just becasue OSU didnt deserve a shot at the title doesnt mean the bcs isnt broken as fuck. what about aurburn 04? this is just one example. the bcs needs to be shot and dead, coming from a bama fan....
@foreverdreamin21: And from me, also a Bama fan, no way. Auburn didn't get shafted, they shafted themselves. If anyone got truly screwed that year it was Utah, not Auburn. Most likely cause for it? The Citadel.
Neither team in the title game had an FCS team on the schedule, nor did Utah. The Citadel took the spot on the schedule that a quality win could've filled, and that probably hurt them considerably.
Not to mention the fact that there's no need for denials. NOBODY was fooled by that OSU / OU game. EVERYBODY knows that Oklahoma laid down for OSU because OSU was the only team that stood a chance of winning the BCS title. Voters don't like teams that win by shady deals
Every point made in this video is stupid. OSU lost to an UNRANKED team, and Alabama couldn't win their conference or their division because their only loss came from an in-division rival. Alabama lost to the #1 ranked team in the country. Enough said. Case closed. OSU fans are sore losers who would be exchanging pettiness for humiliation, HAD they been allowed to be embarrassed by EITHER LSU or Alabama. Stop whining and don't lose to an unranked team next year
Speaking of throttling. Bama throttled LSU 21-0. LSU crossed the 50 yard line one time. Bama held LSU to 6 points through 8 quarters but yeah you're right Bama didn't deserve it. The team that lost to Iowa State should've gone. Iowa State had never beaten a top 5 team in history until they beat Okie St. BCS didn't screw Ok St. Ok St screwed themselves when they lost to a patsy.
I'm an LSU fan and when OKState wasn't allowed to play us, was a travesty. It also means that playing a tough schedule gets you no where. Alabama played no one out of conference, and pretty much relied on LSU whooping Oregon and WV to get into the NC. Such bullshit that OKState got fucked like they did. ALABAMA LOST AT HOME, their chance was blown.
@lsugambler Loop holes dude! I love everyone saying Ok St. would not stand a chance. No one knows until the game was played! Human element is what messed this up. The computers got it right and had Ok St ahead. Idiot humans voted Bama in.
@lsugambler Dont get me wrong did not mind seeing Bama win but if anyone thinks it was not wrong then they clearly have to be tought right from wrong. They have no education on how the BCS is suppose to work. They just want to make up the most ubsurde reasons when we have already been told the regular season is the play off meaning THIS CAN NOT HAPPEN!
Alabama didn't win their division, let alone their conference. Alabama had their shot against LSU and blew it AT HOME. OK State had more quality wins. No one wants to see a boring defensive struggle.
And this is the NCAA and the BCS's reaction: So what?!
Alabama is your 2011 National Champion whether anyone likes it or not. I do agree that the BCS is a crock of shit and a playoff is needed. In no way should six computers and 174 people decide the fate of 120 teams.
@VDogg187 Agree! I think the human element is what messes it up. Everyone forgets to realize that statistcally by the computer Ok St was ahead. The BCS voters though did not want that. No problem seeing Bama win but that should have never happened. I honestly believed Bama was the best team in the country from day 1. I just do not see having a clear decise champion when you have 116 teams. The way the Giants won their last 2 SB supports that point.
@josh19852008 BTW, the reason @Landrar called out the Big 10 like that is because they as well as the Pac 12 sere the main opponents of a playoff system being integrated into CFB. They used bullshit trigger words like "Rose Bowl tradition" and "regular season is your playoffs" (that second one seems strangely familiar...)
Hell, Mike Slive (SEC commish) was the first one to mention playoffs, and the Big 10 and PAC 12 were laughing the hardest. Check it out for yourself, Google it.
@VDogg187 No one gave them a chance and they surprised everyone TWICE. Records, rankings, stats, and all of that are almost pointless when you have 116 teams! I think Wisconsin could have beaten LSU. Probably not Bama. I think USC could have beaten LSU. I think Oregon could have bested LSU in a rematch. Yet everyone forgets about WVU putting up 450 yds passing against LSU. No way to tell who the best two teams are and that is what the BCS is suppose to do! Bama was a loop hole.
@josh19852008 All of the teams in the top 3 had a bad game this year. Know what the difference between LSU, Bama, and Okie are? Bama and LSU won their bad games.
@g6iii Again you are missing the point and trying to justify something that is wrong. You will not win! Why? Because I gurantee deep down Bama fans know it was wrong. The NCAA and BCS official I bet off the record would say yes it was wrong and that they voted for what they wanted rather then what was right. Just wait until the BCS system actually gets shut down! You will see Ok St was screwed just like whateve team was behind OU in 03. Hate it all you want but it is TRUTH.
@josh19852008 Of course Okie got screwed, the #3 team get screwed EVERY YEAR. Okie isn't special, they can join the screwed over queue with the 5+ other teams that ended up @ #3. By the way, Okie has absolutely nothing on Auburn in 2004. THAT is a team that got screwed over. Okie lost to Iowa State, they can only blame themselves.
I've wanted the BCS gone for nearly 8 years now; the fact that my team benefited from how screwed up the system is does nothing to change that.
@josh19852008 Actually, everyone was voting for OK St to play LSU. It was formulas in the computer side that didn't allow it to happen. That is the TRUTH. That loss they took to an unranked team hurt them too much.
The AP Poll put OK St there. The Coaches poll put them there. The Harris Poll put them there. The computers said it wasn't enough. No loop hole. Stop being an ass.
The BCS has one job. Place the two top teams in the country in the championship game. Continued next post.
@josh19852008 There is nothing else that matters to the BCS. Should the best two teams not play simply because they are both in the same conference? You say what happened isn't fair, then how is it fair to tell the two top teams they can't play for the championship because they are both from the same conference?
Your argument about WV 450yrds on LSU? True, they had 200 yards more offense than LSU, but the final score was 47-21. That says a LOT!
My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
Haters are gonna hate, but Alabama still has the 2012 championship. Anybody that thinks a team that lost to a joke team like Iowa State deserved to play over Alabama, who only lost in OT to LSU has some seriously flawed logic. Put most of those schools OKS beat this year in the SEC and they won't even be ranked by the time the season is over. LSU would have slaughtered OKS.
@LUBJUGS give me a reason why bama didn't deserve to go. You can't say its because we didn't win our conference for one reason is because its not playoff based and has nothing to do with the BCS, another reason id because bama played the same amount of games and lost to a better team by a closer margin than ok state . And even if you do say ok states schedule was better than bamas our best win destroy their best win in the gotten bowl
all anyone needs to look at is the one loss that each team had, Bama's loss was to the #1 team in the nation, and Okie State's was to unranked, 6-6 iowa state. If Bama had lost to Vandy, or Mississippi St., then they definitely would not have gone to the championship game. If the roles had been reversed, OK State fans would be singing a different tune. Regardless, no matter what anyone says, it is a BCS title and an AP title, so the Big 12 and their 30 year old QBs can suck it. Roll Tide.
The funny thing about everyone whining about the lack of a playoff is the SEC is the conference who brought up the idea years ago. Every other conference except the ACC was opposed to the playoff. Blame the heads of your conferences, not the SEC. Slive tried.
...conference championship game because the big 12 sucks and everyone wants to leave it. So just accept the fact that BAMA won the nat champ and move on with your life! RTR
Everyone who says that BAMA shouldn't have gone to the BCS National championship game because we didn't win our conference is an IDIOT! ok state won their conference, but the had one loss (just like BAMA) and to a worse team, they also never had to go to a
@Evan103198 No they aren't idiots. Alabama did not deserve to go to the NC, but they did, and they capitalized on their 2nd chance so congratulations to them for that. However the rest of the world was treated to a 21-0 shit show that just proved to everyone that these 2 teams had lousy offenses. And considering what a joke Alabama's schedule was compared to OK State's, there is no way someone that isn't a complete homer can honestly say that the Tide deserved to be there. THAT's idiotic.
@LUBJUGS I like how playing against the #1 and #2 defenses in the nation equates to having "lousy" offenses. I guess being #17 (LSU) and #20 (Bama) in points scored is indicative of "lousy" offense, right? Not to mention the fact that Bama's offense was ranked #30 in yardage; but I guess for you XII-2 people that anything less than 400 offensive yards per game is "lousy"?
I bet you think the Baylor-Washington Alamo Bowl was the best game ever,
@g6iii First off, I'm not Big 12. I'm a Michigan fan. I just wanted to watch an entertaining NC game, instead I was given a shitty rematch that somehow managed to out shitty its game from earlier in the season. There is no doubt that the good D had a lot to do with the game, but against a real offense it would go differently. I'm not saying that OK State would've beaten either LSU/Alabama. I'm just saying what most football fans know too: ALABAMA DID NOT DESERVE THE REMATCH
About the "real offense" thing: Both Bama and LSU proved that they can dominate one dimensional offenses. Arkansas had a great offense this season (led the SEC in scoring and total offense), but they were effectively shut down when going against the 2 best defenses in the country. Not guaranteeing that Okie would have suffered the same fate, but they were clearly a one trick pony on offense, and their defense was horrible at best.
@LUBJUGS And it's not like the rematch was preordained or anything, Bama needed Oregon, Stanford, Okie, Oklahoma, Boise, Clemson, and VT to lose in order to have a chance. Facts are facts, Alabama got hit with the perfect storm (RIP), but if one of those teams would have won out, this wouldn't have even been a problem.
Maybe Alabama didn't deserve to be there, but every other team that I listed proved that they didn't deserve to be there either, and they only have themselves to blame.
