Steve Thomas speaks with Greta

[jdeschamps80]

Steve Thomas is a legend. he was the only one who got it right.

[anastasia2657]

while I believe Thomas conducted a thorough investigation, I do not think he made a good case in his book for excluding Santa Bill. There are only 2 reasons given for excluding him, , i.e. the ransom note (did not match his handwriting) and his frailty after surgery. The frailty argument doesn't hold up because of his trip to Europe a mere 10 days later, & some say that the handwriiting was not so dissimilar as to exclude him.

[peteyguitarguy]

Steve Thomas was a narcotics detective and had zero experience in homicides. Why was he even investigating this case?

[dhom100]

Steve Thomas sounds as clueless here as he did did when he was investigating the case. everything he said was so vague.

[alyngrace123]

it seems a crime of an adult male, why did he hit her in her head, it is so scary it is the anger of a male,

[Deltidsharmonisk]

Of course she did it.

[highstoat]

Steve Thomas is hot! he can investigate me any time!

[Igentenos]

Boulder police screwed up this case much worse than the LAPD in the OJ case. I do believe it was one of the Ramseys. Pretty sure its Patsy.

[rosevillmb]

The parents didn't murder their daugther.

There is not one shred of solid evidence pointhing at the Ramseys.

If there had been they would have been arrested a long time ago

[semiautoriflelover]

@rosevillmb Look at the Martha Moxley murder case(1975), because the people next door were rich the police never did their job and then finally got the guy in 1997, it was a sick twisted son of the rich parents. The murder weapon was a golf club right from the set of clubs in the killers families house, if the police treated everyone like normal people it would have been solved in a short time.

[mtmillionaire]

@rosevillmb haven't done much reading about the case, 'eh?

[Christine5000]

Both the parents are guilty of this murder, no one else. If only LE would realize the Rn is a confession, they could have had both killers locked up by now.

[lycrahoofie]

hmmmm patsy still did it

[goldengirl67]

cont'd. The intruder would have had to get JonBenet down the stairs w/o making any noise and how would he accomplish this? A stungun (what are those mysterious round rust-coloured marks?) Duct tape? Hitting her on the head first? or Did she go willingly because she knew the attacker? Plus, the rope around the garotte - wouldn't that have skin cells embedded in it from the attacker twisting the knots? or if there aren't any cells, he must have worn gloves sometimes: points to an intruder.

[beejays11]

One of the parents did it.

Cyril Wecht claims it was the father in his book.

Patsy WROTE the ranson note,EVERY handwriting expert thought she did.

Innocent people do not hire separate attorneys

( John and Patsy had separate attorneys from day 1!!)I

Innocent people DO NOT refuse to speak to the police.

[ladylike1980]

beejay11- Oh yeah, right, one of the parents did it. First it was surely John Ramsey who raped and strangled and bashed his 6 year olds head on the concrete floor. But he was completely cleared via DNA and ramson note. Then, it was Patsy who pulled the whole stunt! Steve Thomas is a drug cop. He knows NOTHING about murder. His lazy ass is the reason the killer is still at large. No one ever believed Patsy did this except Dumbass Steve Thomas. Cyril Wecht is crazy.

[Mindwave]

and idiots DO NOT post non-sense on The Internet

[ladylike1980]

This makes me so angry. JonBenet is rolling

in her grave over what this man did to her

innocent parents. There is no evidence, whatsoever that the parents killed JonBenet -

Even this bastard said John Ramsey has nothing

to do with it. Yet, Thomas wants us to believe Pasty, bashed her daughters head in

and he glossed over the knot that was made to

strangle JonBenet. How the hell did Patsy learn to make such a thing? Especially after

she just "killed her daughter?"

[ladylike1980]

My ass, Steve Thomas is a hero. I scanned

his book at the library. I love how he glossed over the extremely complicated knot that he claims Pasty made to strangle JonBenet. He claims Patsy bashed JonBenet's head so hard that in itself it would have killed her. Then, when she still wasn't dead

she took JonBenet to the basement and made

a knot that even an Eagle Scout wouldn't know

how to make, and strangled her. All over

bedwetting!!!!

JonBenet is rolling over in her grave!

[captainredneck1983]

Wrong! The chief prosecutor said that the knot was NOT complicated. His exact words were "very simple knots."

