Science and God...why cant they be the same? I dont see my higher power as a being that just poofs things into place. Why cant the creation of the universe or evolution be apart of a creator? Science, to me at least, strengthens the idea of a higher power, not disproving it. Look Im not trying to "preach" or convert you, because frankly, I dont have the answers but you gave your point of view so Im giving you mine...my best friend is an Athiest.
OK, you are right, through about half of that video. Religion is bull and can be dangerous. I believe in a higher power but cant stand religion. But then you start saying that religous people dont care about the world? the curch I used to go to as a child used to do charity and pick up trash on the side of the road. I dont want to world to end, I want to see my baby grow up. God would do somethig by now if he really existed? its called freedom, we have it, thats why this world is shit.
When you say "religious people" are you ignorantly referring to people subscribing to organised religion based on the Jewish god YWHW? (ie. Jews, Christians, Muslims). Do you understand that there are many more religions in the world than these? It's a bit ironic I think that you speak so ignorantly whilst calling others the same.
@maxergud There is a stark difference between speculation as to what she may or may not mean and the reality of what she is actually saying. But even if your speculation were true she'd still be generalising the situation.
Okay Religion is a good thing the concept of religion as a whole is a good thing you just get a bad apple every so often . you could say the same about atheists every so often you get a bad apple. but saying that either side is ignorant is ignorant in itself because no one "alive" knows for sure which side is wrong or right its a faith thing whither you chose to believe in the flying t-rex or mount mordor who says anyone has the all knowing power to say otherwise.
@BumJungle Anti-theism is the hatred of religion as a whole. It doesn't discriminate. Anti-theists think all religions are inherently destructive and evil. All atheists sign on to is the position that there is no God. But don't take my word for it...look it for yourself...that's what I always do when I run into these type of questions. Hope this helps and have a good day =)
@slimjimmy149 Look at this - even we 'skeptics' disagree on the definitions theists place upon our (lack of) a belief system. I prefer the label "Pantheist. At least it makes them Google and work it out for themselves ;-)
And as far as my comment calling her stupid goes, she claims that religious people are violent. Im religious and Im not violent, neither are my family and friends. And chances are the people in her family are religious-I wonder if she would call them violent? That's pretty stupid.
@airman122469 you know what, I think it funny that anytime I disagree with someone they call me an ignorant fuck. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me stupid. So go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.
@airman122469 you know what, I think it funny that anytime I disagree with someone they call me an ignorant fuck. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me stupid. So go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.
Nice video =). You made some very good points. I hope that you continue to spread the truth so that more people may be empowered to open their eyes to reality before this ever growing cloud of delusion destroys the world as we know it for good.
Nice one you are very right Divaofdarkness! I don't think you aren't healthy, like some religious retards on here. I think your pretty, keep speaking up! I'm with ya! Consistent thoughts and belief. You wanna believe in something believe the whole thing! Totally agree! As a side note, the BMI, it's bullshit!
Without religion we wouldn't have any standards of moral values. And I think it so funny that people use the old testament to 'prove' that religious people are violent. Look around idiot. Willful ignorance? Ignore reality and scientific facts? I don't ignore those...the more design you find through science the better for me! Go ahead...show me complexity...show me design. Proud creationists here! You are the one who needs the reality check....seriously.
@ready2escape You are seriously retarded. Humans had moral standards WAY before religion. Piranhas don't eat each other and have a concept of sharing, that's a moral standard in nature. Wolves have pack leaders, have punishments for attacking fellow wolves, and also have a concept of sharing. Do animals have religion? Or is it just natural for social animals to act...oh I don't know...socially? Pick up a fucking textbook you ignorant fuck.
I agree with almost everything you said with one exception. The religious seem pretty bent out of shape when people take it up the ass. I'm just sayin'.
@divaofdarkness, I noticed that all the top comments and comments above it are insults. Know that they're the ignorant jackasses you're talking about here, and please don't listen to them. They couldn't come up with anything more creative than you're fat, twinkie, and bald.
I don't know if I consider myself an atheist.. I don't believe in religion really... I think instead of believing in god, we should all believe in ourselves. However I do understand that it can be quite different for someone who has lived in a different situation. I think a god or numerous gods could exist... Just, haven't found proof. However I don't think any religion on earth or any people truly know the real answer. So for that reason, I think religions are mostly just silly cults & gangs...
Well apparently the explaination you gave about mutation was a complete lie sence you keep asking me so tell me the truth this time. As for Valid and Certified "Yes". Funded by America, Asian and Europe and Yes it is very real so please explain mutation sense you first explanation was wrong.
why dont religious people stop preaching? maybe the rest of the world would like you to sit-down at the global breakfast table and have a cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP
@greysquid1 I do have manners.It's obvious she is bashing people that do not have her ideals,and ideas.There are many MANY people RELIGIOUS people who feed the hungry,cloth and house the poor.What has THIS INDIVIDUAL DONE (meaning actively done and not just ran her mouth) to save the environment,help others ect ect ect? It's OBVIOUS she is overweight! Sorry not rude but it's an observation ;) If you can't take it in don't dish it out.
@layhayla yes and many who are absolute CUNTS like yourself, who DONT know when to keep their mouths SHUT! take YOUR own advice, dont dish the shit out if you cant take it! you're sitting there slagging her off, if shes overweight so fuck! what has it got to do with you? does it personally affect YOU? NO then shut up! i stand by my original thoughts, religious people are the biggest hypocrites you can imagine, your religions have caused all this evil, fuck off!
@layhayla "There are many MANY people RELIGIOUS people who feed the hungry,cloth and house the poor." It is very possible to do those things without religion. Still religions have caused more problems than solved anyway so your argument fails.
@layhayla You have a problem with making a valid sound argument so rather than make coherent sense so you resort to ad-hominem fallacies because you are nothing more than a pathetic being?
@layhayla ya that sounds about christian. i actually just prayed that the lord will give you lung cancer real soon, then typed that on my fb as a prayer and asked friends to repost.
Because beliefs informs actions. If you pollute your mind with the idea of an afterlife you might do something that you wouldn't ordinarily do. For example, if you think Americans are "evil" you might hijack a plane and crash it into a skyscraper thinking that you'll get rewarded with some eternal paradise. And that's why I fucking hate religion. It specializes in hatred, self-righteousness, bigotry, complacency, and brainwashing.
In my opinion, we shouldn't shut-up (I'm agnostic actually) because back then like.... ANCIENT GREEKS let's say. They created "Gods" to exlains things they couldn't understand. NOW we have something called SCIENCE to prove what we didn't know before.
You shut up. You religious nuts go around, filling people's heads with stories from a book of lies. Science has given us stuff, like your computer. What have religion given us? Fights and wars, people praying not doing, wasted time on Sundays, stupidity, etc. lol
Most poeple pick religion because it makes them feel safe. If your on your death bed, wouldn't you like to think that, since you wasted your life talking to the ficticious 'big man up there', your life will continue into a blissful paridise? Its just comforting which is why people choose it. And because this 'Personal God', as made up by the respective believers, is just that, people don't want to let go.
it's called a double standard. sigh. i don't personally go around telling people that i'm atheist, but i am constantly having to put up with people touting their christianity and their believe in god. if i mention my atheism they all become threatened and get angry and say it's not fair that atheists are allowed to talk about their religion. jesus (lol).
