SA@TheDC - If Cain Wins the Tea Party Loses

[3martijns]

Recessions in 1921 and 1946 were Stopped by Lowering Taxes and Lowering Spending!!

FDR did the Opposite, which Prolonged and Deepened the Great Depression.

So obama is like FDR in that way = Very Badddd!!

[satarnag]

Thank God we no longer have to worry about this guy. A lot of people in the Tea Party liked him for his open character, however, I never liked him for his position in the Federal Reserve and his stance on TARP and his inability to understand economic and foreign policy. Also 9-9-9 was a scary proposition for both a Federal Income tax and a national sales tax.

[PoliticalWeekly]

@satarnag 9-9-9 is mathematically impossible.

[3martijns]

Those who say 9-9-9 does Not work do Not understand it!

Easy Explanation on Cain's website, for those who can Read and Comprehend!!

[3martijns]

See Cain's Bio and Resume: Rocket Scientist, President & CEO of Several Major Companies,

Turned Around Two Failing Corporations, Etc..............! 40 Years of Business Successes = Great Ability to Fix a Broken Economy!!

[MrGuvnah]

@3martijns

Except when it comes to economics the predictions he's made have been stunningly ignorant, as is demonstrated in this video.

[PoliticalWeekly]

@3martijns not really. Hoover was a businessman and used big gov solutions.Rexford Tugwell even said hoover was the inspiration.

[GrayGhost8]

Cain was part of Aquila which failed like Enron. How's that for business smarts. Godfather's never has recovered since Pillsbury and Cain bought the chain and he slowed the ship from sinking but it's not a great success story that he makes it out to be.

[gordyowens]

After The Tea Party puts out a debate poll without having Ron Paul in it... They have already lost in my opinion... The Tea Party is backing the NeoCons... Ron Paul supporters do not want to have anything to do with the Tea/NeoCon Party anymore... That's too bad since Ron Paul is the Godfather of the Original Tea Party...

[3martijns]

Cain rose to the Top of Every One of the Several Businesses he was in, and Turned Around Two of Them that had been on the Brink of Bankruptcy!

So to call him 'economically ignorant' is Very Stupid!

[Akatam0t0ma]

@3martijns:

And yet, he is STILL economically ignorant when it comes to understanding the root cause of America's economic problems. Just like you and any other run-of-the-mill bootlicker of the GOP establishment.

[3martijns]

Funny reply I got - maybe 'shotsky' prefers Trotsky, or Lenin or Stalin clones!

[shotsky94]

@MsWanderer1 Lool....Tea Party Poll shows Cain and Bachmann ahead of Paul,...retard

[3martijns]

I see you are a PaulBot, but Cain's Fans will Rarely go to RP.

They will go to almost Anybody else!

Here is Paul's idea: "Why don't we just offer Iran our friendship?"!! LOL!! HAHAHAHAHA



[shotsky94]

@3martijns I realize Paul is basically an idiot. But to support Cain instead is the height of stupidity imo

[Akatam0t0ma]

@3martijns:

I see you are another dupe of the establishment who thinks he's so radical by sucking the proverbial cock of the hyped establishment candidate of the hour.

Have fun with Obama's 2nd term. And make no mistake about it, any GOP candidate besides Ron Paul will be Obama's 2nd term, even if he wins. Just like Obama ended up being Bush's 3rd term. Ain't life's a bitch?

[3martijns]

@Akatam0t0ma I do Not understand how you can be a fan of RP, but also very anti-islamic.

Ron Paul recently said that we should Not put any sanctions on Iran, but just offer them our friendship!

Isolationism of RP, and Stopping Radical islam are Very Antithetical.

But anyhow your Nasty comments are same as Libs, so you are Very Conflicted.

Comments by both RP and his Fans are like Committing Suicide - he is Sinking in Polls.

But you can keep Wasting your time. I will Not. Good Bye.

[zeroeffects88]

@3martijns

At least fans of Ron Paul admire a guy who's actually done something. What the hell has Herman Cain ever done besides sing about pizza and wear funny hats? Admit it, you like the idea of Cain more than the actual man.

