002
its not bad that John Stump made a remade of the song with a bit more sounds
but it is unforgiveable that he not had saied that he took the song "UN Owen was her?"
no he took it, made a remade and saied that it was his idea
and one more think
UN was her? is playable on piano
John Stump use to much notes-deathwalz is impossible to play complet on piano
FlameForPeace 4 weeks ago
@FlameForPeace Are you still in third grade???
p0kemaster1 3 weeks ago
@p0kemaster1 wow and thats coming from some guy that goes by pokemaster1
djmlcz 3 weeks ago
@djmlcz Well any good names were taken.
p0kemaster1 3 weeks ago
@djmlcz Also the fact that liking pokemon does not limit me to being in a certain grade. Just because I like pokemon doesn't automatically mean that I am less than you. Fine, be a douche, but knowing that i willingly say that I like pokemon on the web makes me that much more daring than you will ever be. If you want to be a dirty fucker putting other people down, so be it.
At least my name is legible. Your djmlcz looks like a 2nd grader got on the computer and pounded on the keys.
p0kemaster1 3 weeks ago 2
@FlameForPeace Except the remix people assume is Death Waltz is actually by COOL&CREATE.
John Stump didn't remix the theme. He probably didn't even know about it. The actual Death Waltz that John Stump composed is unplayable, and requires more than a piano. Some guy just decided to call a piano arrangement of COOL&CREATE's remix Death Waltz.
Your grammar and capitalization are also crap.
generalwool 3 weeks ago
lol .. how can you choose the piano rolls in fl like that ?
xyproductions1 1 month ago
This Guy DID Comfirm my theory =w= Yes you the author
xlordsolrac2 1 month ago
you, are a fag.
MowMan7 1 month ago
3:00
jakedacrazy321 1 month ago 13
@wisefelipe You still misinterpertted what I've said. The death waltz i'm referrig to is the one that everyone who mistook the u.n owen piano piece as death waltz, not the actual music sheet. I am very aware that the video and the sheet are completely different. If you looked back at the comment I made a month ago, I even said to compare the actual music sheet to the video and that they are not the same.
Eenkin 1 month ago
@Eenkin hmm...
well put, good sir.
thank you for adding just a little bit of logic to Youtube
iamthezach 1 month ago
um.. video games are for young kids and teenagers not for stoned retards who cant figure out ubout songs.
Crazymonkeylolz9 1 month ago
Hmm...
U.N. Owen Was Her?
Death Waltz?
Google Image music sheet?
Nope, this is not death waltz...
Neither the one which have a 1.21 or a trolling face in it...
Real Death Waltz...
Crazy.
videohell201 1 month ago
People who disliked were wrong.
Kloodekloo 1 month ago
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!! finally i was getting so confused with so many people calling it death waltz.
masterxak 1 month ago
@masterxak its called Un owen was her.
masterxak 1 month ago
@masterxak You knew this already, xak. Cmon, It's not like I haven't been bragging on facebook about managing to complete Touhou 6, Embodiment of Scarlet Devil, or anything. Well, I'm past Subterranean Animism now.
MindlessInvalid 1 month ago
@MindlessInvalid we discussed this james you only think you did.
masterxak 1 month ago
@masterxak My youtube comment predates the facebook comment. This isn't homestuck, you can't justify having digital correspondences in reverse chronological order. The time I'm spending typing up this reply is time I'm not spending on Touhou 12.3.
MindlessInvalid 1 month ago
@MindlessInvalid oh I just thought you were a time traveler
masterxak 1 month ago
love this song and have been trying to find it for ages now i can download it ... SWEET!!
Epinephrine452 1 month ago
There is a word out there people and it is called a shear "coincidence" (just pointingit out-please no arguments)
DreamXxXDemon178 1 month ago
Nice desktop brah
nickedreprography 1 month ago
.......john stup mad up the conspirisy himself he is the greatest troll ever so stfu
kmtatyou 1 month ago
@kmtatyou John Stump the greatest troll ever in touhou history.