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

Look it up!! Expects noted that the construction of the garrote required special knowledge of knots. Oh yeah, right! Patsy, who had no prior violence, freaked out, bashed her 6 years old head in, wrote a 3 page ramson note, tied a garrote around Jon Benets neck, killed her and then when back to being perfectly normal again. Dumbass, drug cop

Steve Thomas believes his own fairy tale.

DNA was found clearing Patsy anyway.

Thomas ruined the investigation.

[captainredneck1983]

Look it up?! I've forgotten more about this case than most people will ever know!

If you want the chief prosecutor's exact words, I can give 'em to ya. This "special knowledge" nonsense came from an "investigator" with a habit of inventing evidence out of thin air.

As for your scenario, I don't necessarily think it happened that way. I think Patsy was a troubled woman who had good reason to freak out. And don't even WASTE my time telling me about "normal!" Going on TV drugged out of her mind!

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

As a mother, I can tell you that Pasty loved her daughter. Also, if my child was murdered and I had to go on TV a few days/week later - I would need a ton of meds too! Pasty was cleared of the crime because they found DNA that did not belong to any family. I knew from the get go that she did not murder her daughter. Jon Benet was sexually abused by the murderer. Explain that!!!

I would never move to Boulder, CO. The detectives are retarded.

[captainredneck1983]

I have no doubt she loved her daughter. None. And it wasn't just "a few days later." She THREW herself at the media, al the while drugged. You watch her against Thomas on Larry King and tell me she's not loaded!

As for DNA, DNA is everywhere, and the more sensitive the tests get, the more likely they are to find worthless DNA, just like they did here. And you're darn right JonBenet was sexually abused. According to John McCann and Richard Krugman, she'd been abused for a long time!

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

Oh, please! Are you telling me Patsy sexually abused JonBenet on Christmas night and then killed her. Laughable, just laughable. Steve Thomas the drug cop did such a disservice to JonBenet. The parents did not kill her. I am not saying

Patsy was perfect. The beauty pagaent nonsense is a terrible message to send to a girl. But, that is Patsy's only crime.

She was over the top in a lot of ways -

but she didn't kill JonBenet.

[captainredneck1983]

No, I'm saying that someone abused her before Christmas night. The violation that night was just staging to cover up the prior injuries.

If the parents didn't kill her, they know darn well who did. The chief prosecutor said that the person who killed JonBenet was an "over-the-top" person.

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

You must not have a daughter. Any mother would shoot a man who was sexually molesting her baby girl. John Ramsey and Burke were excluded beyond all doubt. So, she was not covering up for them. That would leave us with her. No way in hell did Patsy sexually abuse and then kill JonBenet.

The case will always remain unsolved.

Patsy was not "over the top" in a violent way!! The current prosecutor in Boulder

cleared all of the Ramsey's. No way, no how did they do it.

[captainredneck1983]

Most people think that a mother would do that, but the fact is, far too many women stand by the men who molest their daughters. Don't take my word for it. There are lots of books and articles on that very subject. "Miss America By Day" is one of them.

No one said she was over the top in a violent way. What they said was her theatrical personality went to work in the staging. And as the prosecutor, she was in the Ramseys' pocket. That's a fact, backed up by people who used to work for her.

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

But, who was Pasty Ramsey protecting?

They ruled out Burke and John Ramsey.

Also, you have some knowledge on the case. The ransom note. The person who wrote the note referred to John Ramsey as a Southerner. The note said

"use your good southern common sense." Patsy knew he was from Michigan and was a midwest guy, not from the South. But, many associates would assume he was from the South, since he moved from Atlanta. This is just a tidbit.

[captainredneck1983]

My brother believes Patsy was protecting her own father, who he believes molested her and her sisters. He makes a good argument.

Some knowledge? I'm writing a book about the case!

I see your point about the note, but you might find it interesting that Patsy's family often referred to John as having "good Southern common sense" as a family joke. HMM!

[ladylike1980]

But, Patsy's father was not in the house on Christmas night. Who killed JonBenet? We know it was not Burke or John Ramsey. In the beginning, there was reason to believe that Patsy was protecting John or Burke. Turns out, they are completely ruled out.  JonBenet WAS

sexually molested Christmas night. Patsy did not do it. She also did not bash JonBenets head, strangle her, etc. I think it was someone they knew that killed JonBenet, but who?

[captainredneck1983]

Her father was not in the house that night, but he might have been the one who abused JonBenet in the past. If JonBenet said something, that could easily have caused a psychotic episode.