[3martijns]

TARP has been Mostly REPaid!

In 2005 Almost Nobody Out of Government knew about the housing bubble.

Time Rag Hates Cain, so do Not quote!

[N8Revolution]

thewag777 REALLY? A Rino?? *LAUGH*

I think Paul is the furthest thing from a Republican in name only if you study you Republican roots buddy ..

Principles should always come before party, are you blind? A bit on the sheepish side?

What if the leaders of your party decided to go Nazi? Would you support them to the death? Are you that blind? Off a cliff even?

Principles are what made this country great, not parties .. research your history, so you won't be doomed to repeat its mistakes.

[tgigunner]

I'm with MsWanderer on this ...

The System as a whole is flawed and both parties truly "suck" we are at a crossroads and must take back our Country and get back on track , Cain is a Tool just as all of them are ( except Ron Paul ) Vote da Bums out of office ... All of them !!

[nicodemous52]

The Cain scandal proves two things, one good and one bad.

1. The TEA Party is clearly not racist because Cain was their champion and they have really tried to run interference for him.

2. The TEA Party has indeed no become co-opted, which is proven by A) making Cain their champion when he has flip flopped on life and supported the bail outs (their #1 issue) B) also by their knee jerk reaction rather than waiting for facts and using discernment...



[MsWanderer1]

Just because a candidate claims to be a T-party candidate DOES NOT MAKE IT SO; politicians are liars and Cain is a politician! The only T-party candidate is RON PAUL; all others claiming that title are frauds!

[Timmy12688]

God I love your videos. I am so happy I came across you and subscribed after the first video I watched. Never been unhappy since! Keep it up man! Run for Congress or Governor in IL someday! Hahaha

[evergreenpotato]

I figured the Cain campaign's momentum would fizzle out eventually, just like the Bachmann campaign's and the Perry campagin's. Hopefully this harassment scandal will be the catalyst for it.

[N8Revolution]

Good commentary ..

With the COUNTERFEITER-CAIN campaign falling apart, RON PAUL is the ONLY true conservative who can stand against RINO ROMNEY and win back the White House for all of us who haven't forgotten what genuine conservatism looks like.

Paul is now looking to be in 2nd in key primary states, it's time to get serious people. Now is the time to take our country back!

Donate, tell everyone you know to vote, sound the trumpet! Restore the Republic!

RONPAUL2012 . COM

[thewag777]

@N8Revolution In all fairness, Ron Paul is a RINO, and that's a complement.  He cares more about principles than party, and that's why I'm supporting him. Go to my channel to see my Red for Ron video.

[thewag777]

I had thought the Tea Party was already Neo-conned...but I see you guys haven't given up on them yet. The 999 plan has it's merits, but if we keep doling out corporate welfare like Tarp, none of it will matter.

[ronpaulsupportr2012]

great video. herman cain is a neo conserative wolf in the sheep "tea party" clothing.

[transferpoint2012]

ronpaulsocialnetwork(DOT)com

[INFOWARSDOTCOM]

The meme should be, that if "Ron Paul doesn't win, then America LOSES"

It's a lose lose situation. You either vote for ANOTHER phony conservative, or you get four more years of the same abuse.

Also, this is Ron Paul's DESTINY. He is not running for power or prestige, or his health. He's running because he has been trying to warn of the disaster that is now upon us, and is the ONLY one qualified to fix it.

"DESTINY" and "ONLY" are words that should be used frequently.

It's time to be blunt.

[xXKelLiverXx]

Cain is worse than oBAMA

[transferpoint2012]

@xXKelLiverXx thats yet to be seen, but there is something very unsettling about herman cain. He's not a good man.

[Kirbynessness]

Jack has remained curiously quiet on the Occupy movement lately..

[mrtomsr]

Excellent post Mr. Hunter, as ususal

[thefakeyeti]

Anyone that supports Tax cuts, but supports more military spending, deserves to be publically flogged.

[thetimman00]

Cain did not ignore his Pole numbers.

[zoomee65]

Slam Dunk!!