@g6iii OK State did deserve to be there. Yes they slipped up against a terrible Iowa State team but they ended up trouncing the #10 team and winning the Big 12 in their final game. All the while, Alabama sits on their ass at home because they didn't even win their division much less their conference. This was no different then back in 2006. Michigan was in the same situation Alabama was in but NO ONE wanted the rematch. Ironically the SEC started their title run because of the non rematch. Weird
@LUBJUGS I didn't like the "sitting at home" thing either; but shit, what is Alabama supposed to do, not accept the NC bid? And the key difference between Michigan and Bama is that Bama lost with a 5 week cushion to soften the blow, Michigan lost in the last week. It's a fact that losing early in the season is better than losing late, another thing I'm not a fan of, but there's nothing that can be done about it.
@g6iii I'm not saying not to accept the bid. In no way do I look at Alabama as the scapegoat. They took advantage of the rematch on the more important stage. But going by what the BCS preaches "Every week is playoff week" then rematches should never be set up, whether a team loses in week 5 or week 11. But all of this is matter of opinion. As a Michigan fan, it was a great season. As a fan of the sport though, I feel like I got cheated out towards the end.
@LUBJUGS The BCS is bullshit. This is something that people have been saying for at least 8 years now. Everything from the system, to the system's motto is a complete crock. I don't like it anymore than you do, and I'm willing to admit that despite my team gaining a significant advantage this year that we need a playoff more than ever.
Hopefully this year will move us closer, but I'm not holding my breath. Nothing happened after 2004, and that year was the absolute worst case scenario.
@g6iii As a result of the game, a plus 1 format is in the works for 2014 once the BCS bowl contracts expire is what I heard. Of course that's only speculation. Once again though I'm not trying to discredit what Bama did in the NC game. They were selected, took care of business, and ARE the national champions. Maybe they could beat anyone, maybe they couldn't. But you're right. With this current system in place, finding the best team (or most deserving team) is almost impossible.
@g6iii I'm not saying not to accept the bid. In no way do I look at Alabama as the scapegoat. They took advantage of the rematch on the more important stage. But going by what the BCS preaches "Every week is playoff week" then rematches should never be set up, whether a team loses in week 5 or week 11. But all of this is matter of opinion. As a Michigan fan, it was a great season. As a fan of the sport though, I feel like I got cheated out towards the end.
@LUBJUGS On top of that, Okie played just as many games as Bama did. The only reason they were playing on the last week of the season is because they get an extra bye week due to no Conference championship game (more unfair CFB bullshit).
And no, if Bama didn't deserve to be in the NCG, neither did Okie. Hell LSU was the only team that truly "deserved" to be there, and Les Miles ended up wasting it by coming out with a bullshit game plan.
@LUBJUGS Michigan and OSU didnt deserve a rematch in 06, proved by the fact they both LOST their bowl games. Florida beat the shit out OSU. And about Bama not deserving to go........I think the NCG performance shows they did. Ok State wouldn't have sniffed the pay dirt against either defense. Brandon Weeden wouldve felt like he took a shower at Penn State after facing Bama's D. Can't wait to see the ass beating Bama will put on Michigan in Dallas in a few short months. Bama 2011 National Champs
@lyon002 Well yes, AFTER the bowl games we learned that Michigan and OSU didn't deserve the rematch. However, the BCS selects teams (and this might be a shock to you) BEFORE the bowls actually happen! GASP!! And to say that Ok State wouldn't have been able sniff the endzone against Bama's D is kinda pointless to say, as I've noted that they should've been selected over Bama to play LSU. Sure it's easy to say everything now as the NC has come and gone, but the opinion of America doesn't change.
@LUBJUGS Which team in your opinion would've stood a chance against Alabama or LSU. Bama was the best team in country, evidenced by the 21-0 game against "the greatest team of all time" as they were saying before the game. The 2 best teams in the country played each other, plain and simple. The BCS actually did its job in putting those two together. Sorry that SEC West had the two best, not our fault we're better than you. LSU got lucky in the first game, Im glad Saban got to expose that.
@lyon002 If you want to insert your 2 cents into the conversation, at least read what I wrote so you don't look like an idiot. I never said Baylor/Washington was a good game, I never said anything ABOUT the game. It was fun but far from a good game. And as I said I don't think that Ok State would have beaten LSU, but that at least would have been fair. I mean, who's more likely to be wrong here? The majority of America that feel as I do OR delusional, homer Bama/SEC fans?
@LUBJUGS Would have been fair? how do you figure? They lost to 4 touchdown underdog Iowa State, who also lost their bowl game. Bama beat the shit out of LSU in the NCG, so clearly they were deserving since they are NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. OSU, Stanford, Oregon, etc all lost games after Bama v LSU 1. All they had to do was win....I really don't care if you think bama didnt deserve to go - They did, and They won handily. Cry about it.
@lyon002 They did win and as I said congrats to Alabama for taking advantage of the 2nd chance they were given. Who cares if they can't win the SEC West, they can win the NC. Make sense? Of course not but that's the system the FBS is, which is what my argument is directed towards. Bama is not the scapegoat. But if you are going to argue with me about them being THE supreme team of 2011, I'm going to dropkick some sense into you and lay down the facts. GREAT defense, mediocre (at best) offense.
@lyon002 As for your prediction for the opening game between Alabama/Michigan, you could be right. As a die hard Michigan fan, I'm not blinded by blatant homerism. This will be a difficult game for Michigan. I can only hope it lives up to the hype (unlike LSU/Alabama I and II did).
@LUBJUGS The hype? LSU/Bama 1 and 2 was a great showing of defensive supremacy. And no their offenses weren't terrible, see the rest of their games. If you think a good football game is the Baylor Wash Game, then you're simply a fan of flag football - cause thats what that is. Defense wins championships - some teams need to learn that if they want to play for it all. Roll Tide!
Hmm...so considering West Virginia was able to put up about 400 yards in 3 quarters against LSU and Georgia Southern (GEORGIA FREAKING SOUTHERN) was able to put up well over 300 yards against Alabama, I guess defensive supremacy only counts when playing in the NC. And LSU's offense was ranked 75th before the championship game. I don't need to even look at the rest of their games, that sucks. Bama managed to bolster up their offense by playing how many teams with a winning record? Pathetic.
@LUBJUGS Who won those games? And are you really questioning that Alabama's defensive wasn't the best in the country? Who's was better, please tell me. The 2 best teams in the county played each other, the best team won 21-0. Alabama continues the dynasty starting with your wolverines.
@lyon002 How the hell did you get in my response that I was questioning Bama having the best D? They no doubt had the best D in the country, but when you give up 300+ yards to a D1AA school I will hardly call you "supreme". As for this game Sep. 1, say all you want. I just went through 3 years of Rich Rod, I'm pretty much immune to any trash talk about my team. But the more and more I think about Bama's terrible offense, I can't help but feel better each time. Anyway, let's hope for a good game.
@LUBJUGS Georgia Southern isn't just some shitty FCS school; a Michigan fan should be able to relate to having a tough time against FCS schools. On top of that, they ran the Triple Option. It is rare for a team to shut down a Triple Option offense with only a week to prepare for the game, no matter how good the defense is.
The rankings speak for themselves, say what you want about a single game against a Triple Option offense.
@g6iii But his argument is that Alabama was this amazing team of 2011. They were no doubt the default best team as they are the national champions but to say that this team could beat anybody this year (or is better overall than the 2009 team) is complete stupidity. And yes the triple option is bitch to defend but if you're going to tout a defense as being supreme don't you think it wouldn't have mattered against a D1AA team? If not, thank God Bama didn't have to play Georgia Tech.
@LUBJUGS Compared to other teams THIS YEAR, yes I would say this defense was amazing. That said, I laugh at the notion that this defense was a GOAT defense, as if this D could compare to 2001 Miami or something; a belief that I'm sad to say is shared by many Bama fans (delusional Bama fans).
Stat wise, this defense was amazing this year. Key words: THIS YEAR. Then again, we may have different meanings of the word "amazing."
@LUBJUGS And once again, FCS =/= bad. And if we're going to get technical, it really didn't matter. GS may have scored more and gotten more yards on Bama than any other team managed to do this year, but Bama still won (handily I might add). The game didn't exactly go to the wire.
@lyon002 I do not know what you are trying to prove by bringing up OSU vs Michigan? All it did was prove that it is impossible to deteremine who the best is. There is no telling if Bama or LSU were the best in the country. Bama did not deserve to go. You can hate on that all you want. I do not mind Bama and like seeing them win. BCS and NCAA gave them a loop hole just like they did OU. Take the championship but alls it proves is the system is broken and no real champion was crowned!
@josh19852008 It's quite easy to justify. The BCS is the system in use. The system said they should go, and they did. Your feelings on the matter of whether they deserved it or not are irrelevant.
Past that, look at the teams that Alabama and LSU not just beat, but utterly destroyed.
LSU took out 8 ranked teams, including 2 other conference champions.
Bama was the only team that held them out of the end zone, and, in the end, the only team that beat them. Probably the only team that could.
@Landrar That is just a justification. Bamas Schecule was weaker then Ok St if you want to get technical. I am not asking for anything about LSU. You can jot and NO ONE CAN justify Bama being in this game. There was a loop hole found. It was said before I will say it again. They regular season is the play offs. There is no play off system in the world where two teams from the same conference can play each other. No play off system in the world can a team that do not win their conference
@josh19852008 Alabama didn't drop a late season game to an unranked team. Ok St blew it. There was no conspiracy. What league allows non confernce champions a chance at the title? How about all of them? They are called wild cards. In NCAAB they are called at large teams and make up more than half the tourney.
Greedy? The NC had the lowest viewers of all time, and everyone knew it would be like that.
I will also point out that while the BCS is shit, it's a lot better than the old system.
@Landrar The losses are pointless. You can argue that point until you are out of breath. The point is and will always be Bama did not win their division of play on a conference championship game. Ok St shedule by statitics was stronger then Bamas. A loop hole was found. Never said it was a conspiracy. Slice it any way you want but the answer it it was wrong and will always be wrong.
