Richard Hell & Voidoids - Blank Generation

[Dollface660999]

:D this is awesome.

[MrSKINFLICK]

0:57: Is that Debbie Harry (Blondie) in the front row? I guess so !

[stevenicholls1986]

good old Marc Bell !!!! legend

[udohood]

Its such a gamble when you get a face..........Everythings realative to what you did while you might have just led life as "square"......while time was passing, while you irreplacable youth was going by......Richard Hell decided to be "on fire" and so dacades later we're still litsening....you with tis shitti comment. might be fat or ugly or both, missing a limb perhaps.....but Richard didnt like his self either...but he didnt let that interfere with his sense of beauty

[jasonismyhomie]

@MrHumongoloid I actually intended my comment to reflect the 'up one's own assness' of many typical 'know it all' type fans who get sucked into the cesspool of fact based minutia & petty arguments over 'scene' details, but I'll ruminate over what you had to say. I think the whole world is up it's own ass in general & is in danger of descending into an eternal darkness, myself included... WHO SHUT OUT THE LIGHTS?

[TheWendyHour]

Classic !!

[sebass75]

Marky Ramone en la bateria!

[touchandgod]

Hellyes.

[AM90lovesKim]

Is this a movie?

[andybarone1984]

what's the context of this scene?

[uN00b]

@andybarone1984 This is CGBG's.

[RossM3838]

@andybarone1984 Its from a fictional movie. The movie isn't very good and long forgotten, but the music, recorded live, is fantastic.

[jfpOne23]

Jason says it quite writhish.

[jasonismyhomie]

being really far up your own ass is pretty 'punk', or so i hear. the inner sanctum of the anus is really a quite seminal environment - not only is it a breeding ground for creation, its dark, unsavory, and a rather gritty locale - not for the faint of heart, mind you. though romanticized, not many can survive there, and those who do don't seem to make it long before they are expelled into the cruel toilet bowl of the masses. here that they are fed upon and dissected by the parasitic know it all.

[TrevorRamone]

@jasonismyhomie but did you see marky ramone on drums? what a man

[NickUhWush]

@jasonismyhomie lolwut?

[inresponsetoyousir]

@jasonismyhomie "i always thought a punk was someone who took it in the ass" - William Burroughs

[RossM3838]

@VenamousMuffin they substitute screeching and feigned anger because they lack the imagination, skill, dare, audacity and inventiveness of the originals.

[moimoiac]

my spirit is there!

[RossM3838]

it really doesn't matter who came first. Great rock and roll is great rock and roll, regardless of who came first.

[ashetonpop]

Richard Hell was the blue Print for the Rotten and Vicious Look. But they were all great, who cares.

[crankenstyne]

How is there even an argument? Look, Iggy, VU, kicked it all off with the attitude of chaos trumps musicianship as far as exciting rock & roll goes. MC5, NY Dolls kept that idea going while the Ramones brought in the raw simple power to the table, Richard Hell introduced the gen-x ideology and the basic look. McLaren took all these elements back to the UK and put them all together, added a bit of rebellious angst, fine tuned the fashion, and gave it all an identity by calling it punk rock.

[cordedpoodle]

@crankenstyne The attitude goes back to the libertines, the bohemians, the pre-raphaelites or even the cynics. Jerry Lee Lewis had moments that would shame some punks (Star Club Hamburg). Screamin' Jay, Howlin' Wolf. There has always been an underground and people have always needed labels. But labels don't fit the underground. Labels are a useless and lazy way to describe the artistic underground.

[harveyderf]

@cordedpoodle let me paraphrase the great anti nowhere league: SO WHAT SO WHAT YOU BORING LITTLE PONCE!

[jonnieslaughter]

Seriously, the only interesting thing about the Voidoids then or now is Robert Quine's guitar. Richard Hell was just better at self promotion.

[VegaValentino]

But the punk whas bigger in uk than us.

[VegaValentino]

Well it all started in usa whit bands like mc5 and new york dolls, and thanks for Hell johnny rotten got his style. The ramones in usa recorded their album before sex pistols, the pistols is mostly famous for dramas and not for music, peopol that really work, whas the punks in usa, and belive it or not, punk dident start in uk it whas in us.

[bobbylatte]

I haven't seen this film in many years. I started watching the DVD today and felt a little homesick. Missing an era long gone and wishing my bed was still there.

