Wow--White Heart is really good--they remind me of Toto.
Hey folks, I know you're probably busy; but, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ the following: I wrote a song from a phrase that my best friend, who was dying from cancer would say to me--”Mark, even if I don’t feel good, God is good”. He told me that even though he was dying, he was never happier in his life. Only God can do that. His name was Ron Williams. The song is titled--GOD IS GOOD EVEN IF; Just type: mark behrens (for the search)
THESE GUYS ARE NOT JUST AWESOME, THEY BLOW AWAY ANY ROCK GROUP OF THE TIMES, JUST THINK WHILE ALL THE ROCK AND ROLLERS ARE MAKING A HUGH KILLING, THESE GUYS GIVE TO GOD...AND THAT MAKES THEM MUCH RICHER IN MY EYES.
Best Christian band of 80's. I went to all their concerts when they came to Taylor University (Florian's Alma Mater) and also 2011 #1 rated college in Midwest by US News & World Report. I believe this is third year in a row. Oh, I graduated from Taylor as well.
About 10 years ago I was planning on ending my life cause of abuse. This song came on KLOVE and saved me. I share this song in every situation that's requires forgiveness. It is a life saver. God is a good God.
My favourite albums with Whiteheart are of course Freedom, Tales of Wonder and Highland :D But I have most albums of Petra :D All of them hehe :D 26 albums of Petra :D and 5 albums of Whiteheart <3
My favourite albums with Whiteheart are of course Freedom, Tales of Wonder and Highland :D But I have most albums of Petra :D All of them hehe :D 26 albums of Petra :D and 5 albums of Whiteheart <3
these guys, petra, and guardian were CRUCIAL to my walk with God in the very beginning. Love them so much, such a blessing. thanks for posting. this stuff NEVER gets old!
I first heard this song over 20 years ago, and it had such a profound impact on my understanding of forgiveness that it has underpinned my Christian walk ever since. For that I am eternally grateful.
I saw Whiteheart in concert on this tour tour (Don't Wait for the Movie). Front row seats! I think the actual title of this song is How Many Times? (Seventy Times Seven).
God has put it on my heart to pray and wait for my fiance, Lee, that I've been with for 3 years now. It's soooo hard to be patient and to love someone when they are being a prodical son.
It's easy to preach about forgiveness. But after 7 years of mudslinging and mocking and insult and it goes on and on. the song that goes on and on. Can you forgive when it does NOT stop?
There is an internet station that plays alot of 70's,80's,90's and some current Christian music and comedy upperroomradio d o t com!! Check it out and tell me what you think!! I ran across it and love it!!
Jared Leto of 30 Sec to Mars sounds exactly like Rick Florian! Rick is such a sweet guy! I got to meet him and I'm following him on Twitter! Amazing pipes! I want to cover this song!!!
Hi riverdragon666. Nice playing. watched some of your videos. This i actually an old video. Thier later stuff was much more agressive. search youtube for a posting by thier drummer Whiteheart - Freedom Live at Soul2Soul Awards 2006 and also White Heart- Power House when they had longer hair. lol. In this 90's this band tore it up. By the way you the bass player on this and the Freedom video is Tommy Simms who co wrote "change the world" for Eric Clapton. A bit of triva.
That's ok baby. You don't have to like to Jesus to go to heaven. You should check out some of the great music. Christian music is awesome. It's a great way to get stories across. Check out this dude named Carman. LAZARUS. awesome. LOVE YA.
@riverdragon666 Are you saying that from personal experience with Jesus, or by reputation, or because of a bad experience with somebody who claimed to love or follow him?
@riverdragon666, You are not the only one who does not like Jesus andits ok, He still Loves and forgives way more than seventy times seven. He forgives more than we will ever will, he was beaten bruised spit at and abused violently yet he still allowed them to nail him to the cross. Now THAT is LOVE and forgivness.
Thats O.k., He likes you enough to think about you while they drove nails through his hands, and take your place so you could take his place in heaven.