@josh19852008 The point is that Bama are the NC. Also, who paid Stoops to throw that game against Ok St is what I want to know. I never seen a team just not show up at all for a rivalry game. It was obviously what they had in mind. As far as tougher scheldule, it's not our fault the other teams we played fell out of ranking. And no team that lose to Iowa St. deserve to be in no NC. What's really funny is that the media wan't even holding Ok St jock strap until Oregon lose twice
@josh19852008 Everybody talking about a rematch is a waste of time. The media wanted Oregon to play LSU again until USC ended that convo. Then the media jumped on the Oklahoma bandwagon until they mailed the rest of the season in. So who is left to knock the SEC off this year Ok St. The media started hyping them up when their first two hopefuls didn't make it. I don't know if the SEC will be in next year but I'm pretty sure they media will hope Ok St or Oregon can knock us off the throne.
@DurtyDirkDiggler Rematchs do not generally bother me. I think many teams can compete with the SEC. You just do not get to see many of those match ups. My biggest argument is just the fact Bama did not win their division or play in the CCG. If the regular season is the play off which was said by certain officials then Bama was eliminated. 116 teams it is impossible to say 2 are the best. Example the NYG horrible regular season and now they are in the SB. No way to tell PERIOD!
@josh19852008 If Bama was eliminated, then so was everyone else.
Here is where your comprehension is failing you. The CCG and NC are mutually exclusive. There are no requirements from one to the other.
NCAA does not have an actual National Championship. It sorta recognizes it, but up until the BCS, the champion was determined by the Coaches and AP polls. Many times split champions were named. There is no NCAA National Championship.
You want to get rid of the BCS? Talk to the BIG 10.
@Landrar First of all how was everyone else eliminated? They did not lose to LSU! COMMON NOW! You know damn well what I meant you are just trying to find a lame way around it! Secondly what does the BCS have to do with the Big 10? We sure as hell are not the ones keeping the BCS. Stop putting the blame and hate on the Big 10. If you are going to point fingers at anyone you better damn well be pointing them at the BCS and NCAA!
@josh19852008 Your belief that the regular season = playoffs is hilarious. Any dumbass knows that that is a complete load of bullshit. If a team can go undefeated and still not have a chance at the NC game, then their entire season was completely irrelevant; their "playoffs" were nothing more than a giant consolation prize from the beginning.
@josh19852008 I point the finger at the BCS because the BIG 10 and and PAC 10 (Now 12) are the two conferences that have kept it in place. Both the BIG 12 and SEC have been pushing hard for a playoff.
The real question is, if there was a playoff, and the result turned out the same, would your vagina still be full of sand?
@Landrar Now you just lost my respect. We are simply discussing the situation. You can go kill your self now. Hopefully you do that to the rest of your family to! You are just another peice of shit fan that needs to be irradicated from this earth.
@Landrar Everything you said was actually false. Your are uneducated. Since you wanted to be a dick keep replying because this is the only response you will get!
@Landrar Maybe if you were not such a fucking douche bag I would. For now Everything you said was actually false. Your are uneducated. Since you wanted to be a dick keep replying because this is the only response you will get!
@Landrar Everything you said was actually false. Your are uneducated. Since you wanted to be a dick keep replying because this is the only response you will get!
@DurtyDirkDiggler I like the fact that Bama won. Bama winning again is amazing. I am a Buckeye fan. I just wish fans would stop trying to say well you know because of the "eye test". That is so absurdly wrong. Teams have bad nights. Until a game is played you never know what the out come will be. Stats do not even matter. I just think people are to quick to throw teams and their own team along with players and coaches under the bus to fast.
@josh19852008 "They regular season is the play offs"
If you honestly believe that BCS sympathetic bullshit, then you forfeit your right to bitch about needing a better system. Anyone that honestly believes that is delusional beyond belief. 2004 already destroyed any possible meaning that statement had.
If it's impossible to justify Bama being there, then no one else besides LSU deserved to be there since they were the only undefeated team going into the NC game.
@g6iii Next time grow a pair and send me this message! Not bitching about the system you jack ass! Maybe you need to read evreything I said before you make assumptions! You get nothing form me. Go troll somewhere else because you clearly can not read!
@g6iii You are a troll for starting a argument where the was no argument! Clearly you are uneducated! You say the thing about the play off and the regular season is hilarious? Well then I guess you should be laughing at the BCS and NCAA officials that said it! Really if all you can do is prove to me how uneducated you are about the topic yet want to try to argue about it then you are a TROLL
@josh19852008 "Well then I guess you should be laughing at the BCS and NCAA officials that said it"
You're right. And guess who used that phrase most often? Big 10 Commissioner Jim Delany. Funny how shit works out, huh? I also make sure to laugh extra hard at dumbasses that continue to use the phrase as if it has any actual meaning.
@josh19852008 "You are a troll for starting a argument where the was no argument"
Bitch all I did was respond to your comment. Your statements aren't factual just because you say so. All you've done is try to pass your opinions off as facts; who's really the uneducated one here?
@g6iii You came to me looking for a argument you could not win MAKES YOU A TROLL! The Big 10 commissioner did not say that! You only proved my point about you knowing anothign about what you are trying to talk about! Ok St was just as screwed as who ever was behind OU in 03. You are on here running yoru mouth trying to act all bad ass to me it only makes you a fucking pathetic TROLL. You are so blind you do not even know who to blame I will tell you BCS, NCAA, and the human element.
@josh19852008 My bad, Delany didn't say regular season = playoffs; he said playoffs would diminish the regular season, equally as stupid, but no Delany didn't say that. Of course, I can't find a quote where ANY BCS official said that statement either, mind explaining that since you obviously so much more quote knowledgeable than I am? Hell, you just have to give me a name; or would you rather go on another random tangent about how I'm just a blind troll.
@josh19852008 Oh, so you don't have any proof and I'm just supposed to take your word for it. LOL, who's really the uneducated one? If you're only going to give me a cookie cutter response, that only proves that you lack anything good to say.
Calling me an uneducated troll, that's just cute; and I'm talking kittens wrestling cute, your shit is that irrelevant.
@g6iii Now I can go on like this for ever. You are just being a huge piece of shit right now. Maybe you if you could actually talk to me about it instead of being the biggest jack ass ever you could comprehend and actually find the truth that is actually out there. You are just to blind to actually find it. If not then we can keep going on like this. Either way does not matter. I am medically retired. I have nothing but time on my hands!
@Landrar Play in the title game. That would be like saying well yea Greenbay lost but they had the best record lets just put them in. There is also no way to prove out of 116 teams who the best ones are. People can argue all they want but points are valid and fact. Bama and OU will go down as teams that rules were minipulated for to get them in. I like seeing Bama win. It will suck. Just like it is inevitable that somewhere down the road Auburn will lose there title.
@Landrar Someone is going to eventually speak because it is inevitable. I liked seeing Auburn win it. People are greedy and want money. Which is why they made it happen that Bama got into this game. It all sucks and sadly a actual playoff set up will not fix it with a 116 teams. Not against LSU getting destroyed by Bama because LSU fans deserved that beating. I am against the people that allowed it to happen because they know it was and will always be WRONG. Same thing with OU!
@LUBJUGS And about the schedule thing; Okie's schedule is ranked higher than Bama's because they played 9 conference games. If Okie were to trade their game against 2-10 Kansas for Georgia Southern while Bama traded their Georgia Souther game for another game against an SEC bottom feeder, their schedule rankings would effectively swap.
Which we both know is complete bullshit. Kansas would get destroyed by GS, but because one is an FBS team, their effect on SOS rankings is inflated.
21-0 I wish Bama played Chokelahoma State next week. Shut your pouty mouths up when you get a hold of some SEC team that knocks your QB out the game. Who was the Cowpoke backup anyway? LOL
Alabama lost to who? #1lsu!! Who did osu lose to? And who one the title sweet home Alabama and the s.e.c. Hitler was a loser if he liked the big 12 hahaha what a joke
when the HELL was this game, I just TODAY realized I haven't seen it. I never knew what channel or when it was on I wanted to watch it. oh well college football is kinda gay
Haha love this shit, hell ima SEC fan and dont believe alabama should have had a rematch, would have been a better game and not so boring if another team played LSU, to bad BCS just cares about tv ratings.....
@TheDawgfan89 2 best teams in the country played and the best team won. BAMA & LSU would have bitch slapped Ok St, Stanford... or any other team put in front of them... that "not so much of a boring game" is bull shit... that was amazing D, and a beautiful game... you remember Defense don't you? They used to play it in the SEC East.
@TheDawgfan89: The BCS picks #1 and #2 and those teams play, it doesn't give two shits whether they've played or not. That's how it's been for 15 years now and everyone has known that shit like this could happen. Get over it and quit bitching.
@PooPoo2U It is our American right to bitch about it. The entire world knows it is wrong even under the BCS. The only thing that makes it ok is for idiot SEC fans. Christ if something does not go the SEC way it has to be a fucking conspiracy. There is not a issue of teams being #1 and #2. The issue is the regular season is the play off. PERIOD in no play off can teams from the same conference let alone the SAME DIVISION meet in a championship game. GET OVER IT! It is wrong.
@PooPoo2U There is on rule. Again that is not the issue. You clearly do not need to be discussing this topic. You are to blinded to see the issue. GET LOST TROLL.
@josh19852008: That is the issue because you're saying it can't happen. Was it unlikely that it would happen? Yes. Did it happen regardless? Yes. Was there a rule stopping it from happening? No.
You said "if something does not go the SEC way it has to be a fucking conspiracy"
Well, in this case it DID go our way and YOU are calling it a conspiracy, not me. The system hasn't changed fool.
@PooPoo2U Because it can not happen. Clearly you miss all the fucking rules these people make. You can keep trying to justify it ALL YOU WANT. The system has changed. They found loop holes for OU and Bama. Either deal with that and the fact that it was wrong or you can just shut up. You will not win. The entire sports world KNOWS IT WAS WRONG. GET OVER IT! I gurantee you Almost all Bama fans deep down in side know it was wrong to even though a idiot like you is to scared ot admit it.