Japan, and more. We can now explain scientifically what religion tried to, we now have birth control so we no longer have to force people to keep their legs shut till marriage, we now realize Human Rights and no longer want discrimination. Religion is no longer needed.
storms to a new level, blaming it on people rather than monsters. And then saying, rather than living with these thing sin harmony, killing the people, the 'witches' that are to blame. It also forced people to try and do good. To stop them from stealing and telling them they should be 'good people', in the form of threatening them to an eternal damnation.
We don't need religion anymore. That's why so much of the civilized world is not Athiest, such as most of the nordic countries, England, -c-
Empires were much less forgiving or knowledgeable, as seen when we look at the Dark ages. They took Religion to the extreme, refusing everything but their own religion and spreading it across Europe, as we see with the Teutonic Knights and the Crusades. Christianity, in the form it was and still is, was a form of birth control, of keeping sexuality on the down low, of discrimination, and more. And rather than the religions before it, it took the explaining of things like whirlpools and -c-
I can explain to you why Religion was even founded: To explain the unexplainable, as burningthehorse said. If you read the Odyssey, you'll learn that the Greeks used monsters to explain things like whirlpools and such. This happens in all, or nearly all religions. If we'd stayed in Greco-Roman times, eventually they would have tossed their beliefs away as they learned more about science. But the empires fell, and in their place, Christian empires, like the old British empire. These -c-
Shut the fuck up you fat ass we just want to speak our minds like catholics send fucking missionaries to convert shit so dont tell us to shut the fuck why dont you stick that twinky up your ass you hippie
@Assassin666SM a guy named assasin666 defending christianity? thats not very convincing. at least you got the child-like irrational rage part down though.
@ienjoypaninis Hey im not defending christianity, im an atheist so if your going to fucking reply to a comment read the whole comment instead of reading half of it.
@Assassin666SM You can, and we can as well. That's her point. I'm confused, are you religious people for or against anal insertion, penis bad, Twinkie good?
Since you went with the most unimaginably uncreative ad homonym, you’re fat, wow, what a zinger, I will assume that you had no intellectually appealing, logical, well thought, succinct argument against her position. This was also her point. Do us all a favor, next time you have a thought, keep it to yourself, and please don't breed.
The reason why us Atheist's are so aggressive about our "religious" philosophy is because of the asshole, push-over Christian extremists trying to convert us and indoctrinate us into what we think is crap.
Just ask someone that tries to evangelize you not to even try bc your mind is made up. If they still persist remind them that Jesus never tried to convert someone that didnt want it.
Hey, hey hey you can't use wikipedia when asserting a reason, thats what my history teacher said, i saw you looking to the corner when speaking of the wars, cheater...im telling on you
In order to be a Christian, you must accept and practice the Old Testament. If people practice the commandments of the Old Testament, then I refuse to listen to them, or consider them a moral human being.
@j919or Strawman huh? You really think that itès a strawman theory when pieces of the New Testament like Matthew 5: 17-20 exist? Christ clearly stated that the laws of the Old were not to be abolished, that they were only being added upon. It states that whichever law, if even a letter from them isnt practised then the follower will be held least in heaven or not get in the club at all.
That speaks quite clear to me. Please if you have a part of the New Testament that states different, show it.
This deceiver left out the phrase "until all if fulfilled" . Christ fulfilled/completed the purpose of the law in Himself. Purpose complete? Law nullified.
@j919or And, if The Old Testament is the word of God what gives you the right to pick and choose what you think is simple narrative? Wouldnt that be up to your God? How do you tell the difference?
And I read Romans 7. I dont see anything mentioning that the Old Laws are no longer valid.
This is how the atheist agenda poisons the minds of our youth. It is very simple to discern what is narrative and what is not. Narratives are accounts of events as they occurred. Genesis is a narrative and so is the rest of the Torah, Job is too as is Ezra . The prophets spoke truth from God that was directly related to actual events. etc.
religious people arent the problem athiest and pegans are they are the ones corrupting society with non moral values soo you dont know what your talking about.
@mickeyroos76 'Pegenism' (I think you mean paganism) is a religion (in fact, it's a whole group of them). And also, we are not 'corrupting' society with 'non moral values', we're trying to show you don't need religion to be moral and sometimes that religion, throughout history, has caused more war, oppression and suffering than almost any other human cause.
If religious people would just accept that not everyone believes or thinks as they do, there would be NO problem.
@mickeyroos76 im athiest and i dont see how that is corruptive, i see religion as a problem just look at the crusades, islamic extremists and the guy that committed mass murder in guiana...
@mickeyroos76 besides a talking snake, magic apple, people with bird wings, a ship with every animal, and the fact that not one person that wrote the bible has seen jesus, just sounds like a fairy tale, i think harry potter makes a more interesting story than that(note that i dont like that series)
@getalife67 Yeah, trying to tell someone their life belief has no standing in reality can be hard to take. Live life because it is here, and it is worth living to better the lives of everyone that share this little blue dot with us, and not because someone, or something told you to, but because it is the right thing to do.
Just because I am secular doesn't mean i'm a fool. Even though I proud myself in being the most competent, and compassionate fool I can be.
Atheism is the theory or belief that God does not exist, god doesn't have to be a religion. Just because you don't agree with the obvious self defeating nature of "religion" doesn't make you smart or give you the right to bash people, dumb or not. There are many very smart & wise people who aren't religious & sees the inherent corruption that befalls religious organizations but still r spiritual&believe in a higher power they know they' can never comprehend. Why don't u try bashing those people.
I shall disagree with you here, Atheism is simply a lack of belief ... not a theory, nor a belief that a god cannot exist. That, is something else.
Think of it like this - A man walks up to another man and says "I believe that God exists !" to which the other guy considers the words and simply responds "I don't believe that.", he is an atheist. He hasn't made any statements that god cannot possibly exist or not, nor made any theories about it, he simply just do not believe in it.
@Burningthehorse THANK YOU!! Religion is caused by Evolution! someone else who has the same perspective on why religion exists! Its not the other way around! why would "God" create people who do not believe in him?
@Burningthehorse Um...the earth is still flat...I don't know what you're talking about. Last night while I was talking to God he gave me a telescope...and I came to the conclusion that the earth is flat.
So these people decided to sail to the New World, where they established a settlement. Those same crazy people run that same country today. USA. Welcome to religious extremism.
About 400 years ago, there were these people, whose religious practices were so extreme, and so disturbing, that they were asked to leave the country, which happened to be Holland (a VERY tolerant society). So they went to an even more tolerant country to be able to practice their religion (England) Soon, the extreme and disturbing religious practices of these particular Dutch people, began to alarm the local community. They were then asked to leave.
Religion puts everyone on the same page and establishes a community of like minded individuals working towards a common set of goals, uniting them with invisible, unbreakable bonds.
Religion allows society to maintain a moral compass and facilitates an acceptable community standard.
