There are no average Americans we are all unique and minorities in our own right.
I agree with the majority of the statement.I am not for gun control guns are everywhere any way and the gun allows old women to deal with young ignorant punks who choose the easy violent route of getting whatever they wish.
So if your for gun control why do you think it is fair old women should have to fight young violent punks.
Just started checking out my first video of yours and enjoy the honesty. From what I have have heard, please allow me to explain why I own guns. I also am very opposed to violence and believe that gun ownership in general acts as a detererant to those who want to commit it. Sorry if this is an old arguement, but it is widely held. If you care, I loved Thomas Jefferson's fiscal policy (pay the debt). What he did to Native Americans and African slaves was reprehensible. Thanks
Since the beginning of recorded history and since the beginning of unrecorded human history, violence has always existed , way before the advent of the first firearm. You can make a strong argument that people during ancient and medieval time were a lot more violent than we our now. Most nations didn't start condemning torture and making it an unacceptable act until the mid 20th century. Humans were programmed to be a violent species, with or without the usage of guns.
We may elect politicians that supposedly are there to represent us, they've often don't represent us. If they truly did represent the majority of americans and took our approval rating of congress seriously(which is at 9 percent btw), we would see taxes be lowered, which most americans want, we would see a universal healthcare system being set up, which unfortunately most americans want and the big banks would not be bailed out(which most americans want)
Cristoher7, don't you know Thomas Jefferson knows best? It is important to know what our founding fathers had invisioned for our country because they freedom is something they did not take for granted. It is something most Americans take for granted to this day. You know we are in trouble when Americans think its perfectly fine for George Bush to wipe away our constitutional rights in order to be a so called safer place.
So you don't believe that dictatorships can be stopped through violence? That's the only way they can be stopped. Lawful disobedience only works against fairly peaceful regimes. If the Soviet Union had control of India instead of the British we would have never heard of Ghandi because he would have been executed in a Gulag.
I didn't say dictatorships can't be stopped through violence, I asked how you would go about organising your revolution against the US 'dictatorship', blogs didn't exist, neither did Carnivore, Altivore and Echelon, that's the point. Your government know war, they've been at it non-stop since 1775, they outgun you on every level.
I'm telling you now that there will not be the kind of revolution in the US that can be won by 'a well-armed populace', those times are over.
Under current conditions are we headed towards another revolution? Probably not. But look at the patriot act and some of Bushes other actions. It's just a matter of time before someone with more ambition then him comes along.
Do me a favour, just try to organise a significant proportion of the population in an uprising against US government and let me know how it goes for you, my suspicion is that the FBI would investigate you for domestic terrorism and you'd be shut down as soon as you looked like any kind of threat. Yes, you could probably do some damage, but it's not likely to be more than a few localised riots and a very long sentence for you as the organiser. Prove me wrong.
Wrong, the few instances of "domestic terrorism" we've had in the US were perpetrated by religion zealots and nutjobs like Timothy McVeigh who didn't have support from the general population. If the government were to commit crimes so atrocious that even a third of the population supported a violent insurrection there wouldn't be anything they could do to stop it. Dictatorships only exist because the people allow them to happen.
That's not true, the Weatherman organisation were not religious zealots and had huge public support for their anti-war agenda, yet were still seen as 'domestic terrorists' not freedom fighters. The US government has offices dedicated to 'spin', that's how they can tell you they're invading Iraq because of WMDs, you think they'd have a problem lying about you? How would you go about organising your revolution with FBI surveillance operations like 'Carnivore' and 'Echelon'?
First you want the right to carry a gun around incase someone tries to rape you, then you're worried about invading armies, then you're concerned whether you're well equiped enough to overthrow the government, of those 3 scenarios, in the US, I think rape is the most likely.
The Weathermen had their support from individuals who themselves where marginalized. Secondly people are a lot more distrusting of our government these days. Blogs didn't exist during the Vietnam war.
Secondly who says it would a foreign army we're forced to fight? If the United States keeps devolving into a police state we may very well be facing a second revolution. The 2nd amendment was designed just for that very problem.
The main role of La Resistance was aiding the Allies' during the occupation of France, they played a valuable role, but they couldn't have done it on their own, even at that time they needed armies to fight armies. An uprising in the US now would look alot like the Watts riots and not much more, the second amendment was written in a different time, it's not the good old days of muskets and horses now and I absolutely don't believe the US is headed for a 2nd revolution.
How do you know what an uprising in the US would look like? Exactly what percentage of the US were in the Watt riots? You get a good chunk of the population and actually organize them you can do some real damage. Thanks to the fact we literally have more guns then people in the US makes our country practically uninvadable. It would make Germany's invasion of Russia look like a walk in the park.
I hate guns, I'm 14 and already lost 2 friends to guns, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" tell that to my dead friend who got shot in the face at the age of 12 by her brother who found the gun under his mothers bed. Unless you carry a concealed gun with the intention of shooting someone dead, then it's no form of protection at all, it's just something you can grab in the heat of the moment and spend a lifetime regretting.
did a gun on its own shot em up or was it a irresponsible human being unloading a TOOL on your friends, guess it been the human being so stop blaming a tool.
He didn't know it was a real/loaded gun when he shot his little sister in the face.
Hammers have a purpose, when someone is killed with a hammer, nobody talks about banning hammers, because a hammer is a tool. Tell me sideshow, what would you do with a gun that qualifies it as a tool? It has only one purpose, I live in city centre Manchester, we don't get many deer around here.
Well, that's the point isn't it, kitchen knives are designed to be used in the kitchen, they have a purpose, food preparation. Why would you carry a gun if you didn't intend to shoot someone?
I never said guns weren't intended to kill people. That's their entire point, and some people need to be killed. Are you going to try to use peaceful debate to stop a rapist or an invading army? In a perfect world everyone would behave and guns wouldn't be necessary. But the world's full of evil fucks who have no interest in peace.
"some people need to be killed", maybe so, but gun owners are not Infallible, they're not supreme rationalists, they are subject to emotions like anger and fear.
Rape, fine, what about street robbery? What about the time that guy asked you "what are you lookin at?"
What invading army will get past the US army/navy/airforce, warships/fighter planes/missiles/fully automatic weapons etc. then change their minds because a few civilians have handguns?
We have laws in place to tell us when it is and isn't acceptable to kill another human being. The criteria actually varies state to state.
Yes actually civilians with firearms would prove problematic for an invading army. It's a lot easier to fight a conventional war compared to a gorilla war. People in the French resistance kept fighting long after the French military collapsed. *continued*
I think the word you are looking for is "regurgitate". Which is the same old argument that erupts in every single video containing that particular hot button topic. In this case guns. I'm pro. But I do understand your point about violence. It is not a solution because it begets retaliation. And will be a prime cause of more violence going forward. Its a quick fix to an ongoing problem. What you are asking people to do is evolve. But look around. Much of what you see is regression.
This is inevitable, however ugly UNLESS you, and pretty much everyone else willingly disobey regulations that you disagree with (there are enough to affect whatever your heart desires).
The political process doesn't work. Submission is not an option, period (don't even ask). These are the only two left. I am sorry.
You for president!!! You may not give a shit about guns, but I really prefer that to a gun grabber. I do have a lot of respect for you, in that you distinguish violence from firearms, which is something liberals often try to blur. As for the thing about violence, I don't get why people do it either.
race has nothing to do with it and if you don't care about old arguments and people (HISTORY) then shut up about slavery. buy a gun piss off a liberal
you sound like a college teacher i had and i hated him oh yeah he was black to WEIRD!!!!! and the govt used to be us but not anymore its controled by hidden agendas organizations and big business
But your view point denies the human condition. In every instanmce of history, the threat of violence gauranteed you a seat at the table to discuss options. Where that threat doesn't exist, there's appression. Look at Kenya today. If they had an armed citizenry, they'd all be in talks on how to rectify the disputed election results. Overthrow is infeasible but the "big stick" is the authority of "the people" and a reminder to work toward peaceful resolutions.