@josh19852008: It's highly illogical and idiotic to say that something that DID happen can not happen. If the rules do not specifically prohibit a rematch then it is not a loophole.
Again, if you're one of those morons who say the Bama benefitted from the BCS system blame your commissioner, because OUR commissioner was the one who suggested a playoff system that the other conferences shot down. THAT is a fact.
@PooPoo2U Yet you clearly do not know who to blame so why even talk about who to blame? Let me tell you since you clearly are uneducated about how bowl games are decided! THE HUMAN ELEMENT YOU INCOHERENT LITTLE CHILD. How can something happen that can not happen? Shit it happens all the fucking time! Idiots like you LET SHIT HAPPEN! Then wonder why our country is fucked up and the rest of the world laughs at us! Clearly you have no clue about anything.
@josh19852008: Don't know who to blame? The other commissioners for dismissing Slive's offer, and OK State, Oklahoma, Boise State, and Stanford for losing big at the right times and allowing it to happen.
As for your "the rest of the world laughs about us" I'd say you're right: I'm Irish and I'm laughing my ass off at how stupid you are.
@PooPoo2U Yet everyone is really laughing at idiots like you. Keep trying to justify it being right. It is wrong and even though you will not admit it you know it is. You are the idiot trying to justify wrong doing. Not me! Kind of sounds like our govt! Are you with Obama? Seriously TROLL get lost. You are clueless and I hope one day your type is removed from this earth. No comprehension of whats right and wrong people like you are just ruining this world!
@josh19852008: You're stupid as hell trying to tell me what I know. What I know is that the BCS is the system we're under and we won it fair and square. You're the one saying it's a conspiracy when the other conferences who are bitching now decided not to accept a playoff system.
Why don't you bitch and whine a little more? It's pretty funny if I'm honest!
Come on guys. Season is over. Alabama is your 2011 National Champion. They have claimed it, the BCS and AP have claimed it, and I am sure the NCAA will claim it though they have nothing to do with the BCS. Enough of the what ifs, wouldas, couldas, and shouldas. And unless/until there are major sanctions against Alabama, that will not change.
I still watch this vid even though the season is long over simply because it's funny.
@SuperSilverSaber nooo fuck off you dick riding shits you sec bandwagon cock smokers USC all day fuck the sec can't till next yeat USC back in the picture F all of you who responds to this
@SuperSilverSaber nooo fuck off you dick riding shits you sec bandwagon cock smokers USC all day fuck the sec can't till next yeat USC back in the picture F all of you who responds to this
Everyone's babbling about college football. Wake the FUCK up, dudes!! This was the first "Hitler Reacts" video I saw. I've seen, I think 100. Or maybe 200. This is the BEST!! Subtitles, editing, etc. With "Uncontrollable farting," a close second.
A playoff system would suck. I mean, you know how hard it's going to be to give the SEC four spots every year so they can be guaranteed a title every year? People might catch on with four.
So what are the other conferences going to do when we get a playoff and the SEC dominates that :) face all other conferences are a joke i vote that from here on out the SEC champion gets an automatic slot in the national title game everyone else can scrap for the other slot
@tidefan221 lmao. Cant agree more.lsu and bama was 1 and 2 both in D and O. OSU did good but they aren't equally defensive. Since AL shut out the number one offense what do you honestly think OSU could do? And our D isnt a secret. Its always high
LOL. Funny stuff. There must have been a lot of beer that played into this Hitler concept. To my fellow Bama fans, I think this was intended to be funny and not to spark a BCS debate. Let's not let our fanhood get in the way of our sense of humor... come on now.
If ur pissed bama got a 2nd chance please check the facts. Alabama lost by 3 to lsu but in the game Alabama scored a TD but was robbed of it. Furthermore i believe just a few years back Alabama was in the same situation when USC won and auburn was in the same situation after that. Dont like the bcs? Make a way of keeping score that takes into account region talent, running up the score, ect and send it in. Till then deal with it.
OSU thinks they could beat Bama or lsu cause they put up high offense numbers, but they do it against high school type defenses.... That so called high powered offense would get destroyed by our defense. Period.. OSU u had your chance and blew it against a shitty Iowa state..
@tidefan221 If the BCS is supposed to be that the season is a playoff, then didn't Alabama technically blow it by losing to LSU the 1st time? Fact is OKSU never had a chance to play either Bama or LSU, so there's no way to honestly say if bama would beat oksu or vice versa if they never went head to head, games are played on the field, not on paper. The only way anybody would truly know who would beat who is to have them play head to head, a true D1-A National Champion decided by a playoff.
@PooPoo2U The unranked ISU team was on their schedule...Bama and LSU weren't and because the system is the way it is we'll never truly and decisively know how a match up between OSU and one of those 2 teams would've went because they never played. The issue I have with the way the system is that because there is no playoff system like there is every other division of football, we truly never get to find out if team a could beat team b because they never play head to head. Happens every year.
@PooPoo2U I hope you'll at least agree with me that we need a playoff system and not this farce known as the bcs. If Bama and LSU would've met after say a 16 team playoff where alot of these unanswered questions were answered, I'd have no issue whatsoever with them meeting for a legitimate National Championship. If the NFL operated the way D1A Football does, you'd have probably the Packers and Patriots in the SB, but there is a playoff and the NYG (9-7RS) played their way there.
@Stealth892003: Shit, Slive proposed a +1 playoff system 4 years ago which the Big 12, Oklahoma State's conference, rejected! And not just rejected, they wouldn't even discuss it! Hell, had they discussed it they might have prevented their conferences from going up in flames.
Now they want to use it as a platform for how they got screwed? If the other commissioners suggested a playoff in the future and I were Slive I'd turn my nose up at it. To hell with that!
@PooPoo2U I'm well aware of what the SEC commisioner suggested and the fact the ACC was willing to go with it too, it amazed me at the stupidity of the other bcs conferences to oppose it the way they did. If I were Slive, I'd give them a big fat "I told you so" and get the something set up.
@Stealth892003: At the time they didn't feel it would benefit them so they said no. Now their conferences are being gutted by teams leaving and the SEC is staying exactly the same they've all changed their minds.
Were I Slive I would, verbatim, tell them to "Blow it out their asses."
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"11 game regular season not 12. 8 team playoff. Win 3 games in the postseason, win a CHAMPIONSHIP.
why is this so HARD?
Champion will play a total of 15 games"
Plus, DO NOT have rankings until after the 5th week so we actually have an idea who the real top 10 teams are.. EX. FSU every SINGLE year.
gradyj14 2 days ago
21-0. RTR
MarisandGrady 5 days ago
Offense sells tickets. Defense wins championships.
RedElephantStampede 1 week ago
@RedElephantStampede which is why LSU holds the SEC championship...our D is ligit.
Spacenutz 4 days ago
Bama won, get over it!
SmilinDon 1 week ago
just becasue OSU didnt deserve a shot at the title doesnt mean the bcs isnt broken as fuck. what about aurburn 04? this is just one example. the bcs needs to be shot and dead, coming from a bama fan....
foreverdreamin21 1 week ago in playlist LSU vs. Alabama
@foreverdreamin21: And from me, also a Bama fan, no way. Auburn didn't get shafted, they shafted themselves. If anyone got truly screwed that year it was Utah, not Auburn. Most likely cause for it? The Citadel.
Neither team in the title game had an FCS team on the schedule, nor did Utah. The Citadel took the spot on the schedule that a quality win could've filled, and that probably hurt them considerably.
PooPoo2U 1 week ago
LMFAO Geaux Tigers!
JWSlack 2 weeks ago
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LMFAO. Geaux Tigers!
JWSlack 2 weeks ago
LMFAO. Geaux Tigers!
JWSlack 2 weeks ago
Lol Vanderbilt
cheez0214 2 weeks ago
Not to mention the fact that there's no need for denials. NOBODY was fooled by that OSU / OU game. EVERYBODY knows that Oklahoma laid down for OSU because OSU was the only team that stood a chance of winning the BCS title. Voters don't like teams that win by shady deals
BlackFox0911 2 weeks ago
Every point made in this video is stupid. OSU lost to an UNRANKED team, and Alabama couldn't win their conference or their division because their only loss came from an in-division rival. Alabama lost to the #1 ranked team in the country. Enough said. Case closed. OSU fans are sore losers who would be exchanging pettiness for humiliation, HAD they been allowed to be embarrassed by EITHER LSU or Alabama. Stop whining and don't lose to an unranked team next year
BlackFox0911 2 weeks ago
Speaking of throttling. Bama throttled LSU 21-0. LSU crossed the 50 yard line one time. Bama held LSU to 6 points through 8 quarters but yeah you're right Bama didn't deserve it. The team that lost to Iowa State should've gone. Iowa State had never beaten a top 5 team in history until they beat Okie St. BCS didn't screw Ok St. Ok St screwed themselves when they lost to a patsy.
wwwiv 2 weeks ago
Are your arguement is just that crying like a little girl.. get over it we blew LSU out n ok state would have gotten ran
TheBamaboy2086 2 weeks ago
I'm an LSU fan and when OKState wasn't allowed to play us, was a travesty. It also means that playing a tough schedule gets you no where. Alabama played no one out of conference, and pretty much relied on LSU whooping Oregon and WV to get into the NC. Such bullshit that OKState got fucked like they did. ALABAMA LOST AT HOME, their chance was blown.
lsugambler 2 weeks ago
@lsugambler Loop holes dude! I love everyone saying Ok St. would not stand a chance. No one knows until the game was played! Human element is what messed this up. The computers got it right and had Ok St ahead. Idiot humans voted Bama in.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@lsugambler Dont get me wrong did not mind seeing Bama win but if anyone thinks it was not wrong then they clearly have to be tought right from wrong. They have no education on how the BCS is suppose to work. They just want to make up the most ubsurde reasons when we have already been told the regular season is the play off meaning THIS CAN NOT HAPPEN!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
The national title game was nearly a month ago and I'm still watching this vid just because it's funny.
