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  • "IF YOU CANT STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS THEN BY ALL MEANS STAND IN FRONT OF THEM"

  • @2012vote I for one agree. Freedom never comes free!!!

    Semper Fi, always fathful

  • They've obviously never lived outside of the US. If they had, they'd come to appreciate and respect our Military. It's because of all these brave men and women that we still have our freedom. If they started protesting in N.Korea, they'd be executed on the spot. No questions asked.

  • if i was going to enter that marine recruting office i would not allow those hippies to stand in my way.

  • I think they paid those guys to dress up as police and stand there and told them to say that they are remaining netural.

  • this guys a fucking douchebag

  • millions of dead civilians in the middle east, thousands of dead US troops,deficits,torture,no bid contracts, illegal wire tapping,secret prisons,no wmds,depleted uranium, etc......and your sickened by a recruiting office being blocked? "those who trade freedom for safety deserve neither"- Benjamin Franklin

  • I like the way this guys makes all the points I hate code pink soooo much SEMPER FI

  • damn pinko commies i hate california even if i live in the crappy state its dead weight to the great nation of the usa

  • they probably use fuzzy hand cuffs to lol

  • Could someone have made a citizens arrest?

  • berkeley is a corny fuckin city yo.

  • Oh I pray for a backlash against the left that will end with Pinko commies like these washed up leftist hags lying in the gutter, bleeding, and crying for the protection from those they despise.

    Wouldnt that be a pretty picture....

  • im with ya on that one

  • but its not right what code pinks doing but the marine office is still there so obviously what ever code pink did didnt work, oh and those arent security gaurds dumbass those are Berkeley police in the custom made wind coats buddy

  • hey mr boston why dont u shut the fuck up about my city buddy.. no not everyone in berkeley is a code pink fag im a fucking pure bred american mutherfucka born and raised in berkeley california and i dont fuck with code pink goofs ok but i dont fuck with all you wannabe tuff midwestern mutherfuckers thinking berkeleys all pinkies and cupcakes cuz its not. come to my block and i promise you wont see one hippie bruh. i dont got time to fucking tell the police to inforce the law i got a job and sht

  • The police in this video look like they have iron on uniform logos ha! well, if it were me, I'd just wave a pistol in these fuckin retarded peoples' faces and get them out of my fucking way. I can't believe I joined the US Military thinking that America would be appreciative that young men and women are willing to give their lives while other civilians eat at fucking mcdonalds and gaind 400 fucking lbs. what is wrong with out country? I hate fat people.

  • Im in the Army, and i think the should be put in Somalia, then they might appreciate the US Military.

  • Call the Fire marshal thats blocking an exit and thats a fire hazard

  • Thats bull, the police didn't even do their job.

  • /watch?v=uNWA3dNBNHc

  • I hope the cops just refuse to even work in Berkeley. They hate cops, anyway, let the criminals run it and let the hippies rot in anarchy. They deserve it.

  • since i am going to be a marine if i was that guy i would deck all of those poeple

  • This is why I don't live in California.....all fucking hippies

  • @jparish62 Dude, don't wanna bust your balls, but MCRD San Diego makes God damn Marines. Wanna guess where San Diego is? yeah, all fucking hippies.

    You ignorant fuck.

  • @deadelite117 Dude, I went to MCRD San Diego and was stationed at Camp Pendleton. 90% of the Marines and sailors stationed in California are from elsewhere...you ignorant fuck.

  • @jparish62 Man, I'm not gonna go back and forth because, honestly, we don't need to fight about anything. I shouldn't have started it, I was just fired up watching these Code Pink commies. We're on the same side against these fucktards.

    If I was getting blocked from going into that building I would not have been as polite as that guy.

  • @deadelite117 good call. I apologize as well. we don't need to get at each others throats. we need to get at these commie bastard's throats.

  • @deadelite117 every one west of the Mississippi river goes to MCRD for training

  • obviously never BEEN to berkeley. complete shit hole.

  • Wasn't that person, not a police officer but a security guard. I have no love for Berkeley or code stink. But dont spoof the video saying a security guard is the law. Still FUCK BERKELEY.

  • beleive me i dont want war eather but in the world fighting is the only way to stop terriosim in this world its sad but its true

    god bless all soldiers fighting for the portection of are county.