[whoo689]

We waste countless billions on a War on Drugs that neither works NOR is even that necessary in the end. Yet few Tea Partiers are willing to take bold steps like cut the disastrous DEA. or the ONDCP, with its dumbass TV ads

Don't use a huge deficit caused by a faltering economy as an EXCUSE to cut our best programs and agencies. That's weak. Really weak. I mean, if the economy was doing great, and we still had fairly low deficits, like Bush's last $450 Billion one, no one would be cutting.

[whoo689]

We could save at least 10-20 billion by cutting foreign aid and spending that money here at home, INCLUDING for Israel, which can more than handle itself. GTFO of Libya, end the Predator drone nonsense (does killing random 'al qaeda members' via airstrikes in places like Yemen and Pakistan REALLY increase our security?), and so on. The cuts DON'T HAVE to be so drastic if we're innovative.

[whoo689]

Privatize NASA (except perhaps for critical shit like monitoring meteors and asteroids nearby) and stop pretending like ONLY THE FEDERAL GOV'T must or can do space research. Privatize the National Weather Service. I mean, honestly, why does the FEDERAL GOV'T have to collect all this weather info?? I'm sure that all these news stations and affiliates have more than enough private equipment and access to satellites and whathaveyou to do meteorology ON THEIR OWN.

[whoo689]

The cuts may not seem like much, but they can add up. It's a helluva lot better and a better start than Ron Paul's bullshit "Cut $1 Trillion from the safety net in the first year" nonsense, which would hurt so many middle- and working-class Americans in a time of need, a time when the safety net MATTERS MORE THAN EVER while people are trying to get back to work.

[whoo689]

I mean, theoretically speaking, if we COULD balance the budget for a while and pay for SS, Medicare, Medicaid and all those other programs with perhaps even a little surplus left over, would conservatives REALLY care so much?? Would it REALLY be that big a deal if, hypothetically speaking, we HAD the ability to make these programs solvent again? I think many right-wingers are letting the monetary deficit cloud their judgments about the RELEVANCY of these programs in general to the population.

[tridentmovies]

@whoo689

You made a lot of posts mixing facts with pure emotion-based OPINION about the so-called "necessity" of certain programs vis-a-vis the non-necessity of other programs. Anybody can have a subjective opinion about which program is "necessary" and which one isn't. You can have 300 million different opinions, but nothing changes the fact that all of it is paid by money taken by force (taxes). You think a certain program is necessary, YOU fucking pay for it, whether its NASA or healthcare.

[tridentmovies]

@tridentmovies

And so pro-state conservatives and liberals are hypocrites in equal degree. They propose looting all productive people to finance their own subjectively preferred programs as if their own subjective opinion denotes a "factual truth" more than another's subjective opinion, when it's all just opinion-mongering at other people's expense (through government coercion). If Ron Paul's 1 trillion cut is "bullshit", it's only because it should be more.

[joepeeler34]

@whoo689 "Relevancy?" Those programs are immoral. They inevitably suck in the middle-class and the wealthy.

There used to be a voluntary welfare society, then it was replaced with the force, fraud, and waste of the welfare state. Take health care: some of the poor depended on charity care dispensed by doctors, hospitals, churches. Medicare-Medicaid just TRANSFERRED taxes to middle-class health care professionals for care formerly provided at reduced cost or for free.

[whoo689]

A 'fiscal crisis' PRIMARILY caused by the recession, which, of course, as anyone has ever taken a fucking Econ. class knows, REDUCES TAX REVENUES in the end, is being used as an excuse to start cutting and gutting our most-cherished programs and national investments. Meanwhile, we still spend nearly a trillion on defense, are still in Afghanistan, STILL give plenty in corporate welfare to industries like Big Oil and so on.

[joepeeler34]

@whoo689 But what caused the recession? Why were housing prices so inflated? Where did all that funny money come from given that the savings rate was very low during the bubble period. Rates were artificially low because the FED pushed them down. The only way they can do that is to create credit money out of nothing.

There is no more real savings in the economy but the FED's policy sends false signals. The credit flows to certain areas and a bubble ensues.