At the same time, in terms of "violence having no future," I believe that the end is already written and there's going to be a lot of it. I believe Revelation tells what's to come, but most will disregard this and that's ok too. It doesn't change what's to come...a lot of violence. It's a completely different topic than Cristofer7 is talking about though, so don't miss his point.
Quote: "We are greedy, selfish, shallow motherfuckers and the gov't represents us"
Thanks for taking responsibility and joining (actively) with the rest of us taking part in the democracy of this country. I don't like a lot either, but I understand that I have a part. Thanks for saying that.
The first part about the robotic responces to an old debate was very insightful. I have never thought about it like that before, but I will have to keep that it mind as I continue my journey.
History will repeat itself. Many people remain willfully ignorant of history and its capacity. That's why in the task of repetition, it has never failed.
The goverment used to be us. It is no longer us. Most people do not even bother to vote anymore. Look at the recent illegal (amnesty) vote. Polititions no longer listen to the people. 80% of Americans did not like the bill, however it onl lost by 5 votes.
How would you have thrown the American Revolution in 1776? Asking the British to leave wasn't exactly going to work. And while I know that the US is stable, and that the idea of some necessity for a new government through force seems insane. You only need to look at history and see the other numerous empires of the past that held great peace and prosperity, only to decay into anarchy a couple hundred years later.
You have to try and change things with voting first in my opinion. The problem is so many people just don't care to change it by voting. I understand what you're saying rob and I agree. I just hope it doesn't come to that.
A friend of a friend got her head blown off by by her "self respecting" citizen husband. The police found her toddler standing in a ppol of her mother's blood. He was "self respecting" and responsible up until the very second he pulled the trigger.
so you don't have a problem against gangsters? rappers? your only concern is people who simply want to own a gun for their own protection and not carry it all the time with themselves like rappers and criminals.
Rappers?? There is nothing simple about the concept of protecting so called "property".
Tell me, how many rappers and gangsters do you encounter on your daily travels? What percentage of those you encountered wanted to take you so called "property". Please provide specifics.
well almost all. but I was just giving an example of how you ignored the real problem and point your scorn at people who really want to own a gun for a legitimate reason unlike almost all black thugs and youth who own a gun for simply killing someone for 20 bucks. and your liberal media gladly gives them air time so they can brag about rape, murder, guns in their violent videos every day. you are just so biased and ignorant.. you are basically owning yourself.
..what does that mean? How many? Specifics please.
"almost all black thugs and youth who own a gun for simply killing someone for 20 bucks."
...this is a ridiculous statement. Show statistics to back this up. I sensed this about you initially, which is why I specifically chose you as a recipient of my "scorn" as you put it.
you are stupid. owning a gun is a right.. if you want to get rid of crime. get rid of the gun owners who use it for violence, not people who simply want to have a gun.
So, not rappers...not gangsters, white people. You really think white criminals are sitting around watching telly and listening to the radio and plotting their criminal strategy?
Thinks all rappers belong in jail. Wishes to be allowed to have a gun(to protect his family and property he says).
What say you? Do you trust this person? Do you trust him to assess a situation calmly and rationally and take appropriate action? If this person was your neighbor, would you be comforted by his gun ownership?
Glad to see you've overcome your cowardice by the way.
Having guns is every responsible citizen's right. like it or not it is going to be like that forever. so go and hide under your rock or else don't piss of a gun owner or else you know what is going to happen. l8ers.
well owning a gun is everyone's right. so whether you like it or not it is going to remain like that. the entire south is for gun ownership, you will never be able to make them hand over their guns for a couple of northeast states because they well they live in a dillusional world. good luck making an ass out of yourself. libtard!! l8ers.
wow so your life's big political decisions rely on the fact that you can make someone look violent when they aren't. how are you so smart? let me guess you are a douchebag liberal! OMGG IM RIGHT IM RIGHT!!!! i win.
Guns are an effective tool for self defense in the hands of a stable and centered person , who only wants to defend his freedom and his life , and a family if he has one . Police need guns because there are some soulless psychopaths on the loose and firearms help protect the citizens as well as them . It's a reality , there is a murderous element out there , and firearms give people a better chance to survive against that contingent . JV
If it wasn't for guns , we probably wouldn't even have a United States , and we wouldn't even be making vids pondering about their value or danger . We needed firearms in order to defeat native americans , the spanish , the british , and anyone else who got in the way of our dream of a free country . JV
Native Americans got in the way of your dream of a free country?
You used your guns to "break and enter" it was a criminal act on a large scale. So, the nation of Islam wishes to do the same to you..why do you resist? All is fair in love and war..no?
It's an interesting way to look at things, but let me enlighten you. As horrible as slavery is, it's only recently been about race and color in terms of historical reality. Classism and selling conquered enemies as slaves has been the main source of all slavery in history, and many civilizations have built wealth based on slavery. Slavery sucks, but the concept of slavery is as old as capitalizing on others for ones own benefit.
And, in our own society the difference between slavery and employee is only as relevant as what we set as wages for labor and labor laws. Always keep this in mind. 1 cent an hour minimum and human dignity give by laws are the only thing that separates an employee from being a slave. FACT!!!!
Most agreeable I am to your perspective in regards to gun control Cristofer7. Also, it some jest I offer that some people have an amalgamation of Red Dawn and Road Warrior (of those whom have actually seen these flicks) in mind that results in their view.
This is not about gun control...I get that...this is not about "he who has the bigger gun wins"...I hear you...violence is not a sustainable strategy for managing the needs of a society a culture or a nation..I like what I am hearing....
Keep in mind that the second amendment is the "right" to bear arms. Not the "duty". Just because the option of violence is in the Constitution doesn't mean that everyone wants guns. It's a personal choice and it rightfully should be in the Bill of Rights as a last resort. Good vid though.
you have some good points there but if someone wants to own a gun to protect his land or property or whatever then by all means he should be able to buy and have a fun. there is nothing wrong with it.. but these people(crack heads) who use it for violence and gang activity should be put in jail. i can't be bothered to get into useless debates and arguments. use your common sense it is simple.
If you could please try to minimize your profanity I think your message would be more respectable. "profanity is a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully." I don't think you are feeble, your language doesn't do your intellect justice.
And how much profanity would be acceptable to you?...1%, 5...10?
What you are asking him to do is be less like himself and more like you..make the video you would make if you had the ability.
If YOU could please widen your awareness and accept that highly intelligent adults do not restrict their language in any way. I would suggest you grow the FUCK up.
This video has nothing to do with me, so why would you ask me what is acceptable??? If you are saying that profanity describes who cristofer is, then you have a very erroneous view of both language and personality. Sorry to tell you, but highly intelligent adults expand there language and discourse by using more efficient words to discribe their ideas.
Aren't you paying attention? You asked him to "minimize" not eliminate his profanity which suggests reducing it to a supposedly acceptable level which you have predetermined. I am asking what that acceptable level is. Is that so difficult to understand?
and I quote" If you could please try to minimize your profanity I think your message would be more respectable." I did not ask him to eliminate profanity in hispattern of speech because any rational person knows that profanity his habitual, and cannot be discarded like the newspaper. I shouldn't even have to tell someone something like this, it is really elementary. again, the less profanity the cleaner the content, like in movies, or video games.
Good lord man, have you no comprehension skills! I swear..you could drive a person crazy with your obtuseness.
Again, this is elementary: He is a grown man and does not need you to tell him what to say and how to say it. You are insecure, manipulative and controlling..but bad at it. So, I guess that's a double failure.
What does age have to do with profanity????? again you are lacking. Even "grown ups" need instruction, make mistakes, ect. You obviously never went to college. You are proving to be really insufficient.
And, I know all about psychological game playing, one-upmanship, bullshit artistry, psychological control, preying on someone's psychological weaknesses. My initial assessment was correct; you're just bad at it.
You have an erroneous belief, and refuse to adjust it based on new evidence. Cristofer's profanity rolls off his tongue and punctuates his sentences. His language is already expanded and his message is received on all channels...so to speak.
Very rarely have I heard such whimsical, judgemental, self assuming, and erroneous conversation. I will break it down for you, because I really think now you are confused. You keep putting me inside of your mind, which only makes you seem very ignorant. I was talking about language. It is not my belief, but English grammar that dictates proper usage and ect. "based on new evidence" really you are trying to hard. Again you come with an insult, which projects your insecurity.
