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  • This town and city has always been a Muslim city. The communist Chinese should just leave the people of that city alone and fuck off back to Beijing. West "Chinese" people would be better in a country along with Kazakhstan or the countries to its West.

  • China is a multiethnic country. Many Uyghur leave and work in Shanghai, so how can you deny the right of Han-Chinese to work in areas, where racist Uyghur live?

    Millions of you muslims go and work in Europe, but when somebody wants to work, where muslims live, you say, your culture is under attack? Do you exepect us, to respect this hypocracy?

  • @ChineseAtheist

    There is a which differeence between the two, and its painful that you can't see the difference. Han-Chinese can work in this ancient Muslim town and city (that used to belong to non-Chinese people, but other Central Asians for thousands of years). But they shouldn't rule the people there with their rules, especially when they are not from that land and they never have been.

    Muslims work in Europe, but they don't call Europe "Saudi Arabia" or another Muslim name.

  • Until 13th century Uyghur people were Christian, Nestorian. How can there be an ancient muslim town? Religions are so silly, always want to rule the world and create ethnic tensions. In 18th century Manchu people conquered it. Minorities have many privileges, they don't have one-child policy, so they grow very fast, while Han Chinese decrease. There also Uyghur party members, so how can you say that Han Chinese rule over Uyghur? These racist islamists attack also tibetans, and poor workers

  • @ChineseAtheist Firstly, 13th century until now is quite "ancient". Seconldy, so what if the Uyghur people were Christian, from the 1200s they became Muslim. But the city has always been one of Uyghur people. If today, the Uyghurs were Christian, then Urumqi should still belong to them, not to the communists from East China.

    Also, go look at the Uyghur genetic lineage. (google it). They are of Turkic origin and the people are more closely linked with Central Asians and Afghanis than Chinese.

  • we should fight against  with people wo didn't love peace

  • islam is a problem in the world

  • Uighur people are OK. Eastturkistan is terrorist, though!

  • *yawn*

  • ALLAHU BUTTFUCK!!!

  • Show your reaction to Chinese government and avoid products with these tags;

    "Made in P.R.C" and " Made in China"

  • yeah, great... give the Uighers more shit to riot over when their economy is down the shithole.

  • so what is your suggestion?

    To solve this, should we all type `allahu buttfuck" in comment box just like you do ? LOL

  • why not? We both know Allah was made up by Mohammad the liar!

    ALLAHU BUTTFUCK!

  • The difference between you and me is;

    I have respect for people who beleive in God or Gods. I never do propaganda about deism.

    You don't have respect for other people and their religions.

  • well melnorm, for you to insult Mohammad as a liar by leaving is not exactly respectful according to Islam..just sayin'

  • melnorm, why the hell should I respect a fake ass barbaric "religion" with a pedophile robber thug for a prophet?

  • Hey melnorm: must feel great not having to bend over 5 times for fake ass Allah anymore.

  • These haters posting comments here are all shallow people. If you dig into them a little, you see what they really are.

  • melnorm: Haters? You've insulted Mohammad as a liar by leaving Islam. You are considered a hater and a traitor of Islam.

  • ....and your point is Chewbacca?

    nevermind... lol

    May I remind you your quote;

    "Allahu buttfuck!!!"

    I'm afraid I have to ask you to msg me your Credit Card info to verify that you are a mature! Or else from now on I have to treat you as a child lol.

  • Star Wars rules. Chewbacca can kick your Hutt ugly ass all the way back to tatooine!

  • Fuck china

  • GOD does not teach people to kill....unless there are no GOD at all...so please stop killing people in the name of GOD. if there are GOD... GOD will be the first to punish the person who kill other

  • I second this.

  • Athiest believe that if you kill someone on this planet and do not get caught by the law. They believe that they will get away with it 'forever'!

    A person that has faith in God would never do such thing because he has god to fear!

    Woo do the athiest have to fear?

    MY MAIN POINT IS - Stop blaming 'religion' for all the wars because it makes much more sense to blame 'atheism' for all the wars!

  • this is the chinese version of 7th Jul London tube attact, and 911 new york terrorist attact.

  • Looks like politicaly biased media has done it's job well. People believe in propaganda like Germans believed in Hitler.

    Do you really think this fight for petrol, economical benefits, lands etc. will end even all muslims suddenly vanished from Earth or all people became athesists?