[joepeeler34]

Ron Paul is opposed to giving money to any firms. Are you a hyprocrite? Do support subsidies, mandates, and public-private partnerships for agribusinesses and 'green" energy corporations? That's what I thought. It's still corporatism when you give sanction to it because it's for "progressive" ends. You should address your own contradictions.

While you at it, get your facts straight. Paul is opposed to your progressive-corporatist state.

[joepeeler34]

How much of economic history have you read? If you have read any, you know that burst credit bubbles of excessive credit creation (worst were always when central banks were present) were handled the same way: wage and other prices were allowed to fall, businesses failed, labor/capital were reallocated, and taxes and spending were cut.

In the Depression of 1920 (the first year was far worse than the one in '29) the above approach was followed. It was over in 18-months. Why? Please explain.

[ONLYRonPaul1]

@joepeeler34 thank you for that comment! That 1920-1921 depression is my favorite argument too. NO ONE seems to be able to see the relationship between the Fed interventions and the two depressions of 1920-21 and the 1930's. Darn Keynesians just cannot separate them from their golden economic calf

[joepeeler34]

We don't spend a trillion on defense. We spend a trillion on militarism. Paul is the only one proposing to eliminate all foreign bases, foreign-aid, and end all wars and foreign policy interventionism. Obama's military budgets are larger than Bush's. Did you notice that?

Even if you had no Defense budget at all, we still have a massive deficit. Cuts have to be made. We should start with militarism/foreign aid, corporate welfare ("greeen" subsidies, too!!), and the bureaucracies.

[whoo689]

It's also sad that the Tea Party is hyperbolizing this "fiscal crisis" to use as an excuse to CUT, GUT and FUCK so many necessary programs, esp. in an economic downturn. Unfortunately, it seems that any 'hope' of Tea Partiers, esp. in Congress, being SERIOUS about foreign policy reform and cutting wasteful defense spending in a serious way, was much overhyped. Is there any chance that this dumbass "super committee" will cut much defense spending? not really

[teddlem]

Great stuff!

[whoo689]

The Tea Party complained about giving taxpayer money to the big banks and the Fed, but they DID NOT complain about the ACTUAL banks taking that money and doing whatever the fuck they wanted with it or USING IT TO CONSOLIDATE AND CONCENTRATE the banking sector even further. WHERE WAS THE OUTRAGE ABOUT THE BONUSES AMONG TEA PARTY MEMBERS?!

Or the outrage for all the credit default swaps, subprime mortgage bullshit, etc. etc.? The defrauding of America and swindling of Americans by banks

[whoo689]

I'm sure at least a FEW of these Tea Partiers bought homes with great incomes, but when the shit hit the fan, thanks largely to very bad choices the banks and non-banking institutions made, they suddenly

These are irrefutable facts! Yes, the government played a minor role in expanding the crisis beyond what it probably would've been, but I find it hard to believe that this WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED without government intervention at all. I'm not so sure.

[whoo689]

Back to my other point, they suddenly lost their homes or faced foreclosure thanks to the decisions of bankers. Where's their outrage against THOSE SAME BANKERS whose bad decisions crashed the econ. and caused some of those Tea Partiers to probably lose their jobs and/or homes?? And in fact, the government, despite what many right-wingers think about the 'evils of regulation', DID either refuse to properly regulate (as in the case of subprime mortgages and CDSs) or deregulated badly.

[whoo689]

such as the removal of Glass-Steagal in the late '90s. BOTH government and big business are to blame. Let's not focus all our anger on one or the other. The Tea Party and Occupy Wall St. actually have a lot more in common than they think. If only they could see past labels and ideology and come together for real Americans.

[whoo689]

Look, I was no fan of TARP, although at the time (drastic times require drastic measures, let's face it), most people would say it was necessary to save our economy, even though HOW it was spent by the banks (unchecked) is another story. However, what dismays me is how the Tea Party ONLY blames government for all this mess and says nary a word about how WALL STREET fucked things up. NOT A WORD! I'm not expecting the Tea Party to be socialists or liberals but for god sake...