Again with the potluck thesaurus....You failed comprehension in school right? Ok, let me break it down:
Ok, I get the "inside your mind" imagery...but how that makes me seem ignorant...you lost me there.
Now, you've jumped from profanity to grammar...which are two different things. Are you saying "fuck" was grammatically incorrect? You're right, you are confusing me.
It is a belief that "proper" language should exclude certain words; however, my experience has shown me that is false.
What is a potluck thesaurus???????? Enough, the conversation has eroded and digressed into name calling and insults like I knew it would with you. Well rant, your name seems to fit your character, this is not an insult, but observation. And you have shown that you are ill equiped to handle intellectual conversation, which supports your reasoning for personal attacks and "insults"
And fuckin, and Motherfucking, is rediculous to use in order to fill the void of silence that would stand for a moment in order for you to arrange or culminate your ideas or theme. Rantaholic you have displayed your intellect, which was in this moment a combination of conjecture, pre conceived notions, and profanity. In typical fashion you project the menial mans idea of Self, which is a challenge in your eyes to me, but a lesser degree of psychological aptness in reality.
Anentity- these are judgements... judgements on the sounds coming out of my mouth... intelligent adults use their (not there) more efficient words, and I did that. Motherfucker drives a point like few words do... but the fact that some words are put under a heading of unacceptable, to me, is silly... peace...
Actually cris, I am an English major, you lose with this arguement. Language has purpose, meaning, rules, guidelines, and structure. It is judgement, and the rules have been long set. You really got me with (there) as if I didn't see it coming:) what ever makes you feel better. I did enjoy this video despite the harsh language, to leave on a neutral tone.
Anentity-no one "loses"... Language does have a purpose, but I attempt to appeal to you as an individual, to see the nonsense in getting hung up on profanity. I do know it is a matter of taste, and if U simply cannot, I understand, but I felt obliged to offer another view anyway... take care, I am glad you enjoyed the video...
That was just an expression, I feel as if you are in danger of taking things here in opposition to your message, when I only intended to suggest that profanity is a described lesser form of communication. Really I think it adds nothing to your over all theme, but just blimishes the content.
There was no void; that is a figment of your erroneous beliefs.
My perception was of a smooth concept expressed from beginning to end without pause.
Anentity, this is the difference between a gifted communicator(Cristofer7) and a speaker(You)....the speaker plays eeny, meeny, miney, moe with the thesaurus and produces a disjointed counterintuitive message while the communicator says "fuck" and we get it!
Actually I am an English major, so it may seem confusing to you that I use such words. So I understand your eeny ect. You also have implied that I am a speaker???? I have only typed. Also you imply that I the conversation is disjointed or confusing, which may be your perspective, but some how I believe the message isn't so confusing.
Language and communication is an intuitive; which is why not everyone can be a writer. Some people try to learn it but fail to communicate effectively. Maybe you should switch majors.
Yes, you "believe". You have a lot of beliefs that need reassessing. Take them out one by one, examine, and readjust based on new information.
And next time, don't try to chastise grown men about their language...attempt to soothe your insecurity some other way. Challenge them on their ideas or beliefs IF YOU CAN.
Anentity-so my mind is feeble... now what? I fly above superficial judgements, but for those who get caught... I have no interest in catering to them... I am profane... if U can't deal with that, I understand...
Cristofer, you failed to either understand or finish reading my statement, I hope you failed to read it, then I would not feel the pressure of speaking to an emotionally unstable person who reacts from what is percieved as negative without letting the message be heard. again, I said above, I don't think you are feeble. I would not ask you to cater to anything that you don't think is personally uplifting and respectable. Do not associate your personality with one word adjectives.
And another thing. It is clear to me that you have feebly attempted to hide insult and condescension within compliment. It is the condescension that is genuine, NOT the compliment. This suggests that what you really think is irrelevant.
You can't change the grammar after you make the comment of course. I meant to say, the only developed country in the world to have 10,000 handgun shootings a year.
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
It does not matter the end will come from the middle east,within 20 yrs they will achieve nuclear weapons and they WILL detonate one in the united states, and then what will guns mean? As Edwin Starr said absolutley nothing!
As hard as it is to hear, sometimes violence is a solution; though should only be used as a last resort. Saying violence is never a solution is wishful thinking.
Violence is justified and "moral" and the ONLY way when it comes to defense against the initiation of force. And ONLY against INITIATION of force.
Initiation of force however is the greatest evil and the sign of the looter.
As for our government being selfish. No it's not. It's selfless and altruistic. Which is why we're fucked and heading toward communism and why everyone has a gun and is chanting "overthrow the man." All we need now is a Mao Zedong.
i wasn't trying to end the convo or throw a buzzword. but i'm going thru kind of a shitty break-up right now so I really can't get into this. All i meant is that even if he was saying he doesn't "do" america (which i'm not sure he was), it doesn't particularly bother me.
i agree that the idea of overthrowing the gov't with guns is ridiculous - either the US military is pro-revolution or anti-revolution, and no amount of guns will defeat the US air force, tanks etc. However I dont think theres anythign wrong with owning a gun for protection... not sure exactly what your point is here. violence is a bad defense just bc its easy?
I've been thinking a lot about made up concepts lately, and your government analogy is a good one. God, satan, heaven, hell, good, evil, government: all boogeymen that people love to announce to emotionally influence others. And very effectively because people don't have enough common sense to laugh it off. BTW, I think hitting your kids IS the easy way out. Just saw it on the street today and it just looked so uneducated. :(
Good video, Cristofer7 - you have a new subscriber.
One thing, though - you said the government is the people, run by officials we elect. Unfortunately that isn't the case these days. Corporations run this country for the most part. The North American Union is being formed by the biggest corporations of America and most politicians, WITHOUT a single vote being cast for or against the plan to unite Canada and Mexico. But other than that, you have some great points.
There's one good thing that came out of this debate. I had the pleasure to listen to a passionate and intelligent person expressing their opinion. I agree and disagree with you, but consider me subscribed.
Let's act like rebellious teenagers thinking we know more than our parents so fu$k histroy and what they thought. See the picture here; you need to grow up.
Guns dont kill people, people kill people, I personally im unviolent and do not prefer weapons of any kind, i mean people can be killed with anything nowadays lol guns are just an epitamy of violence.
Yes, violence is totally immoral to initiate and government is all about initiating violence against its constituents. I don't see common people on the street doing business shooting each other. It is the percieved legitimacy of government violence that allows people to play by different rules once they walk in to some arbitrary nominated building.
So what are you advocating here fakesagan? American mentality over mankind? Now tell me who is acting like a mindless robot! That was a typical ''push the american patriotism button'' answer. It is a fact that your 4 fathers were visionaries 300 years ago, they were also slave owners. We're in the beginning of the 21st century! Times change and people change! Ideologies must do the same!
I am not against guns; however, guns are specifically for one thing and one thing only : to kill. So it is a bit of a Catch 22. First amendment needs to be ratified right to bear arms and form a militia; a militia,m when is the last time you saw a militia? Unfortunately the media glorifies violence; young people are so impressed by such and the cycle goes on and on. It ultimately comes down to the parents and the values they teach and hopefully successfully teach.
I think you're right about the "old argument" thing, Chris. It's like a well-worn trench that people don't know how to climb out of, or avoid falling into. Enttrenched thinking is what it is.
I'd love to see you (and others) bring that same insight to the "science/religion/atheism" topic. That's an even older and more worn-out trench. Some new ways of looking at it would be great.
I agree with you on all points, but I an not surprised at the responses you received. People are ignorant of how the government actually works, how it changes, and the methods of making it change. It is cynical, willful ignorance.
Be prepared for the hate mail, dude. There are a lot of paranoid folks in this country.
The US government is -not- you; it's rich, powerful men and women backed by powerful corporate interests (massive campaign financing corrupts them all). Not you. Honestly dude, do your homework; the US is definitely NOT "by the people".