  • i agree wif u mate, those hatred between countries and people are mainly the result of the biased meida, im all for that, coz i was born nd raised in the 'so-called communist china' nd now working in the Uk, i could tell each sides of the media scews people's minds. its all abt political dominance and interests. now i ended up only readin businesses nd culture sections

  • There is slaughter only in the place where the Chinese is.

    its Tibet, Uygur, Beijing and Nanjing.

  • China will never become Muslim. Unlike her European counterpart she is too ambitious and hungry to settle for Islam.

    Only a Catholic state and the Catholic faith will resist Islam for you. The time for the Catholic state is fast approaching again. Get ready!!

  • China Must Act Like A Dragon, No Pussy. Must Aggressively Dominant. Don't behave like a Buddhist. It is not good for politics context or China will finish in future.. The enemies is out there to sabotage the country. Using the minorities race. They use the sentimental of the minorities . The minorities are very stupid race that easy used by others.

    Uyghur are also part of chinese. They are our friends. but these separatists are our enemy. They are terrorists.. Be careful of enemies agenda

  • Absolute evil wrong is killing civillians~

  • Bill Gates would patch this problem before the virus spreads

  • Bill Gates would search and destroy! lol

  • It's Kasperskys job. Bill is not good at antivirus jobs.

  • Since Bill was used as a metaphor for god, then should I get this as a harbinger of the arrival of a new religion?

  • Do you even know the God of Islam? What are the five pillars of Islam?

  • :))

    Şehadet, Namaz, Zekat, Oruç and Hac.

    It's funny to have a quiz on Youtube.

    Will you stop your insults if I pass?

    Bring it on! =)

  • So you a deist , huh? LMFAO!

  • Since you keep changing the topic when you hit the wall and never admit that you were wrong about your statements, it's a waste of time for me to reply your messages.

    It's obvious that you have no proof and no answers for my questions even I ask them zillion times. So I suggest you take our anti-islamic propaganda and leave in peace (if you really believe in peace that is)

  • So tell me, why did you leave Islam?

  • You are getting completely drifted. It's impossible to discuss anything with you.

    You keep getting offtopic, asking new questions about my personal choices and keep ignoring that you don't have came up with proofs for your previos statements.

    You are doing a Chewbacca Defence.

    I suggest you find a Han Solo for yourself because I don't have time for that.

  • Google for the definition of "Deism" and you'll find it there. Sorry to ruin your expectations but it's not an issue about just Islam.

    I advice that you should use Google more often. At least find the online Kur'an and read it before having an opinion about it.

  • melnorm wrote: I was a Muslim before I became a deist.

    You WERE a Muslim. You are an apostate of Islam. Apostasy is punishable by death in many devout Muslim countries. So don' t go around admitting it.

  • Well thanks for the advice but I already know about those countries governed by radical dictators. It's not Islam that kills, it's the moron radicals who are uncapable of reading and understanding a book.

    They are the reason why people like you think Islam is terror.

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  • we should fight against with people wo didn't love peace

  • melnorm wrote: They are the reason why people like you think Islam is terror.

    Actually, the hate, intolerance, terror, killing, and subjugation of those who don't believe in Islam are taught by the Quran and Mohammad sayings and conducts. The devout Muslims implement their law based on such teachings.

    As for apostasy is punishable by death:

    ". . .for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " (Sahih Bukhari 4:52:260).

  • (Cont'd)

    The following is just one of many verses from the Quran regarding to the deadly punishment for leaving Islam:

    Qur'an (4:89) - "They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them"

  • @AllahSiFutLo . . .for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' " (Sahih Bukhari 4:52:260).

    Goes to show how merciful Islam is.....cult of death.

  • 昨日,牠們攻擊美國,印度,俄羅斯,以色列,泰國,菲律賓,基督­教徒,印度教徒,佛教人, 猶太人。今日,牠們攻擊漢人。

    那裡有穆斯林, 那裡就有恐怖活動。看看:

    thereligionofpeace. com

    伊斯蘭教攻擊一個中國人,伊斯蘭教就攻擊所有中國人。

    你敢打中國,我們將消滅你。

  • Is it really about religion ? I dont think so. I dont need to look the mouth of PRC for information about riots. Everything is clear. If you push a cat toward a wall and torture it even that small cat will attack you. So who says uygurs deserve to be decoys for nuclear  test ? Wake up people. Also not all muslims represent Islam. Criticize people not the religion itself.