VDogg187 2 weeks ago
Alabama didn't win their division, let alone their conference. Alabama had their shot against LSU and blew it AT HOME. OK State had more quality wins. No one wants to see a boring defensive struggle.
And this is the NCAA and the BCS's reaction: So what?!
Alabama is your 2011 National Champion whether anyone likes it or not. I do agree that the BCS is a crock of shit and a playoff is needed. In no way should six computers and 174 people decide the fate of 120 teams.
VDogg187 2 weeks ago
@VDogg187 Agree! I think the human element is what messes it up. Everyone forgets to realize that statistcally by the computer Ok St was ahead. The BCS voters though did not want that. No problem seeing Bama win but that should have never happened. I honestly believed Bama was the best team in the country from day 1. I just do not see having a clear decise champion when you have 116 teams. The way the Giants won their last 2 SB supports that point.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 BTW, the reason @Landrar called out the Big 10 like that is because they as well as the Pac 12 sere the main opponents of a playoff system being integrated into CFB. They used bullshit trigger words like "Rose Bowl tradition" and "regular season is your playoffs" (that second one seems strangely familiar...)
Hell, Mike Slive (SEC commish) was the first one to mention playoffs, and the Big 10 and PAC 12 were laughing the hardest. Check it out for yourself, Google it.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@VDogg187 No one gave them a chance and they surprised everyone TWICE. Records, rankings, stats, and all of that are almost pointless when you have 116 teams! I think Wisconsin could have beaten LSU. Probably not Bama. I think USC could have beaten LSU. I think Oregon could have bested LSU in a rematch. Yet everyone forgets about WVU putting up 450 yds passing against LSU. No way to tell who the best two teams are and that is what the BCS is suppose to do! Bama was a loop hole.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 All of the teams in the top 3 had a bad game this year. Know what the difference between LSU, Bama, and Okie are? Bama and LSU won their bad games.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@g6iii Again you are missing the point and trying to justify something that is wrong. You will not win! Why? Because I gurantee deep down Bama fans know it was wrong. The NCAA and BCS official I bet off the record would say yes it was wrong and that they voted for what they wanted rather then what was right. Just wait until the BCS system actually gets shut down! You will see Ok St was screwed just like whateve team was behind OU in 03. Hate it all you want but it is TRUTH.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Of course Okie got screwed, the #3 team get screwed EVERY YEAR. Okie isn't special, they can join the screwed over queue with the 5+ other teams that ended up @ #3. By the way, Okie has absolutely nothing on Auburn in 2004. THAT is a team that got screwed over. Okie lost to Iowa State, they can only blame themselves.
I've wanted the BCS gone for nearly 8 years now; the fact that my team benefited from how screwed up the system is does nothing to change that.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Actually, everyone was voting for OK St to play LSU. It was formulas in the computer side that didn't allow it to happen. That is the TRUTH. That loss they took to an unranked team hurt them too much.
The AP Poll put OK St there. The Coaches poll put them there. The Harris Poll put them there. The computers said it wasn't enough. No loop hole. Stop being an ass.
The BCS has one job. Place the two top teams in the country in the championship game. Continued next post.
Landrar 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 There is nothing else that matters to the BCS. Should the best two teams not play simply because they are both in the same conference? You say what happened isn't fair, then how is it fair to tell the two top teams they can't play for the championship because they are both from the same conference?
Your argument about WV 450yrds on LSU? True, they had 200 yards more offense than LSU, but the final score was 47-21. That says a LOT!
The two best teams played. The best team won.
Landrar 2 weeks ago
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My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
toonzboss 3 weeks ago
My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
toonzboss 3 weeks ago
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My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
toonzboss 3 weeks ago
My God, I don't know why you idiots cannot get a grip and quit your damn whining! You say Alabama shouldn't have played for the Title? Did you watch the game? Hell my question is, what the hell was LSU doing there? But nobody was bitching about LSU being number one and being there, to lose in OT with a field goal, when you keep your opponent out of the end zone the entire game is not enough to change your spot in the standings. Whatever, the Tide are the Champions! Get Over It!!
toonzboss 3 weeks ago
hahaha almost everyone leaves!
TheRtr87 3 weeks ago
osu: 1 loss 2OT on the road
bama: 1 loss OT at home
osu: conference champions
bama: western division runner up
osu: fiesta bow champs
bama: national champions.. w8 WTF?!?!?!?!?!?!?
stlcards11in11 3 weeks ago 2
@stlcards11in11
Bama: 1 loss in OT to the (At the time) #1 team in the nation
Okie: 1 loss in 2OT to a 4 touchdown underdog
One of these things is not like the other...
g6iii 3 weeks ago
Haters are gonna hate, but Alabama still has the 2012 championship. Anybody that thinks a team that lost to a joke team like Iowa State deserved to play over Alabama, who only lost in OT to LSU has some seriously flawed logic. Put most of those schools OKS beat this year in the SEC and they won't even be ranked by the time the season is over. LSU would have slaughtered OKS.
daFattylover 3 weeks ago
@daFattylover *2011*
daFattylover 3 weeks ago
I can't even believe y'all are still arguing over this. I hate Bama, but they are by FAR the best team in the country. Move on for Chrissakes.
OneMissionInLife 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS give me a reason why bama didn't deserve to go. You can't say its because we didn't win our conference for one reason is because its not playoff based and has nothing to do with the BCS, another reason id because bama played the same amount of games and lost to a better team by a closer margin than ok state . And even if you do say ok states schedule was better than bamas our best win destroy their best win in the gotten bowl
Evan103198 3 weeks ago
all anyone needs to look at is the one loss that each team had, Bama's loss was to the #1 team in the nation, and Okie State's was to unranked, 6-6 iowa state. If Bama had lost to Vandy, or Mississippi St., then they definitely would not have gone to the championship game. If the roles had been reversed, OK State fans would be singing a different tune. Regardless, no matter what anyone says, it is a BCS title and an AP title, so the Big 12 and their 30 year old QBs can suck it. Roll Tide.
aridwordbitch 3 weeks ago
The funny thing about everyone whining about the lack of a playoff is the SEC is the conference who brought up the idea years ago. Every other conference except the ACC was opposed to the playoff. Blame the heads of your conferences, not the SEC. Slive tried.
TheSnt13 3 weeks ago
...conference championship game because the big 12 sucks and everyone wants to leave it. So just accept the fact that BAMA won the nat champ and move on with your life! RTR
Evan103198 3 weeks ago
Everyone who says that BAMA shouldn't have gone to the BCS National championship game because we didn't win our conference is an IDIOT! ok state won their conference, but the had one loss (just like BAMA) and to a worse team, they also never had to go to a
Evan103198 3 weeks ago
@Evan103198 No they aren't idiots. Alabama did not deserve to go to the NC, but they did, and they capitalized on their 2nd chance so congratulations to them for that. However the rest of the world was treated to a 21-0 shit show that just proved to everyone that these 2 teams had lousy offenses. And considering what a joke Alabama's schedule was compared to OK State's, there is no way someone that isn't a complete homer can honestly say that the Tide deserved to be there. THAT's idiotic.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS I like how playing against the #1 and #2 defenses in the nation equates to having "lousy" offenses. I guess being #17 (LSU) and #20 (Bama) in points scored is indicative of "lousy" offense, right? Not to mention the fact that Bama's offense was ranked #30 in yardage; but I guess for you XII-2 people that anything less than 400 offensive yards per game is "lousy"?
I bet you think the Baylor-Washington Alamo Bowl was the best game ever,
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@g6iii First off, I'm not Big 12. I'm a Michigan fan. I just wanted to watch an entertaining NC game, instead I was given a shitty rematch that somehow managed to out shitty its game from earlier in the season. There is no doubt that the good D had a lot to do with the game, but against a real offense it would go differently. I'm not saying that OK State would've beaten either LSU/Alabama. I'm just saying what most football fans know too: ALABAMA DID NOT DESERVE THE REMATCH
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Touché on the conference thing.
About the "real offense" thing: Both Bama and LSU proved that they can dominate one dimensional offenses. Arkansas had a great offense this season (led the SEC in scoring and total offense), but they were effectively shut down when going against the 2 best defenses in the country. Not guaranteeing that Okie would have suffered the same fate, but they were clearly a one trick pony on offense, and their defense was horrible at best.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS And it's not like the rematch was preordained or anything, Bama needed Oregon, Stanford, Okie, Oklahoma, Boise, Clemson, and VT to lose in order to have a chance. Facts are facts, Alabama got hit with the perfect storm (RIP), but if one of those teams would have won out, this wouldn't have even been a problem.
Maybe Alabama didn't deserve to be there, but every other team that I listed proved that they didn't deserve to be there either, and they only have themselves to blame.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@g6iii OK State did deserve to be there. Yes they slipped up against a terrible Iowa State team but they ended up trouncing the #10 team and winning the Big 12 in their final game. All the while, Alabama sits on their ass at home because they didn't even win their division much less their conference. This was no different then back in 2006. Michigan was in the same situation Alabama was in but NO ONE wanted the rematch. Ironically the SEC started their title run because of the non rematch. Weird
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS I didn't like the "sitting at home" thing either; but shit, what is Alabama supposed to do, not accept the NC bid? And the key difference between Michigan and Bama is that Bama lost with a 5 week cushion to soften the blow, Michigan lost in the last week. It's a fact that losing early in the season is better than losing late, another thing I'm not a fan of, but there's nothing that can be done about it.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@g6iii I'm not saying not to accept the bid. In no way do I look at Alabama as the scapegoat. They took advantage of the rematch on the more important stage. But going by what the BCS preaches "Every week is playoff week" then rematches should never be set up, whether a team loses in week 5 or week 11. But all of this is matter of opinion. As a Michigan fan, it was a great season. As a fan of the sport though, I feel like I got cheated out towards the end.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS The BCS is bullshit. This is something that people have been saying for at least 8 years now. Everything from the system, to the system's motto is a complete crock. I don't like it anymore than you do, and I'm willing to admit that despite my team gaining a significant advantage this year that we need a playoff more than ever.