"Us" is not the government, "Us" is not here to protect us. "Us" is just of an environment that is ready to kill you for it's survival. Just because we are capable of forming a philosophy doesn't mean we can accomplish it right away. We have 3000 years of "known" history that shows us this: if you want peace, prepare for war. It goes not only for tribes and nations, but to individuals too. It goes not only for the physical level of self but to the intelectual level too.
When I finally get my own home I will go buy one gun not because its cool or because I need to protect myself from the goverment, but from burglers, robbers, and people that want to hurt me or my family. Thats the only reason anyone should ever have guns for.
He also told me Richard Dawkins was "a laughing stock of the philosophical community" and I'm like, "So? he's a SCIENTIST". Now I have some respect for philosophy, but of a Science contradicts a Philosophy than too bad for the philosophy.
Mm hmm mmm hmm yep. Theists often use arguements that have been Pwned to death a million times by now. And they're so old you can rebut them using bumperstickers.
The other day, a guy who claimed to have a masters in philosophy actually sent me a more technical version of First Cause, and refused to achnowledge that "the universe began to exist" and "an actual infinite cannot exist" are unproven assumptions, therefore his whole arguement falls apart.
The government represents the owning class. Think about it. Why do we have so few candidates? Why are there only two parties that ever win? How is it that the same company that makes the electronic voting machines is also a major campaign contributor to Bush? Maybe because the presidency is bought and sold.
In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S. Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites. Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.
I suggest that you post a sign outside your house saying it is a white household and only white criminals will be admitted. Then, you can have the honor of being murdered by your own kind....oh, make that sign say: Stupid white criminals only.
This is why I have guns: More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year. Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks. About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992.
Noooo. You have guns because it is not enough for a would be warrior to sit of the sofa with his hand down the front of his sweat pants, and a six pack of beer grunting to his favorite sports team. You want a piece of the action. You need to hunt. Never mind that there's stupid written all over your face; you NEED to hunt.
the government isnt supposed to be a boogie man in theory, but it IS in REALITY."us" is not one thing,we are white,black,brown,yellow,poor,rich,wealthy,broke..as long as there is a government, it will represent those who MAKE UP the government, and that is RICH fucking people.if the government REALLY represented "US", then it would not be comprised of 99% percent rich white people.
there would be poor people in the government,there would be people with all kinds of creeds and colors..the government in place now DOES NOT REPRESENT "US", it only represents a certain few.
An example of how society can work without the use of voilence to resolve differences would probably be the U.S. government. It's not perfect, but when was the last time you seen senators and representatives punching each other out in Congress in making the laws despite differences in views and opinions? No government is perfect, but if it can work without violence, then there's hope. But can the whole world can work that way?
I don't want to sound like a stuck up American because I'm sure there are other governments in this world that can government their differences for their country without violence. So if anyone knows of any other governments debating and making laws without smacking each other, just name some here. I'm just trying to make a point that there may possibly be a way to resolve issues and differences without violence for the sake of mankind. It's a start, right?
There are no average Americans we are all unique and minorities in our own right.
I agree with the majority of the statement.I am not for gun control guns are everywhere any way and the gun allows old women to deal with young ignorant punks who choose the easy violent route of getting whatever they wish.
So if your for gun control why do you think it is fair old women should have to fight young violent punks.
283inc 1 year ago
Hey Man,
Just started checking out my first video of yours and enjoy the honesty. From what I have have heard, please allow me to explain why I own guns. I also am very opposed to violence and believe that gun ownership in general acts as a detererant to those who want to commit it. Sorry if this is an old arguement, but it is widely held. If you care, I loved Thomas Jefferson's fiscal policy (pay the debt). What he did to Native Americans and African slaves was reprehensible. Thanks
SailTCB 2 years ago
Since the beginning of recorded history and since the beginning of unrecorded human history, violence has always existed , way before the advent of the first firearm. You can make a strong argument that people during ancient and medieval time were a lot more violent than we our now. Most nations didn't start condemning torture and making it an unacceptable act until the mid 20th century. Humans were programmed to be a violent species, with or without the usage of guns.
Pentazoid111 2 years ago
We may elect politicians that supposedly are there to represent us, they've often don't represent us. If they truly did represent the majority of americans and took our approval rating of congress seriously(which is at 9 percent btw), we would see taxes be lowered, which most americans want, we would see a universal healthcare system being set up, which unfortunately most americans want and the big banks would not be bailed out(which most americans want)
Pentazoid111 2 years ago
Cristoher7, don't you know Thomas Jefferson knows best? It is important to know what our founding fathers had invisioned for our country because they freedom is something they did not take for granted. It is something most Americans take for granted to this day. You know we are in trouble when Americans think its perfectly fine for George Bush to wipe away our constitutional rights in order to be a so called safer place.
Leonidus82 2 years ago
So you don't believe that dictatorships can be stopped through violence? That's the only way they can be stopped. Lawful disobedience only works against fairly peaceful regimes. If the Soviet Union had control of India instead of the British we would have never heard of Ghandi because he would have been executed in a Gulag.
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
I didn't say dictatorships can't be stopped through violence, I asked how you would go about organising your revolution against the US 'dictatorship', blogs didn't exist, neither did Carnivore, Altivore and Echelon, that's the point. Your government know war, they've been at it non-stop since 1775, they outgun you on every level.
I'm telling you now that there will not be the kind of revolution in the US that can be won by 'a well-armed populace', those times are over.
b533419 3 years ago
Under current conditions are we headed towards another revolution? Probably not. But look at the patriot act and some of Bushes other actions. It's just a matter of time before someone with more ambition then him comes along.
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
Do me a favour, just try to organise a significant proportion of the population in an uprising against US government and let me know how it goes for you, my suspicion is that the FBI would investigate you for domestic terrorism and you'd be shut down as soon as you looked like any kind of threat. Yes, you could probably do some damage, but it's not likely to be more than a few localised riots and a very long sentence for you as the organiser. Prove me wrong.
b533419 3 years ago
Wrong, the few instances of "domestic terrorism" we've had in the US were perpetrated by religion zealots and nutjobs like Timothy McVeigh who didn't have support from the general population. If the government were to commit crimes so atrocious that even a third of the population supported a violent insurrection there wouldn't be anything they could do to stop it. Dictatorships only exist because the people allow them to happen.
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
That's not true, the Weatherman organisation were not religious zealots and had huge public support for their anti-war agenda, yet were still seen as 'domestic terrorists' not freedom fighters. The US government has offices dedicated to 'spin', that's how they can tell you they're invading Iraq because of WMDs, you think they'd have a problem lying about you? How would you go about organising your revolution with FBI surveillance operations like 'Carnivore' and 'Echelon'?
b533419 3 years ago
First you want the right to carry a gun around incase someone tries to rape you, then you're worried about invading armies, then you're concerned whether you're well equiped enough to overthrow the government, of those 3 scenarios, in the US, I think rape is the most likely.
b533419 3 years ago
The Weathermen had their support from individuals who themselves where marginalized. Secondly people are a lot more distrusting of our government these days. Blogs didn't exist during the Vietnam war.
*Continued*
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
Secondly who says it would a foreign army we're forced to fight? If the United States keeps devolving into a police state we may very well be facing a second revolution. The 2nd amendment was designed just for that very problem.
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
The main role of La Resistance was aiding the Allies' during the occupation of France, they played a valuable role, but they couldn't have done it on their own, even at that time they needed armies to fight armies. An uprising in the US now would look alot like the Watts riots and not much more, the second amendment was written in a different time, it's not the good old days of muskets and horses now and I absolutely don't believe the US is headed for a 2nd revolution.
b533419 3 years ago
How do you know what an uprising in the US would look like? Exactly what percentage of the US were in the Watt riots? You get a good chunk of the population and actually organize them you can do some real damage. Thanks to the fact we literally have more guns then people in the US makes our country practically uninvadable. It would make Germany's invasion of Russia look like a walk in the park.