  • There's no separation of mosque and state in Islam, so of course it has to do with "religion".

    "not all muslims represent Islam"

    That's why they have been killing each other ever since Mohammad died.

  • There is no seperation ? I'm not sure we talk about the same religion.

  • I don't know what you've been drinking but Islam is a system of religious beliefs and an all-encompassing way of life. Islam recognizes no distinctions between mosque and state.

  • You have interesting interpretations.

    How did you conclude to that?

  • Again, read the Quran first.

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  • Allahsifutlo, I think you ignore other religions and focus on Islam when its talking about killing eachother.

    You sound like Fox News to me. :)

    What do you think about Jews torturing and killing Jesus?

    Have you heard a device called Iron Maiden? It's a torture device used by Christs to kill non-Christs.

    There are tons of torture devices invented in Europe just to punish and kill people.

    It's not a war between religions. It's shown that way in media just for political benefits.

  • AGAIN, DID YOU READ THE QURAN?  Don't tell me what you think and bringing up other religions when you never research on Islam. You sound like just another DUMBFUCK to me! XD XD XD

  • Yes I read it. We have been talking about it since the begining of the conversation and you ask me this now?! Well back topic. It might be a habit of yours to talk about issues you've never researched before but it is not like that for me.

    You still can prove your claims about Turkey going into islamic st. and still no proof of your claims about Islam being the only "religion" that advocates killing non-Muslims. JUST Give me the Ayet and Sure numbers and let's see your interpretation.

  • I've been asking you many times and now of the sudden you've read it, lol. You are just another taqiyya (lying) prick!

  • Dude I was a Muslim before I became a deist. You are barking at the wrong tree.

    Admit it, your anti islamic propaganda won't work here since there are people who actually knows what Islam and Allah is.

  • So you are an ex muslim.

  • No it's called "Flawless Victory"

    :)))

  • So you don't believe there is no god but Allah and you don' t believe Muhammad is the last messenger of Allah, LMFAO!

  • At least we agree Islam is false.

    I know you have to run now, melnorm, ROTFL!!! XD XD XD XD

  • melnorm: Apostasy is punishable by death in Islam:

    Sahih Bukhari

    V4 B 52 N 260:

    Narrated Ikrima:

    Ali burnt some people and this news reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

    They'll kill you but at least not by burning, that's Allah's specialty.

  • That is a Hadis. I'm not surprised that you don't know the difference between a Hadis and Sure/Ayet.

  • Where did I say that was an Sure/Ayet? I posted an authentic Bukhari hadith majority of Musims have been relying on for centuries to follow and model after Mohammad. Bukhari's hadith is one of the major sources use to base Islamic law(Sharia) on. Apostasy is punishable by death in many devout Muslim countries basing on Mohammad's teachings.

  • No it's only you who agrees with your own.

    Here is a quote from you :

    -----

    AllahSiFutLo Says at innwa com:

    May 5, 2009 - Allahu buttfuck!!!

    ----

    I've tried to have a conversation with you but looks like you have wasted my valuable time. I won't be replying to your further emails. Go play elsewere kid.

  • You left Islam, so why are you still defending the fake ass Allah?

  • You dig up from somewhere where I posted "Allahu buttfuck", to prove "only you who agrees with your own" ??

    LMFAO!! How moronic you are!

  • melnorm: EPIC FAIL!

    ROTFLMAO XD XD XD XD

  • Dude you are getting too hysterical about this. I have already proven that you are a common hater with shallow ideas but you still donit admit it. You can keep bluffing and post "ROTFL XD" messages as many as you like. I'm sorry for you dude that you can't take it.

  • melnorm wrote: I was a Muslim before I became a deist.

    You know Mohammad was a fucking liar not a prophet! LMAO!!

  • melnorm: "you are getting too hysterical "

    You are a riot. LOL!

  • They are no Christians. Usa is anti God- it breaks all the 10 commandment. True Christans are good people like Muslims!

    Usa deserve to be called 'devil worshipper'

  • Your posts are a bunch of lies. You have been brainwashed.

  • Let's look at the numbers. In last ten years Christians killed more then 3 million muslims, 1,4 million in Irak alone. Muslims killed 8 000 (8 thousand) christians. Which religion is converting human being to a MURDERER?

  • well I think it's just politics, not about religions.

    You should calculate the casualties from the begining of the known history, if you want to find the religion that turns people into enemies of each other.

