Beethoven Sonata Op 106 "Hammerklavier" Part 4 (mov 3)

[19October66]

Omg!  This is played so beautifully.

[hrprada]

Que magnifica belleza emana de tu cabeza.

[sebastianrc]

Me gustaba más la calificación por estrellas...aquí sólo puedo decir que me gusta y es mentira, me encanta, me fascina, una maravilla en composición y en interpretación... me gustaba más la calificación por estrellas porque podía dar un 5 del valor de un infinito

[Schakowski]

soooo nice, Val!!!!!!!!

[TheLokoBt]

3 persons like justin Bieber

[tangledaddicted]

@TheLokoBt i don't get it. what does it have to do with justin bieber?

[yanivnik]

this is not chopin so please dont play it like chopin.

[kirkusinthecircus]

@yugsnave1 I agree with you 100%. To play music expressively is not to simply play with a vague emotion in mind. In fact, it shouldn't be about playing expressively at all.

One has to really engage and live with the music, taking a lot of time to dissect the music, put it together with the rest of the sonata, and truly understand what the composer might have gone through to produce this music. Do you really care about the piece?

[yugsnave1]

effortlessly beautiful playing. but that's the problem. this ought to be agony. difficult. painful. we don't want to listen but simply HAVE to. a soul in torment. it sounds too easy. too glib. too polished. it isn't chopin. there's no pain between the notes just beautifully poised pauses. better than the macho brutality of brendel. give me kempff anyday. made it sound like an improvisation n in this case a person who had come to the end of his tether, nothing more left...but had to carry on.

[ZachEatonMusic]

@yugsnave1

I disagree -- I don't want to performance to sound "affected" in any way, personally. She would have to fake it in order to make it sound so "difficult", and that's the last thing I'd want to hear.

Wilheim Kempff is a great choice though -- he is a truly excellent Beethoven interpreter. His rendition of the Moonlight Sonata is extremely powerful.

[platero55]

I just realized that I haven't heard "Hammerklavier" for almost two decades! What a great way to come home, so to speak.

[belegSJ]

But hey, your older than me! Therefore you must be right and I shall not speak against your wisdom again.

[semisavage]

@belegSJ I didn't “Bash your thoughts" as you say, I called your misperceptions of 'conservatory' what they are--misperceptions. It was you who used ones studying at conservatory as some proof of knowing the deeper meaning of music, and I merely called you out for it. Remember, you engaged me here, I didn't engage you. Ms. Valentina is Phenomenal! But her approach and particularly her phrasing are boilerplate Conservatory. She deserves better and so does Ludwig.

[belegSJ]

@semisavage Point taken. I apologize for my rather impulsive reply, I sometimes get a little exaggerative when talking about piano music. I don't want to argue, lets just enjoy Valentina's amazing playing. :)

[semisavage]

@belegSJ No need for apology. You keep being impulsive as long as you can. Some day you'll get 'old' and people will expect you to lose that youthful quality. Tell them to go to hell though. The contrary quality of impulsiveness is a form of jaded sophism born in the bowls of academia. The only music to come out of academia is atonalism, and that isn’t music; it’s sophism. Real Music comes from real people living real lives far from Conservatory, and many of them were impulsive too.;))

[ilaconix]

Beautiful acoustics and playing!

[louis621]

Mrs Lisitsa, you play beautifully but i dont think you payed too much attention to the introduction of the fourth movement. I'm not going to say Im an expert on interpretation but there is something you may enjoy watching. There is a masterclass given by barenboim on the 4th movement of the hammerklavier that you can find by searching "Barenboim Bax" on youtube. While each interpretation is personal, I do think he makes some points about how it should be played that shouldn't be ignored.

[ValentinaLisitsa]

@louis621 I listen to Backhaus, not Barenboim or Bax

VL

[Schakowski]

@ValentinaLisitsa :

You have the best possible response given, Valentina, cool!!!!! It is a pity that people who have no idea, give comments! You are the very best ;)))))))

D. Schakowski

[ZachEatonMusic]

@ValentinaLisitsa

Merciful heavens, thank goodness you don't play like Barenboim. I respect his pianism, but he bores me to tears when he plays O_O

[newFranzFerencLiszt]

@ValentinaLisitsa hahaha you're right. Backhaus, Schnabel, or my "dear" Sviatoslav Richter; but also Gilels, Arrau etc. There are a lot of pianists underrated, who lived in the past century. Discover them!

[johnst66xx]

@louis621 Isn't it a little condescending to suggest that Ms. Lisitsa should watch a masterclass? What makes you think that Barenboim knows more about this music than she does?

[PhillyB702]

@johnst66xx Because Barenboim is one of the greats in beethoven along with kempff and Arrau.