Religion bolsters a nation's confidence in itself and allows it to stand up to any invading country or oppressor.
Religion is powerful enough to cause people to set out on their own and establish a new nation:USA
@dustymiller65 Really?? Religion unites everyone?? Religion is actually a divider.
Really?? Religion allows everyone to maintain a moral compass?? Why is it then that atheistic countries have much lower rates of murder, teenage pregnancy, STD's, etc . etc. etc. than religious countries??
Really?? Religion bolsters a nation's confidence in itself?? On this one I'd have to agree with you. Why else would the War in Iraq be such a dismal failure??
@atheistram When everyone is of the same mind, view, and belief, they are united and can accomplish much, much more than they can compared to them being divisive. United they stand, divided they fall. When it comes to unity of a cause, Religion consolidates people; you got it right on point number three! Being fractious only allows other people to walk all over us.
When America turns back to God, all those rates will become much lower. Refer to the the first sentence above.
@atheistram That's easy, before they went in, not only were they criminals but they were Godless too. Now, they've had time to think about things and they've all become Christians. God's word is so amazing; this is how powerful Religion is, see!
@dustymiller65 So they were ALL atheist's before going into prisons?? Hardly, according to studies... 89% of them were Christian before they went into Prison. Go learn something, why dont'cha??
@atheistram "89% of them were Christian BEFORE they went into Prison"?! That's a lot of good Christians getting locked up? You make them seem like they have exclusive rights to incarceration? Allright, I'll learn something...where may I find this information you are quoting me? I'll read up on it and learn new things. That's quite an astonishing yet peculiar statistic? Is this from an academic journal extract on Criminology or a scholarly article on Jurisprudence? What is the title, volume, etc?
@dustymiller65 Of course they don't have the exclusive right to incarceration. It's just an interesting statistic, that completely disproves your earlier statement.
my reasons for not shutting up is that i shall do my best to destroy any cult who says i deserve to be tortured FOREVER simply for not believing something without proof.
do you stone your unruley children to death?
do you stone gay people to death?
do you support slavery?
do you believe logical deserves eternal punishment?
if you answered no to any of them you're too smart / moral to be a christian.
were not the ones telling you what to think and believe or threatening damnation if you wont agree, you have no authority to speak on gods behalf let alone threaten his children he will make the judgements not you people. you cant even stick to your own teachings, im sure theres stuff in the bible saying not to preach but look to your own self. keep your beliefs to yourself and we will all live in peace. preach ultimatums on behalf of god that you cant back up and there will be conflict
We don't shut up because we cannot stand the fact that illogical people refuse to listen. Whenever I try to talk to a typical religious person... what they do is plug they're ears and say "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"
@igotbored44 Because they know that what you'd say would make them think what your saying makes sense thats why I listen and argue not be an dogmatic whiny child like more people on the internet are these days. :P Because I have fact and prove to back up what I believe and I am 100% convinced that the Big Bang and Evolution are the most illogical explanation of life on earth I've ever heard in my life, and I can honestly say that.
illogical? Maybe, maybe... but yet much more logical than cosmic zombie who was his own wather that died because he loved you to save you from an eternal torment of fire that he made because some bitch ate an apple...
The reason evolution is more logical than this is simply because it is observable, testable, and predictable.
@igotbored44 Well your one to talk about people not listening and yet you have the nerve to tell me what I believe in, in probably the most untruthful and stupid way possible. How would you like it if I said "Well it's more logical the a random explosion and the apes magically turned into humans." If i'm not mistaken that's not true, right? Well thats exactly what you just did maybe your the one who need to take his hand off his ears.
oh no, no no no no no. I read your statement and I replied to it. I fully understood your statement, and have built up a reply to it. This means that I listened. You can say whatever you like about evolution (Just like I can say whatever I like about your belief), and I really don't care, but I know that I can fix these statements to make them factual. Now lets try to fix your statement.
The explosion was caused by a particle collision, which, is indeed mathematically random. Apes do not magically turn into humans, infact, humans didn't come from apes. Apes and humans diverted from a common ansestor.
@igotbored44 Yeah, I know all that I was just making a point about how you made a ridiculous and untrue explanation about what I believe by making what you believe sound unreasonable and stupid as well. :P
@igotbored44 UGH!! It's not about backfiring it's about my point about making false statements about what I believe. I guess your right though evolution/The Big Bang is illogical enough as is you can't make it sound any less sensible. :/ You know when you have proof and facts to support your beliefs.
Hahaha you thought all we believe in is just our faith! If I didn't have evidence I'd be very sketchy about my religion but I have enough prove of the existence of God I'm willing to die for it.
@igotbored44 I don't know what that is, but I'm not giving my life for them if they kill me thats different but if They tell me to do it for some random god them I'll hustling the heck outta there. :P
Either way, I still think that what you belive is illogical, and has no reason to be belived other then fear and ignorance. But just like you said, I have proof and facts for my "illogical" belief, where are yours?
@igotbored44 Again you misunderstand what I believe just to be an ass... again. Look dude stop trying to insult be because just about EVERYTHING you say to insult religion doesn't apply to religion at all. I don't know if you forgot or if you are just being ignorant but I have proof, facts, evidence, and a reasonable explanation. Seriously STOP talking about everyone else when you are just as dogmatic and ignorant as you say WE are.
I care as much about insulting religion as you care about insulting science. You keep saying that you have proof, facts, and explanation... WHERE? Show them. Don't say you have them, actually show them. I'll be waiting.
@igotbored44 Sorry I've been busy I totally forgot about this discussion. XD ANYWAY One reason why this isn't correct is mutation random genetic code combining into new species, correct? Well lets look at this more closely by a study. Do you recall a study by Asia, Europe, and The U.S of A? It was a study that would basically speed up the process of evolution. They spent 70 years breeding and the conclusion: a failure. They were unable to use mutation to develope a new species.
@igotbored44 The mutations either dead or weaker then wild species. Basically if you think we evolved then we would be weaker then our ancestor or dead therefore our population would barely be were it is today if we really did evolve. Even in nature if Mutants are unable to maintain their strength they would surely die or already be dead making it impossible to breed with a dead thing... obviously. Again sorry taking so long to respond.
Mutations dont weaken species... thats absurd. Mutations are one ofthe things that progress species. they are either beneficial or not. Natural Selection sorts that out. Your entire statement is completely false here, simply because mutations do not weaken things...
@igotbored44 LOL @ "Mutations don't weaken species..." Dude the facts are facts 70 years of continuous testing on mutation funded by USA, Europe, and Asia those are the official result and you dare say that it's fake? Your basically saying they wasted the money and time for something fake. Here I'll try to find it on the internet. (17 minutes later) Okay I found something read this "pathlights . com/ ce_encyclopedia /Encyclopedia /10mut02.htm"
@igotbored44 I'm not looking at the sites but you said I made all that up so I tried to look it up but it's hard when they don't name the dang 70 year study. :P i'm sure it has a name but I can't remember it right now. :(
It might be BS but at least it's scientifically accurate whether you like it or not. (Most of it anyway)
And why is it when you ever you hear something that proves you wrong you immediately say "IT'S FAKE!!" without even researching it?