  • It's funny how usa try and use Obama to make a recovery with muslim world while they try and turn the muslims against China- can you now see the bigger picture?

  • REMEMBER MY CHINESE AND MUSLIM BROTHERS - stay united!

    Usa are pissed of that China is dominating in Olympics, Money etc!

    Usa are desperately trying to destabilise China. Why else do you think that the usa media contines to say this fight is China vs Muslims?

    We all know that China support Iran against Usa. Also China wouldn't help usa to invade any muslim countries.

  • I agree with that.

  • when muslism trigger suicide bomb in Israel, they say it is because their land is occupied.....

    when muslism riot at suburban Paris, they say it is because they are not treated fairly by main stream french society......

    when muslism inflict Sep 11 they say it is because US has wrong middle east policy....

    when muslism slaughter innocennt Han Chinese, they say they are fighting against communism for their freedom....

    why muslism always have reasons to kill innocent people?

  • it's like blaming criminal teens who has sick parents.

  • mother fucker cinese,yellow ass,monkeys,fuckall of them. kill all cinese.

  • yea, and you guys are terrorists, stop attacking America!

  • Everytime there is unrest and violence somewhere in the world Muslims are involved. So much for so-called religion of "peace" what a lie that is. Islam has proven over and over they are just the opposite of peace. Can't hide that fact anymore, the whole world knows it.

  • Everytime there is a `raping` somewhere in the world, `women` are involved. So if we think like the way you do, we should conclude that women are the cause of all raping crimes.

  • Muslims the world over must stand against Nazi Racist China. China = Israel Xinjiang Muslim Uyghurs = Palestinians. The whole Muslim world stands against China. Support fellow Muslims!

  • Fine, China=Israle, but as you know the u.s always supports Isreal, you need to defeat the u.s

  • Free Uyghur!

    Free Tibet!

    free inner mongolia!

  • my commentaries are being ERASED!

    even here you still censoring us?!

    F**K YOU!

  • Tivemos Guerras Civis at aprendermos o real signo da palavra LIBERDAD !

    Que chineses uigures ensinem ao povo chinês quã bom é ser livre a decidir sem uam ditatuda comunista no encalço!

    We had Civil Wars untill we learn the real meanning of the word FREEDOM!

    May the Chinese Uigurs teach to the chinese people how good is being free to decide WITHOUT a communist dictatorship fighting us!

    Guardas chineses em youtube : só pó..

    Chinese Guards at youtube : just dust..

  • Governo decide quas tudo em China.

    Morte à ditadura comunista!

    Que a Guerra nos livre de tal Mal!

    The Government decides almost everything in China

    Death to the Communist Dictatorship!

    May War free us from such Evil!

  • urghurs=== bin laden

  • ethic cleansin of islam at its best :)

  • Fuck islam but fuck christianity twice more, particularly that so-called virgin whore's rotten bones and believers of her bastard son's stupid religion..

  • Last year , 2 Uyghurs killed 20 soliders in

    china .

    Uyghur === BIN LADEN

  • Uyghur = Freedom

    Chinese = Subhuman

  • Uygur = Chinese,

    and the Chinses= your dad

  • THE China government Treatment Uyghur better than Han people.

    EVERY HAN PEOPLE 's FAMILY HAVE ONLY ONE KID . BUT UYGHUR CAN HAVE 2.3.4.5.6...kids

    Urghurs stole money , burn  bus, cars .

    KILL HAN PEOPLE.

    Last Year , 2 Urghurs killed 20 HAN solider .

    Urghurs = Bin Laden

  • Forget the humanity, rights, ethics, etc... If you are weak, you are dead. It's not related to religion. If your economy is strong, you are the most "liberal", "democratic" and "peaceful" nation. If you are not, no one will care and your race, religion, way of living etc will be the "worst"

    Weak always get killed, like muslims in Gaza, or Sioux in America or Jews in Germany. It's a wild world crowded with greedy humans.

  • melnorm, there's no separation of mosques and state in Islam, so of course it's related to religion for Muslims. Do some research on Islam before opining on such topic.

  • I guess you did not heard of the republic of Turkey. It's a democracy with almost %99 muslim population.

    What you do wrong is blaming it to the religions. It's not about religions, it's politics. What you actually do is just anti-islamic propaganda.

  • Ataturk was the reason for Turkey being secular not Islam.