ZephyrT94 1 month ago
3:27 THEN 3:35 for comparison ^_^ Thumbs up so everyone can see
ReadyMonitor 1 month ago
Cool&Create = Daft Punk
i dont think this resembles anything
Cool&Create = Euro Trance
Maybe
Cool&Create = Unknown artist
maybe
anything?
tailsxx1 1 month ago
Conclussion #! (Sorry About my absence) The Song "Death Waltz" By John Stump can be found easy (by comparing) the SECOND (The Speedy Version/Part) of "U.N. Owen Was on Her" took me a while but even the ending is the same as the one in synthesia (boom-like) anyways compare this /watch?v=Gx02KOGhjes and this watch?v=8jJZA-O_B78 (@ 2:01)
xlordsolrac2 1 month ago
@xlordsolrac2 If You didn't like the Pianpo Version Here's a more detailed version (the one I compared) \/watch?v=06yF2NSiYs
xlordsolrac2 1 month ago
or at least the program looks like it.
genderbentace 1 month ago
VOCALOID
genderbentace 1 month ago
Actually Faerie's Aire was composed BEFORE the game, the "death waltz", the original piece was started in 1967 and finished somewhere between 1970-1990 (nobody knows the exact date except john stump) you know of today is a remixed adoption of the original piece which was uploaded by someone named guerep7 which completely ripped off the original piece and remixed it into an ever lasting flame war about which came first. If anyone disagrees with me, prove me wrong.
thecommentar1 2 months ago
@thecommentar1 My Point Exactly :3 That's why I say, It's just a Tribute
xlordsolrac2 1 month ago
Click 3.06 to skip the bullshit advertisement.
gtasanandreasdrifter 2 months ago
no its not. there is no way you can
make this difficult song in 1980s.
google john stump and find the sheet.
aaa6651 2 months ago
My gosh! its from John Stump you idiot! (im in a bad mood right now)
HeavenStar4849 2 months ago
OMG LOOK UP YOUR RESOURCES!
GamingNerd505 2 months ago
Wow, you actually think that the did a remix of a video game theme into a classical song! Well if you think that the video game theme was made first then you officially have an IQ of 2!
54bmr53 2 months ago
@54bmr53
Look at my channel, it's full of remix of video game themes into classical songs.
wisefelipe 1 month ago
THE GIANT DOLLAR BILL ON THE WALL
trinilovessf 2 months ago
I love Flandre Scarlet and hate John Stump.
videohell201 2 months ago
This guy is high, or maybe stupid
Shxric 2 months ago
I cant believe this guy actually wastes his time trying to explain all this when nobody really cares
Dhunt2334 2 months ago
john stump's death waltz sounds nothing like the ones that people have put up here my mom has the sheet music to it and my neighbor played the sheet music so i think its someones idea of trying to show off as a know-it-all or they were bored out of their mind either way they misnamed and made themselves look kinda dumb
Darkwitch1941 2 months ago
-->4:32<-- skip the fuckin long intro that's a minimmum half of the whole vid.
XxxYoon404 2 months ago
here : 3:02
A66XX 2 months ago
The first time that I heard to the Death Waltz, i know the song is copied from the song from that video game since that song is very famous in Asia.
nickykhc 2 months ago
@nickykhc Are you...
fucking... kidding me?
No.
KageTori12 2 months ago
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BY da way UN Owen Was Her? is actually a REMIX of DEATH WALTZ!
dragonflame2231 2 months ago
UN Owen Was Her? ripped off the song from Death Waltz
dragonflame2231 2 months ago
@titwane I believe that Death Waltz was confused with with a remix of U.N. Owen was her? from Touhou. If you search up the actual sheet music, it looks nothing like the synthesia "Death Waltz" that people are claiming "U.N. Owen was her?" stole from.
TwistedJabberjays 2 months ago 19
@TwistedJabberjays entirely correct see above
TheMaxChill 1 month ago
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@TwistedJabberjays correct
Not John Stump at all. Fuck Guerep7 for posting that UN Owen Was Her? remixed by "Cool and Create" is Death Waltz. It's not.
First (oldest) vid posted by Guerep7 on youtube with by UN Owen Was Her? remixed by "Cool & Create" music and "Death Waltz" as the title. The description reads:
:D
okay. its a fake. not of death waltz.