Used to discover it about 2 weeks ago. For a very long time I had not been listening to such great track. It has got sth inside... hard to say. Next track by which Im constantly thinkin about the girl who said she loved me but it turned out she needed me to have sb and when it appeared to be lie that she loves as i loved her - she found sb else. I miss you honey, I don't know what I'll do without you. Pity you cannot see it. But on the other hand - would it bring anything? Probably not.
@missionarygirl70 I discovered CCM while working as a photographer on Fort Benning, Ga. in 86. So many groups I wish had heard doing my high school days in Chicago. A song titled "HARMONY" by The Cruse Family should be played over and over all around the world. A great song to push PEACE.bilbo2shire
Wish the new christian bands like "My Hearts Cry " would whach some bands that realy ministry in music /actions and humble themselfs befor the Lord..Amen
This song has got me through some tough times. When the world tells you "hurt me once shame on you, hurt me twice, shame on me" I can't tell you how many times I've been tested on this principle.
"Seventy Times Seven", on the LP "Don't Wait for the Movie," marked White Heart's miraculous comeback from what could have killed the band: their lead singer was convicted of statutory rape. A promising band before that crisis, their signing of roadie Ric Florian as the new lead vocal and the soul-searching that obviously marked their lyrical and musical output afterward proved God's mercies are real. That album to me always will be their best -- because it was so near to never happening.
@HairGlitter Yes, he does. That too is a good song. Somewhat different themes; Whiteheart's song is about the requirement for me to those who sinned against me 7 x 70 times. Meece's song is more of a reminder that Jesus has forgiven me 7X70 times, or not counting offenses.
Actually this is from the album "Don't wait for the Movie" in 1986. Freedom was released in 1988 and I agree it is a great album. My fave is "Let the kingdom come"
I love this song and Desert Rose too.I really liked Whiteheart.The piano guy was the preacher of the band.I saw these guys live,when they toured with DC Talk.I had just given my life to the Lord,I was 17 or 18 yrs. old.What happened to them?Did they disband?I don't hear much of them.Where can I find their cds,and the lyrics,to their songs?If I learn how to sing,I will sing,some of their songs.Heck,I will sing them anyway,whether I know how to sing or not.
Hi Sassychic24! White Heart are no longer recording as of right now. They have not "officially" disbaned but have not recorded since earlier this decade. They did have a rare reunion performance you can catch from 2006 soul2soul awards where they were honored. Thier drummer jon knox has a youtube page where he posted performances from there. If you search "white heart freedom" you will find the soul2soul link. White Heart has given us so many great songs. enjoy singing them. ;-)
I like this song and Desert Rose.I liked Whiteheart,they were a great band.I saw them live once with DC Talk.What happened to them?I don't hear much of them anymore.Did they disband?Too bad,they were a really good Christian band.
I have been trying to look for this song for quite some time, I used to listen to this song all the time, as I had through so much trials and pain in my life. This is such an inspirational song!
This song like 'Harmony' from The Cruse Family sends a very strong message to all Races. Wish radio stations would go back 20 plus years and bring back alot of this music. Bilbo2shire
Amen!! One radio station that brings back 70's through today in christian music is XM 32. They are accepting any classic cd's' to thier music library to play on xm32 the message. If anybody is interested or has converted thier library to mp3 and no longer needs thier classic ccm cd's and would like to donate them to XM radio 32. I can give you the info on how to contact the radio station manager who is a wonderfull christian and has been in radio for many years. Blessings.
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I seldom can find the music I am looking for. Songs like "Oh Heavenly Father", "Hollow Eyes". I think songs like these can unite Belivers and Non-Believers and all Christians regardless of Race. I understand the Guy who owns J93.3 in Atlanta also owns FedEx. People like this could be "Shakers and Movers". Bilbo2shire.
LOVED THIS SONG!
jcbluejays 4 months ago
Wow--White Heart is really good--they remind me of Toto.
Hey folks, I know you're probably busy; but, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ the following: I wrote a song from a phrase that my best friend, who was dying from cancer would say to me--”Mark, even if I don’t feel good, God is good”. He told me that even though he was dying, he was never happier in his life. Only God can do that. His name was Ron Williams. The song is titled--GOD IS GOOD EVEN IF; Just type: mark behrens (for the search)
Thanks
cb4ujudge 4 months ago
Thanks for sharing!!!