We spent this entire cold winter night held hostage inside CBGB retaking this scene for a few hours. I am sitting with Jahn (then - Excessive) and Chris Parker on the left in front of Ivan.

[OneSavageJesus]

God Blessed Punk, an American Original! 

[KurtZeppelin12]

In my interpretation, punk started with The Stooges and the people from CBGB's, but it wasn't something really big until Sex Pistols and the other british guys. Punk may have born in NY, but got stronger in London. Actually, the people from this cities were always travelling to the other. In my opinion it's very "not punk" to keep fighting about this.

[mrdoolittle906605]

Punk came from New York City. Is this even a debate? The UK stole from America and tried to claim it as their own. Before punk, Rock and Roll was Blues and that too came from American Blacks. To borrow is fine but don't distort history or truth.

[DeeDeeVerlaine]

What happens next! I wanna see this! Can someone please post this!

[philstutt]

Robert Quine was one of the best guitarists to grace the planet.

[DeeDeeVerlaine]

I need to get this movie!

[Heimarbeit666]

oh so sweet...

[VegaValentino]

OMG I love Richard soo. I would like If somebody lay This movie on YOUTUBE please!!!

[MacGillicuddly]

Great clip. Bob Quine on guitar, may he RIP.

[cottageorgan]

Quine was bald..but he was bitchin'...

snake fingered devil. RIP Bob. A.

[KongOfNithing]

Like that song...

But why did he go off the stage?? :P

[THARSHTILDEATH]

RICHARD HELL RULES!!!!!!!!

[Gualberto185]

MARKY RAMONE

[stargate121]

I wish the audio was synced better. Where is this clip from?

[Cloudburst2000]

It is from the movie Blank Generation.

[lyndyyy]

richard hell = fu'king king!

[punkbabydoll77]

richard hell was the one who started the ripped clothing punk thing with the safety pins...so i read..

[NightIsAlive]

Sexy.

[harryrag100]

Didn't Malcolm McLaren himself say he STOLE everything from Richard Hell?...As i remember, nobody in N.Y. at that time ('74/'75) called themselves "punk"...

[andymccoy78]

Quite agree with reaperpro, even tho' the UK had great punk band too. US bands...maybe more natural and sincerely into music yeah. Whatever, Bob Quine RIP too.

[mikelunz]

I agree

[sallinaki]

WOW!!!

[reaperpro]

Most of the 70s brit punk stuff dates really badly now because most of those bands were just trying to make a fast buck and have a hit single. The Americans (Hell, Smith, Ramones, etc) were real musicians and poets creating real rock'n'roll. Bob Quine R.I.P.

[theface321]

Yeah but they were so damn old compared to us London punks...I was 14/15 yrs old...I bet some of the Americans were pushing 30...No wonder they were better musicians!! Is that all it was about music...Not in my book !!!

[DarealIdroo]

if its not about the music then its about nothing and whats the point, making money guess thats all that mattered to the brit punk scene

[bdegrande]

There were plenty of young US punks also, and, yes, here it was about the music, as there was little or no hope of commercial success. Malcolm McLaren and others took on the traditional British role of taking a vital musical style and reducing it to a fashion statement.

[mikelunz]

No one can get pissed like US bands, real angst and aggression, no gimmick, all fuck you

[zbouaerg]

I suppose you have more musicality than, say, strummer or curtis. Those greedy bastards...

Stop commenting like a bunch of retarded 15 year old girls with brain tumor, you pompous jerks.

Or i'll go berserk.

ougk

[cottageorgan]

What???

[thelittlehero]

I agree patti smith is punk. Punk is about freedom to express one's individual personality. Absorbing things you like, thinking for yourself, creativity, going against the norm. I mean look at the minutemen from san pedro, they didn't look or even have a traditional punk sound. To me that's punk rock.

[drawanotherbreath]

Patti Smith is punk like Black Sabbath were heavy metal they both predated the name of the style they were a major influence to.

[jpzeitlin]

so wer ethe sonics, mc5 and the stooges.... they all influenced basicly everyone in punk but didnt quite put their finger on the term yet.

[ggforeigner]

@drawanotherbreath ... very nice the comment !! cheers, gg

[paperbackanna]

patti smith is punk as fuck. haters.

