@pittsky Oh, how fun! A racist conservative tool. Enjoy your prisons! They should make some asylums as well, so you could have a decent place to live in.
One thing that saddens me is that Duceppe resigned his position when solidarity within the party was most in need of his strength.
The voters who supported him deserved better from him.
There is a YT channel-holder who calls himself Little Doggie, with twin channels, Uneileuneville & CanadiansGoHome who preaches a tyranny against the will of the Quebecois &i nstead assumes a voice for our citizens & opposed to our views. He trolls YT seeking the opportunity to defame our people with his lies
Not proud of a government '' investing '' 35 BILLIONS into little toys airplanes and to defend other countries and never helping Quebec since 1867. Even with a 10% handicap, we still a proud country and don't whine Canadiens about perequation cause if you look closer at the stats you'll find that in term of perequation per citizen Quebec receive a normal income from the government.
Soo we must give a cow to the government (already done)with the milk? What about our bridge made of cheap ciment?
@xXQuebecRebelXx I'm surely not anti-Quebec....but to state that Quebec hasn't been helped since 1867 is pure bs. Quebec is the largest recipient of equalization payments...and it has been that way for many years. I'm close to 50 years old...and I've seen many concessions towards Quebec over many years...especially back in the days of Levesque. Every province can bitch about something in regard to federal politics...and Quebec is no different...
@viper10011 At least we've got something to represent us.. As small as it could be... Even if I don't want Quebec and Canada to be separated I think that all he want to do is protect the only french talking province in Canada..
@justanoldman1 well, iam not suprise.. I live in Montréal.. Born and raise.. Il also live in B.C 5 mounths a year for the past 9 years.. Iam a separatist.. I dont want Quebec to seperate cause i hate Canada.. I want to seperate cause i Love Quebec.. I hate the way you tink about Quebec.. Is Barcelone want to seperate from Spaine cause they are ignorants? Is Basque country want to seperate from France AND spain cause they are ignorants? Is Norten irland, etc, etc, etc, cause someone is ignorant?
@lepouceux I also was born in Montreal however I have lived all over this great country. I spent 13 years in B.C. and a couple in the maritimes.
I am a Canadian, the province that I live in makes no difference to me, I am just a Canadian. I have no prefix before Canadian, I am just a Canadian period.
Quebec has been given so much that they think they are different, they are not, just spoiled by the rest of Canada. If you separate, you will have to give back northern Quebec, that's ours.
@lepouceux No way, that was a gift for joining confederation and if you leave, we get James bay. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Strange, in these days of global ideas, Quebec is still thinking in terms of tribal. Quebec would be a island in the north american continent and both the States and Canada would impose large tariffs against it for being so stupid.
Your idea of separation is over, the youth of today just want a good job and a good life, they don't want your pipe dream and debt.
@lepouceux Quebec is on the recieving side of over 9 billion dollars a year and how would you get that if you were a separate country. I will tell you, very high taxes and you are the highest in Canada now.
There would be the cost of setting up your money, passports, post office and the cost of medicare would be all yours where as Canada pays for half now.
The St. Lawrence seaway is Canada's so you would have to pay us to use it, you would become Haiti of the north.
@justanoldman1 Where do you get the $9 billion figure from? Remember that the Post Office is currently profitable...not costing Canada ANYTHING... LOL...Canada pays for half for medicare...where does statement come from?? ...get your thinking straight before you spout crap. Yes,...there are consequences but you are spouting mostly ignorance here...LOL. I think senility is setting in.... Yes...they would have to deal with the balance of equalization payments...and that's really it...
@paulfornasier Do you really think that Quebec would just take over all the federal buildings in Quebec? They would have to pay for them or they would be torn down, just like the troops are doing now in Afghanistan.
The Federal government gives the provinces X number of dollars every year for medicare and that amount is increased by 6.1% every year, it covers about half the cost of the provinces medicare bills. Your separatest brain is blocked by ignorance and hate.
@paulfornasier Another thing you do not take into account is that the rest of Canada would stop buying products made in Quebec because they would be pissed off with the spoiled brats.
Quebec companies that now work in other Canadian provinces would not be allowed after separation.
Your standard of living would be cut in half over night, and we would laugh at you all the way to the bank.
@justanoldman1 Any kind of lashback wouldn't last long....and so where does that medicare money come from that the feds give them??? And you are a fucking idiot to label me as a separatist, as you have no idea who I am...PERIOD. Ya...and buildings will be torn down...LOL. Yes..they would have to pay for them. That is acknowledged..but they might not even need them all.. Quebec already manages much of it's own taxation. I'm not advocating separatism...but i'm debunking idiots like yourself.
@justanoldman1 If your mind is too frail to figure it out...medicare payments come from federal taxes....LOL. Was that too diffcult to figure out?? So..who will now collect those taxes???...LOL. Equaliazation payments are the difference...PERIOD!! They have already managed alot of their own trade...as they are french speaking...so they have strong ties to France ..and other french speaking nations. Yes..they would need to manage additional things...but necessity is the mother of invention..
@paulfornasier The last referendum millions of Canadian fought to save Quebec and I promise you if there is a yet another, very few Canadians will try. The feeling now is fuck off, we don't need you, you are nothing but spoiled brats and need to learn a hard truth.
Even now, Quebec still causes problems for Canadians, Newfoundland has to build an underwater line to the maritimes because Quebec won't allow their power through it's lines. Real shits and trouble makers.
@justanoldman1 You are speaking for yourself. You have no idea what Canadians will do in regard to Quebec. No Canadian wants to see Canada split up. Both Quebec AND Canada will lose significantly on breakup. This is why any kind of backlash wouldn't last long. And this where bashing Quebec doesn't serve anyone. Trudeau had it right by taking a firm nationalist stance,,,,but never stepping over the line and bashing them as Harper has done. This kind of stupidity only enhances separatism desire.
@paulfornasier I was a member of the reform party and I can tell you that every meeting I attended the biggest complaint was about Quebec getting everything from Ottawa and the west getting nothing. Quebec is the biggest basher of Alberta's oilsands project, I wonder why?
Quebec has the most crooked government in Canada all they want is to line their pockets with federal money.
@justanoldman1 Like I said, Quebec is number 5 on equalization per capita.....behind Manitoba, NS, NB, and PEI. The bashing clearly goes both ways. I'm on Youtube a fair amount...and the Albertans are CONSTANTLY bashing Quebec...especially Harper supporters. The bashing is really endless...and you are one of them for sure... This is ignorant politics on both sides.. it's the pettiness of regional parties...and the CPC is sinking it self back into regional party status with it's stupidity.
@justanoldman1 Look at what the CPC has done to itself in Quebec. They have lost ANY chance to gain seats there...as the Quebec vote is clearly about "anything but Harper". They are now bound to Ontario....and can't afford to ever lose support there. If Ontario voters shift at all, then they are back to being a regional party again. Is that good politics?? And the rhetoric starts at the top. If separatism revives...who is to blame right now?? A polarity creates another polarity....