FrevrYng07 4 months ago
white Rocks
tatu2496 5 months ago
How can you not like Jesus?
kevinEDR 7 months ago
@eden512- Thanks for his upload, this has been by far the most loved song of mine on forgiveness.
Soloraj1 8 months ago
who wouldn't Love Jesus. He's a beautiful person!
hellokitty777able 8 months ago
We and the world need to be reminded of the power of forgiveness.
MrMichaelcoleman 10 months ago
***JUST A GREAT SONG, WITH A TIMELESS MESSAGE FOR ALL OF US!
earthalien77 10 months ago
i wonder what the 5 people who dislije this video found objectionable.
ehrldawg 10 months ago
This song reminds me of how grateful I should be to be forgiven, and also how I need to forgive others as I've been forgiven.
nemoGQ 11 months ago
thanks for upload
huilnik 1 year ago
THESE GUYS ARE NOT JUST AWESOME, THEY BLOW AWAY ANY ROCK GROUP OF THE TIMES, JUST THINK WHILE ALL THE ROCK AND ROLLERS ARE MAKING A HUGH KILLING, THESE GUYS GIVE TO GOD...AND THAT MAKES THEM MUCH RICHER IN MY EYES.
MrRichardkj 1 year ago
great song message vocals 80tys produced some God loving bands wish they would get together and produce positive music, for todays world.
musicllady17 1 year ago
No this song is not from the Freedom CD but the first CD Read the Book. First CD with Rick Florian.
godsman09 1 year ago
THESE GUYS WERE JUST ABSOLUTELY AWSOME THANKS BE TO GOD!! WHAT EVER HAPPENED TO THEM?
PGHPENSFAN09 1 year ago 3
Love this song this is the soul of the rock christian music today but few has got the real passion..
knighteagle22 1 year ago
Best Christian band of 80's. I went to all their concerts when they came to Taylor University (Florian's Alma Mater) and also 2011 #1 rated college in Midwest by US News & World Report. I believe this is third year in a row. Oh, I graduated from Taylor as well.
x001m69 1 year ago
About 10 years ago I was planning on ending my life cause of abuse. This song came on KLOVE and saved me. I share this song in every situation that's requires forgiveness. It is a life saver. God is a good God.
petedlp1 1 year ago
god is so good to us.
random1234100 1 year ago
80's Christian rock! at it's best!
savedbygrace3307 1 year ago
My favourite albums with Whiteheart are of course Freedom, Tales of Wonder and Highland :D But I have most albums of Petra :D All of them hehe :D 26 albums of Petra :D and 5 albums of Whiteheart <3
MoodMan35 1 year ago
My favourite albums with Whiteheart are of course Freedom, Tales of Wonder and Highland :D But I have most albums of Petra :D All of them hehe :D 26 albums of Petra :D and 5 albums of Whiteheart <3
MoodMan35 1 year ago
I remember going to this concert, powerful song!
pandreal23 1 year ago
Jesus is coming soon!
MegaHorses2 1 year ago
I love this song. I love Jesus too. And thank God- He loves me.
geneakrobel 1 year ago
amazing sum 1 posted an good Christian metal band
pastorgeorgem 1 year ago
these guys, petra, and guardian were CRUCIAL to my walk with God in the very beginning. Love them so much, such a blessing. thanks for posting. this stuff NEVER gets old!
jteshuwah 1 year ago
The best time in christian music!!!!!!!!!!!
deportistapr 1 year ago
This song ministers to me so much. Thanks for sharing! God bless you!
Karalovesmusic 1 year ago
Is Billy Smiley still in the band at this point or is he not here at this point
MrLastastronaut 2 years ago
I just love this band!