Hopefully this year will move us closer, but I'm not holding my breath. Nothing happened after 2004, and that year was the absolute worst case scenario.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@g6iii As a result of the game, a plus 1 format is in the works for 2014 once the BCS bowl contracts expire is what I heard. Of course that's only speculation. Once again though I'm not trying to discredit what Bama did in the NC game. They were selected, took care of business, and ARE the national champions. Maybe they could beat anyone, maybe they couldn't. But you're right. With this current system in place, finding the best team (or most deserving team) is almost impossible.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
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@g6iii I'm not saying not to accept the bid. In no way do I look at Alabama as the scapegoat. They took advantage of the rematch on the more important stage. But going by what the BCS preaches "Every week is playoff week" then rematches should never be set up, whether a team loses in week 5 or week 11. But all of this is matter of opinion. As a Michigan fan, it was a great season. As a fan of the sport though, I feel like I got cheated out towards the end.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS On top of that, Okie played just as many games as Bama did. The only reason they were playing on the last week of the season is because they get an extra bye week due to no Conference championship game (more unfair CFB bullshit).
And no, if Bama didn't deserve to be in the NCG, neither did Okie. Hell LSU was the only team that truly "deserved" to be there, and Les Miles ended up wasting it by coming out with a bullshit game plan.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Michigan and OSU didnt deserve a rematch in 06, proved by the fact they both LOST their bowl games. Florida beat the shit out OSU. And about Bama not deserving to go........I think the NCG performance shows they did. Ok State wouldn't have sniffed the pay dirt against either defense. Brandon Weeden wouldve felt like he took a shower at Penn State after facing Bama's D. Can't wait to see the ass beating Bama will put on Michigan in Dallas in a few short months. Bama 2011 National Champs
lyon002 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 Well yes, AFTER the bowl games we learned that Michigan and OSU didn't deserve the rematch. However, the BCS selects teams (and this might be a shock to you) BEFORE the bowls actually happen! GASP!! And to say that Ok State wouldn't have been able sniff the endzone against Bama's D is kinda pointless to say, as I've noted that they should've been selected over Bama to play LSU. Sure it's easy to say everything now as the NC has come and gone, but the opinion of America doesn't change.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Which team in your opinion would've stood a chance against Alabama or LSU. Bama was the best team in country, evidenced by the 21-0 game against "the greatest team of all time" as they were saying before the game. The 2 best teams in the country played each other, plain and simple. The BCS actually did its job in putting those two together. Sorry that SEC West had the two best, not our fault we're better than you. LSU got lucky in the first game, Im glad Saban got to expose that.
lyon002 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 If you want to insert your 2 cents into the conversation, at least read what I wrote so you don't look like an idiot. I never said Baylor/Washington was a good game, I never said anything ABOUT the game. It was fun but far from a good game. And as I said I don't think that Ok State would have beaten LSU, but that at least would have been fair. I mean, who's more likely to be wrong here? The majority of America that feel as I do OR delusional, homer Bama/SEC fans?
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Would have been fair? how do you figure? They lost to 4 touchdown underdog Iowa State, who also lost their bowl game. Bama beat the shit out of LSU in the NCG, so clearly they were deserving since they are NATIONAL CHAMPIONS. OSU, Stanford, Oregon, etc all lost games after Bama v LSU 1. All they had to do was win....I really don't care if you think bama didnt deserve to go - They did, and They won handily. Cry about it.
lyon002 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 They did win and as I said congrats to Alabama for taking advantage of the 2nd chance they were given. Who cares if they can't win the SEC West, they can win the NC. Make sense? Of course not but that's the system the FBS is, which is what my argument is directed towards. Bama is not the scapegoat. But if you are going to argue with me about them being THE supreme team of 2011, I'm going to dropkick some sense into you and lay down the facts. GREAT defense, mediocre (at best) offense.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS #16 in Total Offense....
lyon002 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 31st in total offense. While playing scrubs teams like Georgia Southern, North Texas, Kent State, etc...
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 As for your prediction for the opening game between Alabama/Michigan, you could be right. As a die hard Michigan fan, I'm not blinded by blatant homerism. This will be a difficult game for Michigan. I can only hope it lives up to the hype (unlike LSU/Alabama I and II did).
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS The hype? LSU/Bama 1 and 2 was a great showing of defensive supremacy. And no their offenses weren't terrible, see the rest of their games. If you think a good football game is the Baylor Wash Game, then you're simply a fan of flag football - cause thats what that is. Defense wins championships - some teams need to learn that if they want to play for it all. Roll Tide!
lyon002 3 weeks ago
Hmm...so considering West Virginia was able to put up about 400 yards in 3 quarters against LSU and Georgia Southern (GEORGIA FREAKING SOUTHERN) was able to put up well over 300 yards against Alabama, I guess defensive supremacy only counts when playing in the NC. And LSU's offense was ranked 75th before the championship game. I don't need to even look at the rest of their games, that sucks. Bama managed to bolster up their offense by playing how many teams with a winning record? Pathetic.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Who won those games? And are you really questioning that Alabama's defensive wasn't the best in the country? Who's was better, please tell me. The 2 best teams in the county played each other, the best team won 21-0. Alabama continues the dynasty starting with your wolverines.
lyon002 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 How the hell did you get in my response that I was questioning Bama having the best D? They no doubt had the best D in the country, but when you give up 300+ yards to a D1AA school I will hardly call you "supreme". As for this game Sep. 1, say all you want. I just went through 3 years of Rich Rod, I'm pretty much immune to any trash talk about my team. But the more and more I think about Bama's terrible offense, I can't help but feel better each time. Anyway, let's hope for a good game.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Georgia Southern isn't just some shitty FCS school; a Michigan fan should be able to relate to having a tough time against FCS schools. On top of that, they ran the Triple Option. It is rare for a team to shut down a Triple Option offense with only a week to prepare for the game, no matter how good the defense is.
The rankings speak for themselves, say what you want about a single game against a Triple Option offense.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@g6iii But his argument is that Alabama was this amazing team of 2011. They were no doubt the default best team as they are the national champions but to say that this team could beat anybody this year (or is better overall than the 2009 team) is complete stupidity. And yes the triple option is bitch to defend but if you're going to tout a defense as being supreme don't you think it wouldn't have mattered against a D1AA team? If not, thank God Bama didn't have to play Georgia Tech.
LUBJUGS 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS Compared to other teams THIS YEAR, yes I would say this defense was amazing. That said, I laugh at the notion that this defense was a GOAT defense, as if this D could compare to 2001 Miami or something; a belief that I'm sad to say is shared by many Bama fans (delusional Bama fans).
Stat wise, this defense was amazing this year. Key words: THIS YEAR. Then again, we may have different meanings of the word "amazing."
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS And once again, FCS =/= bad. And if we're going to get technical, it really didn't matter. GS may have scored more and gotten more yards on Bama than any other team managed to do this year, but Bama still won (handily I might add). The game didn't exactly go to the wire.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 I do not know what you are trying to prove by bringing up OSU vs Michigan? All it did was prove that it is impossible to deteremine who the best is. There is no telling if Bama or LSU were the best in the country. Bama did not deserve to go. You can hate on that all you want. I do not mind Bama and like seeing them win. BCS and NCAA gave them a loop hole just like they did OU. Take the championship but alls it proves is the system is broken and no real champion was crowned!
josh19852008 3 weeks ago
@josh19852008 how can you figure now, that Bama didnt deserve to go?
lyon002 3 weeks ago
@lyon002 How can you justify it legitamently?
josh19852008 3 weeks ago
@josh19852008 It's quite easy to justify. The BCS is the system in use. The system said they should go, and they did. Your feelings on the matter of whether they deserved it or not are irrelevant.
Past that, look at the teams that Alabama and LSU not just beat, but utterly destroyed.
LSU took out 8 ranked teams, including 2 other conference champions.
Bama was the only team that held them out of the end zone, and, in the end, the only team that beat them. Probably the only team that could.
Landrar 2 weeks ago
@Landrar That is just a justification. Bamas Schecule was weaker then Ok St if you want to get technical. I am not asking for anything about LSU. You can jot and NO ONE CAN justify Bama being in this game. There was a loop hole found. It was said before I will say it again. They regular season is the play offs. There is no play off system in the world where two teams from the same conference can play each other. No play off system in the world can a team that do not win their conference
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Alabama didn't drop a late season game to an unranked team. Ok St blew it. There was no conspiracy. What league allows non confernce champions a chance at the title? How about all of them? They are called wild cards. In NCAAB they are called at large teams and make up more than half the tourney.
Greedy? The NC had the lowest viewers of all time, and everyone knew it would be like that.
I will also point out that while the BCS is shit, it's a lot better than the old system.
Landrar 2 weeks ago
@Landrar The losses are pointless. You can argue that point until you are out of breath. The point is and will always be Bama did not win their division of play on a conference championship game. Ok St shedule by statitics was stronger then Bamas. A loop hole was found. Never said it was a conspiracy. Slice it any way you want but the answer it it was wrong and will always be wrong.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 The point is that Bama are the NC. Also, who paid Stoops to throw that game against Ok St is what I want to know. I never seen a team just not show up at all for a rivalry game. It was obviously what they had in mind. As far as tougher scheldule, it's not our fault the other teams we played fell out of ranking. And no team that lose to Iowa St. deserve to be in no NC. What's really funny is that the media wan't even holding Ok St jock strap until Oregon lose twice
DurtyDirkDiggler 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Everybody talking about a rematch is a waste of time. The media wanted Oregon to play LSU again until USC ended that convo. Then the media jumped on the Oklahoma bandwagon until they mailed the rest of the season in. So who is left to knock the SEC off this year Ok St. The media started hyping them up when their first two hopefuls didn't make it. I don't know if the SEC will be in next year but I'm pretty sure they media will hope Ok St or Oregon can knock us off the throne.