@igotbored44 Okay seriously are you listening to me ARE YOU SEEING WHAT I AM TYPING... good now listen very carefully because I've asked you 3 time already this will be the forth.
Sence the explanation for mutation you gave me was incorrect then tell me a truthful explanation of what YOU believe mutation is?
YES I SEE WHAT YOUR TYPING! TYPING IN CAPS IS FUN.
Now now, what makes you think that the scientific explanation of mutations in species is incorrect? Is it a random, unheard of, and probably unvalified "study" that is found on a christian site?
Unheard of: The world revolves around you huh? If you didn't hear it NO ONE hears it right?
Unvalified "Study": Christian site really? Thats for people who listen to what they want to heard.
Facts dude facts is that what you've been doing just listening to what you want to hear, nothing else? I'm trying to listen to you but your to busy trying to screech "Every thing you say is fake and false!" You seriously not even trying.
1) It is unheard of because it probanly wasnt even a real study
2) You my friend, really like to listen to only what you like to hear. You jkeep saying that mutations are weakening species because a site tells you so, but you dont even know how mutations work in species.
3) Those arn't facts. Want to know why? Because the mutations we see today are filterted by the simple process of mNatural Selection (You forgot about that didn't you)...
With Natural Selection going on, weakening species with genetic mutations is *Gasp... Impossible! They die before they can reproduce, and all thats left is beneficial mutations, and benificial mutations are *Gasp... beneficial! Im listenting to every word, and im trying to tell you that what your saying is false, its YOU who dosn't want to listen to that.
4) The reason Unvalified isnt a word is because I made a typo while writing Unvalidified.
By the way, I love how you kept saying that you have facts to prove your belief, but every time I ask you to show those facts, you either change the subject or you avoid the question. Well, come on. You say you have facts, show them. Or do you even have any facts at all?
Same thing applies with mutrations. You say you know how they work, but whenever I asked you to explain your POV on them... you change the subject and try to avoid the question.
I promise that I will explain how mutations work, but on one condition. I want YOU, in your own words, to prove to me that you know how mutations in species work. In other words, i want to see how you explain it, and I will see how accurate your POV really is.
Science and God...why cant they be the same? I dont see my higher power as a being that just poofs things into place. Why cant the creation of the universe or evolution be apart of a creator? Science, to me at least, strengthens the idea of a higher power, not disproving it. Look Im not trying to "preach" or convert you, because frankly, I dont have the answers but you gave your point of view so Im giving you mine...my best friend is an Athiest.
f91843 5 months ago
OK, you are right, through about half of that video. Religion is bull and can be dangerous. I believe in a higher power but cant stand religion. But then you start saying that religous people dont care about the world? the curch I used to go to as a child used to do charity and pick up trash on the side of the road. I dont want to world to end, I want to see my baby grow up. God would do somethig by now if he really existed? its called freedom, we have it, thats why this world is shit.
f91843 5 months ago
When you say "religious people" are you ignorantly referring to people subscribing to organised religion based on the Jewish god YWHW? (ie. Jews, Christians, Muslims). Do you understand that there are many more religions in the world than these? It's a bit ironic I think that you speak so ignorantly whilst calling others the same.
marxvlog 5 months ago
@marxvlog She probably means the dominant religions in the western society, which is where she lives.
maxergud 5 months ago
@maxergud There is a stark difference between speculation as to what she may or may not mean and the reality of what she is actually saying. But even if your speculation were true she'd still be generalising the situation.
marxvlog 5 months ago
shes soooo fuckin pissed
GrungeMaster92 6 months ago
your voice and face hurt me!
ChainSlinged 6 months ago
Okay Religion is a good thing the concept of religion as a whole is a good thing you just get a bad apple every so often . you could say the same about atheists every so often you get a bad apple. but saying that either side is ignorant is ignorant in itself because no one "alive" knows for sure which side is wrong or right its a faith thing whither you chose to believe in the flying t-rex or mount mordor who says anyone has the all knowing power to say otherwise.
sixxoklokk 6 months ago
This is not atheism but anti-theism. Atheism - not believing in God but not critisizing belief in God. Anti-theism critisizing belief in God.
GrowlingM1ke 6 months ago
@GrowlingM1ke Anti-theism - a belief there isnt a God. Atheism - a lack of a belief in God. No?
BumJungle 6 months ago
@BumJungle Anti-theism is the hatred of religion as a whole. It doesn't discriminate. Anti-theists think all religions are inherently destructive and evil. All atheists sign on to is the position that there is no God. But don't take my word for it...look it for yourself...that's what I always do when I run into these type of questions. Hope this helps and have a good day =)
slimjimmy149 6 months ago
@slimjimmy149 Look at this - even we 'skeptics' disagree on the definitions theists place upon our (lack of) a belief system. I prefer the label "Pantheist. At least it makes them Google and work it out for themselves ;-)
BumJungle 5 months ago
I don't like religion, but I tolerate it. It's one of humanities many flaws.
I only hope that some day there will be definite proof.
Timothy7967 6 months ago
@Timothy7967 Lol the proof was probably found and hidden a long time ago just like proof on UFO'S and stuff like I said PROBABLY.
TheWho58 6 months ago
And as far as my comment calling her stupid goes, she claims that religious people are violent. Im religious and Im not violent, neither are my family and friends. And chances are the people in her family are religious-I wonder if she would call them violent? That's pretty stupid.
ready2escape 6 months ago
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@airman122469 you know what, I think it funny that anytime I disagree with someone they call me an ignorant fuck. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me stupid. So go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.
ready2escape 6 months ago
@airman122469 you know what, I think it funny that anytime I disagree with someone they call me an ignorant fuck. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make me stupid. So go fuck yourself you worthless piece of shit.
ready2escape 6 months ago
Nice video =). You made some very good points. I hope that you continue to spread the truth so that more people may be empowered to open their eyes to reality before this ever growing cloud of delusion destroys the world as we know it for good.
themongru 6 months ago
Nice one you are very right Divaofdarkness! I don't think you aren't healthy, like some religious retards on here. I think your pretty, keep speaking up! I'm with ya! Consistent thoughts and belief. You wanna believe in something believe the whole thing! Totally agree! As a side note, the BMI, it's bullshit!
Symfani 6 months ago
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Symfani 6 months ago
Without religion we wouldn't have any standards of moral values. And I think it so funny that people use the old testament to 'prove' that religious people are violent. Look around idiot. Willful ignorance? Ignore reality and scientific facts? I don't ignore those...the more design you find through science the better for me! Go ahead...show me complexity...show me design. Proud creationists here! You are the one who needs the reality check....seriously.
ready2escape 6 months ago
@ready2escape You are seriously retarded. Humans had moral standards WAY before religion. Piranhas don't eat each other and have a concept of sharing, that's a moral standard in nature. Wolves have pack leaders, have punishments for attacking fellow wolves, and also have a concept of sharing. Do animals have religion? Or is it just natural for social animals to act...oh I don't know...socially? Pick up a fucking textbook you ignorant fuck.
airman122469 6 months ago 2
I love fat women
jityr2 6 months ago
Top comments were done by dipshits that couldn't finish highschool.
yoshiguy123 6 months ago
@yoshiguy123 As are the people that up-voted them.