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

With all due respect, your theory is ridiculous. Why can't you accept the fact

that Patsy Ramsey didn't do it. It makes no freaking sense that this church lady

freaked out on Xmas night on the daughter she adored - bashing her head in, strangling her, and sexually molesting her. The found evidence that JonBenet

was sexually molested the night she was killed. They found DNA on her underware

that belongs to her killer. This DNA matches no one in the family.

[captainredneck1983]

Ridiculous?!

I can't accept it because it's what happened! I don't know what's so damn hard to understand about that! As for making no sense, you SHOW ME ONE child murder that DOES make sense! That DNA is worthless. They can't even be sure it's from that night because it's so degraded.

[ladylike1980]

captainredneck1983 -

The Prosecuter in Boulder, CO - has come out and apologized to the family

for wrongly accusing the Ramsey's of a crime they did not commit. The prosecuters office said they have DNA from JonBenet's underware that matches

NONE of the family members. If Boulder, CO knows that the Ramsey's are completely innocent, why can't you accept this? No way did church lady Patsy molest her daughter Christmas night and kill her. That is a theory on a retard would

believe.

[captainredneck1983]

I'm aware of what the prosecutor said and did. I'm also aware of how she was in the Ramseys' pocket from Day One, That's a fact, confirmed by several people who used to work with her.

Church lady?Llike nobody who praises Jesus ever did anything bad, right?

Retard, huh? I've been a pretty good sport up to now, but you just crossed the line.

[goldengirl67]

Ladylike1980: I have to agree with you. I have seen the autopsy photos and came to the strong conclusion that only a sick and twisted bastard could do such a thing - from what I can gather, her parents couldn't have done all that to her - no way, it's way too out of character and no motive. I do think it was a man who was comfortable inside their house and watched the house to make sure they left on the 25th and felt they would be gone for a few hours. Everyone has their theories. cont'd.

[rosevillmb]

Also look at this clips,JonBenet investigation

[rosevillmb]

YES We CAN SEE THAT,THE KILLER IS STILL OUT THERE.WHAT A HERO HY IS,I THINK HY IS A IDIOT WHO RUINED THE WHOLE CASE.

[wj5mjk]

Steve is truly JonBenet's hero.

Ramsey's fiber evidence was not found until after Thomas published his book.IMO it changes the motive,as well as when John became involved in the cover-up,but not the killer,whom I believe to be Patsy,as does Thomas.

Google Websleuths and Forums for Justice if you want to know the real truth about this case(including the handwriting analysis and the so-called dna 'evidence').

There is no 1-5 scale of handwriting.That is just something the Ramsey Spin Team made up.

[captainredneck1983]

Right on ALL counts!

[danalynn5150]

Steve Thomas is an idiot and thank God no longer serves in law enforcement. You are just as bad as Linda Arndt who thought that John was guilty because of the look in his eyes. Good Lord! STEVE'S EVIDENCE? 1 OUT OF 4 handwriting experts thought that there was a 20% chance that Patsey had done it. Then he thinks she did it cuz the KID WET THE BED? ARE YOU THAT STUPID?! THANKS FOR WORKING THE LEADS YOU DIPSHIT. YOU LET A CHILD MURDERER GO FREE.

[rosevillmb]

a good cop???well who did kill Jonbenet?

Steve Thomas blamed the parents,but the DNA ruled the parents out.So a hero,a good cop I don't think so

[will0505]

How did sweater fibers from John Ramsey get in the underwear of Jon Benet? Why didn't the Ramseys' cooperate with police from Day 1? They "lawyered up" and refused to talk to investigators from the start. This is the same Boulder prosecutor that arrested John Mark Karr. She's an incompetent DA. Need I say more? This does not clear the Ramseys'.

[nana1358]

Great job Steve. Thanks for all the hard work and a great book.

[Dee1271]

she llooks like she'll bite your neck and bleed u dry!!

BTW i respect Steve xxx

[doggysector]

Steve's a great guy. He certainly deserved alot better then he got.

[jm2trash]

why? what happened to him?

[doggysector]

He ended up resiging from the boulder P.D. there is a copy of his resignation in the book Perfect Murder Perfect Town. He talks about it in his book called "Jon Bonet, inside the investigation" The Ramsey's sued him for "libel" and he was a good cop doing his job. I have gotten to know him and he is a good guy.

[FFJRiverRat]

A real live American Hero!

[luvmycatz]

i respect him and i like his book