  • It's not an Islamic state because they don't need an islamic state to live their life. They can live their muslim-lives anyway. " forced Islamic state" is a political choice, an interpretion, which is IMO wrong. You shouldn't blame whole Islam just because some people came up with the idea and used it for politics.

    It's like wearing a suit at beach. You don't need it to look cool while swimming.

  • Ataturk had the backing of the military. He took power from the mosque to separate politics from Islam and restricted the practice of Islam. It was due to this great man's determination that Turkey have a chance at democracy, unfortunately, they are going backward to Islam rule.

  • Back to Islam rule? Haha :|) You have interesting ideas and information sources.

    Unfortunately, I think it's not plausible.

    It harder than having a habitat on Mars.

  • What do you know about Islam ? Did you research on Islam? Did you read the Quran? Do you know what ahadith are?

  • Muslims always behave like this , its their culture. They will never feel satisfied.

  • This was not a matter of religion. This was not an act of jihad or Islamic fundamentalism. It is about preservation of culture and right to self-determination.

  • Their self-determination is your demise if you don't believe in the same thing they do.

  • Uyghurs don't want the "demise" of anyone. They simply want to set their own rules for how they are governed.

  • Do you think using violence is a wise way to preserve and why Muslims always involve in this kind of violence?

  • They model after their terrorist caravan robbing thug prophet Mohammad.

  • No. But that's what happens when you have a country that restricts freedom of speech and oppresses political dissidents. Violence is the desperate last resort, because that's the only option you give them.

  • It really doesn't take much to piss off Muslims you know. Even cartoon drawings of their so called "prophet" Mohammad would make them go on a bloody violent killing riot.

  • This Uyghur issue is not about Islam.

  • How do you know they dont have freedom, from TV or you live there? Maybe they have proper freedom as every people do and even more.

  • How do I know? Because those supporting greater Uyghur rights are labeled "separatists" and thrown in jail. In the US, we call these people civil rights activists. In China, you call them "political dissidents".

    It doesn't take a genius to realize that no one is free to voice their opinion if it runs contrary to what the central government deems "acceptable". The only filter to free speech ought to be hate speech, Everything else should be fair game.

  • sorry, IN CHINA we call them terrorist just like you call Taliban in the US.

  • Not everyone in America approves of the term "terrorist".

  • A local Chinese worker who has friends and relatives in the region said the real cause of the continuing violence was the authorities failure to punish perpetrators of a previous attack in which several Uighurs were killed. The Chinese state terror machinery is trying to make life very difficult for native Uighurs and trying to push them out of their lands where they have become a minority due to Han transmigration and social injustice that came with it!

  • han chinese always lie.

    far from coz they're never be ashame of lying, they're proud of lying.

    and they don't know the gov doesn't tell the truth to them.

    so they don't know they're lying,and don't want to know the truth.

    look into the world,there are many evidence that chinese gov tells no truth,before writimg,you must know the truth.

  • do you know the truth, where did you get the truth, what makes you think the truth you get is believable?

  • the chinese language makes me want to vomit.

  • you as well

  • free east turkestan!

    power to you guys.. stay strong.. we Tibetans are with you, in our prayers..

  • violent around the world-get ready to rummbleee!!!

  • This is East Turkistan this is Uighurs Land!!!! This is their own land not chinese. Chinese are occupants. I am surprised that US is so calm on this.

    Uighurs please be strong! Please stand up to this chinese madness.

    Be like Mongolians who are only 2 millions yet managed to keep chinese out of their country and you are 10 times more than that and if you be stronger chinese won't be able to oppress you as they are doing now because they are themselves cowards. Be strong!!!!

  • This is East Turkistan this is Uighurs Land!!!! This is their own land not chinese. Chinese are occupants. I am surprised that US is so calm on this.

    Uighurs please be strong! Please stand up to this chinese madness.

    Be like Mongolians who are only 2 millions yet managed to keep chinese out of their country and you are 10 times more than that and if you be stronger chinese won't be able to oppress you as they are doing now because they are themselves cowards. Be strong!!!!

  • 冇腦 低b 的人先可以給人煽動~~

  • We treasure the peace that we have at moment. What righteousness can you really bring out of these criminal act? nothing!!! apart from hate rage. I am so sad that there are always people out there wanting to see WAR . They are really disturbed. This lead me to think that there must be somthing wrong with this religion Muslim. They have done all sorts of extrem act around the globe and their leader need to think fast with some wisdom that what they are doing to this world!!!!