[russkeller]

Dude, we lost the Tea Party at the Palin Superbowl speech 3 months into it. After that the ONLY message was cut Government and Obama is a one term president. I got sick of being the lone voice out there trying to educate people about Glass/Steagall all I got was a zombie response saying "regulation baaaad... deregulation gooood...." and they wont look at what happened. and Occupy Wall Street is no better from what I've experienced.. plenty of You tube vids look promising though.

[TheDerekOber]

Where are your sources dear sir?

[mauibrad]

SPOT ON!

[SusieQ962]

I was worried that the Tea Party Movement, which was indeed intially of Libertarian origin, would be co-opted by the GOP. And indeed, it has been...and a number of ppl have run unders its 'banner' when not committed to its principles.

[EndTheFedRes]

Help me promote Ron Paul's 0-0-0 plan.

[BeantownJim]

Why is everyone worried about cain? Because the neocon's back him? Because money was instilled? People forget why were fighting this tyranny! I suggest people get grounded on the truth of why there is a tea party! Stay with the principles!

[evergreenpotato]

Vote for Cain if you want another incompetent administration in DC.

[SusieQ962]

@evergreenpotato Unfortunately, I don't see this adm as 'incompetent'. Numerous adms and congressional delegations paved the way for this prez and his Globalist Bd of Directors, and thus far, things are going swimmingly well for them...

[evergreenpotato]

@SusieQ962 Swimmingly well for them, yes, but not for the American people. Where our interests are concerned, the present administration has been glaringly inept.

[SusieQ962]

@evergreenpotato I understand your point.... It's just that I see the Agenda as being to end our Republic...take our Sovereignty. Glaringly evil? I might agree with that, if I'm making any sense at all. Tired. To the sheets calling my name...

[mike1988123]

Jack, I wish the lamestream 'conseratives' would listen to you instead.

[CrankMyCat]

Will somebody PLEASE show this to Andrew Wilcow?

[Livefreerevolution2]

Ron Paul supporters founded the Tea Party in 2007...This is well know.

[watertonrivers]

@sounthernavenger Sir, you continually knock it out of the park, when the bases are loaded...GREAT JOB!!

[cosmosgato]

Dude the Tea Party was a construct of the Koch brothers.

Without their funding, there's nothing there.

The thing was born dead.

[Terje1337]

@cosmosgato It was taken over by them. When it was a mosty grass roots movements by libertarians, there wasnt many high ranking people supporting them

[tonyteb]

@Terje1337 yep

[cosmosgato]

@Terje1337 Yup! It was once real but when Fox News and the Kochs came by goodbye.

When you take money you are owned. Whether it be from a government, big business or a wealthy donor. They own you! For most people freedom was not is nor ever will be an option. Just who do you want to be owned by or get rich? Want to be free? GET RICH!

[SusieQ962]

@cosmosgato And I'm thinking just the reverse may be true...want to be RICH? Get FREE! (And would be nice to be FREE and rich!) A telling goal for any candidate - in my book of GOALS - is to immediately repeal the UNPatriotic Act...which is the furthest distance from Patriotism that I can imagine and is an abhorrent, UNConstitutional LAW which strips us of our Freedoms and Liberty in exchange for the GOVT's pledge to "protect us". And I ask BUT WHO WILL PROTECT US FROM OUR GOVERNMENT?!

[elricmlbone]

Cain is an outsider, what a laugh. He was a goddamn lobbyist in DC when he was at the restaurant association and pushed it up to the top 20 lobby groups, He was on the KC Fed board and supports the FED and TARP. He is backed by the Koch brothers " His brothers from a different mother". He is a neocon and doesn't even know the meaning of term neocon. He can't answer foreign policy questions any of us could. He wins the nomination and I'm expatriating.

[watertonrivers]

@elricmlbone I will be expatriating too, my friend, if that bastard is elected...Thailand sounds nice, and it's very cheap too!!

[mauibrad]

@elricmlbone DAMN RIGHT!