/watch?v=gMQabj5eUFQ
Go see the original full 10 minute posting that has the other two versions as well.
/watch?v=b14kz7Qa62E
rstheoneandonly 2 weeks ago
Stoned.... ;)
SidV76 2 months ago
asshole
cactusenterprize 3 months ago
Good job, you compared the original U.N.Owen to a remix. Death Waltz doesn't sound like either of those.
hoppefrosk 3 months ago
@hoppefrosk Guerep7 saying that's a fake and not of death waltz , we all got trolled big time.
/watch?v=gMQabj5eUFQ
ZephyrT94 2 months ago
3:06 You divided by zero, Didn't you?
malcolmmorin 3 months ago
Actually this piece of music was at some point misnamed by someone as death waltz, and that name stuck, while both pieces you are comparing are by ZUN (though one is a remix I think) and neither even comes close to what John Stumps Death Waltz would actually sound like... just google john stump and you should find a picture of the sheet music from the actual Death Waltz
lunaatje123 3 months ago 26
@lunaatje123 Thank you for saying this. Seriously, 70% of the people arguing over who wrote what doesn't even know what they're talking about.
HollyHCH 3 months ago
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@lunaatje123 agreed am going round posting this to get them to correct it: am very depressed NOTHING TO DO WITH JOHN STUMP OR FAERIE'S AIRE AND DEATH WALTZ WHY DOES EVERYONHE MAKE THIS MISTAKE CHUCK NORRIS COULD NOT PLAY THE REAL THING WITHOUT CLONING HIMSELF THIS IS NOTHING TO DO WITH JOHN STUMP WHY DOES EVERYONE MAKE THIS MISTAKE PLEASE STOP IT AND PASS THIS ON EITHER REMOVE THIS OR RENAME IT THIS IS NOT FAERIES AIRE AND DEATH WALTZ IT IS AN INSULT TO THE LATE JOHN STUMP WHY DOES EVERYONE DO
TheMaxChill 1 month ago
Shut the fuck up, listen to the music, enjoy, go gain some weight.
SmokeMeLightMeTagMe 3 months ago
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watch this video
/watch?v=gMQabj5eUFQ
ZephyrT94 3 months ago
Bro... John Stum *IS* The Composer... People actually READ it Wrong, and results as another Sounding making the whole song completely SENSELESS. ZUN Simple REMADE That song with its ACTUAL Staff and remixed it a bit (to the "Soft Kid-Like" and then a More Stronger which is The "Killing Kid-Like") =_= If you don't accept this then fine >YOUR OPINION<, Truth is Truth Sorry to disapoint...
xlordsolrac2 3 months ago
@xlordsolrac2 nice story bro
ZephyrT94 3 months ago 2
@ZephyrT94 Thankyou...
xlordsolrac2 3 months ago
@xlordsolrac2 please go youtube search final savage sister flandre scarlet (u.n. owen was her? remixed by cool&create)
ZephyrT94 3 months ago
@xlordsolrac2 Try comparing these two: Final Savage Sister Flandre S. original music(U.N. Owen was her? remixed by COOL&CREATE) AND Death Waltz, it's actually the same. So there's only one Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz by John Stump and Touhou is actually nothing to do with John Stump.
ZephyrT94 3 months ago
@xlordsolrac2 /watch?v=sCgT94A7WgI <-- The REAL Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz, you can see the music at the end with John Stump's name on it.
manganimegirl378 3 months ago
@manganimegirl378 That's the one that's Read WRONG
xlordsolrac2 3 months ago
@xlordsolrac2 How is it read wrong? (I'm assuming you mean the music itself?) lostinthecloud[dot]files[dot]wordpress[dot]com/2010/03/faeries-aire[dot]gif (replace the [dot]s w/ real dots) This is a pic of the real sheet music of John Stump's Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz. It IS made with a real staff and can't be read any other way. So it can't really be remade. (Well, it can, but it wouldn't sound like ZUN's U.N. Owen Was Her) Also, U.N. Owen Was Her came before this fanmade remix. Am I wrong?
manganimegirl378 3 months ago
@manganimegirl378 Good Point... But In My Opinion, ZUN made a Fan Made Version (Of A Fan Made Version)
xlordsolrac2 2 months ago
@xlordsolrac2
What the... how could you possibly come to such a conclusion?
wisefelipe 1 month ago
@wisefelipe Did you compare it? If You listen carefully you'll get my point
xlordsolrac2 1 month ago
@xlordsolrac2
UN Owen was Her is very similar to the song played in this video.