  • if there dieing for your country over there you fucking reporters and annoying paprazis the least you could do is not harass them. jeesus none of you have respect man paprazis and reporters so annoying

    so what if the police officers are letting them block all those so they dont get harassed

    for you people who protest war maybe its bad but would you want terriosts coming and bombing us. you protesters dont know fucking shit about warfare or whats going on in the other parts of the world.

  • The claims/premises that Code Pink is founded on are incorrect but they do have one valid conclusion.Bush despite the intelligence communities findings thrust us into war. I say this not from opinion but from evidence. NIE 2003 16 intelligence agencies confirmed no WMDs in Iraq the 9/11 Commission report confirms no Al Queda-Saddam Link. "Curveball" CIA source into Iraq "WMD Program" was unreliable.Stop waving your flag do us a favor and DO YOUR research.My God what would be founding fathers say

  • protestors have been maltreated by police all over the nation. none of you crazed militry loving people ever complain about that shit. free speech stopped at dnc and rnc. but now, you have your panties in a bunch. fucking pricks. cant handle a few women in pink??? haha .

  • The people who oppose the war are primarily college educated.

    The people who support the war are primarily high school graduates who have had no college.

    Do you think that says something?

    Your wrong.

    They have been ENLIGHTENED, not brainwashed, enlightened by college professors who have also been enlightened.

    Have you ever spoke to someone who is an Iraqi veteran?

    Ive spoken to a few and they disagree with the war.

    THe ones who agree are typically EXTREMELY religious.

  • I love it when you are wrong as you are in your above dribble of a comment.

  • Then prove me wrong dude.

    You have no ability to debate.

    You resort to name calling.

    Show facts.

    Put links.

    You prove nothing.

    I can guarantee you that most people talking smarch about Code pink on here are not in college.

    The people who are anti-war (which is anyones right to be) are typically in college, or have already graduated.

    Leave the important stuff to us college people.

    We know the truth.

  • I do not have to prove anything to the likes of you, nor do I have a desire to.

  • Then you have a weak argument.

    If you had a strong argument you would have no problem posting it.

  • Yawn

  • @skeetrosauce Yeah to bad college wont get you shit anymore huh?

  • @skeetrosauce buddy...being college educated has NOTHING to do with your position on war. If you're so college smart then you'll know that truth is relative and that making vast (inaccurate) assumptions like you have is grossly ignorant. So get off your ass, quit picking fights on youtube, and write a dissertation or go join your fellow bitch-hippies and abuse the rights the the USMC proudly defends.

    Signed ~ 2010 college grad, 2011 USMC Officer Candidate Course enrollee

    (OOHRAH)

  • code pinkos from berzerkly and city coucil are all weasels for doing this, there alliengenc is to the illegel gangbangers that kill and rape american citizens mayor newsom is a freakin commuinst

  • Hell yeah.

    Long live Marxism-Leninism!

  • Yeah, let it live long so we will never forget what evil is.

  • 1848, the year that changed the world. The year the Manifesto was written. The equal distribution of wealth is evil? The workers owning the factories is evil? No thats not evil. Starting wars and killing innocent people for the sake of imperialism, now that my friend is evil. Outing a CIA agent is evil. Attacking a country preemptively is evil. Communism is not evil. You sound like Joseph McCarthy. Did the domino theory ever hold? No it didnt. There are more things to fear than communism
  • if their is a distrubution of wealth, what would drive the economy? What incentives would there be to go to school get an education and be succussful? What incentive would buisness owners have to run a buisness and employ others. I'm not saying that it is an evil thought, it just doesn't make sense.

  • Again your reply is filled with hatred, and interestingly enough, no fact but sheer opinion.

    I understand that this is my opinion too, but at least I can elaborate on what I believe.

  • Why would you think a socialist system could work when you have the whole world working to bring it down?

    I understand that Communists want an end to Capitalism, the only difference is they dont have many countries in the world on their side.

    It makes sense that communist systems have collapsed. We never gave them a chance to work.

    Look at Cuba.

    Look at Venezuela.

    Despite the attempted coups and assassinations they seem to be working just fine.

    I give any country credit that stands up to U.S

  • Are you moroncially brain dead or it just comes naturally,

  • I would care about what you say, if it had to do with politics and what is being discussed.

    Your ability to call me names does nothing to further your argument. It makes me look better because I can present facts and engage in debate whereas you only know how to write a small sentence with no facts or debate points. You only call people names.

    Im a college student with 2 majors, Political Science and International studies.

    Ive had Repub. and Dem. professors.

