I understand what youre saying, but I guess my question hasnt become clear to you:
We have the following premises:
No more probes. No more money in the bank. No flying units out in the field. There is no way to reach the CC.
I would like to know what happens then, if there are any rules that prohibit the Terran from playing chicken - or if then a draw would have to be requested.
I think that stork's "creative" play is what won him the Incruit OSL, and I really like this variety of play. (sorry if you think double cheese is not variety or creative, but honestly nobody could have expected that)
You both should do more duals, this is a very enjoyable combination... just a little more volume on Psy's mic next time, for a optimal experience. Thanks for your effort, guys.
I don't know what Psyonicreaver is talking about though, because Stork has the best PvT in the world. In fact ForGG pick Stork's group for this MSL because Stork kept killing him before and caused his TvP to slump. So he wanted revenge.
Stork is also widely regarded as a master of "build order" among progamers. If he does a cheesy build, it's because the build is strong.
You mean the game a couple of months ago on Neo Harmony? The one where all the commentators were saying how Flash was winning, while totally ignoring Stork's significant econ advantage. And then Stork kept suiciding his armies into Flash's seige tanks, and STILL end up pwning Flash?
Psyreaver saying Stork lacks macro is like saying Jaedong doesn't like to use mutas, or that Flash doesn't like to fast expand. It's pretty much as far from the truth as one can get.
And as someone else pointed out, ForGG is great at timing pushes. Hence his 2-fac build against Stork in the first game.
Stork has great macro of course. But It could against terran be the weekest point in his game like Psy said, even though he is an all-around player.. I thought about the Bacchus OSL finals when Flash really beat him hard in late game macro when i made my reference to Flash.
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What!? ROFL... Oh, thanks for the laugh.
Okay, I originally decided your post is so bad it shouldn't be dignified with a response. But since Stork is my favorite player, and I know know many people here haven't watched that series, I can't let something as blatantly wrong as this go(same with Psyreaver's comment).
Please, for the love of God go watch that series first before writing nonsense. Watch that series and his previous games against Flash. Then you'll understand why Flash owned him.
Well, it's fairly arbitrary. S-class usually denotes champion caliber player(Flash, Stork, Bisu, Jaedong) while A-class are good players who haven't had as much success. Anything below is generally considered mediocre or scrubs.
Thanks. Interesting game.
Chrijz 2 years ago
Psy you're mic is really quiet compared to Diggity's.
Wallrunner1992 3 years ago
haha arnold
nathones 3 years ago
GET TO THE CHOPPA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
smweyman 3 years ago 2
Storks late-game PvT is now "shrouded in mystery" OMFGLOL! great line there especially since diggity repeated it. xD
gg, thanks for doing these. Storks gotta fall though. you dont double cheese like that! *shakes head*
phaeryen 3 years ago
Why didnt gogo just kill off storks probes, floats away his CC into safety and then waits until storks demands a draw?
Do the rules say anything about that?
T3rraBahamut 3 years ago
Won't work. Stork just saves up 200-ish minerals, kills GoGo's base. Then he goes back and kills the vulture and it's over.
inf0phreak 3 years ago
? my question was:
Id like to know what happens when gogo floats away his CC over some water where the goons cant get it.
Then it would be a draw situation.
T3rraBahamut 3 years ago
What have you been smoking?
1) Send 1 Dragoon back to your base and kill the Vulture while the rest of your Dragoons finish off the Terran's base.
2) Use your saved up minerals to build probes. Once you have enough minerals, build a Stargate and then a Scout.
3) Fly out, find and kill the Command Center.
4) Terran eliminated. OMG A WINNER IS YOU!
Seriously... did you even *think* before posting that?
inf0phreak 3 years ago
Why all the flaming
I understand what youre saying, but I guess my question hasnt become clear to you:
We have the following premises:
No more probes. No more money in the bank. No flying units out in the field. There is no way to reach the CC.
I would like to know what happens then, if there are any rules that prohibit the Terran from playing chicken - or if then a draw would have to be requested.
T3rraBahamut 3 years ago
There is no way in hell that Stork is so stupid that he'll spend his last 50 minerals on a probe before that vulture in his base is gone. EOD.
inf0phreak 3 years ago
Hypothetically
I accept that its improbable
T3rraBahamut 3 years ago
In such a case, the game is a draw and they replay the game.