1980RockGirl 2 years ago
thank you for posting this amazing video...!!!
yotoula 2 years ago
I first heard this song over 20 years ago, and it had such a profound impact on my understanding of forgiveness that it has underpinned my Christian walk ever since. For that I am eternally grateful.
sandypandygsr 2 years ago
I saw Whiteheart in concert on this tour tour (Don't Wait for the Movie). Front row seats! I think the actual title of this song is How Many Times? (Seventy Times Seven).
toastedaudiolab 2 years ago
I saw Whiteheart on this tour (Don't wait for the Movie) in 1986! Front row seats!
toastedaudiolab 2 years ago
God has put it on my heart to pray and wait for my fiance, Lee, that I've been with for 3 years now. It's soooo hard to be patient and to love someone when they are being a prodical son.
annamarieintex 2 years ago
It's easy to preach about forgiveness. But after 7 years of mudslinging and mocking and insult and it goes on and on. the song that goes on and on. Can you forgive when it does NOT stop?
9Abigaill9 2 years ago
Amen right on !
ComradeoftheCross 2 years ago
it's what Jesus told us that we must do...especially after His never failing forgiveness and love...
felix5054 2 years ago
This song encourages me when I was hurting, or being dissapointed with my friends.
palatica 2 years ago
Check out David Meece. seventy times seven
brandondallas 2 years ago
Great Song
Butafarie 2 years ago
This song has really helped me in all that i have been going through. Thank you so much for posting.
Butafarie 2 years ago
This song gave me comfort in the 80's and it's so good to hear it again, so thanks!
ausi14u 2 years ago
is that really chris mchugh on the drums?
nicholasczapiewski 2 years ago
There is an internet station that plays alot of 70's,80's,90's and some current Christian music and comedy upperroomradio d o t com!! Check it out and tell me what you think!! I ran across it and love it!!
Wombat66614 2 years ago
Jared Leto of 30 Sec to Mars sounds exactly like Rick Florian! Rick is such a sweet guy! I got to meet him and I'm following him on Twitter! Amazing pipes! I want to cover this song!!!
annamarieintex 2 years ago
not a bad song but i dont like jesus very much
riverdragon666 2 years ago
Hi riverdragon666. Nice playing. watched some of your videos. This i actually an old video. Thier later stuff was much more agressive. search youtube for a posting by thier drummer Whiteheart - Freedom Live at Soul2Soul Awards 2006 and also White Heart- Power House when they had longer hair. lol. In this 90's this band tore it up. By the way you the bass player on this and the Freedom video is Tommy Simms who co wrote "change the world" for Eric Clapton. A bit of triva.
eden512 2 years ago
thanks man i checked out some of their other stuff, pretty good
riverdragon666 2 years ago
Why don't you like Jesus much? Trust me been there! Not anymore thou!
Wombat66614 2 years ago
It doesn't matter if you like him, he loves you. Cliche, but... truth.
jandabrock 2 years ago
then you have not asked Him into your heart, or asked Him to prove Himself to you... it works,,, trust me]
billethekidd 2 years ago
That's ok baby. You don't have to like to Jesus to go to heaven. You should check out some of the great music. Christian music is awesome. It's a great way to get stories across. Check out this dude named Carman. LAZARUS. awesome. LOVE YA.
brandondallas 2 years ago
no problem.
brandondallas 2 years ago
He Loves You to death.
robalmond1968 2 years ago
@riverdragon666 Are you saying that from personal experience with Jesus, or by reputation, or because of a bad experience with somebody who claimed to love or follow him?
Pamathey 1 year ago
@riverdragon666, You are not the only one who does not like Jesus andits ok, He still Loves and forgives way more than seventy times seven. He forgives more than we will ever will, he was beaten bruised spit at and abused violently yet he still allowed them to nail him to the cross. Now THAT is LOVE and forgivness.
VImessenjah 1 year ago
Thats O.k., He likes you enough to think about you while they drove nails through his hands, and take your place so you could take his place in heaven.
castawayds 1 year ago
@riverdragon666 i hope he reveals how much he loves you! Take it one day at a time
audrey35able 1 year ago
@riverdragon666 You may not like him, but remember he still loves you no matter what you say or do... :DDD...
jakeboynz 1 year ago
Used to discover it about 2 weeks ago. For a very long time I had not been listening to such great track. It has got sth inside... hard to say. Next track by which Im constantly thinkin about the girl who said she loved me but it turned out she needed me to have sb and when it appeared to be lie that she loves as i loved her - she found sb else. I miss you honey, I don't know what I'll do without you. Pity you cannot see it. But on the other hand - would it bring anything? Probably not.