    Hit me back when u wanna debate

  • gay

  • amen, police are not neutral, they uphold the law and the law states that one caanot stop another citizen from conducting any legal business or enter into a legal establishment

  • Does that cross on your neck represent objectivity or fairy tales? Nuff said. Not all anarchy is bad either. It is more common in fascist countries. Here we call it libertarian.

  • Finally, someone who isnt a tool.

    Your a true patriot.

    Indeed, Anarchy is possible.

    Read about Spanish Anarchism.

  • quick example of the hypocrasy: i was just watching a video where a pinky was complaining that the marines were violating his freedoms. he didn't have a reason except that they go to highschools just like any college, university, or job school. then, i see this where these people are literally and physically impeding on the freedom of others by blocking them from a business with which they have no legal association. hypocrasy at its finest.

  • That is an excellent example of why Michael Savage says, "liberalism is a mental disorder."

    Do you know any liberals capable of rational thought without being flooded with emotion?

  • Do you know any conservatives capable of rational thought without being flooded with hatred?

    Why is it bad that he is being neutral?

    I guess you would like them to slaughter all of code pink. It seems that you are flooded with emotion.

    Blindly following your gov't and not asking questions and making leaders accountable is a mental disorder.

    When war with Iran is declared I hope your going to be the first one to sign up and die because your told to do so by our Gov't.

    Wake UP!

  • PropagandaBuster, I hear ya. Where are the patriots in that town? or the county? or even state? If I were anywhere near there I'd do something about it. It's the Marines, it's not an abortion office, it's the recruitment office mainly for young individuals who feel a higher calling for their nation, wtf? That's unacceptable, we are at war, and this is how some of our people behave? Did everyone forget 9/11?

  • They have been brainwashed by the constant barrage of anti-military, anti-Iraqi war propaganda from the perverts in Hollywood, the fifth columnist in academia, and the leftist in the news media who refuse to report the good news and victories in Iraq.

  • your an idiot, listen to what your saying, you should stop bashing the cops of berkeley because they are doing there job. plus being a cop is a respectable job. you should work on your speech before bashing people. I'll even go as far as to say that California is more respected then your pathetic state. As for your comment about being neutral, neutral is key for peace.

  • And for those people under... the U.S. Military Corps. have been sending hostages to extremists and hiring people specialized in human torture for that matter. Even if they don't fire into a crowd of children, is it right to send hostages to people whose job is human torture...?

  • And I'll tell you that you have a really big mole stationed at the center of your nostril!!

  • That is not a mole. I was in my food pantry when a large can fell off the top shelf hitting me right in my big nose causing that mole like scab.

  • amazing california needs to just fall into the ocean!

  • hey fuck you. you can kiss my ass. your ignoratn. just stop talking, you'll be better off.

  • An Open Mind Is like A Fortress With Its Gates Uand Ungardednbarred

  • there needs to be snipers set up around the recruiting station so they can shoot down code pinkies... i'll vulenteer...

  • ha ha me too!

  • Hell you don't even need snipers, just one guy with a gattling gun at the front door.

  • "the blue costume" I love it. Yessir, I threw up. So what if I blocked the entrance to the bookstore next door cos, I don't know, I said I didn;t like the books they were selling. "Neutral as posssible." 1. Ask to speak to his superior officer on the scene. 2. Ask for his badge # cos you are going to swear out a complaint for dereliction of duty 3. Tell him you are going in the office and if they lay a f*cking hand on me that is assault and he'd damn well better do something.

  • that guy is funny. i hate liberal fascists. i agree with capsource1 on his points of "if bush is a fascist". berkely just needs to be shut the fuck down.

  • HHAHAHAHAHA, you call liberal's facist, when it's you and your retarded leader that are commiting war crimes and shit. Shuting down Berkley....*scoff*, we needa shut up the fuckign marine corp...consevative shits like you, pro life and yet killing childrens in iraq. Disgusting

  • If some little kid had a bomb wrapped around the waist and was getting ready to blow you up would you just sit back and let it happen or would you try to save your ass????

  • yeah i would try to save my live if a kid with a bomb on his back was run towards me.

    but unlike whats going on now in iraq, i would not massacre entire crowds full of children's just because there is a slight chance one of them has a bomb.

  • the military does not do that, thats a load of crap.

  • please show me one credible link of U.S. soldiers and Marines firing into crowds without any cause

  • Right on brother You tell it!

  • This is what happens when you have liberals that hate our country running a city police dept.