@justanoldman1 I live in BC and I think our govt is incredibly crooked...and Ontarians feel the same about theirs. I don't give a shit about Alberta and Quebec...and most BC people don't either. We have our own problems. The bashing is mostly between Alberta....the economic power in Canada at this moment...and they focus on bashing Quebec.... This is so clear...and it's ignorance...more about ego, than good politics... Bashing the oil sands comes from all over Canada and the world...
@TheTurc182 Read the context....do you think that many people in BC are into bashing Alberta and/or Quebec? My experience is that this is not true. Most BC'ers I meet have enough to deal with BC politics and economic matters...without having to go about bashing other provinces such as Alberta or Quebec. Do you differ on that?
@justanoldman1 Harper is taking on this stupid Alberta economic superiority stance....and hurting Canada with his arrogance.. Just wait a century or so, when oil is no longer a big source of revenue.....and see what a wasteland Alberta will be...especially isolated in the centre of a large land mass.... The mentality will change.... I have no respect for a politician who has no vision past his own nose...and gaining power...
@justanoldman1 Regarding the Churchill Falls deal with Newfoundland, it had nothing to do with separatism....but was really about money. I've always been a huge supporter of Danny Williams.... I wish he would move into federal politics, as I like his style better than any current leader in our Parliament. I agree that Hydro Quebec did not negotiate fairly. Are they the only govt corp that has acted unethically?? Not likely.. There are many examples of bad behaviour...especially with hydro.
@lepouceux I hate separatist, I think of them as traitors to my country and if I had my way, you and your kind would be tried and jailed for life. I think a nice prision in Antartica would do just fine and you would have to live off the land, ha ha.
My family still lives in Quebec and most quebecers think you guys are insane and a throwback to stoneage man from the tribal past. Ignorant of the modern global times and like the village idiot.
@justanoldman1 Keep in mind that a greater and greater part of Canada's wealth now comes from oil. Even Ontario has dipped into "have not" status along with Manitoba and all of the maritime provinces (except Newfoundland). Quebec is number 5 in regard to per capita equalization payments. Alberta's GDP is now more than 1.5 times Ontario's gdp. The vast majority of equalization is just a transfer from Alberta to the rest of Canada. That will change over time...as fuel sources have to change..
@lepouceux No.. we want to be seperate cause we love our difference.. Not cause we hate Canadians.. Comment slike yours just make me want to seperate more.. even if i live in B.C half of the year, and even if my best friend is from Sudbury, Ontario.. In your comment, YOU are ignorant..
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@gricer1326 Folks, no more e-mails pleeeeease! I know grocer is a child. I know grocer is good friends with Anne Horwath! I know grocer will not respond to questions because grocer can't answer. (TCHC happened on Mr. Ford's watch--what hypocrisy!)
Oh well, I know many on the left wing are getting angry because grocer makes you look so bad! (Uninformed, can't debate, emotions, swearing, a child-like creature with tantrums.)
@gricer1326 Amazing that grocer wants to continue to lie (notice no response to the Mr. Martin classy comment--grocer needs to look up the term, "classy"). Oh well, we'll leave grocer to the basement while Canada's party is having a convention.
Stop your lies grocer; otherwise, I'll have to correct you!
"Fair minded Canadians spreading the truth"...this is how Mr. Harper won his majority.
@gopconservative78 Wow, that's not an unsubstantiated, unprovoked, violent, derogatory, crass, offensive comment. I wonder where that came from. I wonder if your screen name has anything to do with it. Can't be...
@gopconservative78 Maybe you know something I don't I wasn't aware Ontario wanted to separate. As for Americans taking over the rest, I think you guys already tried that and as far as I recall it didn't really work out too well for you. Of course I suppose, considering you values it's likely too much to ask of you to know some simple history. Pathetic.
@gopconservative78 I hope you realize how funny that sounds. The NDP has replace the Bloc as the party of choice in Québec because that's what Québecers wanted. They decide who represents them. None of the rest of us do.
@gricer1326 Amazing of this Wiener issue in the US. This disgraced Democratic politician’s crime was sending questionable pictures over the net to adult women. Jack Laydown? Found naked in a common bawdy house where underage women and women of colour were present. Somehow NDP (Nude Democratic Party) supporters think this is okay?
Looks like our American friends have higher standards than some of us!
@mikefastener Bad week for Tim Hudak, just as he's about to reveal his campaign playbook he gets blasted with a scandal himself, interestingly one of his MPs did the same thing Wiener allegedly did! Now this is just interesting.
@gricer1326 So you say that one of Mr. Hudak's people get blasted about the same thing as Wiener did. Therefore, I must assume you agree how low NDP standards are to accept someone (Jack Laydown) found in a common bawdy house with under-age women!
@mikefastener If the story of Layton's massage parlour "incident" as you tell it were true, i might react differently. Otherwise it means absolutely nothing. As for the picture of Wiener's wiener, i would say that's inappropriate. I would also say that neoCON MP's "questionable picture" is inappropriate. Do you not agree?
@gricer1326 I have no idea of what MP's (you actually claimed it to be a MPP's picture in you last post--maybe something to do with your Anne Horvath claim? Why can't you wingers keep your facts straight?).
Oh well....what about my so called Jack "incident" is not true?
Go ahead grocer....for what, the 30th time, I've called you out?
@mikefastener Your version of the event is different from what actually happened. According to you, the police broke in, they found significant evidence of the provision of sexual services and Jack was reprimanded for committing an offence. According to the police report, they raided the place, Jack was there, the masseuse was leaving the room, they told him that the establishment was shady and that he shouldn't get his massages there. Very different story, even the neoCON rag Sun media agrees!
@gricer1326 I afraid you are lying, again. The police considered charging Jack (Jack Laydown of the Nude Democratic Party); but, backed off. Read the article detailing the FULL notes of the police officer. (Not the sections that you selectively piece together.)
@gricer1326 Sorry grocer--but; you are the hypocrite!
The amount of waste in Toronto is disgusting!!! From that Housing Corporation to the $200,000 rain water toilet at the CNE. Toronto needs a "kick in the ass" and get its books in order.
The HST is a huge provincial budget revenue item. You are now defending it. It is up to you to tell us the revenue loss and how it will be made up.
Ball is now in your court! pauly-boy is gone (shamed by me, btw).
@mikefastener So your solution to getting rid of this "waste" is to abandon a source of revenue? I'm sorry, that makes no fucking sense at all. If you love the HST so much you'd better not vote for Hudak, he wants to get rid of it too. I know exactly where paulfornasier is, he's on"Laura Ingraham takes down smarmy Chris Matthews" and he's beating the shit out of you. What, do you think i fell off a turnip truck? Honestly! Grow up.
@gricer1326 grocer your use of profanity betrays you! "f------g", "s----"--I never use these words because I am above them and can easily get a message across without them. You should be ashamed.
pauly lied on the other site. I quoted a CBC reference showing pauly to be a liar. He is getting increasingly agitated as he is being challenged by posters. I am firmly in control--pauly is not "beating the s--- out of me".