DurtyDirkDiggler 2 weeks ago
@DurtyDirkDiggler Rematchs do not generally bother me. I think many teams can compete with the SEC. You just do not get to see many of those match ups. My biggest argument is just the fact Bama did not win their division or play in the CCG. If the regular season is the play off which was said by certain officials then Bama was eliminated. 116 teams it is impossible to say 2 are the best. Example the NYG horrible regular season and now they are in the SB. No way to tell PERIOD!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 If Bama was eliminated, then so was everyone else.
Here is where your comprehension is failing you. The CCG and NC are mutually exclusive. There are no requirements from one to the other.
NCAA does not have an actual National Championship. It sorta recognizes it, but up until the BCS, the champion was determined by the Coaches and AP polls. Many times split champions were named. There is no NCAA National Championship.
You want to get rid of the BCS? Talk to the BIG 10.
Landrar 2 weeks ago
@Landrar First of all how was everyone else eliminated? They did not lose to LSU! COMMON NOW! You know damn well what I meant you are just trying to find a lame way around it! Secondly what does the BCS have to do with the Big 10? We sure as hell are not the ones keeping the BCS. Stop putting the blame and hate on the Big 10. If you are going to point fingers at anyone you better damn well be pointing them at the BCS and NCAA!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Your belief that the regular season = playoffs is hilarious. Any dumbass knows that that is a complete load of bullshit. If a team can go undefeated and still not have a chance at the NC game, then their entire season was completely irrelevant; their "playoffs" were nothing more than a giant consolation prize from the beginning.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 I point the finger at the BCS because the BIG 10 and and PAC 10 (Now 12) are the two conferences that have kept it in place. Both the BIG 12 and SEC have been pushing hard for a playoff.
The real question is, if there was a playoff, and the result turned out the same, would your vagina still be full of sand?
Landrar 2 weeks ago
@Landrar Now you just lost my respect. We are simply discussing the situation. You can go kill your self now. Hopefully you do that to the rest of your family to! You are just another peice of shit fan that needs to be irradicated from this earth.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 LOL, as if anyone's supposed to give a damn about your respect.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@Landrar Everything you said was actually false. Your are uneducated. Since you wanted to be a dick keep replying because this is the only response you will get!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 D'aaaaaaaw. "Your are uneducated"?? Careful with them stones in your glass house. Nothing I have said is false, you just don't like it.
Landrar 2 weeks ago
@Landrar Forgive him, he's a little special, if you can't tell.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@Landrar Yet is is completely false! Keep tellin gyour self you are right if it helps you sleep at night!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Pray tell, what have I said that is false?
Landrar 2 weeks ago
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@Landrar Maybe if you were not such a fucking douche bag I would. For now Everything you said was actually false. Your are uneducated. Since you wanted to be a dick keep replying because this is the only response you will get!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
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@Landrar Everything you said was actually false. Your are uneducated. Since you wanted to be a dick keep replying because this is the only response you will get!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@DurtyDirkDiggler I like the fact that Bama won. Bama winning again is amazing. I am a Buckeye fan. I just wish fans would stop trying to say well you know because of the "eye test". That is so absurdly wrong. Teams have bad nights. Until a game is played you never know what the out come will be. Stats do not even matter. I just think people are to quick to throw teams and their own team along with players and coaches under the bus to fast.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 "They regular season is the play offs"
If you honestly believe that BCS sympathetic bullshit, then you forfeit your right to bitch about needing a better system. Anyone that honestly believes that is delusional beyond belief. 2004 already destroyed any possible meaning that statement had.
If it's impossible to justify Bama being there, then no one else besides LSU deserved to be there since they were the only undefeated team going into the NC game.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@g6iii Next time grow a pair and send me this message! Not bitching about the system you jack ass! Maybe you need to read evreything I said before you make assumptions! You get nothing form me. Go troll somewhere else because you clearly can not read!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 The fact that you're so mad about Bama getting into the NC game = bitching about the system.
Also, I like how I'm a "troll" simply for disagreeing with you. And what the fuck does "grow a pair and send me this message!" supposed to even mean?
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@g6iii You are a troll for starting a argument where the was no argument! Clearly you are uneducated! You say the thing about the play off and the regular season is hilarious? Well then I guess you should be laughing at the BCS and NCAA officials that said it! Really if all you can do is prove to me how uneducated you are about the topic yet want to try to argue about it then you are a TROLL
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 "Well then I guess you should be laughing at the BCS and NCAA officials that said it"
You're right. And guess who used that phrase most often? Big 10 Commissioner Jim Delany. Funny how shit works out, huh? I also make sure to laugh extra hard at dumbasses that continue to use the phrase as if it has any actual meaning.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 "You are a troll for starting a argument where the was no argument"
Bitch all I did was respond to your comment. Your statements aren't factual just because you say so. All you've done is try to pass your opinions off as facts; who's really the uneducated one here?
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@g6iii You came to me looking for a argument you could not win MAKES YOU A TROLL! The Big 10 commissioner did not say that! You only proved my point about you knowing anothign about what you are trying to talk about! Ok St was just as screwed as who ever was behind OU in 03. You are on here running yoru mouth trying to act all bad ass to me it only makes you a fucking pathetic TROLL. You are so blind you do not even know who to blame I will tell you BCS, NCAA, and the human element.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 My bad, Delany didn't say regular season = playoffs; he said playoffs would diminish the regular season, equally as stupid, but no Delany didn't say that. Of course, I can't find a quote where ANY BCS official said that statement either, mind explaining that since you obviously so much more quote knowledgeable than I am? Hell, you just have to give me a name; or would you rather go on another random tangent about how I'm just a blind troll.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
@g6iii TROLL! everything I said was true. Either get over it or just shut up. Keep replying this is the only response you will get!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@josh19852008 Oh, so you don't have any proof and I'm just supposed to take your word for it. LOL, who's really the uneducated one? If you're only going to give me a cookie cutter response, that only proves that you lack anything good to say.
Calling me an uneducated troll, that's just cute; and I'm talking kittens wrestling cute, your shit is that irrelevant.
g6iii 2 weeks ago
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@g6iii TROLL! everything I said was true. Either get over it or just shut up. Keep replying this is the only response you will get!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@g6iii Now I can go on like this for ever. You are just being a huge piece of shit right now. Maybe you if you could actually talk to me about it instead of being the biggest jack ass ever you could comprehend and actually find the truth that is actually out there. You are just to blind to actually find it. If not then we can keep going on like this. Either way does not matter. I am medically retired. I have nothing but time on my hands!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@Landrar Play in the title game. That would be like saying well yea Greenbay lost but they had the best record lets just put them in. There is also no way to prove out of 116 teams who the best ones are. People can argue all they want but points are valid and fact. Bama and OU will go down as teams that rules were minipulated for to get them in. I like seeing Bama win. It will suck. Just like it is inevitable that somewhere down the road Auburn will lose there title.
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@Landrar Someone is going to eventually speak because it is inevitable. I liked seeing Auburn win it. People are greedy and want money. Which is why they made it happen that Bama got into this game. It all sucks and sadly a actual playoff set up will not fix it with a 116 teams. Not against LSU getting destroyed by Bama because LSU fans deserved that beating. I am against the people that allowed it to happen because they know it was and will always be WRONG. Same thing with OU!
josh19852008 2 weeks ago
@LUBJUGS And about the schedule thing; Okie's schedule is ranked higher than Bama's because they played 9 conference games. If Okie were to trade their game against 2-10 Kansas for Georgia Southern while Bama traded their Georgia Souther game for another game against an SEC bottom feeder, their schedule rankings would effectively swap.
Which we both know is complete bullshit. Kansas would get destroyed by GS, but because one is an FBS team, their effect on SOS rankings is inflated.
g6iii 3 weeks ago
Not surprising that Hitler is an OSU fan ;)
Skrayper 4 weeks ago
OkSt wouldnt have gained a yard against either team. i have no idea why they even debated it.
jkno33 4 weeks ago
Dear Hitler,
Sorry
Sincerely,
Iowa State Fan
RyanTheIncredible882 4 weeks ago
Roll Tide Roll !!!!!!!!
slyfish 4 weeks ago
from what movie is this?
josemjacobo 4 weeks ago
@josemjacobo Downfall
CaesarBonaparte 4 weeks ago
21-0 I wish Bama played Chokelahoma State next week. Shut your pouty mouths up when you get a hold of some SEC team that knocks your QB out the game. Who was the Cowpoke backup anyway? LOL
blooranger82 4 weeks ago
Alabama lost to who? #1lsu!! Who did osu lose to? And who one the title sweet home Alabama and the s.e.c. Hitler was a loser if he liked the big 12 hahaha what a joke
cowboycody32 1 month ago
ROLL TIDE ROLL!
MrDrums76 1 month ago
when the HELL was this game, I just TODAY realized I haven't seen it. I never knew what channel or when it was on I wanted to watch it. oh well college football is kinda gay
MichRockHop81108 1 month ago
Haha love this shit, hell ima SEC fan and dont believe alabama should have had a rematch, would have been a better game and not so boring if another team played LSU, to bad BCS just cares about tv ratings.....
TheDawgfan89 1 month ago
@TheDawgfan89 2 best teams in the country played and the best team won. BAMA & LSU would have bitch slapped Ok St, Stanford... or any other team put in front of them... that "not so much of a boring game" is bull shit... that was amazing D, and a beautiful game... you remember Defense don't you? They used to play it in the SEC East.