  • HELL YES!!!!! TEXAS RULES! Those cops would shoot them!!!!!!!! They would not even hesistate!! REAL cops dont remain neutral in situations like that! Berkeley SUCKS! We should turn berkeley over to AL Quaeda....that would be fun!

  • Why stay away? All patriotic Americans need to show up and support our military. Thanks for the alert!!

  • I'm showing up with my Marine T-Shirt!

  • I'm not gonna blame the cops cause i think the problem is a little higher up the chain of command

  • Good job! This is the video that I was talking about in my video responce. Great video, and way to put it inperspective! Not in Texas!!! Hell yeah! You should of shown the black guy who forced his way in, and a guy fell down; doing the whole fake soccer fall. Fake soccer fall is a totall act to get a penalty on the other team.

  • If Bush is a fascist -- if Bush is worse then Hitler then why in the fuck is he letting these people protest!!! Why isn't he rounding up people? Why isn't he shutting down the press like Hugo Chavez is? If he's a fascist why are we holding elections? If he's a fascist then why isn't he being impeached? If he's a fascist and he leaves Washington in Jan 09 and flys back to Texas are you going to apologize to me and the American people? Because a true fascist wouldn't just leave now would they?

  • Now, now, you are using reason when liberals only understand emotion. However you do bring up very excellent points. May I use them?

  • Good point, I agree, but your accent is disgusting too

  • So at age twenty you are burdened with being a sectionalist?

  • thanks for telling it like it really is.

  • Hey PB, what did you do to your nose?

    You've been out head-butting Code Pinkos!?

  • I wish that was it. But the sad truth is I was getting something out of the pantry and a jar came falling down from the top shelf right into my nose. It hit me so hard, I was surprised it did not cause a black eye. Thanks for your concern.

  • good video. I agree with everything you say. BOYCOTT BERKELEY

  • What happened in Berkeley is totally disgusting. I served in the Marines so that idiots like that can protest.

  • you are my hero

  • Why are code pinkies so ugly? Do they audition like modelling agencies only grade in reverse? I love how liberals are all about freedom of speech, expression, and free enterprise, but only as long you agree with them.

    I feel sorry for that cop, you could tell it tweaked him when asked about "{allowing them to violate the law, is that your function?}", probably a mandate from a superior preventing him from taking action.

  • The are ugly because they are always angry, and being angry makes one ugly.

  • Good point, good thing I spend most of my free time laughing at my foolish friends, and pissing my pants laughing at these libtards.

  • Any city with a council that dictates policy to the Police Chief can attest to the poor cop's discomfort. I work for such a police agency and it is sickening to have our hands tied by the city council and not allowed to enforce the law "equally and without prejudice". Our chief imposes policies we KNOW come from city hall - and we can either leave, or toe the line. Disgusting? YES. Sadly, it's reality for many who started with noble ideals and became wage slaves somewhere along the line.

  • These are the most blind nonsense ignorant statements I have ever heard in my life!

  • Then you must have not seen my other videos.

  • Okay, now you are being a little dramatic. It is something way different by allowing free speech and freedom of assembly, than what happened at the Nuremberg trials. I have family who served in the military and I have very close friends in Iraq. They know my personal opinion and they know the job I have to do. Obviousily, you have never served in any type of situation where you take orders and you life and the lives of others, depends on you following orders.

  • who's life was in danger on that sidewalk?

  • First off, "blue flu" come on. I am a police officer and I can tell you, most of us do not participate in "blue flu" because we don't want any other police officers injured.

    Secondly, we are like the military, we do not get to chose our battles, we have to follow order.

    Think before you speak. We do not get to express out personal opinions, our opinions do not matter, we take our orders from the city, even tho how crazy they might be.

  • First let me say, thank you sir for your protection and service. I do have to say the part about taking orders is something out of the Nuremberg Trails.

  • That's just grossly dramatic. It's the superiors who gave the orders who are to blame and while you can draw that little red line, this situation cannot compare to the Nuremberg Trials. Unless I'm very much mistaken, officers don't have the army line in the rules that state (roughly) that if they find an order in dereliction of duty or against responsibility that they can decline to follow it. I'm not sure, probably because it's 5:50 AM, pls message me or something.

  • Maybe taht explains the stupidity at berkley...

  • The Soviets were attempting to spread Communism and they did not leave simply because they were loosing too many young men, they left because they couldn't afford the war that we were helping to fund against them. If we leave Iraq early it will send a message to the people of Iraq that we don't care about them, and it will also tell the terrorist that are left that they have won. Terrorist will assume that America is run by a bunch of slimy socialist that have no commitment to their children.