Ashtwan 6 months ago
@Ashtwan If I knew where you lived I'd run over there and bump fists with you.
yoshiguy123 6 months ago
I don't know of any wars before year 0.
LLOYD19851012 6 months ago
Why doesn't this bitch stop eating?
TheDrunkenTrooper 6 months ago
I agree with almost everything you said with one exception. The religious seem pretty bent out of shape when people take it up the ass. I'm just sayin'.
AdUtrumquePeratus76 6 months ago
@divaofdarkness, I noticed that all the top comments and comments above it are insults. Know that they're the ignorant jackasses you're talking about here, and please don't listen to them. They couldn't come up with anything more creative than you're fat, twinkie, and bald.
manna3737 6 months ago
I don't know if I consider myself an atheist.. I don't believe in religion really... I think instead of believing in god, we should all believe in ourselves. However I do understand that it can be quite different for someone who has lived in a different situation. I think a god or numerous gods could exist... Just, haven't found proof. However I don't think any religion on earth or any people truly know the real answer. So for that reason, I think religions are mostly just silly cults & gangs...
NamezJamez007 6 months ago
Well apparently the explaination you gave about mutation was a complete lie sence you keep asking me so tell me the truth this time. As for Valid and Certified "Yes". Funded by America, Asian and Europe and Yes it is very real so please explain mutation sense you first explanation was wrong.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
0:35 Killing spree! bitch got that with the grav hammer
BathTub4Me2Swim 6 months ago
why dont religious people stop preaching? maybe the rest of the world would like you to sit-down at the global breakfast table and have a cup of SHUT THE FUCK UP
monimstarfox 6 months ago
Great video. I am impressed!
bnbalenda 6 months ago
You personally have a problem with putting down that twinkie.
layhayla 6 months ago 7
@layhayla and you dont know when to keep your goddamn mouth shut! learn some fucking manners
greysquid1 6 months ago
@greysquid1 I do have manners.It's obvious she is bashing people that do not have her ideals,and ideas.There are many MANY people RELIGIOUS people who feed the hungry,cloth and house the poor.What has THIS INDIVIDUAL DONE (meaning actively done and not just ran her mouth) to save the environment,help others ect ect ect? It's OBVIOUS she is overweight! Sorry not rude but it's an observation ;) If you can't take it in don't dish it out.
layhayla 6 months ago
@layhayla yes and many who are absolute CUNTS like yourself, who DONT know when to keep their mouths SHUT! take YOUR own advice, dont dish the shit out if you cant take it! you're sitting there slagging her off, if shes overweight so fuck! what has it got to do with you? does it personally affect YOU? NO then shut up! i stand by my original thoughts, religious people are the biggest hypocrites you can imagine, your religions have caused all this evil, fuck off!
greysquid1 6 months ago
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@layhayla "There are many MANY people RELIGIOUS people who feed the hungry,cloth and house the poor." It is very possible to do those things without religion. Still religions have caused more problems than solved anyway so your argument fails.
KayoteThunder 6 months ago
@layhayla You have a problem with making a valid sound argument so rather than make coherent sense so you resort to ad-hominem fallacies because you are nothing more than a pathetic being?
KayoteThunder 6 months ago
@layhayla ya that sounds about christian. i actually just prayed that the lord will give you lung cancer real soon, then typed that on my fb as a prayer and asked friends to repost.
petermouse420 5 months ago
Why don't Atheists just shut up?
Because beliefs informs actions. If you pollute your mind with the idea of an afterlife you might do something that you wouldn't ordinarily do. For example, if you think Americans are "evil" you might hijack a plane and crash it into a skyscraper thinking that you'll get rewarded with some eternal paradise. And that's why I fucking hate religion. It specializes in hatred, self-righteousness, bigotry, complacency, and brainwashing.
FallofDarkness55 6 months ago
it's not hard to masterbate to this!!
stephenboing 6 months ago
Scorrect in everything she said.
bluffr22 6 months ago
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you are fat.
TheTracer199 6 months ago
up the ass....she's got experience.
movadoband 6 months ago
you're fat.
NegrooBlacky 6 months ago
@NegrooBlacky you're mean.
SuckMyKiss420 6 months ago
stfu. your fat. and god is real!
uglycow05 6 months ago
@uglycow05 Coming from someone whose account is uglycow05? And what kind of argument is that: "stfu god is real".
Fucking retard.
TehTyg13 6 months ago
@uglycow05 Kill yourself.
Nemesis0300 6 months ago
In my opinion, we shouldn't shut-up (I'm agnostic actually) because back then like.... ANCIENT GREEKS let's say. They created "Gods" to exlains things they couldn't understand. NOW we have something called SCIENCE to prove what we didn't know before.
WhereFantsyRules 6 months ago
You shut up. You religious nuts go around, filling people's heads with stories from a book of lies. Science has given us stuff, like your computer. What have religion given us? Fights and wars, people praying not doing, wasted time on Sundays, stupidity, etc. lol
Metalgears1 6 months ago
religous people are arrogant and they refuse to listen but they expect others to listen to them
HALOMEGABLOKSREVIEW1 6 months ago
Ok so I didn't actually watch this video, I just wanted to let you know that you're going bald. Buy a wig plz.
IICJZII 6 months ago 13
@IICJZII i think she is probably aware of her own appearance. try looking at people for who they are, not what they are.
SuckMyKiss420 6 months ago
@IICJZII lol I don't think she's going bald. Just a big forehead
spikypirate 6 months ago
i agree even though i can tell your reading this, super atheist out
kennethofthedead 6 months ago
Most poeple pick religion because it makes them feel safe. If your on your death bed, wouldn't you like to think that, since you wasted your life talking to the ficticious 'big man up there', your life will continue into a blissful paridise? Its just comforting which is why people choose it. And because this 'Personal God', as made up by the respective believers, is just that, people don't want to let go.
kodiakguy280 6 months ago
You are beautiful
muffin8or 6 months ago
it's called a double standard. sigh. i don't personally go around telling people that i'm atheist, but i am constantly having to put up with people touting their christianity and their believe in god. if i mention my atheism they all become threatened and get angry and say it's not fair that atheists are allowed to talk about their religion. jesus (lol).
selphiexfairy 6 months ago
I love you
dragonzaresexc 6 months ago
Japan, and more. We can now explain scientifically what religion tried to, we now have birth control so we no longer have to force people to keep their legs shut till marriage, we now realize Human Rights and no longer want discrimination. Religion is no longer needed.
StarxLolita 6 months ago
storms to a new level, blaming it on people rather than monsters. And then saying, rather than living with these thing sin harmony, killing the people, the 'witches' that are to blame. It also forced people to try and do good. To stop them from stealing and telling them they should be 'good people', in the form of threatening them to an eternal damnation.