My debating skills and knowledge actually make you the child.
@mikefastener Aren't you a prude! Your argument is about a sound as a full martini glass balanced on an exercise ball, not a surprise you're flailing so stupidly. Your use of insults and lack of facts has lost you a great deal of credibility. You are not wanted here, a lot of people agree! î î î î î î î
@gricer1326 The TCHC incident happened during miller-boys watch. It only became exposed after Mr. Ford stepped in as mayor and started, "turning over the rocks" so-to-speak to stop the gravy train.
(And the TCHC was certainly a great gravy train under miller-boy.)
@mikefastener regardless, TCHC is still an essential service. Unless somebody comes up with a better alternative it will remain city-owned and operated. Any thoughts? (Thoughts? Gee, I just remembered who I'm talking to).
@mikefastener I see civil debate is a lost cause here. I only curse to enforce a point where necessary. Look back and you'll find maybe two or three posts in which I say such things. You and your insistence on insulting people is a far worse offence that dropping a single f-bomb, stay on topic, please.
@mikefastener You are simply pathetic. There have been previous governments from all parties that I have been proud of. The conservative government of Bill Davis was, in my opinion, a class act, while the Mike Harris government was an embarrassment for Ontario. Hudak is merely a redux of Harris. While it's true McGuinty is the lesser of the two evils neither of them should be remotely considered to lead Ontario. By process of elimination we arrive at the NDP as our party of choice.
@gricer1326 Sad person....why do you impose (look it up if you need to) your sadness on others?
Dalton McLier is an embarrassment to all voters in Ontario. Bill Davis? Someone who would allow the public service to go wild with wage demands and therefore allow the deficit to explode.
I am so happy we have some common sense in all levels of gov't--provincially soon.
@mikefastener I agree with you. McGuinty is not fit for office. Neither is Hudak. We cannot afford to have a redux of the Mike Harris Common NonSense Revolution. Look at all the service cuts he made and the billions of dollars he wasted. Davis was a class act and I'm sure he was horrified when he saw how Harris was running things. I can easily say the Harris government made some of the worst decisions in the history of the province.
@mikefastener Dalton McGuinty is not fit to be premier as he is no longer trustworthy. Tim Hudak is not fit to be premier as his platform is essentially based on the return of Mike Harris' devastating Common (Non)Sense revolution. Since the Green Party is not popular enough to be elected the only choice in this election is Andrea Horwath. Enough said.
@mikefastener Have you anything remotely intelligent, civil, or useful to say? If not, please refrain from you trash-trolling which you obviously do at all hours of the day. Don't you have a job?
I'll respond to this one. Mikey clearly doesn't understand anything about proper research and using proper wording, what a surprise. Anyone can figure out with simple research that according to Government of Canada figures for 2011/12, Quebec ranks 4th and Ontario ranks 5th for per capita "equalization payments". For "transfer payments", Ontario receives the largest amount..just slightly more than Quebec..$17.4 billion and $17.7 billion.
Even though I am, like many of you, happy that the Bloc collapsed and that Duceppe quit, I can only be saddened, as a Quebecer and a French-speaking person, to see that some people in Canada seem to view the demise of the Bloc as a license to insult and demean Quebecers and French people. I have just one thing to say to these people: THIS IS OUR COUNTRY TOO ! PLEASE SHOW RESPECT.
@SickerThanThou I have one thing to say to the people of Quebec. THIS IS MY COUNTRY TOO! PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT. You are a conquered state (Wolfe 1759) and receive billions of $ from the rest Canada every year. Be grateful of our generosity. We are getting fed up with your temper tantrums.
@mikefastener I know the French were defeated by the British in 1759, I know my history. But can you tell me what the fuck that has to do with anything I said ? Oh, and by the way, Ontario actually receives more transfer payments than Quebec now. So it seems very funny to me how that whole "you guys are taking all of our money" argument only seems to apply to Quebec all the time, when other Eastern provinces also take billions of $ in transfer payments from the richer Western provinces.
@SickerThanThou Respect is a two-way street--that's what history has to do with it!
And, oh, Ontario receives more transfer payments than Quebec? Please give details. I believe Quebec receives the largest amount of transfer payments than ANY other province.
Please, don't run away when you find out I am right.
@mikefastener Actually, I was mistaken !! PEI is the province that gets the most transfer payments, with an astonishing 329 million $ for 2011-2012 fiscal year, all that for a population of barely 140 000 people. As a comparison, Quebec will receive about 7 million $ in the next year, for a population of about.... 7 million people ! Which means we only take about one dollar per citizen. But yeah, Quebecers are such parasites ! By the way, I do respect Canada and I do consider myself Canadian.
@SickerThanThou The stats I looked at showed PEI, NB, NS and Manitoba as the four highest provinces in regard to per capita equalization payments....very different than transfer payments....Transfer payments means all fund transfers from fed to prov, including equ payments... Ontario receives the most transfer payments...and Quebec is next...but they are very different in equalization payments... I will ignore the stupidity of mikefastener...... Quebec is #5 and Ontario is #6 in equ payments.
@SickerThanThou Funny part is that Mikey here posts on all kinds of sites. He's an incredibly prolific trash troll. Just google his username and you will see what I mean. I only post on Youtube....and you can verify that.. So much for his stupid claims (to be clear....LIES)...lol You may at times find Youtube comments posted elsewhere but that's a function of the Youtube video link being posted on another site...
@SickerThanThou I must say...and I repeat..it is absolutely hilarious that Mikey now lives in the province that receives the most transfer payments of any province. Not surprised..as Mikey gives the clear impression of someone who probably either screws his employer or his govt for money. He doesn't seem to be focussing on ANYTHING productive...that's for sure. Don't expect Mikey EVER to say anything that is worthwhile to respond to.. His lack of research is expected...and that's being nice.
@SickerThanThou LOL...Mikey is actually incredulous that he is actually lying in his ethnic putdowns of Canadians.....LOL Don't do his research for him... This guy is a total dumbass....who constantly spends his days trolling Youtube and spouting complete garbage....and total disrespect for Canadians who have any views different than his. Check out "Ignatieff Leads Liberals To Historical Defeat" for quite a complete picture of what this guy is all about. This one is funny.....LOL...
Most of NPD voter done it to restrain harper to get majority but thier move gone agains them and destroyed the 2 other party what an idiot vote poeples who don't even know actuality politic and able to understand it don't deserve the right to vote the sovereighty movement is far from dead even a defeated Liberal recently warned Canada about it How we can understand Canada moves when they want to give Canada money a part is from qc to help New Foundland for hydroelectricity to business agains QC.
Now i'm proud to be a quebecer. ESTI DE SÉPARATISTE !!! Hey peoples lets not forget that 55% + of the Quebecers never wanted a country and we are FRENCH CANADIAN.
Gilles Duceppe, always the word Québec in the mouth, even when it's about CANADA ELECTION...