[mudfuck31]

awesome!!

[DKFAN90]

who cares

[DikkSteini]

This is from the movie "Blank Generation" with Carole Bouquet. This isn't the Amos Poe movie.

[elbuccanero]

Copied from the 60s track: Bob McFadden and Dor - The Beat Generation

[genrel1961]

you are all wrong!! I was the first punk band

[pyjamapie]

Tzara 1:23: In the Beginning there was DAda then Garage, Velvets then Punk... i reckon punk happened simultaneously from both sides of the water.. just the good ole zeitgeist

[strangeparty]

No, it happened in New York first.

[kalterkaffee]

I belong to the blank generation!

[Fireperv]

What the hell is the argument !!! It's like some old prog fan arguing about Keith Emerson or the Guy from Yes being able to play Rachmaninov, ITS PUNK It's the attitude not the location !

[swilltest]

Rachmaninov was the first punk musiker you fux

[Fireperv]

I wouldn't have thought this comment was a cause for abuse !

[deadzeppelin]

Few people understand punk like you.

[Helloworldbloodyhell]

Quite simply the origins of "punk" as a genre was the UK there's no debate over that however some of the best punk did indeed come from overseas.

So simply live with it

[deadzeppelin]

Simply wrong. There is piles of evidence, books, interviews, music. Punk is from New York. Live with that.

UK had great bands. They brought new things to the genre. By the time of post-punk they were doing more interesting things than much of New York. But still, punk is from New York. Again New York.

Here's how you live with it, realize the whole label called "punk" is completely arbitrary. There were many "punk" attitudes in music on both sides of the sea, years before "punk" started.

[Goatboyfly]

Yes punk originated in the UK. America gave us " new wave", a lot of which was great, but they only called themselves punk retrospectively. Richard Hell is still brilliant though....

[strangeparty]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[pyjamapie]

i know what i'm talking about, course i've heard of NY Dolls and the the stooges.. ever heard of theDeviants, Pink Fairies?

THE SOCIAL DEVIANTS: "They were the first act to ever be introduced as a Punk rock band by the underground DJ Jeff Dexter at Tiles Club in Londons Oxford Street, August 15 1967

But hey, i'm guessing your'e american i do know MC5 are the truest punk rock band ever..

[pyjamapie]

You don't know what you're talking about.

[mrmcgurgles]

But who truly was the first real punk band? My bet is on U. S. turf. Velvet Underground? Kingsmen? ? and the Mysterians? MC5? Iggy?

But possibly the Who could be considered the first legitimate band that had that punk quality.

or the Monks! Germany!

whatever, it's still great rock'n'roll.

[sshake0appeal]

its not rock 'n' roll

lol

[eoinnll]

Dave Marsh used the phrase "punk rock" in his Looney Tunes column in the May 1971 issue of Creem. "Culturally perverse from birth, I decided that this insult would be better construted as a compliment, especially given the alternative to such punkist behavior, which I figured was acting like a dignified asshole." Marsh used the term to define a canon of proto-punk bands, including the Velvets, Stooges, MC5, the Modern Lovers and the New York Dolls (DeRogatis, Let It Blurt, 118-119) Amercan.

[strangeparty]

Ever heard of Iggy Pop or the NY Dolls?

[xreddragonx]

More Eurosnobs trying to stir shit about the punk debate. You wouldn't have to do this if you were so damn secure in your knowledge about this. Your arguments alwys come down to, "yea that stuff may be older, but it wasn't angry/political enough so it wasn't really punk". Crap comments that will never convince intelligent people. I don't know why you guys just can't be happy that you popularized punk, gotta try to claim invention too.

[oblitz11111]

yeah punk came from america, i'm not gonna argue that, but some american stuff has been wrongly branded like Patti Smith for example. Its funny really that punk had its biggest sucess in the united kingdom so It may have come from America originally but the Best punk came from the UK (no not the Sex Pistols) The Clash (only their first album), The Damned, Stiff little fingers, the Buzzcocks, The stranglers... there's a lot more of it. TBH this is all theoretical because imo Mods were punks

[mchetakuso]

What is "the best punk"? That's all a matter of opinion. I love the bands you mentioned, but the Ramones, Richard Hell, Television, New York Dolls, The STOOGES, The Sonics, The Monks, and on and on and on all came first.