We don't need religion anymore. That's why so much of the civilized world is not Athiest, such as most of the nordic countries, England, -c-
StarxLolita 6 months ago
Empires were much less forgiving or knowledgeable, as seen when we look at the Dark ages. They took Religion to the extreme, refusing everything but their own religion and spreading it across Europe, as we see with the Teutonic Knights and the Crusades. Christianity, in the form it was and still is, was a form of birth control, of keeping sexuality on the down low, of discrimination, and more. And rather than the religions before it, it took the explaining of things like whirlpools and -c-
StarxLolita 6 months ago
I can explain to you why Religion was even founded: To explain the unexplainable, as burningthehorse said. If you read the Odyssey, you'll learn that the Greeks used monsters to explain things like whirlpools and such. This happens in all, or nearly all religions. If we'd stayed in Greco-Roman times, eventually they would have tossed their beliefs away as they learned more about science. But the empires fell, and in their place, Christian empires, like the old British empire. These -c-
StarxLolita 6 months ago
I completely agree with everything she said
NatsBABESX 6 months ago
@NatsBABESX - Why?
divaofdarkness 6 months ago
@divaofdarkness Because it's true.
TheLastZebra 6 months ago
Shut the fuck up you fat ass we just want to speak our minds like catholics send fucking missionaries to convert shit so dont tell us to shut the fuck why dont you stick that twinky up your ass you hippie
Assassin666SM 6 months ago
@Assassin666SM - Wait, wait, since when is hippy an insult?
divaofdarkness 6 months ago 2
@divaofdarkness When being gay was an insult. :P
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@divaofdarkness Since the practice was created
Assassin666SM 6 months ago
@Assassin666SM a guy named assasin666 defending christianity? thats not very convincing. at least you got the child-like irrational rage part down though.
ienjoypaninis 6 months ago
@ienjoypaninis Hey im not defending christianity, im an atheist so if your going to fucking reply to a comment read the whole comment instead of reading half of it.
Assassin666SM 6 months ago
@Assassin666SM You can, and we can as well. That's her point. I'm confused, are you religious people for or against anal insertion, penis bad, Twinkie good?
Since you went with the most unimaginably uncreative ad homonym, you’re fat, wow, what a zinger, I will assume that you had no intellectually appealing, logical, well thought, succinct argument against her position. This was also her point. Do us all a favor, next time you have a thought, keep it to yourself, and please don't breed.
AdUtrumquePeratus76 6 months ago
@Assassin666SM Your comment seems to assume that this video is hostile towards atheism, thus you haven't watched it?
Bleumange 6 months ago
The reason why us Atheist's are so aggressive about our "religious" philosophy is because of the asshole, push-over Christian extremists trying to convert us and indoctrinate us into what we think is crap.
thelazybrotherz 6 months ago
@thelazybrotherz ""Christian extremists trying to convert us ""
Just ask someone that tries to evangelize you not to even try bc your mind is made up. If they still persist remind them that Jesus never tried to convert someone that didnt want it.
j919or 6 months ago
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cause we are smarter than dumb bitches like you and for this reason we have more to say
SHADOWICED11 6 months ago
No one can ignore the fact that all the pain in the world is of human origin.
PiscespiritX 6 months ago
Hey, hey hey you can't use wikipedia when asserting a reason, thats what my history teacher said, i saw you looking to the corner when speaking of the wars, cheater...im telling on you
UFCmaxer 6 months ago
Most religious people? I think, really, the ones you're talking about aren't necessarily that common, they're just really loud.
DoctorNociceptor 6 months ago
In order to be a Christian, you must accept and practice the Old Testament. If people practice the commandments of the Old Testament, then I refuse to listen to them, or consider them a moral human being.
IsolationInstigation 6 months ago
@IsolationInstigation "" you must accept and practice the Old Testament""
1.Strawman fallacy. Erect a false idea, attribute it to an entity and then attack that entity because of that idea.
2.Most of the OT is narratives which are history. What is there to practice? Its just telling us what happened.
3.Paul says that Christians are dead to the law.Rm7
4.The guideline for a christian is to yield to Christ and let Him life His life thru u, period.
5.No more sabbath law and no diet laws .
j919or 6 months ago
@j919or Strawman huh? You really think that itès a strawman theory when pieces of the New Testament like Matthew 5: 17-20 exist? Christ clearly stated that the laws of the Old were not to be abolished, that they were only being added upon. It states that whichever law, if even a letter from them isnt practised then the follower will be held least in heaven or not get in the club at all.
That speaks quite clear to me. Please if you have a part of the New Testament that states different, show it.
IsolationInstigation 6 months ago
@IsolationInstigation ""laws of the Old were not to be abolished""
This deceiver left out the phrase "until all if fulfilled" . Christ fulfilled/completed the purpose of the law in Himself. Purpose complete? Law nullified.
j919or 6 months ago
@j919or And, if The Old Testament is the word of God what gives you the right to pick and choose what you think is simple narrative? Wouldnt that be up to your God? How do you tell the difference?
And I read Romans 7. I dont see anything mentioning that the Old Laws are no longer valid.
IsolationInstigation 6 months ago
@IsolationInstigation ""pick and choose what you think is simple narrative?""
This is how the atheist agenda poisons the minds of our youth. It is very simple to discern what is narrative and what is not. Narratives are accounts of events as they occurred. Genesis is a narrative and so is the rest of the Torah, Job is too as is Ezra . The prophets spoke truth from God that was directly related to actual events. etc.
j919or 6 months ago
Heaven? Hell? God? HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. Enough said.
Zeroxidy 6 months ago
It's official jabba the hut is a theist
skydome29 7 months ago
I think if you are religious, and you dont like atheism, then you need to sit down and shut the fuck up about it.
cosmicforums 7 months ago
religious people arent the problem athiest and pegans are they are the ones corrupting society with non moral values soo you dont know what your talking about.
mickeyroos76 7 months ago
@mickeyroos76 'Pegenism' (I think you mean paganism) is a religion (in fact, it's a whole group of them). And also, we are not 'corrupting' society with 'non moral values', we're trying to show you don't need religion to be moral and sometimes that religion, throughout history, has caused more war, oppression and suffering than almost any other human cause.
If religious people would just accept that not everyone believes or thinks as they do, there would be NO problem.
TheBanile 7 months ago
@mickeyroos76 im athiest and i dont see how that is corruptive, i see religion as a problem just look at the crusades, islamic extremists and the guy that committed mass murder in guiana...
Burningthehorse 7 months ago
@mickeyroos76 besides a talking snake, magic apple, people with bird wings, a ship with every animal, and the fact that not one person that wrote the bible has seen jesus, just sounds like a fairy tale, i think harry potter makes a more interesting story than that(note that i dont like that series)
Burningthehorse 7 months ago
I let atheist believe what they want to believe, no use fighting fools, when the day comes when they meat there maker then they will know.
getalife67 7 months ago
@getalife67 Yeah, trying to tell someone their life belief has no standing in reality can be hard to take. Live life because it is here, and it is worth living to better the lives of everyone that share this little blue dot with us, and not because someone, or something told you to, but because it is the right thing to do.
Just because I am secular doesn't mean i'm a fool. Even though I proud myself in being the most competent, and compassionate fool I can be.