I'm from Québec and Duceppe doesn't represent us, that's one reason why he failed. He should at least talk about Canada. Look at him, he saluted others leaders... hypocrisy all over for the camera... In every single debate, he became so mad, nobody want to listen to a mad man. Describe Duceppe in one word: mad.
The NDP girl taking his place doesn't talk french, is that ironic?
Why do you insist on keeping around a province that doesn't belong? I know, because you were brainwashed by the media into thinking those things about the Bloc and Quebec in general.
Everything canadian media says is meant to manipulate you. You are having the opinions the canadian government wants you to have.
The sovereignty movement has a right and a reason to exist. The sooner Quebec gets out, the sooner Canada will at last know true unity.
bringing out parrizeau was pure fucking gold. . . no better way to win an election than to remind people about "the english and ethic vote" what a fucking genius. . .
@xxqcpowerxx C'etait une blaque! Etre pas tres serieux dans la vie mon ami :)
zerounite 2 weeks ago
@xxqcpowerxx awwwwwwwwwwwwww did your feelings get hurt frenchy? fyi j'ai parle en 3 langues, pas comme toi :) french fries
zerounite 2 weeks ago
@xxqcpowerxx Ahhh enfin quequn qui pense comme du monde!
frankydoo11 2 weeks ago
Cya by!
1974Qball 1 month ago
The Bloc is pretty pathetic. However, all the racist tools who put all of Quebec in the same basket are just as pathetic, if not any more...
LolGui 1 month ago 2
Ribbit, ribbit. Ribbit, ribbit. Ribbit.
pittsky 2 months ago
@pittsky Oh, how fun! A racist conservative tool. Enjoy your prisons! They should make some asylums as well, so you could have a decent place to live in.
LolGui 1 month ago
It's because they think they are a superior race who needs nobody
fucking racists , fuck BQ !
BlackQuebecois 2 months ago
The whole goal of the bloc is for Quebec to become a country
ArmTriangleChoke 2 months ago
@xxqcpowerxx i dont speak sissy.
viper10011 4 months ago
the translator is obviously losing something
josie1839 4 months ago
As a liberal supporter in this election, the Duceppe's fall made my night. I'm still sad my riding got swept by the NDP
sonic2277 4 months ago
One thing that saddens me is that Duceppe resigned his position when solidarity within the party was most in need of his strength.
The voters who supported him deserved better from him.
There is a YT channel-holder who calls himself Little Doggie, with twin channels, Uneileuneville & CanadiansGoHome who preaches a tyranny against the will of the Quebecois &i nstead assumes a voice for our citizens & opposed to our views. He trolls YT seeking the opportunity to defame our people with his lies
4BlocksE2ndOnRight 4 months ago
The Bloc....just bitchy French
gopconservative78 5 months ago
@gopconservative78 fuck canada
lepouceux 4 months ago
@lepouceux fuck you. cocksucking fascist leech
kidkappa04 4 months ago
The "Commie Bloc"
antiredv 5 months ago
Not proud of a government '' investing '' 35 BILLIONS into little toys airplanes and to defend other countries and never helping Quebec since 1867. Even with a 10% handicap, we still a proud country and don't whine Canadiens about perequation cause if you look closer at the stats you'll find that in term of perequation per citizen Quebec receive a normal income from the government.
Soo we must give a cow to the government (already done)with the milk? What about our bridge made of cheap ciment?
xXQuebecRebelXx 5 months ago
@xXQuebecRebelXx I'm surely not anti-Quebec....but to state that Quebec hasn't been helped since 1867 is pure bs. Quebec is the largest recipient of equalization payments...and it has been that way for many years. I'm close to 50 years old...and I've seen many concessions towards Quebec over many years...especially back in the days of Levesque. Every province can bitch about something in regard to federal politics...and Quebec is no different...
paulfornasier 2 weeks ago
Good riddance....treasonous scum!
toastichedu 6 months ago
5:36 "But we can do WITHOUT YOU!!" LMAO!!!
blocknards 6 months ago
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You make me sick
KimJongill911 6 months ago
Quebec....sissy French and a bunch of whiners
gopconservative78 6 months ago
@gopconservative78 awesome! biggotry, oh how i miss you trolls
ziomany 6 months ago
a federal party that only represents quebec what a joke.
viper10011 6 months ago 22
@viper10011
Yeah, that's a really good point.
Bllasae 6 months ago
@viper10011 lol might be well said but you still have to admit that Duceppe was a good politician.
crunk4124 5 months ago
@viper10011 At least we've got something to represent us.. As small as it could be... Even if I don't want Quebec and Canada to be separated I think that all he want to do is protect the only french talking province in Canada..
fab123411 3 months ago
@viper10011 yep, we shall leave soon.
TooLateProductions 4 weeks ago
Planet of the Idiots.
OnlineAutoAuctions 7 months ago
If I was him, I would have wore a showercap.
Friedtoenails 7 months ago
when they were cheering all i heard was DOUCHBAG DOUCHBAG DOUCHBAG ... lol
zerounite 7 months ago 12
@zerounite You didn't understand obviously. I listened closely and heard DUCEPPE DUCEPPE DUCEPPE
SuperToyotaLexus 1 month ago
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paulfornasier 8 months ago
As someone from Ontario I'm gonna miss Duceppe and the Bloc, we need more diverse voices in parliament, not less.
relazar 8 months ago
Touts ceux qui envoient leur message de haine envers les séparatistes je les ai tous lu et vous etes tous une bande dignorant,
PWN3R3D 8 months ago
There is no such thing as a socialist hero, they are all loonie lefties and the asshole in quebec traded one for another.
The stupid people in quebec sould have elected a stop sign if it was orange and not red.
It is strange that voters in quebec could be so ignorant of the real world. The world is not just quebec you assholes.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 haha.. You from Ontario??
lepouceux 8 months ago
@lepouceux yes
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 well, iam not suprise.. I live in Montréal.. Born and raise.. Il also live in B.C 5 mounths a year for the past 9 years.. Iam a separatist.. I dont want Quebec to seperate cause i hate Canada.. I want to seperate cause i Love Quebec.. I hate the way you tink about Quebec.. Is Barcelone want to seperate from Spaine cause they are ignorants? Is Basque country want to seperate from France AND spain cause they are ignorants? Is Norten irland, etc, etc, etc, cause someone is ignorant?
lepouceux 8 months ago
@lepouceux I also was born in Montreal however I have lived all over this great country. I spent 13 years in B.C. and a couple in the maritimes.
I am a Canadian, the province that I live in makes no difference to me, I am just a Canadian. I have no prefix before Canadian, I am just a Canadian period.
Quebec has been given so much that they think they are different, they are not, just spoiled by the rest of Canada. If you separate, you will have to give back northern Quebec, that's ours.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 northen Quebec is ours, also the labrador.. Dude, learn your history...
lepouceux 8 months ago
@lepouceux No way, that was a gift for joining confederation and if you leave, we get James bay. Sounds like a good deal to me.