*continued*
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
I hate guns, I'm 14 and already lost 2 friends to guns, "guns don't kill people, people kill people" tell that to my dead friend who got shot in the face at the age of 12 by her brother who found the gun under his mothers bed. Unless you carry a concealed gun with the intention of shooting someone dead, then it's no form of protection at all, it's just something you can grab in the heat of the moment and spend a lifetime regretting.
b533419 3 years ago
did a gun on its own shot em up or was it a irresponsible human being unloading a TOOL on your friends, guess it been the human being so stop blaming a tool.
Sideshowbobx 3 years ago
He didn't know it was a real/loaded gun when he shot his little sister in the face.
Hammers have a purpose, when someone is killed with a hammer, nobody talks about banning hammers, because a hammer is a tool. Tell me sideshow, what would you do with a gun that qualifies it as a tool? It has only one purpose, I live in city centre Manchester, we don't get many deer around here.
b533419 3 years ago
So if your friends were killed by kitchen knives would you hate kitchen knives?
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
Well, that's the point isn't it, kitchen knives are designed to be used in the kitchen, they have a purpose, food preparation. Why would you carry a gun if you didn't intend to shoot someone?
b533419 3 years ago
I never said guns weren't intended to kill people. That's their entire point, and some people need to be killed. Are you going to try to use peaceful debate to stop a rapist or an invading army? In a perfect world everyone would behave and guns wouldn't be necessary. But the world's full of evil fucks who have no interest in peace.
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
OK, so we've established the difference between;
1. a legitimate and necessary tool being misused as a weapon (kitchen knives, hammers etc.)
2. a weapon designed specifically to kill and injure, that has no other purpose.
I think that answers your first question to me, "would you hate kitchen knives"
*continued*
b533419 3 years ago
"some people need to be killed", maybe so, but gun owners are not Infallible, they're not supreme rationalists, they are subject to emotions like anger and fear.
Rape, fine, what about street robbery? What about the time that guy asked you "what are you lookin at?"
What invading army will get past the US army/navy/airforce, warships/fighter planes/missiles/fully automatic weapons etc. then change their minds because a few civilians have handguns?
Come on, let's have some honesty.
b533419 3 years ago
We have laws in place to tell us when it is and isn't acceptable to kill another human being. The criteria actually varies state to state.
Yes actually civilians with firearms would prove problematic for an invading army. It's a lot easier to fight a conventional war compared to a gorilla war. People in the French resistance kept fighting long after the French military collapsed. *continued*
Yerzriknot 3 years ago
I think the word you are looking for is "regurgitate". Which is the same old argument that erupts in every single video containing that particular hot button topic. In this case guns. I'm pro. But I do understand your point about violence. It is not a solution because it begets retaliation. And will be a prime cause of more violence going forward. Its a quick fix to an ongoing problem. What you are asking people to do is evolve. But look around. Much of what you see is regression.
Asmo6 3 years ago
This is inevitable, however ugly UNLESS you, and pretty much everyone else willingly disobey regulations that you disagree with (there are enough to affect whatever your heart desires).
The political process doesn't work. Submission is not an option, period (don't even ask). These are the only two left. I am sorry.
T850CSM101a1676 3 years ago
I totally agree with you. I think gun freedom is important. But anyone that thinks it is the means to a political end is delusional.
DotPaulish 3 years ago
You for president!!! You may not give a shit about guns, but I really prefer that to a gun grabber. I do have a lot of respect for you, in that you distinguish violence from firearms, which is something liberals often try to blur. As for the thing about violence, I don't get why people do it either.
quuaa1 3 years ago
the government is NOT you. Put down your secular bible of government worship.
thorsmitersaw 3 years ago
race has nothing to do with it and if you don't care about old arguments and people (HISTORY) then shut up about slavery. buy a gun piss off a liberal
jjr1911 4 years ago
thomas jefferson said to keep everything nice there should be a revolution once every 20 years
darris321 4 years ago
you sound like a college teacher i had and i hated him oh yeah he was black to WEIRD!!!!! and the govt used to be us but not anymore its controled by hidden agendas organizations and big business
komrade55 4 years ago
But your view point denies the human condition. In every instanmce of history, the threat of violence gauranteed you a seat at the table to discuss options. Where that threat doesn't exist, there's appression. Look at Kenya today. If they had an armed citizenry, they'd all be in talks on how to rectify the disputed election results. Overthrow is infeasible but the "big stick" is the authority of "the people" and a reminder to work toward peaceful resolutions.
unregisteruser 4 years ago
So your saying that to try to "end someone" in in defense of your family, you would be "unfair and unjust"
link10909 4 years ago
You fool. Keep believing that the government = you.
7chance 4 years ago 2
At the same time, in terms of "violence having no future," I believe that the end is already written and there's going to be a lot of it. I believe Revelation tells what's to come, but most will disregard this and that's ok too. It doesn't change what's to come...a lot of violence. It's a completely different topic than Cristofer7 is talking about though, so don't miss his point.
mindburp 4 years ago
Quote: "We are greedy, selfish, shallow motherfuckers and the gov't represents us"
Thanks for taking responsibility and joining (actively) with the rest of us taking part in the democracy of this country. I don't like a lot either, but I understand that I have a part. Thanks for saying that.
mindburp 4 years ago
Your family may not be worth protecting.
Mine is.
Try all you want to control guns, I could name ten guys who are able to make a gun with a machine shop and simple tools.
Ban Machine shops.
jewlSecond 4 years ago
yup yup. correct on all counts. can't add any more.
but the western governments? they're under total banking and MIC control.
YourSuperiorSays 4 years ago
Your weak bro.
ArmedPatriot8 4 years ago
"There is no Such thing as a peace full revolution"
murdamooch1 4 years ago
The first part about the robotic responces to an old debate was very insightful. I have never thought about it like that before, but I will have to keep that it mind as I continue my journey.
sorienor 4 years ago
History will repeat itself. Many people remain willfully ignorant of history and its capacity. That's why in the task of repetition, it has never failed.
rob3459 4 years ago
The goverment used to be us. It is no longer us. Most people do not even bother to vote anymore. Look at the recent illegal (amnesty) vote. Polititions no longer listen to the people. 80% of Americans did not like the bill, however it onl lost by 5 votes.
roughneck10000 4 years ago
How would you have thrown the American Revolution in 1776? Asking the British to leave wasn't exactly going to work. And while I know that the US is stable, and that the idea of some necessity for a new government through force seems insane. You only need to look at history and see the other numerous empires of the past that held great peace and prosperity, only to decay into anarchy a couple hundred years later.
rob3459 4 years ago
You have to try and change things with voting first in my opinion. The problem is so many people just don't care to change it by voting. I understand what you're saying rob and I agree. I just hope it doesn't come to that.
roughneck10000 4 years ago
Why is it that you never see hate posts on white people's videos that say 'Stupid cracker'? Seriously, what the fuck.
BoozyBeggar 4 years ago
You shut the fuck up, queer.... obviously you have nothing to say
rainzone 4 years ago
Violence is not a good obtion... usually. It is a good obtion if it is the final one or the lesser of two evils.
On a side note, I grew up knowing some families who never spanked their kids. A few are now model citizens. The rest are in prison.
All you need is balance. I do respect your philosophy, but you are de-clawing yourself in a world full of cats with claws.
That80sGuy1972 4 years ago
"old" arguments, like "old" women are the keepers of truth.
-xy11xy
xy11xy 4 years ago
I hate guns.
I don't ever want a gun.
But, when you say the government is us?....I think at this point that it may have gone beyond "us".
We don't have the control anymore.
And even tho I never want to own a gun, I so do NOT want my government to tell me I can't have one.
What is fair and just?
Following the constitution is fair and just.
Come on...if we can't live by that, then as a nation we are so screwed.
gillybymarriage 4 years ago
Isn't it interesting how cowardice is to racism as stink is to shit?
xy11xy 4 years ago
Here it seems, stupidity rules supreme. Maybe I should carry out my own revolution to root it out.
xy11xy 4 years ago
You fucking cowboys! Grow up! You guys have watched too much movies.
Stop buying guns nobody is going to attack you
jkand 4 years ago
Owning guns is everyone's constitution rights. It is every responsible citizen's right to have a gun.
ajfsx 4 years ago
And what constitutes a "responsible citizen"? How will you measure and determine this? Do they look a certain way?