ZoeFullThrottle 7 months ago
You cannot blame God for the faults of mankind, all that you said are done by man interpreting religion for his personal gain not by God Himself
MarqLouieIVI 7 months ago
Atheism is the theory or belief that God does not exist, god doesn't have to be a religion. Just because you don't agree with the obvious self defeating nature of "religion" doesn't make you smart or give you the right to bash people, dumb or not. There are many very smart & wise people who aren't religious & sees the inherent corruption that befalls religious organizations but still r spiritual&believe in a higher power they know they' can never comprehend. Why don't u try bashing those people.
i2rent 7 months ago
@i2rent
I shall disagree with you here, Atheism is simply a lack of belief ... not a theory, nor a belief that a god cannot exist. That, is something else.
Think of it like this - A man walks up to another man and says "I believe that God exists !" to which the other guy considers the words and simply responds "I don't believe that.", he is an atheist. He hasn't made any statements that god cannot possibly exist or not, nor made any theories about it, he simply just do not believe in it.
Jesus45U 7 months ago
Beautiful ! Thank you.
MrJTewell 7 months ago
GOD PIG
Radiowass 7 months ago
the human era is evolving we no longer need religion, it was simply primitive ways to explain the unexplainable
Burningthehorse 7 months ago 32
@Burningthehorse THANK YOU!! Religion is caused by Evolution! someone else who has the same perspective on why religion exists! Its not the other way around! why would "God" create people who do not believe in him?
MrFallout396 7 months ago
@MrFallout396 your spot on ;)
Burningthehorse 7 months ago
@Burningthehorse Um...the earth is still flat...I don't know what you're talking about. Last night while I was talking to God he gave me a telescope...and I came to the conclusion that the earth is flat.
iTzJimBoi 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 there is no devil and there is no god....get used to it you ignoramous and wake up.:-)
Tindting 7 months ago
So these people decided to sail to the New World, where they established a settlement. Those same crazy people run that same country today. USA. Welcome to religious extremism.
Lochnessmonsta 7 months ago
About 400 years ago, there were these people, whose religious practices were so extreme, and so disturbing, that they were asked to leave the country, which happened to be Holland (a VERY tolerant society). So they went to an even more tolerant country to be able to practice their religion (England) Soon, the extreme and disturbing religious practices of these particular Dutch people, began to alarm the local community. They were then asked to leave.
Lochnessmonsta 7 months ago
Religion puts everyone on the same page and establishes a community of like minded individuals working towards a common set of goals, uniting them with invisible, unbreakable bonds.
Religion allows society to maintain a moral compass and facilitates an acceptable community standard.
Religion bolsters a nation's confidence in itself and allows it to stand up to any invading country or oppressor.
Religion is powerful enough to cause people to set out on their own and establish a new nation:USA
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 Reason people set out and established the U.S.A was to have Freedom of Religion and Freedom from Religion.
Try again, please.
atheistram 7 months ago
@atheistram Religion was the cause of their setting out: Freedom of "what", and Freedom from "what"? I'm correct AND correct then. Thank you.
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 Uh, no you're not. Another reason they set out was to be free of the tyranny of England.
atheistram 7 months ago
@atheistram The tyranny of "what"? You got it. Yes, I am right.
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 Really?? Religion unites everyone?? Religion is actually a divider.
Really?? Religion allows everyone to maintain a moral compass?? Why is it then that atheistic countries have much lower rates of murder, teenage pregnancy, STD's, etc . etc. etc. than religious countries??
Really?? Religion bolsters a nation's confidence in itself?? On this one I'd have to agree with you. Why else would the War in Iraq be such a dismal failure??
atheistram 7 months ago
@atheistram When everyone is of the same mind, view, and belief, they are united and can accomplish much, much more than they can compared to them being divisive. United they stand, divided they fall. When it comes to unity of a cause, Religion consolidates people; you got it right on point number three! Being fractious only allows other people to walk all over us.
When America turns back to God, all those rates will become much lower. Refer to the the first sentence above.
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 Really?? Then why is 90% of the prison population Christian?
atheistram 7 months ago
@atheistram That's easy, before they went in, not only were they criminals but they were Godless too. Now, they've had time to think about things and they've all become Christians. God's word is so amazing; this is how powerful Religion is, see!
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 So they were ALL atheist's before going into prisons?? Hardly, according to studies... 89% of them were Christian before they went into Prison. Go learn something, why dont'cha??
atheistram 7 months ago
@atheistram "89% of them were Christian BEFORE they went into Prison"?! That's a lot of good Christians getting locked up? You make them seem like they have exclusive rights to incarceration? Allright, I'll learn something...where may I find this information you are quoting me? I'll read up on it and learn new things. That's quite an astonishing yet peculiar statistic? Is this from an academic journal extract on Criminology or a scholarly article on Jurisprudence? What is the title, volume, etc?
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 Of course they don't have the exclusive right to incarceration. It's just an interesting statistic, that completely disproves your earlier statement.
I'll find it for ya within a week.
atheistram 7 months ago
@atheistram I shall save you the work, my friend, don't bother. I'll just sum up my point succinctly:
"Religion is more powerful than you think and as long as there are humans, it will always be here. You're just going to have to get used to it."
dustymiller65 7 months ago
@dustymiller65 Religion is only powerful because it makes the in-group believe that they deserve some eternal reward.
atheistram 7 months ago
I believe in... in SANTA!!!
iRingoDrums 7 months ago
@iRingoDrums - ...and what would you like for christmas little boy? Creepy old men! =)
divaofdarkness 6 months ago
my reasons for not shutting up is that i shall do my best to destroy any cult who says i deserve to be tortured FOREVER simply for not believing something without proof.
do you stone your unruley children to death?
do you stone gay people to death?
do you support slavery?
do you believe logical deserves eternal punishment?
if you answered no to any of them you're too smart / moral to be a christian.
DemoraX 7 months ago
were not the ones telling you what to think and believe or threatening damnation if you wont agree, you have no authority to speak on gods behalf let alone threaten his children he will make the judgements not you people. you cant even stick to your own teachings, im sure theres stuff in the bible saying not to preach but look to your own self. keep your beliefs to yourself and we will all live in peace. preach ultimatums on behalf of god that you cant back up and there will be conflict
Amen.
ZLi0n 7 months ago
@yproks was that an opinion?
cycophile 7 months ago
We don't shut up because we cannot stand the fact that illogical people refuse to listen. Whenever I try to talk to a typical religious person... what they do is plug they're ears and say "LA-LA-LA-LA-LA"
igotbored44 7 months ago 34
@igotbored44 Richard Dawkins??? Is that you! I love you!
MroAeon 7 months ago
@MroAeon
Hate to break it, but no, I'm not Mr. Dawkins :/
igotbored44 7 months ago
@igotbored44 Because they know that what you'd say would make them think what your saying makes sense thats why I listen and argue not be an dogmatic whiny child like more people on the internet are these days. :P Because I have fact and prove to back up what I believe and I am 100% convinced that the Big Bang and Evolution are the most illogical explanation of life on earth I've ever heard in my life, and I can honestly say that.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
illogical? Maybe, maybe... but yet much more logical than cosmic zombie who was his own wather that died because he loved you to save you from an eternal torment of fire that he made because some bitch ate an apple...