Strange, in these days of global ideas, Quebec is still thinking in terms of tribal. Quebec would be a island in the north american continent and both the States and Canada would impose large tariffs against it for being so stupid.
Your idea of separation is over, the youth of today just want a good job and a good life, they don't want your pipe dream and debt.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@lepouceux Quebec is on the recieving side of over 9 billion dollars a year and how would you get that if you were a separate country. I will tell you, very high taxes and you are the highest in Canada now.
There would be the cost of setting up your money, passports, post office and the cost of medicare would be all yours where as Canada pays for half now.
The St. Lawrence seaway is Canada's so you would have to pay us to use it, you would become Haiti of the north.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 Where do you get the $9 billion figure from? Remember that the Post Office is currently profitable...not costing Canada ANYTHING... LOL...Canada pays for half for medicare...where does statement come from?? ...get your thinking straight before you spout crap. Yes,...there are consequences but you are spouting mostly ignorance here...LOL. I think senility is setting in.... Yes...they would have to deal with the balance of equalization payments...and that's really it...
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@paulfornasier Do you really think that Quebec would just take over all the federal buildings in Quebec? They would have to pay for them or they would be torn down, just like the troops are doing now in Afghanistan.
The Federal government gives the provinces X number of dollars every year for medicare and that amount is increased by 6.1% every year, it covers about half the cost of the provinces medicare bills. Your separatest brain is blocked by ignorance and hate.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@paulfornasier Another thing you do not take into account is that the rest of Canada would stop buying products made in Quebec because they would be pissed off with the spoiled brats.
Quebec companies that now work in other Canadian provinces would not be allowed after separation.
Your standard of living would be cut in half over night, and we would laugh at you all the way to the bank.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 Any kind of lashback wouldn't last long....and so where does that medicare money come from that the feds give them??? And you are a fucking idiot to label me as a separatist, as you have no idea who I am...PERIOD. Ya...and buildings will be torn down...LOL. Yes..they would have to pay for them. That is acknowledged..but they might not even need them all.. Quebec already manages much of it's own taxation. I'm not advocating separatism...but i'm debunking idiots like yourself.
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 If your mind is too frail to figure it out...medicare payments come from federal taxes....LOL. Was that too diffcult to figure out?? So..who will now collect those taxes???...LOL. Equaliazation payments are the difference...PERIOD!! They have already managed alot of their own trade...as they are french speaking...so they have strong ties to France ..and other french speaking nations. Yes..they would need to manage additional things...but necessity is the mother of invention..
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@paulfornasier The last referendum millions of Canadian fought to save Quebec and I promise you if there is a yet another, very few Canadians will try. The feeling now is fuck off, we don't need you, you are nothing but spoiled brats and need to learn a hard truth.
Even now, Quebec still causes problems for Canadians, Newfoundland has to build an underwater line to the maritimes because Quebec won't allow their power through it's lines. Real shits and trouble makers.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 You are speaking for yourself. You have no idea what Canadians will do in regard to Quebec. No Canadian wants to see Canada split up. Both Quebec AND Canada will lose significantly on breakup. This is why any kind of backlash wouldn't last long. And this where bashing Quebec doesn't serve anyone. Trudeau had it right by taking a firm nationalist stance,,,,but never stepping over the line and bashing them as Harper has done. This kind of stupidity only enhances separatism desire.
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@paulfornasier I was a member of the reform party and I can tell you that every meeting I attended the biggest complaint was about Quebec getting everything from Ottawa and the west getting nothing. Quebec is the biggest basher of Alberta's oilsands project, I wonder why?
Quebec has the most crooked government in Canada all they want is to line their pockets with federal money.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 Like I said, Quebec is number 5 on equalization per capita.....behind Manitoba, NS, NB, and PEI. The bashing clearly goes both ways. I'm on Youtube a fair amount...and the Albertans are CONSTANTLY bashing Quebec...especially Harper supporters. The bashing is really endless...and you are one of them for sure... This is ignorant politics on both sides.. it's the pettiness of regional parties...and the CPC is sinking it self back into regional party status with it's stupidity.
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 Look at what the CPC has done to itself in Quebec. They have lost ANY chance to gain seats there...as the Quebec vote is clearly about "anything but Harper". They are now bound to Ontario....and can't afford to ever lose support there. If Ontario voters shift at all, then they are back to being a regional party again. Is that good politics?? And the rhetoric starts at the top. If separatism revives...who is to blame right now?? A polarity creates another polarity....
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 I live in BC and I think our govt is incredibly crooked...and Ontarians feel the same about theirs. I don't give a shit about Alberta and Quebec...and most BC people don't either. We have our own problems. The bashing is mostly between Alberta....the economic power in Canada at this moment...and they focus on bashing Quebec.... This is so clear...and it's ignorance...more about ego, than good politics... Bashing the oil sands comes from all over Canada and the world...
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@paulfornasier How can you honestly speak for most people in BC?
TheTurc182 7 months ago
@TheTurc182 Read the context....do you think that many people in BC are into bashing Alberta and/or Quebec? My experience is that this is not true. Most BC'ers I meet have enough to deal with BC politics and economic matters...without having to go about bashing other provinces such as Alberta or Quebec. Do you differ on that?
paulfornasier 7 months ago
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@justanoldman1 Harper is taking on this stupid Alberta economic superiority stance....and hurting Canada with his arrogance.. Just wait a century or so, when oil is no longer a big source of revenue.....and see what a wasteland Alberta will be...especially isolated in the centre of a large land mass.... The mentality will change.... I have no respect for a politician who has no vision past his own nose...and gaining power...
paulfornasier 8 months ago 2
@justanoldman1 Regarding the Churchill Falls deal with Newfoundland, it had nothing to do with separatism....but was really about money. I've always been a huge supporter of Danny Williams.... I wish he would move into federal politics, as I like his style better than any current leader in our Parliament. I agree that Hydro Quebec did not negotiate fairly. Are they the only govt corp that has acted unethically?? Not likely.. There are many examples of bad behaviour...especially with hydro.
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@lepouceux Not everyone is ignorant, just the separatests.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@lepouceux I hate separatist, I think of them as traitors to my country and if I had my way, you and your kind would be tried and jailed for life. I think a nice prision in Antartica would do just fine and you would have to live off the land, ha ha.