BTW, how has Patti Smith been "wrongly branded" as punk? And while we're at it, I believe Suicide (from NYC, no guitar, bass or drums) were actually the first group to use the term "punk" to describe music.

[DarealIdroo]

the term punk came from the media as a derisive term for music that was accepted by the mass sheep mentality- the disco crowd thin lizzy fans etc. the ramones richard hell and many others clearly stated that they never set out to create punk rock nor did they bill themselves as punk bands

[fredzdedhaha]

A lot of Thin Lizzy fans got their hair cut and became punks

Thin Lizzy and punk co-existed, see "The Greedy Bastards, half Pistols, half Lizyy

Of all metal bands, Lizzy were the closest to punk

[xreddragonx]

@fredzdedhaha Thin Lizzy wasn't punk. They were metal. Two different things. End of story.

[drawanotherbreath]

'Punk' was the name of the New York magazine which featured the culture which later became known as punk.

[DarealIdroo]

actually Ed Sanders of The Fugs was the first to use the term punk rock back in 1970. He described his solo album Truckstop as being "punk rock with redneck sentimentality". that was some time before the fanzine known as Punk came along, The Ramones for many years hated that they were labeled as a punk rock band because the word punk also refers to someone who is a cell block bitch and they never thought of themselves as anybodys bitch

[redtreen]

you are a fucking idiot

[Cloudburst2000]

I love The Clash and all, but my fave punk band is Richard Hell and the Voidoids. I really like most of the American punk bands better than the British punk bands.

[EliLaPunk]

@Cloudburst2000 They're awsome

[TheSexpistols4ever]

eh, some american punk is pretty good, but you cant beat the sex pistols an the clash. but this is, by far, the best punk song ever.

[cottageorgan]

"Don't give me no lip Child"...best proto punk song ever...

[DevinMiller72]

@xreddragonx Who really cares, we aren't talking about the Bible here! The Stooges, The Sonics, Jerry Lee, The Saints, New York Dolls ... there was no 'first', that was a media creation, and xreddragonx, there was no invention, ever in music ... we borrow, steal, etc. What a great clip, that is all that matters!

[xreddragonx]

@DevinMiller72 Look, I wouldn't have to had say what I did if it wasn't for moronic snobs FALSELY trying to claim that punk rock was first developed in the U.K.(despite the loads of credible music literature, and actual history proving otherwise). I like bands from both scenes, but I had to point out where they were wrong. Why aren't you directing your complaint toward them? I'm not claiming anyone "invented punk", either.

[xreddragonx]

@DevinMiller72 The snobs were the ones actually claiming that punk was a UK "invention". And although there wasn't an "invention" point, there are actual instances of important punk "milestones", whether you like it or not. The Ramones are on record as the first officially designated punk band in kicking off the movement-they didn't invent it, but they are an inaugural point in the transition from proto-punk. Also, if you don't "care", you shouldn't have responded.

[devinmillermedia]

I wouldn't ever dispute your claim that the Ramones are the first punk rock band, but I wouldn't get into a bar fight over it if someone said otherwise. Who cares if a few lime suckers want to think the U.K. is the birthplace of punk? They have a right to their opinion.

One thing that never seems to change on youtube comments is the opposing person's viewpoint. People just become more polarized and/or self-righteous. Rock'n'roll history is full of myth and outright lies, def. not holy writ.

[RossM3838]

@devinmillermedia The "punk rock" community in New York was a very close knit group. They all influenced each other. The fine drummer here in this film is Marc Bell who would soon after give a huge boost to the Ramones.

[DevinMiller72]

@RossM3838 Yes! One of the greatest careers in music in my opinion. Have you ever heard his teen band Dust? There are some vids on Youtube.

[bcimhe]

@xreddragonx next you'll try to convince us the beatles didn't invent rock n roll!

[tomcornhole]

@bcimhe no,chuck berry did

[bcimhe]

@tomcornhole you see the point was that i was being sarcastic. also, while chuck berry is one of the greatest performers of all time, rock & roll itself had been around for awhile when he released his first record in 1955. might want to check out big joe turner, jackie brenston, little richard, fats domino, and jimmy preston. these are all predecessors of berry's. if you like chuck berry you'll probably like them as well.

