This is similar to a Paul Whiteman Columbia disk I have -which dates it. My disk has a big bash in it -but being Columbia,it's still playable. Columbia made their disks resistant.
Somebody, who had no appreciation for old 78s or records app., threw this out of a 2nd or 3rd floor window of a house being renovated or demolished !
Yes Teadgarden, Dorsey, Goodman and a lot of others got their start with Whiteman. Sad to see Bix not getting a big solo part on this take, but you can here from his brief part that sadly he was losing the brilliance, a little bit, and
@colette10ful ??? Bix is the major soloist on this side with 16 bars - that sure is a "big solo part" on a 3 minute record. Around this time Bix may have been losing some of his former brilliance, but it's definitely not evident on this recording (nor on "Miss Hannah", recorded a day earlier in which he has another superb solo).
A few corrections to colette10ful's comment. Goodman never played with Whiteman. And Jack Teagarden joined Whiteman in 1933, long after he was established as a star player. But Jimmy Dorsey joined Whiteman before he was very well known, and as was his habit, he soon convinced Whiteman to hire kid brother Tommy. Both Dorseys played in the band along with Red Nichols for about a year. All 3 of them left because Whiteman's touring schedule interfered with their lucrative NYC freelance work.
I never cease to be amazed at the fidelity of these recordings and particularly that of the VV4-4. I had one and would almost say it sounded better than my Credenza!
Playing valuable and highly collectible records on a wind-up with a steel needle; this is the BEST way to play, PRESERVE and enjoy records of this kind!
Playing them on a modern turntable with a lightweight pickup/tonearm is just plain STUPID!!!
@classicvinylbiz - sounds interesting! ... BTW, there were LP reissues of Teddy Wilson, on CBS/Sony, and his many piano solos. ONE of these was "China Boy", in EIGHT, different takes!
@TheUnbreakableOtaku - I've got 111 playlists for every year since 1900 to take you back to the music of the past as if you've stepped back in time. Added this to 1929 AND the Paul Whiteman list. With over 500 playlists, 350 artists the world over each have a playlist too!
Thanks always to the uploaders who post the music, my heroes !
We tend to talk allot about Bix and so well deserved but so many others in Whitemans band were also very good musicians! Note At 1:08 - 1:24 and then1:34 - 1:40 Izzy Friedmans (cl) solos...very good!.
Secrest did take over Bix's solos when he was a way, but this is a Bix solo at 2:26, that was Secrest just prior. Bix 's tone is certainly not weak, he shines inthe ensemble playing you can hear his straight tone stand out, as a Cornets tone is a little more brittle than a Trumpet. The comment was made about why this recording sounds a half tone higheer. The accurate RPM speed of a Columbia before 1933 was 80rpm; we are used o hearing them at 78. mlaprarie is probably adhering to the corrct RPM
I had no idea the potato-head records had such great sonics. Since watching these videos, I have started playing my V4-20, which is orthophonic as well.
Bix's harmonic sensibilities amaze and delight me each and every time I listen to his recordings. Thanks so much for posting this incredible example of true improv. finesse!
Wouldn't it have been more correct to have played this on a Viva-Tonal?
SatchmoSings 1 month ago
This is similar to a Paul Whiteman Columbia disk I have -which dates it. My disk has a big bash in it -but being Columbia,it's still playable. Columbia made their disks resistant.
Somebody, who had no appreciation for old 78s or records app., threw this out of a 2nd or 3rd floor window of a house being renovated or demolished !
EmmetEarwax 1 month ago
Really amazing qualitly and fidelity for that age!
aviatorsbh 6 months ago
I love the hot solo at 1:06! Is that bix playing?
MrNEStalgia 7 months ago
@MrNEStalgia, Bix's solo starts at 2:26 in the video.
mlaprarie 7 months ago
Bix had actually not "recently rejoined the orchestra". Bix had been back in the band for several months before this session.
harryoakley 10 months ago
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harryoakley 10 months ago
Yes Teadgarden, Dorsey, Goodman and a lot of others got their start with Whiteman. Sad to see Bix not getting a big solo part on this take, but you can here from his brief part that sadly he was losing the brilliance, a little bit, and
Whiteman knew it...
colette10ful 1 year ago
@colette10ful ??? Bix is the major soloist on this side with 16 bars - that sure is a "big solo part" on a 3 minute record. Around this time Bix may have been losing some of his former brilliance, but it's definitely not evident on this recording (nor on "Miss Hannah", recorded a day earlier in which he has another superb solo).
harryoakley 10 months ago
A few corrections to colette10ful's comment. Goodman never played with Whiteman. And Jack Teagarden joined Whiteman in 1933, long after he was established as a star player. But Jimmy Dorsey joined Whiteman before he was very well known, and as was his habit, he soon convinced Whiteman to hire kid brother Tommy. Both Dorseys played in the band along with Red Nichols for about a year. All 3 of them left because Whiteman's touring schedule interfered with their lucrative NYC freelance work.
mlaprarie 7 months ago
I never cease to be amazed at the fidelity of these recordings and particularly that of the VV4-4. I had one and would almost say it sounded better than my Credenza!
edsewetoob 1 year ago
I love it!