Great.
HomerPL 1 year ago
@riverdragon666 Jesus is coming soon! I love Him!
MegaHorses2 1 year ago
This was the first time you hear this song, and I liked it very much ..............
filipinaibg 2 years ago
I love this song! I even have it on my ipod!
missionarygirl70 2 years ago 6
This takes me back to 1987 when i got saved: Carman, Petra and White Heart were my first christian music tapes (yes tapes! ha, ha) i ever bought.
missionarygirl70 2 years ago 15
@missionarygirl70 me too! And I still have em to.
sandersisbad 2 years ago
@missionarygirl70 I discovered CCM while working as a photographer on Fort Benning, Ga. in 86. So many groups I wish had heard doing my high school days in Chicago. A song titled "HARMONY" by The Cruse Family should be played over and over all around the world. A great song to push PEACE.bilbo2shire
bilbo2shire 1 year ago
@missionarygirl70 no Mylon?
mnap128 6 months ago
Wish the new christian bands like "My Hearts Cry " would whach some bands that realy ministry in music /actions and humble themselfs befor the Lord..Amen
GnosticBeliver777 2 years ago 3
This song has got me through some tough times. When the world tells you "hurt me once shame on you, hurt me twice, shame on me" I can't tell you how many times I've been tested on this principle.
Gflwr 2 years ago
"Seventy Times Seven", on the LP "Don't Wait for the Movie," marked White Heart's miraculous comeback from what could have killed the band: their lead singer was convicted of statutory rape. A promising band before that crisis, their signing of roadie Ric Florian as the new lead vocal and the soul-searching that obviously marked their lyrical and musical output afterward proved God's mercies are real. That album to me always will be their best -- because it was so near to never happening.
WPITfan 2 years ago 5
Florian has an AMAZING voice! Doesn't get much better than this!
chrishixx 2 years ago
David Meece has a song called seventy times seven
HairGlitter 3 years ago 7
Yeah that's a good song too.
eden512 2 years ago
@HairGlitter Yes, he does. That too is a good song. Somewhat different themes; Whiteheart's song is about the requirement for me to those who sinned against me 7 x 70 times. Meece's song is more of a reminder that Jesus has forgiven me 7X70 times, or not counting offenses.
healthmusic 6 months ago
The Young man that is singing this song, went back to selling insurance...
nrmnvl55 3 years ago
Actually, he's a very successful Realator in Franklin, TN.
eden512 2 years ago
No, Rick Florian is a realtor in TN
annamarieintex 2 years ago
This song much be from Whiteheart album Freedom that I have lost :( But now I downloaded that album from the net hehe :) as mp3 :)
MoodMan35 3 years ago
Actually this is from the album "Don't wait for the Movie" in 1986. Freedom was released in 1988 and I agree it is a great album. My fave is "Let the kingdom come"
eden512 3 years ago
Grace & Forgiveness Is a Great & Gift from God !
Jesus; Overcomes All Things !
Peace !
meljpetra 3 years ago
666 the number of the beast hell and fire was born to be realised
KirisuteGomen69 3 years ago
Revalation 20:10
eden512 3 years ago
666
KirisuteGomen69 3 years ago
ohhh. scarrrrrry. ???
eden512 3 years ago
wow.. 80's, early 90's christian rock balad.. I dig the clothes and hair. thanks for reminding me how freakin old I am..lol
geekmansworld 3 years ago
O i found this song I used to love WHITE HEART I REMEMBER THEM...I LOVE THEM AND DAVID AND THE GIANTS BEFORE MICHAEL W. SMITH! THOSE WERE THE DAYS.
talonsbrutus 3 years ago
no more for me, i am half dead..777
styme33 3 years ago
this is for styme33. What do you mean by your comment? I will be praying for you..
raelyn28 3 years ago
back when music was music. Melotic, understandable, pretty, beautiful words. Wonderful message. Thanks for posting. I miss the 80's!!! :-D
rarebasses 3 years ago
i was raised on this music. I'm still looking for the full video tape with all of their songs on it :P
i listened to his song everyday. I still used this song to minister and Desert Rose to reach out to all of the hurting hearts that are in this world.