The reason evolution is more logical than this is simply because it is observable, testable, and predictable.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Well your one to talk about people not listening and yet you have the nerve to tell me what I believe in, in probably the most untruthful and stupid way possible. How would you like it if I said "Well it's more logical the a random explosion and the apes magically turned into humans." If i'm not mistaken that's not true, right? Well thats exactly what you just did maybe your the one who need to take his hand off his ears.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
oh no, no no no no no. I read your statement and I replied to it. I fully understood your statement, and have built up a reply to it. This means that I listened. You can say whatever you like about evolution (Just like I can say whatever I like about your belief), and I really don't care, but I know that I can fix these statements to make them factual. Now lets try to fix your statement.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
The explosion was caused by a particle collision, which, is indeed mathematically random. Apes do not magically turn into humans, infact, humans didn't come from apes. Apes and humans diverted from a common ansestor.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Yeah, I know all that I was just making a point about how you made a ridiculous and untrue explanation about what I believe by making what you believe sound unreasonable and stupid as well. :P
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Well you will need to try a bit harder because that one backfired.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 UGH!! It's not about backfiring it's about my point about making false statements about what I believe. I guess your right though evolution/The Big Bang is illogical enough as is you can't make it sound any less sensible. :/ You know when you have proof and facts to support your beliefs.
Hahaha you thought all we believe in is just our faith! If I didn't have evidence I'd be very sketchy about my religion but I have enough prove of the existence of God I'm willing to die for it.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
I have proof and facts to suppport mine. Where are yours?
Your willing to die for god? Hmmm... Al-Queda may find you quite useful.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 I don't know what that is, but I'm not giving my life for them if they kill me thats different but if They tell me to do it for some random god them I'll hustling the heck outta there. :P
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Either way, I still think that what you belive is illogical, and has no reason to be belived other then fear and ignorance. But just like you said, I have proof and facts for my "illogical" belief, where are yours?
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Again you misunderstand what I believe just to be an ass... again. Look dude stop trying to insult be because just about EVERYTHING you say to insult religion doesn't apply to religion at all. I don't know if you forgot or if you are just being ignorant but I have proof, facts, evidence, and a reasonable explanation. Seriously STOP talking about everyone else when you are just as dogmatic and ignorant as you say WE are.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
I care as much about insulting religion as you care about insulting science. You keep saying that you have proof, facts, and explanation... WHERE? Show them. Don't say you have them, actually show them. I'll be waiting.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Atheist... FEAR MY BANANA!!! ))
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Sorry I've been busy I totally forgot about this discussion. XD ANYWAY One reason why this isn't correct is mutation random genetic code combining into new species, correct? Well lets look at this more closely by a study. Do you recall a study by Asia, Europe, and The U.S of A? It was a study that would basically speed up the process of evolution. They spent 70 years breeding and the conclusion: a failure. They were unable to use mutation to develope a new species.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@igotbored44 The mutations either dead or weaker then wild species. Basically if you think we evolved then we would be weaker then our ancestor or dead therefore our population would barely be were it is today if we really did evolve. Even in nature if Mutants are unable to maintain their strength they would surely die or already be dead making it impossible to breed with a dead thing... obviously. Again sorry taking so long to respond.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Mutations dont weaken species... thats absurd. Mutations are one ofthe things that progress species. they are either beneficial or not. Natural Selection sorts that out. Your entire statement is completely false here, simply because mutations do not weaken things...
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 LOL @ "Mutations don't weaken species..." Dude the facts are facts 70 years of continuous testing on mutation funded by USA, Europe, and Asia those are the official result and you dare say that it's fake? Your basically saying they wasted the money and time for something fake. Here I'll try to find it on the internet. (17 minutes later) Okay I found something read this "pathlights . com/ ce_encyclopedia /Encyclopedia /10mut02.htm"
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Do you even know what mutations are?
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 I think I made it clear I know what mutations are it's you saying I made all that up is what I don't understand. :L
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@igotbored44 I'll send you another link in the message but I wanna talk in the comments.
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
You sent me a biased chrisitan site that was full of BS...
You need to stop looking at those sites, because they fill you full of rediculous logic like "Mutations kill species"
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 I'm not looking at the sites but you said I made all that up so I tried to look it up but it's hard when they don't name the dang 70 year study. :P i'm sure it has a name but I can't remember it right now. :(
It might be BS but at least it's scientifically accurate whether you like it or not. (Most of it anyway)
And why is it when you ever you hear something that proves you wrong you immediately say "IT'S FAKE!!" without even researching it?
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Its not a scientific study. Was it even validified or certified? And do you even know how mutations work?
igotbored44 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Before you spout random nonsense about mutations in species, find out how mutations work first.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Okay seriously are you listening to me ARE YOU SEEING WHAT I AM TYPING... good now listen very carefully because I've asked you 3 time already this will be the forth.
Sence the explanation for mutation you gave me was incorrect then tell me a truthful explanation of what YOU believe mutation is?
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
YES I SEE WHAT YOUR TYPING! TYPING IN CAPS IS FUN.
Now now, what makes you think that the scientific explanation of mutations in species is incorrect? Is it a random, unheard of, and probably unvalified "study" that is found on a christian site?
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44
Random: false
Unheard of: The world revolves around you huh? If you didn't hear it NO ONE hears it right?
Unvalified "Study": Christian site really? Thats for people who listen to what they want to heard.
Facts dude facts is that what you've been doing just listening to what you want to hear, nothing else? I'm trying to listen to you but your to busy trying to screech "Every thing you say is fake and false!" You seriously not even trying.
P.S. Unvalified isn't even a word. :/
TheAgentdrknite007 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
1) It is unheard of because it probanly wasnt even a real study
2) You my friend, really like to listen to only what you like to hear. You jkeep saying that mutations are weakening species because a site tells you so, but you dont even know how mutations work in species.
3) Those arn't facts. Want to know why? Because the mutations we see today are filterted by the simple process of mNatural Selection (You forgot about that didn't you)...
igotbored44 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
Cont...
With Natural Selection going on, weakening species with genetic mutations is *Gasp... Impossible! They die before they can reproduce, and all thats left is beneficial mutations, and benificial mutations are *Gasp... beneficial! Im listenting to every word, and im trying to tell you that what your saying is false, its YOU who dosn't want to listen to that.
4) The reason Unvalified isnt a word is because I made a typo while writing Unvalidified.
igotbored44 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
By the way, I love how you kept saying that you have facts to prove your belief, but every time I ask you to show those facts, you either change the subject or you avoid the question. Well, come on. You say you have facts, show them. Or do you even have any facts at all?
Same thing applies with mutrations. You say you know how they work, but whenever I asked you to explain your POV on them... you change the subject and try to avoid the question.
Whats that all about?
igotbored44 6 months ago
@igotbored44 Let me guess, he indefinitely stopped answering.
Bleumange 6 months ago
@TheAgentdrknite007
I promise that I will explain how mutations work, but on one condition. I want YOU, in your own words, to prove to me that you know how mutations in species work. In other words, i want to see how you explain it, and I will see how accurate your POV really is.
igotbored44