  • You think US macro economy more successful or China economy ? You see what happen for US citizens. So which model system is better? there is no 100 % perfect system to governs the country. you stupid moron killer race. By the way, I m not from China.

  • Uyghur peoples attack Han Chinese...becareful of US-Uyghur agenda ...China should fight back with all mean & channel

  • china is going to explode like former russia. Tibetans want their own state, Uighurs want their own and Mongol want their own as well. These people are really hate communist government and extreme han thugs. hans are new era colonists and there is no room for colonist in the world any more. We argue every body to help to free these occupied nations from Red china. huwa.

  • Tibetan,Uyghurs and Mongol never wanted to seperate from China,apart from the extremist.Even the Dalai Lama admited Tibet would never survivie without China's support.For people who is filled with jealousy and hatred cannot change the reality that 56 ethnic groups in China belong to one big family and they enjoy living together.

  • if they were happily living together, these so called 'riots' wouldn't have happened in the first place. wake up..

  • Muslims are never happy living together with non-Muslims unless they dominate over them. So stop your fucking lousy taqiyya (lying) tactics.

  • Yes they want to dominate others, which is very normal. It's the same way for all other religions.

  • Islam is the only "religion" that advocates killing non-Muslims and apostates for the cause of their so called Allah they worship as God.

  • I think that is misinformation.

    I'm a deist but I know that Muslims are not instructed to kill non-muslims for no reason. It's all about self defence.

    What it really say is `defend yourself if you get attacked by non-muslims'..

    It clearly orders that you should not to be the one who starts the fight.

  • melnorm, not believing in Islam is reason to kill you in Islam. They can't even leave Islam as apostasy is punishable by death. You are clueless.

  • You call me clueless but you have no idea where I am now.

    Well, you are not good at acting like you know something. At least, I'm not convinced.

  • Well AllahSiFulto, why don't you just say "I hate Muslims and Islam. I want them dead!".

    You don't need to come up with funny reasons to cover it. :)

    At least you won't be posting false information as if they were facts. ;/

  • melnorm wrote: "why don't you just say 'I hate Muslims and Islam. I want them dead!'.

    I don't hate Muslims. The are the victims of this brainwashing cult. Any decent human being who knows Islam would hate Islam and want it eradicated.

    I can back up everything I posted on Islam with Islam's own reliable sources.

  • "I don't hate Muslims"

    I assume you meant "You don't hate SOME Muslims." ;)

    "Muslims are never happy living together with non-Muslims"

    again, I assume you are not refering to all, right?

  • melnorm: I don't hate Muslims. Like I explained, they are victims of the brainwashing Islam. Which part you don't understand?

    "I assume you are not refering to all"

    Muslims who are truly happy living with non-Muslims and respect others who don't believe in Islam, do so inspite of Islam not because of it; they would be accused of apostasy by other Muslims if they try to change Islam.

  • I am amazed with your capabilities of making demographics by yourself. I Think you have an ability to measure the happiness of people and their source of happines.. Wow , you must have a gift from god.

    sorry, I can't agree with your statements. No offense dude but it sounds nonsense to me.

  • Melnorm: Stop talking nonsense. Go do some research on Islam, so you won't be so ignorant.

  • Well, with your last claim about me being ignorant, I hope you have completed your list of statements.

    I'd prefer you enlighten us about things like where do you get your imaginary demographics and how you measure the happines of masses or how do you know Turkey is going to be an Islamic state...

    Looks like you have chosen to declare me ignorant and run away ;) I don't think that will convince neither me nor others.

  • melnorm: you don't always reply right away, so why do you think I ran away?

    I made my statements. Did you read the Quran? If you did then we can discuss it and you can point out where I'm wrong.

    " how you measure the happines of masses"

    If you know Islam, then you'd know that Islam dictates every aspect of life for Muslims to follow. Muslims can be happy living with non Muslims and respect them but won't make Allah happy to contradict him and there are horrific consequences.

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  • (cont'd)

    As for Turkey, The pro-Islamic AK party have won the 2007 parlimentary vote of 46.6% of the popular vote, the largest majority any party has won since the late 60s. Support for the secular party of Turkeys founder Ataturk has shrunk. Also, the first former-islamist was elected as President in 2007. Looks like secular Turkey is a thing of the past.

    more...