TriangleChoke96 1 month ago
@TheDawgfan89: The BCS picks #1 and #2 and those teams play, it doesn't give two shits whether they've played or not. That's how it's been for 15 years now and everyone has known that shit like this could happen. Get over it and quit bitching.
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U It is our American right to bitch about it. The entire world knows it is wrong even under the BCS. The only thing that makes it ok is for idiot SEC fans. Christ if something does not go the SEC way it has to be a fucking conspiracy. There is not a issue of teams being #1 and #2. The issue is the regular season is the play off. PERIOD in no play off can teams from the same conference let alone the SAME DIVISION meet in a championship game. GET OVER IT! It is wrong.
josh19852008 1 month ago
@josh19852008: Find me the rule that says the BCS can't be a rematch game, then we'll talk.
Till then, ROLL TIDE!
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U There is on rule. Again that is not the issue. You clearly do not need to be discussing this topic. You are to blinded to see the issue. GET LOST TROLL.
josh19852008 1 month ago
@josh19852008: That is the issue because you're saying it can't happen. Was it unlikely that it would happen? Yes. Did it happen regardless? Yes. Was there a rule stopping it from happening? No.
You said "if something does not go the SEC way it has to be a fucking conspiracy"
Well, in this case it DID go our way and YOU are calling it a conspiracy, not me. The system hasn't changed fool.
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U Because it can not happen. Clearly you miss all the fucking rules these people make. You can keep trying to justify it ALL YOU WANT. The system has changed. They found loop holes for OU and Bama. Either deal with that and the fact that it was wrong or you can just shut up. You will not win. The entire sports world KNOWS IT WAS WRONG. GET OVER IT! I gurantee you Almost all Bama fans deep down in side know it was wrong to even though a idiot like you is to scared ot admit it.
josh19852008 1 month ago
@josh19852008: It's highly illogical and idiotic to say that something that DID happen can not happen. If the rules do not specifically prohibit a rematch then it is not a loophole.
Again, if you're one of those morons who say the Bama benefitted from the BCS system blame your commissioner, because OUR commissioner was the one who suggested a playoff system that the other conferences shot down. THAT is a fact.
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U Yet you clearly do not know who to blame so why even talk about who to blame? Let me tell you since you clearly are uneducated about how bowl games are decided! THE HUMAN ELEMENT YOU INCOHERENT LITTLE CHILD. How can something happen that can not happen? Shit it happens all the fucking time! Idiots like you LET SHIT HAPPEN! Then wonder why our country is fucked up and the rest of the world laughs at us! Clearly you have no clue about anything.
josh19852008 1 month ago
@josh19852008: Don't know who to blame? The other commissioners for dismissing Slive's offer, and OK State, Oklahoma, Boise State, and Stanford for losing big at the right times and allowing it to happen.
As for your "the rest of the world laughs about us" I'd say you're right: I'm Irish and I'm laughing my ass off at how stupid you are.
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U Yet everyone is really laughing at idiots like you. Keep trying to justify it being right. It is wrong and even though you will not admit it you know it is. You are the idiot trying to justify wrong doing. Not me! Kind of sounds like our govt! Are you with Obama? Seriously TROLL get lost. You are clueless and I hope one day your type is removed from this earth. No comprehension of whats right and wrong people like you are just ruining this world!
josh19852008 1 month ago
@josh19852008: You're stupid as hell trying to tell me what I know. What I know is that the BCS is the system we're under and we won it fair and square. You're the one saying it's a conspiracy when the other conferences who are bitching now decided not to accept a playoff system.
Why don't you bitch and whine a little more? It's pretty funny if I'm honest!
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
I think it's amazing that even Hitler sees that this game was a bullshit pay off.
antoinettex 1 month ago
Come on guys. Season is over. Alabama is your 2011 National Champion. They have claimed it, the BCS and AP have claimed it, and I am sure the NCAA will claim it though they have nothing to do with the BCS. Enough of the what ifs, wouldas, couldas, and shouldas. And unless/until there are major sanctions against Alabama, that will not change.
I still watch this vid even though the season is long over simply because it's funny.
VDogg187 1 month ago
I love this! RTR! Try to not lose to Iowa St, next time OSU if you want a shot at the National Title...SEC domination, RTR!
SuperAfroman10 1 month ago
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@SuperSilverSaber nooo fuck off you dick riding shits you sec bandwagon cock smokers USC all day fuck the sec can't till next yeat USC back in the picture F all of you who responds to this
andario100 1 month ago
@SuperSilverSaber nooo fuck off you dick riding shits you sec bandwagon cock smokers USC all day fuck the sec can't till next yeat USC back in the picture F all of you who responds to this
andario100 1 month ago
LOL.............
GOODGAMEZERG 1 month ago
Everyone's babbling about college football. Wake the FUCK up, dudes!! This was the first "Hitler Reacts" video I saw. I've seen, I think 100. Or maybe 200. This is the BEST!! Subtitles, editing, etc. With "Uncontrollable farting," a close second.
ruskiggy 1 month ago
A playoff system would suck. I mean, you know how hard it's going to be to give the SEC four spots every year so they can be guaranteed a title every year? People might catch on with four.
Randvek 1 month ago
So what are the other conferences going to do when we get a playoff and the SEC dominates that :) face all other conferences are a joke i vote that from here on out the SEC champion gets an automatic slot in the national title game everyone else can scrap for the other slot
adamwigginss 1 month ago
@adamwigginss Cool story bro. Going on to road games in cold weather would kill you. I can see why people would want play-off games....
ZzTopFTW 1 month ago
YOU BEARLY BEAT STANFORD IF ONLY THAT KICKER HADN'T MISSED A 35 YARDER. OSU SUCK. ROLL TIDE
MrRumpunch70 1 month ago
@tidefan221 lmao. Cant agree more.lsu and bama was 1 and 2 both in D and O. OSU did good but they aren't equally defensive. Since AL shut out the number one offense what do you honestly think OSU could do? And our D isnt a secret. Its always high
JX426 1 month ago
LOL. Funny stuff. There must have been a lot of beer that played into this Hitler concept. To my fellow Bama fans, I think this was intended to be funny and not to spark a BCS debate. Let's not let our fanhood get in the way of our sense of humor... come on now.
Cr1msonT1de1 1 month ago
If ur pissed bama got a 2nd chance please check the facts. Alabama lost by 3 to lsu but in the game Alabama scored a TD but was robbed of it. Furthermore i believe just a few years back Alabama was in the same situation when USC won and auburn was in the same situation after that. Dont like the bcs? Make a way of keeping score that takes into account region talent, running up the score, ect and send it in. Till then deal with it.
JX426 1 month ago
Roll Tide!!!! Haha big 10 sux. Who else wants to be tea-bagged. Don't like it? Stop it...oh u can't.
jwhite256256 1 month ago
Thumbs up if you're still watching the video long after the championship game.
VDogg187 1 month ago
OSU thinks they could beat Bama or lsu cause they put up high offense numbers, but they do it against high school type defenses.... That so called high powered offense would get destroyed by our defense. Period.. OSU u had your chance and blew it against a shitty Iowa state..
tidefan221 1 month ago
@tidefan221 If the BCS is supposed to be that the season is a playoff, then didn't Alabama technically blow it by losing to LSU the 1st time? Fact is OKSU never had a chance to play either Bama or LSU, so there's no way to honestly say if bama would beat oksu or vice versa if they never went head to head, games are played on the field, not on paper. The only way anybody would truly know who would beat who is to have them play head to head, a true D1-A National Champion decided by a playoff.
Stealth892003 1 month ago
@Stealth892003: No, they didn't play LSU or Bama, but they did play an unranked Iowa State team, and they lost.
I suppose Iowa State should've been in the title game huh?
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U The unranked ISU team was on their schedule...Bama and LSU weren't and because the system is the way it is we'll never truly and decisively know how a match up between OSU and one of those 2 teams would've went because they never played. The issue I have with the way the system is that because there is no playoff system like there is every other division of football, we truly never get to find out if team a could beat team b because they never play head to head. Happens every year.
Stealth892003 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U I hope you'll at least agree with me that we need a playoff system and not this farce known as the bcs. If Bama and LSU would've met after say a 16 team playoff where alot of these unanswered questions were answered, I'd have no issue whatsoever with them meeting for a legitimate National Championship. If the NFL operated the way D1A Football does, you'd have probably the Packers and Patriots in the SB, but there is a playoff and the NYG (9-7RS) played their way there.
Stealth892003 1 month ago
@Stealth892003: Shit, Slive proposed a +1 playoff system 4 years ago which the Big 12, Oklahoma State's conference, rejected! And not just rejected, they wouldn't even discuss it! Hell, had they discussed it they might have prevented their conferences from going up in flames.
Now they want to use it as a platform for how they got screwed? If the other commissioners suggested a playoff in the future and I were Slive I'd turn my nose up at it. To hell with that!
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U I'm well aware of what the SEC commisioner suggested and the fact the ACC was willing to go with it too, it amazed me at the stupidity of the other bcs conferences to oppose it the way they did. If I were Slive, I'd give them a big fat "I told you so" and get the something set up.
Stealth892003 1 month ago
@Stealth892003: At the time they didn't feel it would benefit them so they said no. Now their conferences are being gutted by teams leaving and the SEC is staying exactly the same they've all changed their minds.
Were I Slive I would, verbatim, tell them to "Blow it out their asses."
PooPoo2U 1 month ago
@PooPoo2U Where you live everyone is idiots that have a bag over their heads!
josh19852008 1 month ago
@josh19852008: Idiots that have a bag over their heads? That was like the lamest insult ever, you're stupid as fuck.
PooPoo2U 4 weeks ago
@PooPoo2U <---------YOUTUBE STALKER
josh19852008 1 month ago