Honda THANKS DAY2006 ( McLAREN HONDA VS Lotus HONDA )

[falconeranatolia]

so which one won the race?

[insanejim69]

Just to confirm that is a MP4/5 , NOT a MP4/5B. The MP4/5B were numbered cars 27 and 28. This is car number 2, which is a MP4/5 which were numbered cars 1 and 2 from 1989.

[celpabedn]

That Marlboro Mclaren is the most perfect design of F1, cars today should look like this only the driver should have more protection at the sides.

[spirirtbuu]

my civic is faster off the line

[maskdriderv3yasu]

あれっマクラーレンホンダドライブしてたのは、亜久里じゃなく琢­磨だよ。

[jr231217]

亜久里さん、琢磨のヘルメット使ってるね

[TeCkToNiKyJuMp1996]

the mclaren driver is Sato, ¿what is the other?

[Jorell1000]

Mclaren was winning the races. That's all I gotta say!

Go Team!

[sargatanas88]

first race of HondaV12 was GP USA in Phoenix 1991. And Senna won it! Last race was in Australia 1992. And Berger won it!

[f1passion08]

What the two guys below said :)

[tchago]

"They remind me of Senna"

[Guanja]

me lembram de Ayrton Senna :)

[comed155]

esses carros me lembram de Ayrton Senna :)

[sargatanas88]

well, the Lotus is from 1988 and the McLaren from 1990 (MP 4/5B) 1988 the pressure limit was 2,5 bar. 1990 V10-Honda aspirate engine. So the engine power is more or less similar. I think 1990 it was higher because they used special fuel. The driver in the McLaren at the start was sleeping. That's it!

[JMRRF]

Mclaren produced about 690hp, Lotus about 685hp. As both transmitions were manual, the acceleration's difference is due to drivers' ability on changing the gears, in my opinion.

[sargatanas88]

at the start max hp isn't the issue, it's more about the power curve. in the vid it's evident the McLaren driver did react too late.

[jaymepaololaciste]

@JMRRF : Turbo lag may also contribute

[sonny115]

The 1990 Honda engine was a V12

[sargatanas88]

haha. 1990 Honda V12 NEVER was at the start of an F1 race. The developed it on test tracks, yes, but not in race.

[sonny115]

Sorry, my bad, you are correct. They used a V10 in races in 1990, I was thinking of 1991 for some reason.

[GazzaAyrton]

McLaren used a V12 in 1992, but it wa no match for the Williams FW 14B with the Renault V10. If you think about it, Renault are the only team to reach the top in in F1, drop out (calling the engines Mecachrome) and return to the top. Honda dropped out (re badged as Mugen engines) and returned but can't get it right. Buttons win at Hungary was a one off. They never recovered from being reprimanded about that extra fuel tank section. Button should have went to Wiliams.

[croisson88]

What about the brawn GP???

I just can say that Honda created the car with ross brawn...

[RedneckBart]

The Brawn GP is an entirely different car, since it is powered by a Mercedes engine, one of the most powerful on the grid. Plus, the Mercedes engine had a lot of usable mid-range power that the Honda engine lacked.

Every F1 fan already knew that the Honda F1 engine was one of the weakest on the grids. Since there was a development freeze on engines, 2009 Brawn GP would have been a mid-fielder that was held back by the crappy Honda engine.

[GazzaAyrton]

Ooops, my bad to. All this time I thought they used a V12 only in 92. You learn something new everyday.

[kouzouka]

the engine was a v12 until 92

[sargatanas88]

ridiculous. it was a V10 89 and 90 and a V12 91 and 92.

as this car is MP 4/5B its clearly a V10.

[jackobcooper]

@sargatanas88 4/5b was v12 man

[sargatanas88]

@jackobcooper wrong, McLaren MP 4/5b is the car of 1990 and it is a V10, last race GP Australia 90.

the V12 Honda was tested during 1990 and ready for the first race in 1991 (GP USA Phoenix) and he did it with a victory! consult your books if you don't believe. on the internet you will find the whole documentation.

[4g63attack]

Thats it :( , I was hopping for a little longer then that.

[08376]

because when he comes back again you can see the big hole the white/red car made between him an the yellow one.

[marcioaguiar1985]

Why always the fastest car starts with a certain delay?

[emoney1235]

turbo lag and or bigger engine

[Taikamya]

the last year TURBO engines was accepted in F1 was 1988, so actually the Lotus is the TURBO and the McLaren the NA.

This is why Lotus accelerate faster, turbo engine.

[formulasenna]

also TURBO vs NA