  • (cont'd)

    melnorm wrote: it harder than having a habitat on Mars"

    One of the reason Turkey is still secular is because the practice of Islam is restricted and monitored like in China. If Turkey with a pro-islamic government backing that eventually allows Muslims to freely practice Islam, it can easily be under Islamic rule.

    "I don't think that will convince neither me nor others."

    Apparently you prefer to be ignorant.

  • I'm glad you have decided to post information after I have asked 2 times to backup your statement. Unfortunately, these information do not justify your claim; "Turkey have a chance at democracy, unfortunately, they are going backward to Islam rule"

  • You can't just blame religion. No religion tells you to go around killing people. It is religion that tell you that 'humans' are important and special.

    It is religion that warn you not to kill a 'person' or you will go to hell!

    Religion also you tell you that 'Human' are more superior than the other lives on the planet!

    You could argue that 'Athieism' causes the violence around the world!

  • MalcolmX, you don't know Islam like melnorm. Both you FAIL!

  • You don't know Islam as you are ignorant on the topic, so don't tell me "these information do not justify your claim", you condescending prick!

  • It's you who has claims about Islam without any proof AND it's you again asking me if I know islam or not.

    FYI, actually you can't "know" Islam. Even Hz. Muhammed never claimed such thing. And it's not such a binary thing like marking people like 1 and 0,muslim -non-muslim. Kur'an is easy to reach. You can read it online. If you need to know something you just look at the proper Ayet. Therefore saying "You don't know Islam " is a "funny" statement. And I'll be happy if you stop insulting.

  • You jump in on the topic without knowing it and I have to school you on this? I already told you many times to research it first then we can discuss it.

    "actually you can't "know" Islam. Even Hz. Muhammed never claimed such thing."

    Look at you, you make such stupid statement. How do you know if you never read the Quran? Do you know what sunna is?

  • You should also check the wikipedia under "Adalet ve Kalkınma Partisi".

    you can find detailed info about that AKP has collected votes due to economical and political reasons, not religion. AKP uses religion as a propaganda to collect votes from radicals. but their actual gain was the structural reforms, economical growth and ending the decade long period of hyperinflation.

  • I have already pointed out were you are wrong. What else should I do, sue you :)

    It's already your turn to prove your claims like Islam pushes people into killing eachother or approves attacking/violence with no reason, by showing quotes from Kur'an.

  • What do you know of their "religion"? If you don't know their religion, how can you be sure of their intention? I don't have to prove anything to you on the Quran as you don't know it. Like i told you, go research on Islam before you decide to jump in on the topic.

  • Free for Uigur, free for Tibet, free for Manchuria, free for Quangxi.

    Nuke Han Chinese out of this world!!!

  • Uighur thugs become thugs because earlier crushes of mostly peaceful protesters. There were protesting peacefully (mostly) against what has happened in the toy factory. Chinese thugs killed many Uighurs(not only two!) just because one Chinese posted a fake message claiming Uighurs raped Chinese girls. All the authority have done is to arrest the Chinse who posted the fake message. Chinese is now controlling eyes and ears of the world. Pretend to be nice in the open, fierce behind the scene

  • who care about trouble maker kill all let everything  settledown china has no choice but has to put every under control....

  • China must act swiftly and agressive against these murderous rioters and their foreign supporter (nazi United States). China must STOP being so NICE and PASSIVE.All these murder rioter rats should be SHOT on sight. Do NOT arrest them just give each of these murderous punks a BULLET to the head...China is completely justify to do so, no country would tolerate this kind of violent killing. The nazi U.S supports Kadeer to carry out this bloody killing,China must take revenge in 1 way or another.

  • YouTube censorship keep delete my posts, so you know what kind of a blow it is to the lies of Western reports:

    watch?v=axP7u_Txk10

  • Before you say that you should learn how to check your posts. If your posts did not show up, you click view all posts, then you can find it. Otherwise you are just making up this or your "great wall" is filtering it.

    Youtube is belong to all humanity. But Chinese gov think its citizen something else and the block it.

  • Hey, Han Chinese never hates Muslin, why the hell this people are killing someone who was their neighbour yestoday? You want Xinjiang undevelopped then go ahead. China has so many nations, but among which Xingjiang robs are so famous in all cities.

  • Just don't let Nazism taken over yet... a lot of people here sounds like want to create a Turkish holocaust... These are just stupid people doing stupid things like anywhere else in the world. They will pay for it... I can't image how much they will pay under Communist government...wowh...I actually start feel a little sorry for them now.....