  • behemoth: Please tell me what you think the margin of victory really is? When will enough be enough? How many more people have to die before we can feel confident that we have have won the war? And BTW, I am thinking your last line was utter sarcasm because it made me laugh a good one.

  • The margin of victory will be when Iraq has a stable government again. I personally don't think we will see terrorism end in our lifetime and so this "war", no matter where it is will not be over anytime soon and people willl continue to die. Such is life and that is the way it always has been and always will be. No matter who is in office or what they tell you to try to get elected. Dem or Rep we will still be over there is some form for quite some time.

  • behemoth do you have young kids? How can you so flippantly commit the future generations to destruction death and killing in Iraq ...

    "Such is life and that is the way it always has been and always will be."

    Words of a coward or a sheep take your pick.

    sounds like you share my skepticism of the govt, but you need to continue down the rabbit hole to find out the real truth.

    See you at the bottom.

    ~Refuse a life of fear~

  • I have four children, and I like my father have served in the military. I encourage my children to serve their country in some shape or form.

    They may sound like words of a coward to you but I am just stating the obvious. As a scholar of history I know from my studies that there will always be some conflict somewhere. When you have an entire religion or society that is bent on converting everyone to their way or death then you know that the future is going to be "destructive", for all.

  • Propagandamaker you are a wolf in sheeps clothing. This shit you spew is the real danger to America's freedoms... not a bunch of crazy bitches protesting the war.

    Quit hiding your hate for civil liberties behind the guise of patriotism.

    Its ignorant asshole bigots like you that stir up other ignorant asshole bigots into advocating violence against peacufull protestors.

    Fitting that you seem to worship the Nazi propaganda master himself. Do you jerk off to his picture too?

  • original poster - ancestralyuba

    Shame on Berkeley. A complete disgrace. 5th generation Californian, here. Never one dime for Berkeley.

  • I have no idea why "ancestralyuba's" message was blocked as spam. However I just unblocked it.

  • Besides PB, why dont you have the balls to answer the question about if we can even afford this war?

  • mMicmart3000: it must be obvious we can afford this war, because the war on terror continues.

  • you are either very rich or very stupid....well we know you are stupid at least.

    That ignorant statement sounds like a teenager using their parents credit card...Oh dont worrry Daddys gonna pay for it...Why do you not acknowledge the recession, crumbling housing market or drastic reduction in the value of the dollar? Not because of Iraq huh?

    Idiot

    The govt does not give a flying fuck they are all CFR anyway and want to see us in trouble so they can "rescue" us via the North American Union.

  • micmart3000: So you are the smart one? Calling you smart sounds rather stupid to me. See I insulted you without calling you stupid.

  • protesting the right of the USA defending it self ? how can the freedom of protesting and education be protected without a military defending those rights in ideal world there would be no armys , we do not live in that world .

  • Shame on Berkeley. A complete disgrace. 5th generation Californian, here. Never one dime for Berkeley.

  • That's typical ultra-left wing tactics for ya, I tell ya, if they tried to keep me from going in, there'd be some furniture movin' goin on in that summamabitch...that's Berkely for ya...don't count on it ever being any different.

  • You are all a bunch of sheep, scared shitless into a life of fear and war mongering. The reality of the world today is that no nation would dare attack us...we have enough Nukes to wipe out anyone. The more our empire expands, the more our economy suffers here at home.

    All we are doing in Iraq is killing a lot of people and wasting brave american soldiers.

    4000 marines dead now...for what?? To secure the price of oil?

    Price of Oil pre-invasion 27$ per barrel

    Price now 100$ per barrel

  • original poster - ancestralyuba

    Shame on Berkeley. A complete disgrace. 5th generation Californian, here. Never one dime for Berkeley.

  • Micmart, you're a pinhead. I'm scared of NOTHING. And it's not a NATION that is attacking us, it's extremists of various nations. And even if another attacked us, who says anyone would use nukes? I'm NOT in favor of the war, the POINT is that these leftist are targeting the WRONG people themselves.

    I regret losing even one soldier (not JUST Marines, skippy) and if you'd bother to look, the cost of oil is affected by many things like production and demand elsewhere in the world like CHINA!

  • Way to selectively respond to my challenge you fucking Oriely clone. Tell me something genius...how exactly do we win this war on "Terror"?