The Death Waltz involves shooting Penguins THROUGH the ceiling, having a cow on stage and doesn't even have a piano in it.
This song here (in the video) is an arrange of UN Owen Was Her made by a group called COOL&CREATE who is FAMOUS FOR DOING TOUHOU ARRANGES (Touhou is the game ZUN makes and where his songs are originally found). This song is NOT the Death Waltz.
You are aware of that, right?
wisefelipe 1 month ago
@wisefelipe I am aweare of this video.. But I still see the Official Staff (tried to remake it) and it still says Death Watlz by John Stump... Notice... The MIDI is WAY Slower then the COOL&CREATE Version.... >> An Arrangement of a Remix? =.=
xlordsolrac2 1 month ago
@xlordsolrac2
"But I still see the Official Staff (tried to remake it) and it still says Death Watlz by John Stump"
I don't understand what you mean by that, can you explain this better please?
As for the Midi being slower, there's no chance of the original being an arrange of the COOL&CREATE version, unless ZUN has the ability to travel through time.
I've no doubt about the things I've said, I just want to understand what you got wrong so I can help u understand.
wisefelipe 4 weeks ago
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@xlordsolrac2 No. Just... no. John Stump composed an entirely different song. I don't know how or why they got mixed up, but the facts are that:
1. The song that people call "Death Waltz" is a REMIX of "U.N. Owen Was Her?" Composed by ZUN.
2. John Stump composed a song called "Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz" that is entirely different from "U.N. Owen Was Her?" and you can hear it here: watch?v=sCgT94A7WgI (starts at 3:50)
Everyone needs to do some research...
HollyHCH 3 months ago 2
i supose u could learn to SHUT UP!!
Punkxification 3 months ago 2
i can smell his weed from here
7488rusty 3 months ago
The original is Owen was her but the remix was made by cool&create
drarab2 3 months ago
wow i do belive you are dumb.
themadhutty 3 months ago
Death Waltz was the original. The company who made the videi game ripped some parts from Death Waltz for their song, U.N. Owen Was Her.
NESAtariSegaNerd 3 months ago
@NESAtariSegaNerd First off, the video game is by ONE PERSON, ZUN, not a company.
2nd "Death Waltz" as many people thought is actually COOL&CREATE's remix of U.N. Owen was Her
U.N. Owen was Her was the original by ZUN. The title Death Waltz is some person who purposely mislabled the song to fool people.
If you see the music sheet compare to a music sheet version of COOL&CREATE's version, you would see they are not the same.
Eenkin 3 months ago
Eenkin 3 months ago
@NESAtariSegaNerd
which that video's description says it's a modified version of this
nicovideo (dot) jp/watch/sm6896044
which links up to a bunch of videos that are piano midis that has 最終鬼畜妹・フフランドール・S as the title.
最終鬼畜妹・フランドール・S means Final Salvage Sister, Flander S.
Flander S. is a game character from Touhou 6: Embodiment of the Scarlet Devil whose theme song is U.N. Owen was Her?.
Sorry it's long-winded, but the song that people thought was "Death Waltz" was mislabled as the wrong name.
Eenkin 3 months ago
@Eenkin If anybody wants to blame ZUN for copying anything, blame him for copying one of Beethoven's Sonata no. 8 Pathetique - 3rd Movement for using the beginning of the song in Remilia Scarlet's theme in Touhou 6: EoSD Septette for the Dead Princess.
I know ZUN didn't copy Death Waltz if you just googled the music sheet and try to play it yourself.
Eenkin 3 months ago
:\ how hard is this to understand. Death waltz was made before ZUN made U.N. Owen was Her. But Death waltz was and is just a humorous collection of notes on paper. John Stump was creative and hilarious. People giving him credit for something HE DID NOT WRITE is in insult to his memory. John Stump had nothing to do with U.N. Owen was Her.