The exact terms of winning is to destroy all opposing buildings. If neither side can destroy the other player's buildings, it's a draw.
iambaubo 3 years ago
indeed, the dinosuar bird protoss won by his build. well put rylaimtx. gg
deejflat 3 years ago
I think that stork's "creative" play is what won him the Incruit OSL, and I really like this variety of play. (sorry if you think double cheese is not variety or creative, but honestly nobody could have expected that)
Song Byung Goo Fighting!
agenttatsuda 3 years ago
imba protoss
NaturalTvventy 3 years ago
1. stork's PvT is top 3 and by far his best matchup
2. forGG's specialty is a timing attack sort of like Mind ( this was apparent when he 3-0'd jaedong with timing rine pushes"
3. stork's weakness is his ability to play straight up games resulting in build orders specifically made to counter him ( see flash BO on katrina )
4. in any strategy game, being predictable is your worst enemy ( flash with 14cc, stork with quick reavers )
rylaimtx 3 years ago 2
Was stork making pizza this group, he had enough cheese
PwnNubtarzz 3 years ago 2
You both should do more duals, this is a very enjoyable combination... just a little more volume on Psy's mic next time, for a optimal experience. Thanks for your effort, guys.
elasceta777 3 years ago
why would you not watch the first 2 games? because I didn't see stork vs. whoever on violtak. I only see sea vs gogo then straight to winners match
pronoob5 3 years ago
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kylglly 3 years ago
Why all the hate on Psy recently?? He's been one of the best for like years!
pianomikey0 3 years ago
I'm not gonna lie, I've never been a fan of Psy, but I think he did a great job in these games. Good commentaries from both you guys!
mrsmi1ey 3 years ago 2
pvt is storks strongest matchup statistically
RiCeTHEBACKSTAB 3 years ago
Great to see you back Psy. Your commentaries are great, they add something special.
elroi92 3 years ago
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Psyonic's voice is so high pitched, he sometimes sounds like a girl. Painful.
xodarapi 3 years ago
show a little respect son, psyonic was a SC commentator BEFORE it was cool.
RahsunSC 3 years ago 5
then dont listen, gtfo
lazylink 3 years ago 2
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xodarapi 3 years ago
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indeed, I don't listen to Psyonic's commentaries. This game was short, however, and it included Diggity.
I know Psy's been around forever. What a relief when he turned away from heavy commentating.
xodarapi 3 years ago
Couldn't he just have put down a bunker as soon as he saw the first zealot? That way he could have gotten the time to get the machine shop...
MannyBaltazaar 3 years ago
maybe stork had a hot date and wanted to make it a quickie.
quietrune 3 years ago 6
diggity kept saying forgg
qwertko123 3 years ago
He was talking about the first game in the series.
ZkilfinG2 3 years ago
gogo looks really ugly
7DarkTemplar7 3 years ago 3
agreed!!!!
guimontag 3 years ago 2
Starcraft isn`t beauty contest, asshole
salatetis 3 years ago
then you must be ugly too
7DarkTemplar7 3 years ago
girl, your manners are ugly
salatetis 3 years ago
Somebody had to say it. Nobody's hurting his feelings.
xodarapi 3 years ago
lol get out of there, get to the chopaa
thetubeaccount 3 years ago 2
I don't know what Psyonicreaver is talking about though, because Stork has the best PvT in the world. In fact ForGG pick Stork's group for this MSL because Stork kept killing him before and caused his TvP to slump. So he wanted revenge.
Stork is also widely regarded as a master of "build order" among progamers. If he does a cheesy build, it's because the build is strong.
iambaubo 3 years ago
Against S-Class Terrans, Stork has had trouble in his late game PvT.
PsyonicReaver 3 years ago 2
Who?
Stork has plenty of hole in his game when he's not on, but macro is certainly not one of them.
iambaubo 3 years ago
Flash...
elroi92 3 years ago
When did Stork have bad macro against Flash?
You mean the game a couple of months ago on Neo Harmony? The one where all the commentators were saying how Flash was winning, while totally ignoring Stork's significant econ advantage. And then Stork kept suiciding his armies into Flash's seige tanks, and STILL end up pwning Flash?
And Stork can't macro!?
iambaubo 3 years ago
so he has a significant econ advantage and beats flash?
Good macro i guess?
Zeabos 3 years ago
Do you even know what macro is?
Psyreaver saying Stork lacks macro is like saying Jaedong doesn't like to use mutas, or that Flash doesn't like to fast expand. It's pretty much as far from the truth as one can get.
And as someone else pointed out, ForGG is great at timing pushes. Hence his 2-fac build against Stork in the first game.
iambaubo 3 years ago
Stork has great macro of course. But It could against terran be the weekest point in his game like Psy said, even though he is an all-around player.. I thought about the Bacchus OSL finals when Flash really beat him hard in late game macro when i made my reference to Flash.
elroi92 3 years ago
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What!? ROFL... Oh, thanks for the laugh.
Okay, I originally decided your post is so bad it shouldn't be dignified with a response. But since Stork is my favorite player, and I know know many people here haven't watched that series, I can't let something as blatantly wrong as this go(same with Psyreaver's comment).
Please, for the love of God go watch that series first before writing nonsense. Watch that series and his previous games against Flash. Then you'll understand why Flash owned him.
iambaubo 3 years ago
Mmm...
Cheese...
...Go Stork!
Jings0b 3 years ago
What's below S-class player? How does the ranking system work?
bronx43 3 years ago
Well, it's fairly arbitrary. S-class usually denotes champion caliber player(Flash, Stork, Bisu, Jaedong) while A-class are good players who haven't had as much success. Anything below is generally considered mediocre or scrubs.
iambaubo 3 years ago
ranked from lowest to highest E-D-C-B-A-S
helgi111 3 years ago