Everyone is responsible until their first act of violence...it seems the only separation is time and opportunity.
xy11xy 4 years ago
it is every self respecting citizen's right. so they could preserve their rights and property.
ajfsx 4 years ago
So, what constitutes a "self respecting" citizen? Should I trust their aim? Should I trust their prejudices? Their ability to control themselves?
xy11xy 4 years ago
A friend of a friend got her head blown off by by her "self respecting" citizen husband. The police found her toddler standing in a ppol of her mother's blood. He was "self respecting" and responsible up until the very second he pulled the trigger.
xy11xy 4 years ago
so you don't have a problem against gangsters? rappers? your only concern is people who simply want to own a gun for their own protection and not carry it all the time with themselves like rappers and criminals.
ajfsx 4 years ago
Rappers?? There is nothing simple about the concept of protecting so called "property".
Tell me, how many rappers and gangsters do you encounter on your daily travels? What percentage of those you encountered wanted to take you so called "property". Please provide specifics.
xy11xy 4 years ago
well almost all. but I was just giving an example of how you ignored the real problem and point your scorn at people who really want to own a gun for a legitimate reason unlike almost all black thugs and youth who own a gun for simply killing someone for 20 bucks. and your liberal media gladly gives them air time so they can brag about rape, murder, guns in their violent videos every day. you are just so biased and ignorant.. you are basically owning yourself.
ajfsx 4 years ago
"well almost all."
..what does that mean? How many? Specifics please.
"almost all black thugs and youth who own a gun for simply killing someone for 20 bucks."
...this is a ridiculous statement. Show statistics to back this up. I sensed this about you initially, which is why I specifically chose you as a recipient of my "scorn" as you put it.
xy11xy 4 years ago
you are stupid. owning a gun is a right.. if you want to get rid of crime. get rid of the gun owners who use it for violence, not people who simply want to have a gun.
ajfsx 4 years ago
And who would those gun owners who use it for violence be? Let me guess..rappers?
xy11xy 4 years ago
no people who are famous for using guns for theft, murder, rape and violence.
ajfsx 4 years ago
White people?
xy11xy 4 years ago
sure. if you want to go after criminals.. go after people who glorify gun violence and murder and the networks who air them.
ajfsx 4 years ago
So, not rappers...not gangsters, white people. You really think white criminals are sitting around watching telly and listening to the radio and plotting their criminal strategy?
xy11xy 4 years ago
no all rappers belong in jail. if anyone wants to own gun then they should be able to, not criminals. l8ers.
ajfsx 4 years ago
Ok...exhibit 1: ajfsx
Thinks all rappers belong in jail. Wishes to be allowed to have a gun(to protect his family and property he says).
What say you? Do you trust this person? Do you trust him to assess a situation calmly and rationally and take appropriate action? If this person was your neighbor, would you be comforted by his gun ownership?
Glad to see you've overcome your cowardice by the way.
xy11xy 4 years ago
Having guns is every responsible citizen's right. like it or not it is going to be like that forever. so go and hide under your rock or else don't piss of a gun owner or else you know what is going to happen. l8ers.
ajfsx 4 years ago
ajfsx:
Claims he can foretell the future, saying the right to own guns will be forever. Implies that "pissing off" a gun owner has unnamed consequesncies.
Irrational? quite possibly. Would you trust this gunowner?
xy11xy 4 years ago
well owning a gun is everyone's right. so whether you like it or not it is going to remain like that. the entire south is for gun ownership, you will never be able to make them hand over their guns for a couple of northeast states because they well they live in a dillusional world. good luck making an ass out of yourself. libtard!! l8ers.
ajfsx 4 years ago
With your help I've made a cogent argument that it should not be a right.
Let's hope your wife or girlfriend, or kids, or neighbors, or random driver on the road do not piss you off...for their own sake.
xy11xy 4 years ago
wow so your life's big political decisions rely on the fact that you can make someone look violent when they aren't. how are you so smart? let me guess you are a douchebag liberal! OMGG IM RIGHT IM RIGHT!!!! i win.
ajfsx 4 years ago
Yes ajfsx, whatever you say, you win.
everyone else: ;-)
xy11xy 4 years ago
yah and owning a gun is everyone's right. responsible citizens that is. aight l8ers.
ajfsx 4 years ago
Which excludes you.
xy11xy 4 years ago
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ajfsx 4 years ago
Guns are an effective tool for self defense in the hands of a stable and centered person , who only wants to defend his freedom and his life , and a family if he has one . Police need guns because there are some soulless psychopaths on the loose and firearms help protect the citizens as well as them . It's a reality , there is a murderous element out there , and firearms give people a better chance to survive against that contingent . JV
Vectronics 4 years ago
If it wasn't for guns , we probably wouldn't even have a United States , and we wouldn't even be making vids pondering about their value or danger . We needed firearms in order to defeat native americans , the spanish , the british , and anyone else who got in the way of our dream of a free country . JV
Vectronics 4 years ago
Native Americans got in the way of your dream of a free country?
You used your guns to "break and enter" it was a criminal act on a large scale. So, the nation of Islam wishes to do the same to you..why do you resist? All is fair in love and war..no?
xy11xy 4 years ago
It's an interesting way to look at things, but let me enlighten you. As horrible as slavery is, it's only recently been about race and color in terms of historical reality. Classism and selling conquered enemies as slaves has been the main source of all slavery in history, and many civilizations have built wealth based on slavery. Slavery sucks, but the concept of slavery is as old as capitalizing on others for ones own benefit.
zabbledeedoo 4 years ago
And, in our own society the difference between slavery and employee is only as relevant as what we set as wages for labor and labor laws. Always keep this in mind. 1 cent an hour minimum and human dignity give by laws are the only thing that separates an employee from being a slave. FACT!!!!
zabbledeedoo 4 years ago
Most agreeable I am to your perspective in regards to gun control Cristofer7. Also, it some jest I offer that some people have an amalgamation of Red Dawn and Road Warrior (of those whom have actually seen these flicks) in mind that results in their view.
INSANEPOOKIE 4 years ago
This is not about gun control...I get that...this is not about "he who has the bigger gun wins"...I hear you...violence is not a sustainable strategy for managing the needs of a society a culture or a nation..I like what I am hearing....
2of6Solutions 4 years ago
Keep in mind that the second amendment is the "right" to bear arms. Not the "duty". Just because the option of violence is in the Constitution doesn't mean that everyone wants guns. It's a personal choice and it rightfully should be in the Bill of Rights as a last resort. Good vid though.
EternalFire00 4 years ago
you have some good points there but if someone wants to own a gun to protect his land or property or whatever then by all means he should be able to buy and have a fun. there is nothing wrong with it.. but these people(crack heads) who use it for violence and gang activity should be put in jail. i can't be bothered to get into useless debates and arguments. use your common sense it is simple.
ajfsx 4 years ago
This is not common sense.
xy11xy 4 years ago
If you could please try to minimize your profanity I think your message would be more respectable. "profanity is a feeble mind trying to express itself forcefully." I don't think you are feeble, your language doesn't do your intellect justice.
Anentity 4 years ago
And how much profanity would be acceptable to you?...1%, 5...10?
What you are asking him to do is be less like himself and more like you..make the video you would make if you had the ability.
If YOU could please widen your awareness and accept that highly intelligent adults do not restrict their language in any way. I would suggest you grow the FUCK up.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
This video has nothing to do with me, so why would you ask me what is acceptable??? If you are saying that profanity describes who cristofer is, then you have a very erroneous view of both language and personality. Sorry to tell you, but highly intelligent adults expand there language and discourse by using more efficient words to discribe their ideas.
Anentity 4 years ago
Aren't you paying attention? You asked him to "minimize" not eliminate his profanity which suggests reducing it to a supposedly acceptable level which you have predetermined. I am asking what that acceptable level is. Is that so difficult to understand?
Rantaholic 4 years ago
and I quote" If you could please try to minimize your profanity I think your message would be more respectable." I did not ask him to eliminate profanity in hispattern of speech because any rational person knows that profanity his habitual, and cannot be discarded like the newspaper. I shouldn't even have to tell someone something like this, it is really elementary. again, the less profanity the cleaner the content, like in movies, or video games.