[tomcornhole]

@bcimhe most of that stuff is boring,though i'll admit it precedes chUck by a few years. now give me some screamin' Jay hawkins, some eddie cochRan,so much old music is so boring,but some, so supremely seminal

[drawanotherbreath]

Malcolm McLaren came to New York, got venereal disease, liked what he heard and brought it back to the UK. Blank Generation is the influence for the song Pretty Vacant. The term 'punk' comes from the NY magazine created to cover the culture going on at the time.

Rebellion has always been a part of rock and roll, so to think that there is going to be some start date or place that can be pin-pointed is absurd, but the term 'punk' is most certainly American.

[73mandala]

@drawanotherbreath yeah there was also a great band from Australia who went to the States and the UK back in the early 70s and hated being labelled punks they were called the saints and they were an awsome powerhouse,some journo said of them"you like quo or ramones? this band rubs them into the dirt"

[SoldierofFortune07]

who gives a fuck where it started

just enjoy it

[FunnyHaHaFunnyHaHa]

Oh pulease! USA was the inventor of punk rock Richard Hell Tom Verlaine Patti Smith Talking Heads Ramones Diktators Dead Boys Blondie Plasmatics Cramps Legs McNeill Television. That is the FACT!

[sshake0appeal]

yh punk rock may have come from america but not punk,they are two different things

[8DiagramsOfDeath]

CLASSIC

[invalidusernamegabo]

what a great end

[shoeshinee]

whydid he walk off at the end im a bit confused about that

[divinedgar]

this is from a movie of the same name. see it and you'll get it.

the movie is so bad, it's great.

i love this song. great lyrics.

"it's such a gamble when you get a face".

[SweetPretendin]

Thunders and Voidoids were the best from New York no doubt.

[RockRican]

Dude you just hit the nail on the head. Thunders/ heartbreakers, Richard Hell/ Voidoids, The Dictators, Televison etc best bands from New York in that age.

[extremelegend17]

Probs thebest thing to come out of the new york scene, the rest was shit. It fucks me off when people like the ramones and that reckon they started the UK scene. did they fuck. In my opinion the US scene was just a load of greasy long haired 25 year olds in leather jackets trying but failing to create something. The Uk scene was much more cultural.

[ClashCityRockers0]

Not at all- some of the most original punk came out of NYC. The Voidoids were amazing, as were th Cramps and Talking Heads. The UK scene was largely composed of imitations, but there were some gems like the Clash and th Nips and the Jam

[KoolGTHC]

u are so on point that fuck dosen't know what hes talikn about. The uk scene pretty much got there style from richard hell. and hes going to say the UK scene has more culture. he don't understand that different stuff was happening in different parts of the world.

[ClashCityRockers0]

Yeah I know, McLaren admitted as much. I would say there was more "culture" culture in the NY scene, but that doesn't mean the UK scene was less valid. Thanks!

[deadzeppelin]

This is the never ending debate. It's the New York scene. They had more maturity in their lyrics, better song writing. True they often tended to be a little older but that's because they were doing it for several years already, these bands were around since the mid 70's. Read the interviews and biographies, New York bands were kind of like what the fuck in going on ever hear in the UK, this is what they think punk is? In my opinion UK didn't catch up till post-Punk (Manchester).

[deadzeppelin]

By they way I'm speaking in generalities, of course there were great UK bands in '77 and shitty New York ones, but I feel generally New York was ahead of the UK for at least a few years.

[ClashCityRockers0]

I suppose I agree... I just don't want to completely discredit the UK scene because at least some of them did their own thing with it, but in general I do agree. Richard Hell Meyers couldn't even believe what was going on in the UK-- it seemed an alien culture to him.

[xerochi]

The doctor grabbed my throat and yelled "God's consolation prize!"

Fucking. Epic. Lyric.

I DO belong to the blank generation.

Somewhere between GenX and EMO kids.

[ClashCityRockers0]

I belong to the ___ generation.

[Kudell46and2]

everyone just shut the fuck up and admire on silence to the father of Punk.

peace and (L)

cheers

bye

[ClashCityRockers0]

Hear, hear !!! ;)

[coolhandfin]

Tinrooflighthouse is a cocksmoker!

This song on the other hand is great.