ZUN wrote U.N. Owen was her in 2001, and a musical group called COOL&CREATE made a remix of it, which is what you all think is death waltz . do some research.
Nvyagoyadv 3 months ago
It's funny how you think this song was created for a video game. Composed long before it was an idea for a video game, bro.
TheSmitan 3 months ago
freaking morons. look up death waltz in google images, then look at the first image. that's the real death waltz. see, the real death waltz is a joke.
COOL&CREATE made a remix of U.N. Owen was Her, and someone uploaded the remix into synesthesia. and that person decided to call it death waltz. why? i don't know.
Nvyagoyadv 3 months ago
This song seems to be video game like and i thought as i heard it the first time it must be from a game
Streetsurfer644 3 months ago
No one is here because the music. Just because the music has a awesome name and because all of us read "Embodiment of Scarlet Devil and thought: "fucking awesome music name for a fucking awesome game"
VoidShiki 3 months ago
WHO THE FUCKING CARES ABOUT THE MUSIC ? IT'S JUST THE FUCKING AWESOME TOUHOU.
VoidShiki 3 months ago
look, death waltz is an actual song from john stump, but this is actually un owens was her. The actual song from john stump is quite different.
timbits1o1 3 months ago
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God forbid you ever take it upon yourself to critique pop music O.o
AnaphylacticShark 3 months ago
Stop talking in your videos!! you're so bored
oursititi 3 months ago
Instead of tryung to explain why you are wrong in the typical Youtube sence, i.e., typing in all caps and calling you a faggot thirty thousand times, I am going to attempt to explain to you why it is very likely that you are wrong using, get this, Logic.
The game with this song was released in 2002. John Stump died in 2006. It is very possible that the song was composed and then modified slightly to be used in the game, four years before the death of the composer.
iamthezach 3 months ago
@iamthezach
well, you talked nicely, so I will answer the same way.
The original Death Waltz is as similar to UN Owen Was Her? as the sound of traffic in a big city would be.
The song people has been calling "Death Waltz" is just a UN Owen Remix and has absolutely nothing to do with John Stump
wisefelipe 1 month ago
Do you not realise that the entire basis of most Western Classical music comes copying ideas from other composers? Campus Firmus, are an example of this where you take a pre-existing melody and change it to create a new piece of music. Plagiarism is hard to do in music.
isausol 3 months ago
Wow dude, who cares? The music is good, that's all I wanted :L
LuciferDante6666 3 months ago
All of you just listen to me, the original composer of death waltz was john stump. But the truth is, IT HAS NO RELATION TO U.N. OWEN WAS HER. Touhou's U.N. owen was her is composed by ZUN himself. Then Cool & Create remixed the song. The song is actually a hard song on piano. And mistakenly changed to Death Waltz by Guerep7. Because John Stump composed music not played, but seen
GiffityHutz2k10 3 months ago
you must be stoopid. very very stoopid. yes i spelled stupid like that for extra emphasis.
lSPlKylelSRSl 3 months ago
John Stump- famous composer for making impossible songs
Death Waltz- one song made by John Stump but was lost because of the confusion between Death Waltz and U.N. Owen was her?
U.N. Owen was her- theme for Flandre Scarlet made by Cool&Create
Cool&Create- maker of all Touhou music
ZUN- company that owns the Touhou Project
Conclusion- Cool&Create made the song "U.N. Owen was her" and a fan remixed it on Synthesia
Anymore questions ask me
Rayx0527 3 months ago
@Rayx0527 @Rayx0527 Cool&Create are not the makers of all Touhou music. :/
Your first two points are correct. The "Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz" is indeed a song fully composed by John Stump, as one can see here: /watch?v=jXMujWmFzNw
However, Cool&Create is only a doujin circle remixing Touhou music.
The original "U.N. Owen was her" was - like all the original Touhou music - made by ZUN himself, as one can see here: en touhouwiki net/wiki/ZUN
Just thought I'd clear that up too.
Ap0ske 3 months ago
@Ap0ske Thanks for explaining this to a touhou n00b ~
Could not have said this better myself.