Anentity 4 years ago
Good lord man, have you no comprehension skills! I swear..you could drive a person crazy with your obtuseness.
Again, this is elementary: He is a grown man and does not need you to tell him what to say and how to say it. You are insecure, manipulative and controlling..but bad at it. So, I guess that's a double failure.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
What does age have to do with profanity????? again you are lacking. Even "grown ups" need instruction, make mistakes, ect. You obviously never went to college. You are proving to be really insufficient.
Anentity 4 years ago
And, I know all about psychological game playing, one-upmanship, bullshit artistry, psychological control, preying on someone's psychological weaknesses. My initial assessment was correct; you're just bad at it.
You have an erroneous belief, and refuse to adjust it based on new evidence. Cristofer's profanity rolls off his tongue and punctuates his sentences. His language is already expanded and his message is received on all channels...so to speak.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
Very rarely have I heard such whimsical, judgemental, self assuming, and erroneous conversation. I will break it down for you, because I really think now you are confused. You keep putting me inside of your mind, which only makes you seem very ignorant. I was talking about language. It is not my belief, but English grammar that dictates proper usage and ect. "based on new evidence" really you are trying to hard. Again you come with an insult, which projects your insecurity.
Anentity 4 years ago
Again with the potluck thesaurus....You failed comprehension in school right? Ok, let me break it down:
Ok, I get the "inside your mind" imagery...but how that makes me seem ignorant...you lost me there.
Now, you've jumped from profanity to grammar...which are two different things. Are you saying "fuck" was grammatically incorrect? You're right, you are confusing me.
It is a belief that "proper" language should exclude certain words; however, my experience has shown me that is false.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
What is a potluck thesaurus???????? Enough, the conversation has eroded and digressed into name calling and insults like I knew it would with you. Well rant, your name seems to fit your character, this is not an insult, but observation. And you have shown that you are ill equiped to handle intellectual conversation, which supports your reasoning for personal attacks and "insults"
Anentity 4 years ago
And fuckin, and Motherfucking, is rediculous to use in order to fill the void of silence that would stand for a moment in order for you to arrange or culminate your ideas or theme. Rantaholic you have displayed your intellect, which was in this moment a combination of conjecture, pre conceived notions, and profanity. In typical fashion you project the menial mans idea of Self, which is a challenge in your eyes to me, but a lesser degree of psychological aptness in reality.
Anentity 4 years ago
Anentity- these are judgements... judgements on the sounds coming out of my mouth... intelligent adults use their (not there) more efficient words, and I did that. Motherfucker drives a point like few words do... but the fact that some words are put under a heading of unacceptable, to me, is silly... peace...
Cristofer7 4 years ago
Actually cris, I am an English major, you lose with this arguement. Language has purpose, meaning, rules, guidelines, and structure. It is judgement, and the rules have been long set. You really got me with (there) as if I didn't see it coming:) what ever makes you feel better. I did enjoy this video despite the harsh language, to leave on a neutral tone.
Anentity 4 years ago
Anentity-no one "loses"... Language does have a purpose, but I attempt to appeal to you as an individual, to see the nonsense in getting hung up on profanity. I do know it is a matter of taste, and if U simply cannot, I understand, but I felt obliged to offer another view anyway... take care, I am glad you enjoyed the video...
Cristofer7 4 years ago
That was just an expression, I feel as if you are in danger of taking things here in opposition to your message, when I only intended to suggest that profanity is a described lesser form of communication. Really I think it adds nothing to your over all theme, but just blimishes the content.
Anentity 4 years ago
There was no void; that is a figment of your erroneous beliefs.
My perception was of a smooth concept expressed from beginning to end without pause.
Anentity, this is the difference between a gifted communicator(Cristofer7) and a speaker(You)....the speaker plays eeny, meeny, miney, moe with the thesaurus and produces a disjointed counterintuitive message while the communicator says "fuck" and we get it!
Rantaholic 4 years ago
Actually I am an English major, so it may seem confusing to you that I use such words. So I understand your eeny ect. You also have implied that I am a speaker???? I have only typed. Also you imply that I the conversation is disjointed or confusing, which may be your perspective, but some how I believe the message isn't so confusing.
Anentity 4 years ago
Crap...where do you go to school??? LOL!
Language and communication is an intuitive; which is why not everyone can be a writer. Some people try to learn it but fail to communicate effectively. Maybe you should switch majors.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
I will no longer comment to you, please do not write me, you have been weighed and have been found "lacking"
Anentity 4 years ago
Yes, you "believe". You have a lot of beliefs that need reassessing. Take them out one by one, examine, and readjust based on new information.
And next time, don't try to chastise grown men about their language...attempt to soothe your insecurity some other way. Challenge them on their ideas or beliefs IF YOU CAN.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
Anentity-so my mind is feeble... now what? I fly above superficial judgements, but for those who get caught... I have no interest in catering to them... I am profane... if U can't deal with that, I understand...
Cristofer7 4 years ago
Cristofer, you failed to either understand or finish reading my statement, I hope you failed to read it, then I would not feel the pressure of speaking to an emotionally unstable person who reacts from what is percieved as negative without letting the message be heard. again, I said above, I don't think you are feeble. I would not ask you to cater to anything that you don't think is personally uplifting and respectable. Do not associate your personality with one word adjectives.
Anentity 4 years ago
You are controlling and manipulative. It's so obvious, can't you see it?
He's a grown man and far beyond being chastised for his language. But, you won't get that either.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
And another thing. It is clear to me that you have feebly attempted to hide insult and condescension within compliment. It is the condescension that is genuine, NOT the compliment. This suggests that what you really think is irrelevant.
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magnetmixerhands 4 years ago
You can't change the grammar after you make the comment of course. I meant to say, the only developed country in the world to have 10,000 handgun shootings a year.
dexarouskies 4 years ago
spare the rod spoil the child
redwine65 4 years ago
Good video. Your children are very lucky to have you for a father and will most likely grow up to be persons you will be proud of.
KevinBernal 4 years ago
Amendment II
A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed.
redwine65 4 years ago
That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
redwine65 4 years ago
Wrong the Government does represent us some ways. However there's a darker force behind all this check out teabowbraine's videos and get knowledge.
Btw guns don't kill people, it's the wrong people that they fall into triggers it.
rockmx8 4 years ago
Guns don't kill people --- force-initiative philosophies do.
BaelRunanima 4 years ago
10,000 shootings per year by handgun... in the only developed country in the world.. it's just DUMB.
dexarouskies 4 years ago
It does not matter the end will come from the middle east,within 20 yrs they will achieve nuclear weapons and they WILL detonate one in the united states, and then what will guns mean? As Edwin Starr said absolutley nothing!
ammarkie 4 years ago
As hard as it is to hear, sometimes violence is a solution; though should only be used as a last resort. Saying violence is never a solution is wishful thinking.
enclave2k1 4 years ago
Perfectly stated.
0600Zulu 4 years ago
Violence is justified and "moral" and the ONLY way when it comes to defense against the initiation of force. And ONLY against INITIATION of force.
Initiation of force however is the greatest evil and the sign of the looter.
As for our government being selfish. No it's not. It's selfless and altruistic. Which is why we're fucked and heading toward communism and why everyone has a gun and is chanting "overthrow the man." All we need now is a Mao Zedong.
BaelRunanima 4 years ago
i wasn't trying to end the convo or throw a buzzword. but i'm going thru kind of a shitty break-up right now so I really can't get into this. All i meant is that even if he was saying he doesn't "do" america (which i'm not sure he was), it doesn't particularly bother me.
boredgurl24 4 years ago
i agree that the idea of overthrowing the gov't with guns is ridiculous - either the US military is pro-revolution or anti-revolution, and no amount of guns will defeat the US air force, tanks etc. However I dont think theres anythign wrong with owning a gun for protection... not sure exactly what your point is here. violence is a bad defense just bc its easy?
evoneal 4 years ago
I've been thinking a lot about made up concepts lately, and your government analogy is a good one. God, satan, heaven, hell, good, evil, government: all boogeymen that people love to announce to emotionally influence others. And very effectively because people don't have enough common sense to laugh it off. BTW, I think hitting your kids IS the easy way out. Just saw it on the street today and it just looked so uneducated. :(
mwest1234 4 years ago
Good video, Cristofer7 - you have a new subscriber.