    You think it stops in Iraq? Fuck no...if these assholes have their way the war will NEVER end.See how much more you "regret" losing soldiers 10 fucking years and 5000 more military deaths from now when we are still at war. We cannot affor to police the world....Why dont any of you war mongering motherfuckers address this fact....War will kill our economy.

  • micmart3000: Since you have expressed your deep understanding concerning the current war on terror, perhaps then you can tell us how we prevent terrorist from attacking America again? As the patriot that you are I am confident you have come up with a way to keep us secure other than the use of our military.

  • You cant prevent individuals from attacking us asshole that is just the point. If they are going to do it they are going to do it...there is no winning this bullshit war for profit.

    You tell me what your theory is on winning the war on terror? We are not fighting a nation but a concept. A war against a concept NEVER ENDS.

  • What challenge was that pinhead? And are you trying to spell O'Rielly? HAH! I think he's a bigger idiot that you are. How do we win? You CAN'T! There's no END as long as extremists wish to attack us any way they can. But it doesn't mean you DON'T DO ANYTHING! And I DO regret it. I HAVE LOST friends there. I didn't say I agreed with Bush's policies or methods, of THIS WAR. But if you're dumb enough to think we can just leave and that'll end it, you're a bigger fool than I thought!

  • Don't assume I believe the right (or left's propaganda. I STILL have friends there that have told me what they're dealing with, what's good and what's bad. But whether we like it or NOT, we can't just up and leave since we started this thing. Otherwise, sure as HELL we'll have to comeback a THIRD time...

  • OK DICKHEADS I"LL SHOUT IT THIS TIME:

    WE CANT AFFORD THIS FUCKING WAR IT IS GOING TO KILL OUR ECONOMY!!

    Why do all you ignorant motherfuckes refuse to address this elephant in the room? You think we can keep borrowing or printing money forver ?

  • Wow, what a child. This is exactly why the far left is never taken seriously, you're all a bunch of foul-mouthed, whiney, disrespectful adolescents. We KNOW the WAR is hurting the economy. Address THIS: Why do you bounce between arguments when you start to lose one? Initially you said, we were afraid and this war is about oil, which is it? I think the pot has completely fucked up your short term memory....

    And don't assume I'm a Republican, I'm not. I'm a pragmatist.

  • Far left? I am a registered republican and a proud conservative asshole.

    Bouncing?? This war IS about Oil and you are too afraid to admit that there is no winning it. All the pot in the world wont cloud that FACT.

    What does that have to do with whether we can afford it or not?

    Address the point pussy....Dont hide behind the labels...

    Lets hear your solution for this war on Terror? How do we win it and keep our economy from collapsing in the process?

  • micmart3000: May I ask you to please reconsider your Republican status?

  • Why you are the only fake conservative here....Have some balls to stand up for true conservative values like NO NATION BUILDING!!!!

  • I think you have your conservatism confused with you really being a libertarian.

  • No what you are confused with is that your idea of conservatsm is really Neo Conservastism which is NOT true conservatism.

    The republican party was founded on the priciples of small government and NO NATION BUILDING. How can you call yourself a republican when you advocate nation building by supporting this war? How can you be a true republican if you wont even stand up for the fucking constitution and defend free speech instead of advocating violence against it?

  • Why should anyone respect an asshole who advocates the death of our Fine soldiers for the sake of an imperialist agenda designed by a few people who dont give a shit about the average american?

    Why should I not be pissed off to the point of cursing all you miotherfuckers? 4000 soldiers dead now ....minimum 150,000Iraqis.....FOR WHAT ????

    To defend freedom? Pull your fucking head out of your ass.

  • micmart3000: Have I told you yet that you have a potty mouth?

  • So what, it should come as no suprise that listening to all you assholes try to scare people into believing our only choice is to police the world would reall piss some people off. I am certainly not the only one. One day you are gonna realize that a war against a concept is unwinnable and then at that moment you will also see that our brave soldiers died for a big fucking LIE. And yet you think anyone else who realizes this is bad for cursing about it? Fuck you.

  • Wow, your idiocy is really painful to see. You're the one putting down the soldiers who are only doing their duty.

    Who gives a fuck if you're pissed? You don't matter, not one bit. And unlike you, my ass and my head are at opposite end of my body, apparently your are interchangeable for you do so much talking outta yer ass, while shitting out yer mouth...