My family still lives in Quebec and most quebecers think you guys are insane and a throwback to stoneage man from the tribal past. Ignorant of the modern global times and like the village idiot.
justanoldman1 8 months ago
@justanoldman1 Keep in mind that a greater and greater part of Canada's wealth now comes from oil. Even Ontario has dipped into "have not" status along with Manitoba and all of the maritime provinces (except Newfoundland). Quebec is number 5 in regard to per capita equalization payments. Alberta's GDP is now more than 1.5 times Ontario's gdp. The vast majority of equalization is just a transfer from Alberta to the rest of Canada. That will change over time...as fuel sources have to change..
paulfornasier 8 months ago
@lepouceux No.. we want to be seperate cause we love our difference.. Not cause we hate Canadians.. Comment slike yours just make me want to seperate more.. even if i live in B.C half of the year, and even if my best friend is from Sudbury, Ontario.. In your comment, YOU are ignorant..
lepouceux 8 months ago
@lepouceux HAPPY CANADA DAY
justanoldman1 8 months ago
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run away
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Mikefastener has run away
My fair YouTube.
gricer1326 8 months ago
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@gricer1326 Folks, no more e-mails pleeeeease! I know grocer is a child. I know grocer is good friends with Anne Horwath! I know grocer will not respond to questions because grocer can't answer. (TCHC happened on Mr. Ford's watch--what hypocrisy!)
Oh well, I know many on the left wing are getting angry because grocer makes you look so bad! (Uninformed, can't debate, emotions, swearing, a child-like creature with tantrums.)
Please settle your arguments with yourselves!
mikefastener 8 months ago
Folks, the guy judging me for "lying" can't tell the difference between a transfer payment and an equalization payment. Pathetic.
gricer1326 8 months ago
Thumbs up if mikefastener and people like him are not wanted on YouTube.
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@gricer1326 Amazing that grocer wants to continue to lie (notice no response to the Mr. Martin classy comment--grocer needs to look up the term, "classy"). Oh well, we'll leave grocer to the basement while Canada's party is having a convention.
Stop your lies grocer; otherwise, I'll have to correct you!
"Fair minded Canadians spreading the truth"...this is how Mr. Harper won his majority.
mikefastener 8 months ago
Quebec...nothing but a shithole of French Sissies.....who gives a damn about this worthless Province.........
gopconservative78 8 months ago
@gopconservative78 Wow, that's not an unsubstantiated, unprovoked, violent, derogatory, crass, offensive comment. I wonder where that came from. I wonder if your screen name has anything to do with it. Can't be...
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 your scum stink and when your worthless Province breaks loose, we Americans will take the rest
gopconservative78 8 months ago
@gopconservative78 Maybe you know something I don't I wasn't aware Ontario wanted to separate. As for Americans taking over the rest, I think you guys already tried that and as far as I recall it didn't really work out too well for you. Of course I suppose, considering you values it's likely too much to ask of you to know some simple history. Pathetic.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Quebec just bitches and moans about everything......No Wonder the Bloc lost 43 seats
gopconservative78 8 months ago
@gopconservative78 I hope you realize how funny that sounds. The NDP has replace the Bloc as the party of choice in Québec because that's what Québecers wanted. They decide who represents them. None of the rest of us do.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Amazing of this Wiener issue in the US. This disgraced Democratic politician’s crime was sending questionable pictures over the net to adult women. Jack Laydown? Found naked in a common bawdy house where underage women and women of colour were present. Somehow NDP (Nude Democratic Party) supporters think this is okay?
Looks like our American friends have higher standards than some of us!
No need to respond...the facts are the facts!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Bad week for Tim Hudak, just as he's about to reveal his campaign playbook he gets blasted with a scandal himself, interestingly one of his MPs did the same thing Wiener allegedly did! Now this is just interesting.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 So you say that one of Mr. Hudak's people get blasted about the same thing as Wiener did. Therefore, I must assume you agree how low NDP standards are to accept someone (Jack Laydown) found in a common bawdy house with under-age women!
Glad you are now seeing the light!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener I react differently to stories that are unaffected by the "thrill of the spin". you should know that by now.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Still no comment on Wiener vs Laydown?
How could you compare? That Laydown character is certainly "a piece of work".
Just pointing out the facts...
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener If the story of Layton's massage parlour "incident" as you tell it were true, i might react differently. Otherwise it means absolutely nothing. As for the picture of Wiener's wiener, i would say that's inappropriate. I would also say that neoCON MP's "questionable picture" is inappropriate. Do you not agree?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 I have no idea of what MP's (you actually claimed it to be a MPP's picture in you last post--maybe something to do with your Anne Horvath claim? Why can't you wingers keep your facts straight?).
Oh well....what about my so called Jack "incident" is not true?
Go ahead grocer....for what, the 30th time, I've called you out?
(This is getting good folks.)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Your version of the event is different from what actually happened. According to you, the police broke in, they found significant evidence of the provision of sexual services and Jack was reprimanded for committing an offence. According to the police report, they raided the place, Jack was there, the masseuse was leaving the room, they told him that the establishment was shady and that he shouldn't get his massages there. Very different story, even the neoCON rag Sun media agrees!
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 I afraid you are lying, again. The police considered charging Jack (Jack Laydown of the Nude Democratic Party); but, backed off. Read the article detailing the FULL notes of the police officer. (Not the sections that you selectively piece together.)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Did they? I don't think so.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Did they? Yes, they did!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener No, they did not charge him, mikey! If you had done your homework you would know that.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Once they found out he was a Toronto Counsellor, they did not charge him.
Can you believe such disgusting behaviour to use his political position on a police officer?
Oh well, Jack Laydown knows no shame.
Agree?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Was he charged? I didn't think so either.
And yes, "councillor" and "counsellor" are two different things!
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 I agree! Shameful that Jack Laydown used his position to avoid a police charge!
We are starting to agree.
(Happy with your progress!)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener It doesn't matter. He still was not charged, there's no two ways about it.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 "he still was not charged"--how disgusting to use his status to get out of a charge!
Only wish we common people has Jack boy's influence.
Just the facts....as always...
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Was he charged or not mikey?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 I agree! Disgusting that Jack-boy (Jack Laydown) used his influence not to be charged!
How is that search for his medical claim coming?......
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener My question: "Was he charged or not, mikey?"
Your answer: "I agree!"
I mean, how much more pathetic can you possible get?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 "how much more pathetic"?
A politician using his position to get out of a charge of being found in a bawdy house.
That must be the lowest of the low!
Thanks for the opportunity to clarify.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener That story is really the only argument you have eh mikey!
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 grocer--are you getting at "Jack Laydown" letting you down?
lolol
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Hey mikey, I hear Andrea wants to get rid of the HST. Your thoughts?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Andrea getting rid of the HST? Okay, seriously, where will the revenue come from to make it up?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Why didn't you ask FRod that same question about the vehicle registration tax when you elected him?
Hypocrite.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Sorry grocer--but; you are the hypocrite!
The amount of waste in Toronto is disgusting!!! From that Housing Corporation to the $200,000 rain water toilet at the CNE. Toronto needs a "kick in the ass" and get its books in order.
The HST is a huge provincial budget revenue item. You are now defending it. It is up to you to tell us the revenue loss and how it will be made up.
Ball is now in your court! pauly-boy is gone (shamed by me, btw).