HollyHCH 3 months ago
@Rayx0527 No. ZUN isn't a company. HE is the person who makes all the games and everything in the games himself and COOL&CREATE is... fuck it, nevermind.
KageTori12 2 months ago
You honestly need to use your head. Video game music doesn't just come out of nowhere, it must all be be written first. John Snow was the individual who composed this music for piano before this company purchased the rights to it.
eliasgoliath 3 months ago
@eliasgoliath : No, ZUN composed this song himself..
He deserves the credit for making this amazing song, don't try to take it from him.
HollyHCH 3 months ago
@eliasgoliath
You took that completely from inside your head right? Not much reading would be necessary to easily disprove all that you've said.
wisefelipe 1 month ago
The song made by the ZUN composer guy was nicknamed "The Death Waltz" because it was deemed unplayable, and named after John Stump's Faeries Air and Death Waltz because of a lack of a better translated name. "UN Owen Was Her?" isn't a very good title for a song as epic as this.
OMGItsJousis 3 months ago
@OMGItsJousis No, you're wrong. Do a little research first, before you try to prove something wrong.
HollyHCH 3 months ago
@HollyHCH Care to tell me why I'm wrong or correct me? "You're wrong." isn't very helpful.
OMGItsJousis 3 months ago
@OMGItsJousis Ok, I hope this helps you a little. ZUN is NOT nicknamed "The Death Waltz," which proves everything else you said wrong. (:
Did that help?
HollyHCH 3 months ago
dwag how high are you?
ShayanRj 3 months ago
The current know Death Waltz is a remix of Cool and Create's remix of "U.N. Owen was her?"
amirrbmj 3 months ago
to continue my comment, John Stump could be considered the Chuck Norris of composition.
k1ngdeth 3 months ago
UN owen war her? is an homage to the original Death Waltz.
k1ngdeth 3 months ago
@MJThesmoothcriminal Little King's Story actually used only classical and Nutcracker music. The way they remixed it was really quite ingenious. They got... Was it five? At least five completely different-sounding songs out of Rhapsody in Blue. Just one of many reasons it's my favorite game ever. XD
Wadell8 3 months ago
if John Stump is a real composer, why does he not have a Wikipedia page?
cultmiester 3 months ago
@cultmiester Because no one has made one yet...
linkinspirit95 3 months ago
@linkinspirit95 gogle has maybe 1 website with any substantial info on him - and even that is untrustworthy to the nth degree because the author claims to be his son and the article was written 4 years after his death.. given how infamous this piece is (even if it's only on the internet) i'd expect there to be a lot more about him and on at least a few reputable websites.
cultmiester 3 months ago
@cultmiester you're right, because when i heard john stump death waltz i was like "where is it?"
GiffityHutz2k10 3 months ago
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how dare you?
samevrel 3 months ago
Hmm... Now that you bring this up, I think someone used the "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star" song and made the "ABC's" song out of it...
astroballs69 4 months ago
I heard that somone once called "UN owen was her " death waltz because they didn't know what to trancelate it into, so they decided to call it death waltz because it's so hard to play. something like that.
ShiroNoNyanko 4 months ago
Please, my dear, did you ever seen that the music of a composer can be use for a game or a movie after he composed it, or maybe after his death? I say that without knowing something about John stump's life or about the game you're talking about here, but for example, we can hear in The Sting(movie, 1973) a music composed by Joplin 80 years or more before the movie. P-S: sorry if my english is not good, i'm french :-D
MJThesmoothcriminal 4 months ago
@MJThesmoothcriminal yes i am aware that the music in movies and video games were made be a music composer. the composer to this song is probably some Japanese guy from ZUN.
P-S: im sorry to hear your french, that must really suck
djmlcz 4 months ago
@djmlcz I'm sorry to hear you can't spell, that must suck too...
guitarfreak664 3 months ago
@djmlcz "your".. "YOUR" .. LOL!!
AkibaMCRGrenias 3 months ago
Woooooow! Dancin' in the shadow~!
ZephyrT94 4 months ago
The Touhou song is "U.N. Owen Was Her?".
The Touhou song was based off of "Death Waltz".