Playing valuable and highly collectible records on a wind-up with a steel needle; this is the BEST way to play, PRESERVE and enjoy records of this kind!
Playing them on a modern turntable with a lightweight pickup/tonearm is just plain STUPID!!!
SatchmoSings 1 year ago
I DON'T understand your reasoning ! I think some of the surface noise is due to a heavy tone-arm with a steel needle having been used repeatedly.
EmmetEarwax 1 month ago
@EmmetEarwax From your nickname I understand you COMPLETELY!
SatchmoSings 1 month ago
Great and highly enjoyable production!
galtroark0 1 year ago
China Boy: Mel Powell, Peanuts Hucko, Ray McKinley, WWII -
watch?v=2RWzDxVuYIg
thanks and regards
classicvinylbiz 1 year ago
@classicvinylbiz - sounds interesting! ... BTW, there were LP reissues of Teddy Wilson, on CBS/Sony, and his many piano solos. ONE of these was "China Boy", in EIGHT, different takes!
jhb134 1 year ago
long live white music we know and so do the dead white musicians
up2space 1 year ago
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aikidodisciple 1 year ago
That record is in incredible condition! Sounds just like it was made yesterday.
TheUnbreakableOtaku 1 year ago
@TheUnbreakableOtaku - I've got 111 playlists for every year since 1900 to take you back to the music of the past as if you've stepped back in time. Added this to 1929 AND the Paul Whiteman list. With over 500 playlists, 350 artists the world over each have a playlist too!
Thanks always to the uploaders who post the music, my heroes !
chkjns 1 year ago
The 78 speed was standardized in 1925 at 78.26 RPM. The potato-head Columbias were recorded at 78.26 since they were made after 1925.
RickC50 2 years ago
The pitch is right; China Boy is usually played (still) in F - and that's the key we're hearing here.
luvmyrecords 2 years ago
We tend to talk allot about Bix and so well deserved but so many others in Whitemans band were also very good musicians! Note At 1:08 - 1:24 and then1:34 - 1:40 Izzy Friedmans (cl) solos...very good!.
pinkieldred 2 years ago
@pinkieldred Whiteman did have a lot of great musicians. If I'm not mistaken I believe Jack Teagarden played in the band as well as Joe Venuti.
hungarianguy 1 year ago
Secrest did take over Bix's solos when he was a way, but this is a Bix solo at 2:26, that was Secrest just prior. Bix 's tone is certainly not weak, he shines inthe ensemble playing you can hear his straight tone stand out, as a Cornets tone is a little more brittle than a Trumpet. The comment was made about why this recording sounds a half tone higheer. The accurate RPM speed of a Columbia before 1933 was 80rpm; we are used o hearing them at 78. mlaprarie is probably adhering to the corrct RPM
78timothy 2 years ago
My favorite of the Bix tunes. Wonderful solo.
moonchildiva 2 years ago
I had no idea the potato-head records had such great sonics. Since watching these videos, I have started playing my V4-20, which is orthophonic as well.
acfinney 3 years ago
thanks mlaprarie !!!! beautifull
Chavetita 3 years ago
...and Lennie Hayton wrote the arrangement (he later became a composer/conductor at MGM in the '40s).
fromthesidelines 3 years ago
I believe Andy Secrest "shared" Bix's solo...
fromthesidelines 3 years ago
Hi Mike,
the 'table spins faster, the song is almost a half tone higher.
Bestest
Enrico
lindyhoppers 3 years ago
Bix's harmonic sensibilities amaze and delight me each and every time I listen to his recordings. Thanks so much for posting this incredible example of true improv. finesse!
mikepenny01 3 years ago
Adorei isso !
tec066 3 years ago
Mlaprarie, Fantastic record and a superb transfer-great work!!! Regards, J.
fuzzbear6240 3 years ago
Nice Whiteman tune! He is the king of the 20's in my opinion. His arrangements were some of the best. Thanks for posting this!
pax41 4 years ago 3
He also made some great tunes in the first half of the 30s as well.
MVillani1985 2 years ago
Yes he did and even past that time. My favorites are his Columbia Viva-Tonal recordings.
pax41 2 years ago