[TrevRockOne]

@PhillyB702 Barenboim is a doofus.

[PhillyB702]

@TrevRockOne That's a valid opinion I guess.

[TrevRockOne]

@PhillyB702 Thank you for being so receptive to my well thought out critique. :)

[FugginMorons]

@louis621 No offense bro, but this lady just mauled this piece and you are all like "I don't think you payed(sic) too much attention"... She left the piano a pile of smoking rubble and I am pretty sure I heard it wimper "thank you may I please have another".

I wouldn't even offer this lady advice on how to move a piano let alone approach a piece.

Makes me want to break out my Casio and learn Chopsticks again. Bravo VL.

[enrothable]

Best I have ever heard. Thank you. Please come to Australia some day!!

[1770LUDWIG]

Thank you

[hermanshermits124124]

Wow I'm very impressed by your speed of this extremely difficult piece, magnificent!

[Erik83474]

My god, is that a Bösendorfer? Most beautiful piano I ever heard. And her interpretation is just like Beethoven: the link between the human and the divine....

[gouloum2222]

@Erik83474 it's steinway i think

[kingjepoy]

What a lovely movement! When oh when are you performing in the Philippines?

[daniel15671]

You beautifully communicate the turning point which Beethoven reaches around measure 100 or so of this magnificent movement.

[semisavage]

I don't know anything about this wonderful performer, but if she is going to play Beethoven she needs to understand where he was theologically. He was searching and begging for answers and that's what made him the greatest of all composers. She has some work to do to speak his language. She has all the physical ability, but that's only the 'animal' capacity. She has yet to participate in the essence of what made LvB the greatest of all composers.

[gouloum2222]

@semisavage very vague comment.

[belegSJ]

@semisavage I believe Valentina understands Beethoven - after all she has dedicated her life to piano music and has studied it for a long time. She knows tremendously about Chopin and his life and the history of his pieces (check her recent Fantasy op. 49 description if you don't believe me) - therefore one can assume that she knows Beethoven as well. I just cannot imagine that after studying in conservatories etc. she would "just play" without knowing the deeper meaning of the piece.

[semisavage]

@belegSJ @belegSJ You assume too much, and if you actually believe studying at conservatory teaches anyone about the deeper meaning of music or anything else you assume too much there too. She is a hugely talented performer, but she could still learn a lot. She will never learn it from the 'mill', aka ‘The Box, aka 'conservatory'. Conservatory is the last place to learn anything authentic in art. But I see you are only 17 so your misperceptions are excusable.

[belegSJ]

@semisavage Oh, I didn't know that being 17 makes ones opinions worthless. But nevermind.

Nevertheless, I do know (not personally tough - I am only 17, no need to point that out again) that conservatories and such are not the most ideal places to learn from art. However, I do become very skeptic when someone claims something in the name of "art" - which is a very obscure concept. How do you define "authentic art"? At this level of playing the "right essence" can be achieved in many ways...

[belegSJ]

@semisavage (continues) and I do understand that Val's way of playing isn't the Beethoven that pleases you. However, it pleases me and therefore I consider myself obligated to "defend" her interpretation. I'm just saying, you shouldn't bash other people's thoughts and definitely not call them misperceptions. I don't know, that's just not something I would except from a classical music listener. And tough I mentioned the conservatory I never said that studying there is equivalent to musicality.

[Porcelainart1]

IT's simply beautiful!! Thank you for sharing! My family and I love so much also the classical music, and expecially the piano...

It is a beautiful piece and a marvellous play! (I've played the piano fro sixteen years, so it's a gift for me to listen to such a performance!) Love: Angelika & Family

[MATTDUNCAN1]

always a brilliant performance from lisitsa..extraordinary technique and a wonderful understanding of the compositional intent..fantastic

[RenanGarciaMoura]

Beaultiful!

[EyeWarrior0545]

HQ music, HD video, what can i ask more ?

[VideosAlcides]

Que maravilhoso pianissimo...

Que diálogos fantásticos com o piano...

Bravíssima!!! Bravíssima!!! Bravíssima!!!

[ilovesteelydan]

You have such a rare gift.  So beautiful. Thank you.

[gisuona]

Da innamorarsi.

[xxptlare]

not...a....song.... :)

[eLiMU6]

@xxptlare

well, if u can sing it, it's a song!

Danke from Japan ：＂）

[eLiMU6]

all of Lvb's slow movements are in fact

SONGs without words.

regardless, Valentina's playing is remarkably sweet

the piano wouldn't be singing so, without her warm touch.

[97669]

Incredible, as always. I'm always left speechless by your performances!!

[tripsounds010rhcp]

come perform at arizona theater of the arts!

[scottyboyproductions]

i love this song, amazing job!