[Mattboy2388]

@elricmlbone not to mention Cain has focus groups write responses to questions on monetary policy..hehas none of his own policy perspectives

[mrtomsr]

@elricmlbone

So I understand clearly, the mention of the "Koch brothers" is code for "bad" right? Just like the conservatives mention of George Soros is also code for bad right? Anything that either the Koch brothers (what are their names, BTW?) or Soros touch is bad and I should do everything I can to stay away from those things and let my economically superiors play their games, of which I can comment with the above code words. Do I have that right?

[elricmlbone]

@mrtomsr I don't use the Koch brothers (Charles and David of privately owned Koch Industries) as an ad hominem attack on someone. They are controlling billionaires who have hijacked the Tea Party(and have partially succeeded) and attempted to hijack the libertarian movement in this country to further their own agenda. The same could be said of Soros on the progressive side. The Koch's poison infiltrate many ideas I hold dear. so I guess you are right they represent "bad".

[mrtomsr]

@elricmlbone I think we have a lot in common. I only see the media representation of the Tea Party that has been hijacked. Yes, we agree that money spent for power is a corrupting influence and their attempt to poison is somewhat pervasive, but true to myself is more important to me than true to a "party". We disagree on hijacking of the libertarian movement. That is strong and getting stronger. Thank you for not employing argumentum ad hominem attacks, I really can't stand that as you can tell.

[zeroeffects88]

I've never heard of Godfather's pizza in my life. But seriously Cain is a moron. Just because he's wealthy doesn't make him smart, and he obviously knows jack shit about the economy.

[LYinKansas]

There's alot riding on Cain. I actually had to Wiki him because I just had no idea what kind of man he was. He just sort of just materialized from nowhere like Scotty just beamed him down from the Enterprise. I like Cain too, feel like he's got an ace up his sleeve, but will do anything to make president. The sex allegations aren't a surprise either for being the only black republican candidate that is TV worthy.

[watertonrivers]

@LYinKansas He's(Cain) similar to Obama, in that, he's coming out of no where. That should give you pause, listen to the southernavenger, he knows what true conservatism is!! Cain is just another slick talking Neo-Conservative!!

[SusieQ962]

@LYinKansas Everything I ever needed to know in life I learned in Kindergarten, and everything I needed to know about Herman Cain that he was Chair of the Kansas City Federal Reserve.

[nellyyllen1]

cain is shit 4 the usa...

[tintlio]

BTW Jack, best video yet. Keep it up buddy.

[mrhulot101]

My biggest issue and concern is endless unlimited immigration, and as a result bachman has shown the best actions on immigration, but if she drops out, I am voting for Paul. Ron paul sucks on immigration, I don't care what you cheap labor, phony free trade libertaians have to say about it, but paul is right on almost everything else. However, I don't believe small government is the answer either, citizens should have the size of government they are willing to pay for with their own money.

[tintlio]

what sux is he is their guy, the elite will give him the nod. The same people who run the FED, run the media, and run the polls.... the elite want the 999 plan, the FED has been calling for the 999 plan for years, and Americans love a dumbass chant even if they don't know what 999 means. End the FED??? sounds great to us but for the sheep it isn't cool enough.

[webfulcrum]

Even the cosmetically 'conservative' TEA party has embraced big government "as long as one of our guys is in there."

More endless war.

More [wisely administered] social spending.

Continued existence of a banking cartel.

IT'S THE SPENDING... STUPID!

But of course, no one will face that reality, and admit that without their accomplices in government, the banks would not have the opportunity to rob the people who so foolishly trust them.

END THEM ALL.

[mrdarcyme]

I don't agree with much of what Ron Paul says, but the more I hear the other Republican candidates, the better he looks in comparison.

[RonDukeSilverSwanson]

Wow, excellent as always. The Cain ship is sinking, just a matter of time now.

On a side note I had lunch with you at the Values Voters summit (I was the Iraq vet, my friend was the Afghanistan vet). Real genuine down-to-earth guy, it was a pleasure meeting you. Keep up the good fight!

[Hankdrive]

Godfather's pizza sucks.

[flochucky]

He's done.