Thanks for posting this vid :]. it means a bunch
God Bless
iloveneji22094 3 years ago 2
Awesome Group- Great song.
MPmichael2000 3 years ago
Means alot. Its the best as far as I'm concerned.
bestestsite 3 years ago
I love this song and Desert Rose too.I really liked Whiteheart.The piano guy was the preacher of the band.I saw these guys live,when they toured with DC Talk.I had just given my life to the Lord,I was 17 or 18 yrs. old.What happened to them?Did they disband?I don't hear much of them.Where can I find their cds,and the lyrics,to their songs?If I learn how to sing,I will sing,some of their songs.Heck,I will sing them anyway,whether I know how to sing or not.
sassychic24 3 years ago
Hi Sassychic24! White Heart are no longer recording as of right now. They have not "officially" disbaned but have not recorded since earlier this decade. They did have a rare reunion performance you can catch from 2006 soul2soul awards where they were honored. Thier drummer jon knox has a youtube page where he posted performances from there. If you search "white heart freedom" you will find the soul2soul link. White Heart has given us so many great songs. enjoy singing them. ;-)
eden512 3 years ago
I like this song and Desert Rose.I liked Whiteheart,they were a great band.I saw them live once with DC Talk.What happened to them?I don't hear much of them anymore.Did they disband?Too bad,they were a really good Christian band.
sassychic24 3 years ago
this pain of mine is like FIRE. I've never been this low.
I love this song
jawnpaul 3 years ago
Awsome Band!
brothers309 4 years ago 2
WOW.. I love thier music but it is phenomenal how much they sound like Bobby kimball-Steve Porcaro TOTO...anyone else hear the likeness.
lastastronaut 4 years ago
This has always been one of my favorite White Heart songs too. I miss White Heart and I wish they would come back together again.
jeffsc67 4 years ago 2
Ol Rick kinda reminded me of Helena Bonham Carter when he stepped into the light lol. He has such an awesome voice though.
eventide11 4 years ago
I have been trying to look for this song for quite some time, I used to listen to this song all the time, as I had through so much trials and pain in my life. This is such an inspirational song!
marthur9999 4 years ago
the emotion and truth of their music has always drawn me. Thanks for the post.
annettecls 4 years ago 2
esto si es un clásico Dios los bendiga, me hace recordar mi juventud y mi crecimiento en Dios
deportistapr 4 years ago
very nice
mariecs1969 4 years ago
Can someone post the whole live video concert of whiteheart?
adikadikka 4 years ago
Definately would love that as well :)
serile99 2 years ago
It is a pure AOR from Heaven!!!!!!!!!
metalfortheking 4 years ago
This song like 'Harmony' from The Cruse Family sends a very strong message to all Races. Wish radio stations would go back 20 plus years and bring back alot of this music. Bilbo2shire
bilbo2shire 4 years ago
Amen!! One radio station that brings back 70's through today in christian music is XM 32. They are accepting any classic cd's' to thier music library to play on xm32 the message. If anybody is interested or has converted thier library to mp3 and no longer needs thier classic ccm cd's and would like to donate them to XM radio 32. I can give you the info on how to contact the radio station manager who is a wonderfull christian and has been in radio for many years. Blessings.
eden512 4 years ago
Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I seldom can find the music I am looking for. Songs like "Oh Heavenly Father", "Hollow Eyes". I think songs like these can unite Belivers and Non-Believers and all Christians regardless of Race. I understand the Guy who owns J93.3 in Atlanta also owns FedEx. People like this could be "Shakers and Movers". Bilbo2shire.
bilbo2shire 4 years ago
About time this was posted!
mrgoref1218 4 years ago