  • Please explain your ignorant ass statement and detail exactly how I have disrespected any member of the military. I have nothing but respect for them and have always said so.

    Regardless it does not mean I have to conform to your Sheeple way of thinking and support this Bullshit war. I am the true patriot, not you. I am not against all war...only needless wars for profit....especially when assholes lie to us to send us there.

  • You're the winner! Happy now? But lemme ask, do you REALLY think you accomplished a damn thing except to make yourself look like a rude, reactionary, pigheaded, foulmouthed asshole. If you think we like this war, you're NUTS. Once AGAIN we MUST understand what we're fighting and figure out HOW to get out without leaving a VOID that will cause us bigger problems. And mic, I've seen patriots and YOU AIN'T IT

  • Why do you refuse the ugly truth that there is no war to ewi the war on terror because we are fighting a concept not a nation??? this means there will always be more Terrorists to go to war with???When does it end? How can you blindly advocate such death and destruction with no percievable end in site???

  • Did I SAY THAT? My GOD, you infer all kinds of things. I know this WAR s BS! But we JUST CAN'T up and leave because sure as HELL, we'll send MORE kids to die another time. To answer your question, this kind of vigilance DOESN'T end. It doesn't mean go start a war in another nation or remove tyrants, but if you can discern who attacked you, who is GOING TO attack you (even if you're occasionally wrong) then you bring the FIGHT to them. I wonder how you'd feel if a few car bombs went off here...

  • Ok I'll stop typing like a rabid dog but please answer what is the truest way to bring hononr to your commrades? You are proving my point when you acklowledge that the "Vigillance" is never ending...hence we are alway going to be spoon fed some bullshit to keep us at war. Whay cant you see that?

    There is no solution to this mess but to get up and leave...took the soviets 10 years to admit this about Afghanistan and when they finally did coem home theri economy was irreparably damaged from War.

  • Mic, I NEVER diagreed with your point! If you'd have stop frothing long enough to listen, you KNOW that. I already said I know this war is BS (for oil or otherswise), the POINT is leaving it without rule will cause it to become worse than it was before. So you tellme now are you saying there are NO legitimate threats? And you think I'm naive? The difference with the soviets is that muslims aren't focused on destroying their nation...yet. There many reasons they collapsed aside from the war.

  • As far as bringing honor to them, the TRUEST way is to recognize the sacrifice they made (you think they wanted to die?) and work to make government accountable. As far as THIS administration goes, going after them is like closing the door after the horse got out. The fact is I didn't vote for this Bush either time because it was CLEAR to me he was NOT up to the job. Why that wasn't clear to some 62 million other Americans in '04 is beyond me.

  • Completely agree with making Govt accountable that is the real war that needs to be won. And bravo for having the balls to stand up for your beliefs by joining VAIW. That said, I am deeply troubled by the fact that America wont wake up and realize the CFR is controlling our society....it is not a coinkidink that every president after Kennedy has been a member....Nor is it another coinkidink that the Kennedy family has been bashed into submission through assasination.

  • I'm not sure I'm to the point that I believe there's some massive conspiracy, I tend to reject the idea that people can keep such things secret, when they can't keep a friggin secret about a BJ in the White House. That said, the elitism and potential for massive undue influence to troubling to say the least and it bears continued vigilance.

  • Have you ever been hypnotized?

    If you have you would know that roughly 40% of the average population is capable of being induced into a hypnotic state trance with minimal effort...Imagine what a mind control program could produce that had millions of dollars and 5 decades of researc and developement behind it...MK Ultra was the seed. Knowing this it is not so unreasonable to believe many, many people could participate in a conspiracy and not even know it.

  • With all due respect, youre propeller is spinning wildly, sorry I don't buy mass hypnosis. I believe there are and were mind control efforts but they've been LARGELY ineffective. Sorry, not buying it.

  • With all due respect you must have never been hypnotized nor do uo know how to do it....I do and it is quite easy, and this is not a wild assertion....Listen to your last statement... I BELIEVE there ARE and were efforts but they were largely on effective...On what do you base that assertion that they were ineffective?

    Maybe you need to add a bit more throttle to your propeller to gain the right altitude and thus a better vantage point to your world =)

    Google hypnosis and start the journey.

  • Please, stop reading so much into simple discourse

    and that's largely INEFFECTIVE.

  • OK, nice we can debate this like civil human beings. I dont get your assertion then...yes I know the Govt does this shit but No I dont believe that they ever made anything real out of it. Please answer me this, if they did make any breakthroiughs during MK Ultra, do you really think the general public would have learned about them?