One thing, though - you said the government is the people, run by officials we elect. Unfortunately that isn't the case these days. Corporations run this country for the most part. The North American Union is being formed by the biggest corporations of America and most politicians, WITHOUT a single vote being cast for or against the plan to unite Canada and Mexico. But other than that, you have some great points.
Muaguana 4 years ago
The problem is memes, from what it sounds like.
TheAtheistPaladin 4 years ago
KFC!!!
TREBLINKA007 4 years ago
There's one good thing that came out of this debate. I had the pleasure to listen to a passionate and intelligent person expressing their opinion. I agree and disagree with you, but consider me subscribed.
cehbeach 4 years ago
Let's act like rebellious teenagers thinking we know more than our parents so fu$k histroy and what they thought. See the picture here; you need to grow up.
911fairytale 4 years ago
Guns dont kill people, people kill people, I personally im unviolent and do not prefer weapons of any kind, i mean people can be killed with anything nowadays lol guns are just an epitamy of violence.
sAINTJuggalo 4 years ago
Guns don't kill people. Bullets kill people.
andwar99 4 years ago
Yes, violence is totally immoral to initiate and government is all about initiating violence against its constituents. I don't see common people on the street doing business shooting each other. It is the percieved legitimacy of government violence that allows people to play by different rules once they walk in to some arbitrary nominated building.
lordmetroid 4 years ago
agree 99.999%
munkiiboi 4 years ago
So what are you advocating here fakesagan? American mentality over mankind? Now tell me who is acting like a mindless robot! That was a typical ''push the american patriotism button'' answer. It is a fact that your 4 fathers were visionaries 300 years ago, they were also slave owners. We're in the beginning of the 21st century! Times change and people change! Ideologies must do the same!
SliceSupeRStaR 4 years ago
I am not against guns; however, guns are specifically for one thing and one thing only : to kill. So it is a bit of a Catch 22. First amendment needs to be ratified right to bear arms and form a militia; a militia,m when is the last time you saw a militia? Unfortunately the media glorifies violence; young people are so impressed by such and the cycle goes on and on. It ultimately comes down to the parents and the values they teach and hopefully successfully teach.
cosmicquestgirl 4 years ago
I think you're right about the "old argument" thing, Chris. It's like a well-worn trench that people don't know how to climb out of, or avoid falling into. Enttrenched thinking is what it is.
I'd love to see you (and others) bring that same insight to the "science/religion/atheism" topic. That's an even older and more worn-out trench. Some new ways of looking at it would be great.
papackar 4 years ago
I enjoyed listening to this. Very good.
tomrv107 4 years ago
I agree with you on all points, but I an not surprised at the responses you received. People are ignorant of how the government actually works, how it changes, and the methods of making it change. It is cynical, willful ignorance.
Be prepared for the hate mail, dude. There are a lot of paranoid folks in this country.
bryantulsa 4 years ago
The US government is -not- you; it's rich, powerful men and women backed by powerful corporate interests (massive campaign financing corrupts them all). Not you. Honestly dude, do your homework; the US is definitely NOT "by the people".
linksysrouted 4 years ago
heh.. "the law of the land" Have you been keeping up on your own government lately? You're one terror attack away from losing your constitution.
linksysrouted 4 years ago
So the entire, grand thesis of this video is "Guns don't kill people, PEOPLE kill people," which is ironic because that in itself IS an old argument.
Vinifera7 4 years ago
"Us" is not the government, "Us" is not here to protect us. "Us" is just of an environment that is ready to kill you for it's survival. Just because we are capable of forming a philosophy doesn't mean we can accomplish it right away. We have 3000 years of "known" history that shows us this: if you want peace, prepare for war. It goes not only for tribes and nations, but to individuals too. It goes not only for the physical level of self but to the intelectual level too.
florinmiu 4 years ago
When I finally get my own home I will go buy one gun not because its cool or because I need to protect myself from the goverment, but from burglers, robbers, and people that want to hurt me or my family. Thats the only reason anyone should ever have guns for.
Excelion333 4 years ago
Good video: violence is not viable long-term problem solving tool.
Below are some interesting videos that I've recently come across... check them out when you get a chance.
Modern-Day Slavery
youtube. com/watch?v=6G3eehgyz0E
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised [1/7] [proper]
youtube. com/watch?v=snEs06WfKEM
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29XXX 4 years ago
Great video. Five stars. keep it up!
CzarnyZazul 4 years ago
He also told me Richard Dawkins was "a laughing stock of the philosophical community" and I'm like, "So? he's a SCIENTIST". Now I have some respect for philosophy, but of a Science contradicts a Philosophy than too bad for the philosophy.
dechha1981 4 years ago
Mm hmm mmm hmm yep. Theists often use arguements that have been Pwned to death a million times by now. And they're so old you can rebut them using bumperstickers.
The other day, a guy who claimed to have a masters in philosophy actually sent me a more technical version of First Cause, and refused to achnowledge that "the universe began to exist" and "an actual infinite cannot exist" are unproven assumptions, therefore his whole arguement falls apart.
dechha1981 4 years ago
The government represents the owning class. Think about it. Why do we have so few candidates? Why are there only two parties that ever win? How is it that the same company that makes the electronic voting machines is also a major campaign contributor to Bush? Maybe because the presidency is bought and sold.
atypicalguy 4 years ago
In the last 30 years, 170 million violent and nonviolent crimes were committed by Blacks against Whites in the U.S. Some 90% of the victims of race crimes are Whites. Blacks commit 7.5 times more violent interracial crimes than Whites, although they comprise only one-seventh of the White population.
AtheistMaximus 4 years ago
I wonder if it has anything to do with poverty and hopelessness.
linksysrouted 4 years ago
I suggest that you post a sign outside your house saying it is a white household and only white criminals will be admitted. Then, you can have the honor of being murdered by your own kind....oh, make that sign say: Stupid white criminals only.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
This is why I have guns: More than 1,600 Whites are murdered by Blacks each year. Blacks murder Whites at 18 times the rate Whites murder Blacks. About 1 million Whites were murdered, robbed, assaulted, or raped by Blacks in 1992.
AtheistMaximus 4 years ago
Noooo. You have guns because it is not enough for a would be warrior to sit of the sofa with his hand down the front of his sweat pants, and a six pack of beer grunting to his favorite sports team. You want a piece of the action. You need to hunt. Never mind that there's stupid written all over your face; you NEED to hunt.
Rantaholic 4 years ago
if the government doesnt fucking change, then we have to make them change.whatever it takes,if it means fighting against them, so be it.
chaostreet 4 years ago
the government isnt supposed to be a boogie man in theory, but it IS in REALITY."us" is not one thing,we are white,black,brown,yellow,poor,rich,wealthy,broke..as long as there is a government, it will represent those who MAKE UP the government, and that is RICH fucking people.if the government REALLY represented "US", then it would not be comprised of 99% percent rich white people.
chaostreet 4 years ago
there would be poor people in the government,there would be people with all kinds of creeds and colors..the government in place now DOES NOT REPRESENT "US", it only represents a certain few.
chaostreet 4 years ago
agreed .
arconus 4 years ago
An example of how society can work without the use of voilence to resolve differences would probably be the U.S. government. It's not perfect, but when was the last time you seen senators and representatives punching each other out in Congress in making the laws despite differences in views and opinions? No government is perfect, but if it can work without violence, then there's hope. But can the whole world can work that way?
WhoWhatWhyWhere 4 years ago
I don't want to sound like a stuck up American because I'm sure there are other governments in this world that can government their differences for their country without violence. So if anyone knows of any other governments debating and making laws without smacking each other, just name some here. I'm just trying to make a point that there may possibly be a way to resolve issues and differences without violence for the sake of mankind. It's a start, right?
WhoWhatWhyWhere 4 years ago