Your response?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener So your solution to getting rid of this "waste" is to abandon a source of revenue? I'm sorry, that makes no fucking sense at all. If you love the HST so much you'd better not vote for Hudak, he wants to get rid of it too. I know exactly where paulfornasier is, he's on"Laura Ingraham takes down smarmy Chris Matthews" and he's beating the shit out of you. What, do you think i fell off a turnip truck? Honestly! Grow up.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 grocer your use of profanity betrays you! "f------g", "s----"--I never use these words because I am above them and can easily get a message across without them. You should be ashamed.
pauly lied on the other site. I quoted a CBC reference showing pauly to be a liar. He is getting increasingly agitated as he is being challenged by posters. I am firmly in control--pauly is not "beating the s--- out of me".
My debating skills and knowledge actually make you the child.
Agreed?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Aren't you a prude! Your argument is about a sound as a full martini glass balanced on an exercise ball, not a surprise you're flailing so stupidly. Your use of insults and lack of facts has lost you a great deal of credibility. You are not wanted here, a lot of people agree! î î î î î î î
gricer1326 8 months ago
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@gricer1326 "A lot of people agree"? A lot of people hate the facts.
You and pauly-boy are pathetic.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener I'd like to add that the TCHC incident happened well after the election.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 The TCHC incident happened during miller-boys watch. It only became exposed after Mr. Ford stepped in as mayor and started, "turning over the rocks" so-to-speak to stop the gravy train.
(And the TCHC was certainly a great gravy train under miller-boy.)
Agreed?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener regardless, TCHC is still an essential service. Unless somebody comes up with a better alternative it will remain city-owned and operated. Any thoughts? (Thoughts? Gee, I just remembered who I'm talking to).
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 You just claimed the TCHC happened on Mr. Ford's watch. I just (easily btw) have proven you wrong.
Do you agree?
(Your change of subject, grocer, makes you again look, pathetic.)
We can get into funding once you admit the facts....
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener I'll throw you a bone this time mikey, if it helps you debate civilly.
gricer1326 8 months ago
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@gricer1326 "debate civilly".
And you have a problem with you attempt to debate without your profanity!
Oh grocer...this is getting boring....like you!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener I see civil debate is a lost cause here. I only curse to enforce a point where necessary. Look back and you'll find maybe two or three posts in which I say such things. You and your insistence on insulting people is a far worse offence that dropping a single f-bomb, stay on topic, please.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@mikefastener Your posts keep getting flagged. Really shows what people think about you.
gricer1326 8 months ago
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@gricer1326 Deal is done--many are laughing at you and are asking me why I bother...
You will not respond to simple questions--I assume you have no answers.
Your left-wingers friends are begging me to stop. It seems you are embarrassing them.
Oh well, we adults are moving on.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Which questions?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@mikefastener Funny how you should criticize me for the Anne/Andrea mixup when you keep spelling her last name wrong.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 You are the one who worships the left-wingers (and should therefore, know Andrea's--not Anne's--name).
I don't concern myself with pipsqueaks like Andrea. Same for this Adam Vague(?) guy in Toronto that you constantly talk about.
Mr. Harper's, Mr. Ford’s and soon to be Mr. Hudak's leadership is what is important.
I'm sure you must agree!
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener You are simply pathetic. There have been previous governments from all parties that I have been proud of. The conservative government of Bill Davis was, in my opinion, a class act, while the Mike Harris government was an embarrassment for Ontario. Hudak is merely a redux of Harris. While it's true McGuinty is the lesser of the two evils neither of them should be remotely considered to lead Ontario. By process of elimination we arrive at the NDP as our party of choice.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Sad person....why do you impose (look it up if you need to) your sadness on others?
Dalton McLier is an embarrassment to all voters in Ontario. Bill Davis? Someone who would allow the public service to go wild with wage demands and therefore allow the deficit to explode.
I am so happy we have some common sense in all levels of gov't--provincially soon.
Aren’t you?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener I agree with you. McGuinty is not fit for office. Neither is Hudak. We cannot afford to have a redux of the Mike Harris Common NonSense Revolution. Look at all the service cuts he made and the billions of dollars he wasted. Davis was a class act and I'm sure he was horrified when he saw how Harris was running things. I can easily say the Harris government made some of the worst decisions in the history of the province.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Agreed....Dalton McLier is not worthy of being Premier.
The only other choice must be Mr. Hudak.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Dalton McGuinty is not fit to be premier as he is no longer trustworthy. Tim Hudak is not fit to be premier as his platform is essentially based on the return of Mike Harris' devastating Common (Non)Sense revolution. Since the Green Party is not popular enough to be elected the only choice in this election is Andrea Horwath. Enough said.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Agreed silly grocer.
Enough said.
OH! You said that about Mr. Ford and Mr. Harper.
Wow! You must agree that you have very little credibility!
Just an observation....
(BTW…is it Anne or Andrea? You seem to have problems with that.)
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Have you anything remotely intelligent, civil, or useful to say? If not, please refrain from you trash-trolling which you obviously do at all hours of the day. Don't you have a job?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Poooor grocer! Angry at the truth?
Oh well, Mr. Ford and Mr. Harper taught you a good lesson.
Agreed?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Nothing at all, eh? Sad. So sad.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 "Sad. So sad." That Canadian voters have spoken?
I call it democracy! Learn the term.
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Interesting reply, mostly because it has nothing to do with the comment you're attempting to reply to.
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 ??????????
mikefastener 8 months ago
@gricer1326 "They decide who represents them"; however, the ROC has to PAY the way!!!
Maybe the people of Quebec have learned a valuable lesson now that Mr. Harper has a majority without their support?
I am sure they will begin more cooperation and stop whining.
Will the left-wingers also learn? Only time will tell.
Glad to clarify things for everyone....
mikefastener 8 months ago
Ah yes, more stupidity from mikey. Everyone should now know why he is unwanted by most.
gricer1326 8 months ago
I'll respond to this one. Mikey clearly doesn't understand anything about proper research and using proper wording, what a surprise. Anyone can figure out with simple research that according to Government of Canada figures for 2011/12, Quebec ranks 4th and Ontario ranks 5th for per capita "equalization payments". For "transfer payments", Ontario receives the largest amount..just slightly more than Quebec..$17.4 billion and $17.7 billion.
gricer1326 8 months ago
Maybe Quebecers want to stay in Canada after all.
altfactor 9 months ago
Even though I am, like many of you, happy that the Bloc collapsed and that Duceppe quit, I can only be saddened, as a Quebecer and a French-speaking person, to see that some people in Canada seem to view the demise of the Bloc as a license to insult and demean Quebecers and French people. I have just one thing to say to these people: THIS IS OUR COUNTRY TOO ! PLEASE SHOW RESPECT.
SickerThanThou 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou I have one thing to say to the people of Quebec. THIS IS MY COUNTRY TOO! PLEASE SHOW SOME RESPECT. You are a conquered state (Wolfe 1759) and receive billions of $ from the rest Canada every year. Be grateful of our generosity. We are getting fed up with your temper tantrums.