  • My assertion was that yes, I believe the government had experimented with various forms of mind control, but that they proved to be largely INEFFECTIVE. No, I don't believe in the 'manchurian candidate'. Of course no one believes our goverment has ever been transparent, but given the bumbling nature of politicians and government officials, I don't buy the idea such programs were ever more than failed experiments. Look what DID come out of it! LDS and the hippie culture of the 60's

  • SO MK Ultra spawned the church of LDS?? J/K. And BTW I will describe my experience to you for better understanding. I was Hypnotized on My graduation night from HS in our Gymnasium during our Grad Night celebration...as part of the entertainment there were magicians and casino tables and near the end of the night a Hypnotist showed up and did a two hour long show. I had always been skeptical of Hypnosis as I thought it somehow put people in a sleep like state while others controlled them...

  • (Cont from below) I volunteered when he asked for people who would like to be hypnotized. He started by putting 30+ people in rows of chairs. Then they dimmed the lights and he told us all to relax and began to repeat a mantra of commands for us to relax and let go. During the time he was saying this he was walking around the chairs eliminating people who he saw were not going under.

  • (Cont from Below)To cut to the chase..what transpired next truly amazed me. This guy who we had never met before that night took complete control of about 15 of us and made us do all kinds of wacky crap like talk in languages that did not exist, dance in front of the rest of the class, and he even got the shyest girl I knew in school to dance and sing like she was on American Idol.

  • (Cont From Below)

    Now I can surely speak for myself and say the entire experience I did not fake...but that girl to this day sticks out in my mind even more. If you knew how shy and introverted she was you would understand...she had not a care in the world dancing and singing in front of all her class mates when she was not a good dance or singer and barely talked to anyone normally.

  • (Cont From Below)

    So here is my point...please read from the bottom up first.

    When I was under it was in no way like I had thought it would be. Instead of being in a sleep like state I became both ultra aware and Ultra relaxed at the same time...And I can honestly remember thinking at one point that I felt so relaxed that somone could have attack me and I would not even fight back...I remember CLEARLY thinking that.

  • (Cont From Below)

    so from my experience I know that Hypnotherapy can quite easly and suprisingly quickly put someone in a trance and make them do anything...even something that might cause their peril...Look up Egypt air flight 880.

  • And who said anything about Mass hypnosis...I am talking about direct targeting Hypnosis aimed at a select few recruits.

  • No, I've never been hypnotized...

  • Dude, you really should try it. It is a very eye opening experience even if you find you are not easily brought under. ALmost anyone can be induced in the right environment...it is so easy it will baffle your noggin.

    Serioulsy at least google the videos...I can tell you from first hand experience that the people are not acting.

  • Sorry, I don't think I'll be doing that anytime soon, I've seen people supposedly under, but it all seems a bit far fetched, not that I could refute it to be sure.

  • The Clinton BJ was meant to come out...it was all part of the dog and pony show...

  • I guess 'wag the dog' was one of you favorite flicks...

    Sorry, not buying that either.

  • never saw it...seriously never did.

  • Fuck you broadjumper...you have no idea what I have sacrificed for this war and yet you are so quick to judge.I have every right to feel pissed and then some.

  • micmart3000: see you do have a potty mouth.

  • Fuck me? Fuck YOU. I really don't give a shit. You hear the music? That's the world's SMALLEST violin playing for ya! You think you're deserving of COMPASSION? Let me tell you something, when you start believing that YOUR brand of suffering is greater than anybody elses, then you're the one being quick to judge! Be pissed all you want, but that gives you no special right to be a flamming asshole...

  • Dickhead its not me I am concerned about but the lives of our brave soldiers. I have said it over and over again. I am not ashamed to stand up and condem this needless war for profit...because I dont think soldiers should have to die so someone else can make a few bucks.

    Yeah I am pissed of that so many have died.WHY ARE YOU NOT?? Are you gonna play that fucking voilin 4000 times for each dead soldier too?

  • Could you act more like a rabid dog if really you tried? I too am angry that we lost lives, I have 5 DEAD comrades in arms from this war. I went to EACH of their funeral and saw the anguish. I have written, called, and even gone directly to my represenative as part of a group in DC to voice our opinion. I belong to a VAIW (Veterans Against the Iraq War), but there are constructive ways to go about things, because no one in power listens to assholes who rant like babys. So FUCK YOU mic.