Deal with it. They're not the SAME song, but they're VERY similar, due to the fact that the Touhou one was based off of John Stump's composition.
DeliriousSecretPixel 4 months ago
@DeliriousSecretPixel What are you on about?
The John Stump song sounds NOTHING LIKE any version of U.N. Owen Was Her in existence in this universe.
THIS is the John Stump song: sCgT94A7WgI
DGneoseeker1 4 months ago 4
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@DeliriousSecretPixel What the f*ck are you talking?
ZephyrT94 4 months ago
Game: Touhou 6: Embodiment of Scarlet Devil
Song: U.N. Owen Was Her? (Flandre Scarlet's Theme)
Google is our friend.
GoochRash 4 months ago 2
U.N. Owen Was Her does not equal the satirical piece by John Stump.
dividebyzero100 4 months ago
idiot, john stump is the fucking composer
MasterBakufan 4 months ago 10
@MasterBakufan your icon pic for your channel is a troll face. obvious troll is obvious, idiot
djmlcz 4 months ago
@djmlcz its true though
Jakkinator45 4 months ago
@djmlcz lol, he is right.
Matsiboytoy 3 months ago
@djmlcz IN JUST MY OPINION,
John Sump is the REAL Composer of this song, but maybe it is not called Death Waltz
and then ZUN video game (or the composer?) remixed it.
and then COOL & CREATE remixed it again by combining stump and ZUN's song in piano
Thumbs up for coming up of my opinion
GiffityHutz2k10 3 months ago
@djmlcz ur just pissy cuz i have intellectual knowledge of classical music and their composers
MasterBakufan 3 months ago
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@djmlcz
UN Owen Was Her?- Touhou 6: The Embodiment Of Scarlet Devil (2002)
Death Waltz and Faeries Arie - John Stump (1980)
Your argument is now invalid.
titwane03 3 months ago 24
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@titwane03 Death Waltz and Faeries Arie doesn't even sound like this. Google the sheet music. Your argument is entirely invalid.
HollyHCH 3 months ago
@titwane03 Your argument is invalid. Have you even seen the original sheet music by John Stump? It is absolutely nothing like UN Owen was her? and bears no resemblance to it in any way, shape or form.
MushushuDX 2 months ago
@titwane03
Compare to Final Salvage Sister Flandre S. by COOL&CREATE (more better known as U.N. Owen was Her? remix) somewhere between 2004 (I think)
COOL&CREATE's version sounds too much alike to "Death Waltz" to be a remix of U.N. Owen was her? (Flandre Scarlet's theme).
Everything in C&C's version matches "Death Waltz" from the beginning to the piano smash except C&C's was slightly faster.
Also google the music sheet for Faerie's Aire and Death Waltz by John Stump and compare.
Eenkin 2 months ago
@Eenkin
That piano piece ios NOT Death Waltz.
Holy crap why is it so hard for people to understand that??
wisefelipe 1 month ago
@wisefelipe You've misinterperted what I said.
What I said was that Death Waltz sounds too much alike to Final Salvage Sister, Flandre S. (aka cool&create's remix of U.N owen was her) that the piano piece was meant to be a piano version of Final Salvage Sister.
Eenkin 1 month ago
@Eenkin
Again, the original Death Waltz has absolutely nothing similar to the Cool&create's remix or the original UN Owen.
The original Death Waltz (the one by John Stump) music's sheet had things like "let the pinguins loose" "invite the cow into stage" and doesn't even sound like music when someone actually tries to play it. John Stump was a composer who create joke songs which couldn't be played and which looked funny in the music sheet. I don't even think it has a piano in it.
wisefelipe 1 month ago
@titwane03 yeah your right the game stole the music.....stupid game
ratchet7221 2 months ago
@MasterBakufan you mean he is the composer of U.N. Owen was her? did you....did you plway the game, mister
OniHimeHatate 4 months ago
@MasterBakufan John Stump is my uncle.
ZephyrT94 4 months ago
@MasterBakufan John Stump isnt the damn composer. It was ZUN and Cool&CREATE. Case closed.
RockmanYoshi 4 months ago
@MasterBakufan No,You Hater. :D
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