[tinrooflighthouse]

Nah,I think YOU meant to say

"Tinrooflighthouse is great"

and

"this song on the other hand is a cocksucker!"

I disagree though,I happen to like the song.

[tinrooflighthouse]

What's the buzz about CBGB"s??

Just another example of the media's judeocentristgoyimveneerdistra­ctionaristic tactic.

Who cares about that place except those who hung out there.

[197782]

fuck you douchebag, it was one of the original underground venues that provided a place for bands that had trouble trying to book shows to play

[tinrooflighthouse]

My point is over your head,apparently.

Pff...pesky kid.

[ClashCityRockers0]

@ tinroof

Anyone interested in music history would care, especially if they want to see the place their favourite groups performed in.

[ClashCityRockers0]

"judeocentrist"? Man ...

[tinrooflighthouse]

I know it,huh?

Yer all confused in all,as in all of you and the people who hate what I say..

...it's probably a good idea to actually *get* what I say *before* hating it..or hating me for that matter.

[ClashCityRockers0]

No, I think you are confused. I do not hate what you say, I am merely answering your question.

I don't hate you, but you do seem to be a tad unintelligent. I could be wrong, but by the way you portray yourself ...

What do you know btw?

[tomosbananas]

its famous because it was so important in the NYC punk scene and so many famous bands started out playing gigs there.

[monkfistlust]

scum god I KNOW CBGBS is gone long gone it was gone in a way in the 80s I was at the last shows I knew Hilly and his family well and the VOIDOIDS and just about anyone that mattered and matters Last thing I need is a CBGB history lesson!

I practically lived there ( 3 blocks away actually) and I never paid to get in or 4 drinks I was one of Hillys many rock n roll children. I ve written about it and been interviewed about it I am also a photographer

so I dont think I need a correction!

[monkfistlust]

this is filmed in cbgbs for Hells movie BLANK GENERATION the song its from an old ROD MCQUEN song I BELONG TO THE BEAT GENERATION even MAMIE VAN DOREN sang the original .... other than the blank (beat and take anytime (each time) the rest They wrote

best album MARK BELL was the greatest drummer in the VOIDOIDS and Quinn AND Ivan with out them HELL was nothing

thats how cbgbs was now its a boutique with 150 dollar tee shirts. O well, there goes the neighborhood

[scumgod13]

CBGBs is long Closed.

[ClashCityRockers0]

How is it that Hell is nothing when he wrote all the brilliant lyrics? He stands up very very well on his own.

[ClashCityRockers0]

The music was terrific, don't get me wrong, but if you read his lyrics by themselves they lose nothing.

[ClashCityRockers0]

Huh? Pourquoi est-ce que Youtube l'a mis deux fois? :S

[ClashCityRockers0]

<3<3<3 RICHARD HELL IS THE BEST <3<3<3

"I was sayin' lemme out of here before I was, even born it's such a gamble when you get a face .... it's fascinatin' to observe what the mirror does but, when I dine it's for the wall that I set a place!"

"I belong to the Blank generation but

"I can, take it or leave it each time well ....

"I belong to the ____ generation but

"I can take it or leave it each time!"

[nri1969]

Robert Quine. May he rest in peace.

[Frumess]

oh this is from the movie blank generation

[shan128]

"The doctor grabbed my throat and said 'God's consolation prize'" Who else could write stuff like that?

[ClashCityRockers0]

Who else could write that? Theresa Stern

[shan128]

Yeah, but can she sing?

[ClashCityRockers0]

Who? Me? I can. What's more, I can mimic Richard singing.

[ClashCityRockers0]

<3<3<3 RICHARD HELL IS THE BEST <3<3<3

"I was sayin' lemme out of here before I was, even born it's such a gamble when you get a face .... it's fascinatin' to observe what the mirror does but, when I dine it's for the wall that I set a place"

"I belong to the Blank generation and,

"I can, take it or leave it each time well,

"I belong to the ___ generation and,

"I can take it or leave it each time!"

[davidbmason]

This is fantastic. What history and it certainly illustrates the origin of punk music BEFORE the English punk bands. If anyone has more of this type of stuff, please post it. Thanks.

[doctorluv]

Awesome movie and fantastic song. I remember they had "New Pleasure" on this site but for some reason they removed it. Thanks for posting this up. I have several Richard Hell and early punk videos if your at all interested.