Agreed?
mikefastener 9 months ago
@mikefastener I know the French were defeated by the British in 1759, I know my history. But can you tell me what the fuck that has to do with anything I said ? Oh, and by the way, Ontario actually receives more transfer payments than Quebec now. So it seems very funny to me how that whole "you guys are taking all of our money" argument only seems to apply to Quebec all the time, when other Eastern provinces also take billions of $ in transfer payments from the richer Western provinces.
SickerThanThou 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou Respect is a two-way street--that's what history has to do with it!
And, oh, Ontario receives more transfer payments than Quebec? Please give details. I believe Quebec receives the largest amount of transfer payments than ANY other province.
Please, don't run away when you find out I am right.
mikefastener 9 months ago
@mikefastener Actually, I was mistaken !! PEI is the province that gets the most transfer payments, with an astonishing 329 million $ for 2011-2012 fiscal year, all that for a population of barely 140 000 people. As a comparison, Quebec will receive about 7 million $ in the next year, for a population of about.... 7 million people ! Which means we only take about one dollar per citizen. But yeah, Quebecers are such parasites ! By the way, I do respect Canada and I do consider myself Canadian.
SickerThanThou 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou I am sorry--but; you must mean 8 BILLION, not 8 million.
Agreed?
mikefastener 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou The stats I looked at showed PEI, NB, NS and Manitoba as the four highest provinces in regard to per capita equalization payments....very different than transfer payments....Transfer payments means all fund transfers from fed to prov, including equ payments... Ontario receives the most transfer payments...and Quebec is next...but they are very different in equalization payments... I will ignore the stupidity of mikefastener...... Quebec is #5 and Ontario is #6 in equ payments.
paulfornasier 9 months ago
@paulfornasier Actually, pauly-boy...Quebec receives the highest amount of transfer payments of any province.
(I am getting sick and tired of correcting your shameful left-wingnut lies.)
No wonder Canadian voters rejected your parties.
How about showing some class for once? Paul Martin did. Why can't you?
Interesting question, don't you think?
mikefastener 8 months ago
@mikefastener Sick of it eh? Maybe a good time to, i don't know, stop?
gricer1326 8 months ago
@gricer1326 Interesting comment about stopping!
Are you saying you will stop your lies, distortions and half-truths about Mr. Ford and Mr. Harper?
(Don't forget, Paul Martin said that Canadian voters are never wrong...time for you to show some class?)
Your next response will say it all. (Unless you run away again as you have in the past when confronted.)
Next move is yours......(don't disappoint).
mikefastener 8 months ago
@SickerThanThou Funny part is that Mikey here posts on all kinds of sites. He's an incredibly prolific trash troll. Just google his username and you will see what I mean. I only post on Youtube....and you can verify that.. So much for his stupid claims (to be clear....LIES)...lol You may at times find Youtube comments posted elsewhere but that's a function of the Youtube video link being posted on another site...
paulfornasier 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou Isn't your answer closer to 7 BILLION? (Not 7 million.)
mikefastener 8 months ago
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paulfornasier 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou I must say...and I repeat..it is absolutely hilarious that Mikey now lives in the province that receives the most transfer payments of any province. Not surprised..as Mikey gives the clear impression of someone who probably either screws his employer or his govt for money. He doesn't seem to be focussing on ANYTHING productive...that's for sure. Don't expect Mikey EVER to say anything that is worthwhile to respond to.. His lack of research is expected...and that's being nice.
paulfornasier 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou LOL...Mikey is actually incredulous that he is actually lying in his ethnic putdowns of Canadians.....LOL Don't do his research for him... This guy is a total dumbass....who constantly spends his days trolling Youtube and spouting complete garbage....and total disrespect for Canadians who have any views different than his. Check out "Ignatieff Leads Liberals To Historical Defeat" for quite a complete picture of what this guy is all about. This one is funny.....LOL...
paulfornasier 9 months ago
@paulfornasier Pauly boy will try to cause trouble in any debate. Without facts, with insults, pauly-boy has been thrown out of many sites.
Okay pauly....tell us which sites have had enough of your silliness....
I know you are "intellgent" enough to know!!!
mikefastener 9 months ago
@SickerThanThou Funny that the person who runs away is this insolent mikefastener guy....LOL
paulfornasier 9 months ago
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This was a sad day for Quebec politics. A socialist hero Gilles will be missed. A great debater and never afraid to talk his mind.
TheSocialistHero 9 months ago
This is was a sad day for Quebec politics. A socialist hero Gilles will be missed. A great debater and never afraid to talk his mind.
TheSocialistHero 9 months ago 12
BLOC IS DEAD!
1988scottcarey 9 months ago
Harper wins... flawless victory.
Tylvalen 9 months ago
Thank god the Bloc is dead.
WingsRed1919 9 months ago
Quebec just like the French...always surrender
gopconservative78 9 months ago
I am from Quebec and I am disgusted by this leader and the cancer he has caused Quebec and Canada. Now they have less seats than my car.
viral880911 9 months ago
Most of NPD voter done it to restrain harper to get majority but thier move gone agains them and destroyed the 2 other party what an idiot vote poeples who don't even know actuality politic and able to understand it don't deserve the right to vote the sovereighty movement is far from dead even a defeated Liberal recently warned Canada about it How we can understand Canada moves when they want to give Canada money a part is from qc to help New Foundland for hydroelectricity to business agains QC.
Yvory6 9 months ago
4 seats too many. They deserved ZERO seats.
itsalleternal 9 months ago
I LOVE CANADA AND QUEBEC! AND I AM PROUD TO SAY THAT MY FRENCH FAMILY HATES THE SEPARATISTS!! J'adore le Quebec, fuck les separatistes!!
Kelertasable 9 months ago
Now i'm proud to be a quebecer. ESTI DE SÉPARATISTE !!! Hey peoples lets not forget that 55% + of the Quebecers never wanted a country and we are FRENCH CANADIAN.
MJFanatic96 9 months ago
Gilles Duceppe, always the word Québec in the mouth, even when it's about CANADA ELECTION...
I'm from Québec and Duceppe doesn't represent us, that's one reason why he failed. He should at least talk about Canada. Look at him, he saluted others leaders... hypocrisy all over for the camera... In every single debate, he became so mad, nobody want to listen to a mad man. Describe Duceppe in one word: mad.
The NDP girl taking his place doesn't talk french, is that ironic?
He failed all over
WayofLiving1 9 months ago
@BizzMarki @sweiland75 @phlyersphan25 @BeaverOwl
Why do you insist on keeping around a province that doesn't belong? I know, because you were brainwashed by the media into thinking those things about the Bloc and Quebec in general.
Everything canadian media says is meant to manipulate you. You are having the opinions the canadian government wants you to have.
The sovereignty movement has a right and a reason to exist. The sooner Quebec gets out, the sooner Canada will at last know true unity.
howiloggedin 9 months ago
bringing out parrizeau was pure fucking gold. . . no better way to win an election than to remind people about "the english and ethic vote" what a fucking genius. . .
jonnoble53 9 months ago