Logic 9 - deadmau5 style Side Chain, UltraBeat, & Multi-Timbral Tutorial

[luvertskywalker13]

Dude, this is a good lesson. Now all I have to do is keep doing it till I know it. Practice (20x times)

[MrHousepat]

Best Channel for Logic 9 Tutorials . Keep on the work.

[Relazot]

really good tutorial :-)



[tyronelasersynth]

dayyyyuuummm that was a HOT tutorial:)

[SuperiorNizzle]

Is there anyway to keep the side chain going while the kick drum is muted? When I mute the kick the side chaining disappears.

[TheFernock]

@SuperiorNizzle Yes. Make sure the buss send it set to pre-fader (click and hold, it'll turn green once you pick the option), and then press 'a' on your keyboard to enter automation mode. Automate the volume on the kick channel all the way down, and the effect should still carry over to the send. Don't use the mute, because that overrides everything.

[SuperiorNizzle]

Thank you so much! Subscribed.

What would we do without the internet and tutorials like this?! Good job man.

[Cusker24]

thankyou very much, i want your babies!!!!

[TheLAOM]

You have an awesome voice man :P 

[roodood]

you're really good at explaining this. Thanks!

[shancarballo]

super helpful!! didn't really understand side chaining until watching this, thanks!!

[swanthewhitepig]

Nice tutorial!



[nandomusique]

@swanthewhitepig Thanks :)

[nandomusique]

@swanthewhitepig Thanks :)

[TheRversed]

Edward Norton's voice ?

[peraatje]

thanks man, i finally got it!

[nandomusique]

@st4yfOkuZd lol I think my video quality is pretty terrible. I need to get something better than iMovie. I record them using Screenium, though. Great and easy to use software. It just doesn't have some features I'd want, like switch from full screen to mouse view and stuff like that. Gotta find one that has that option.

[lild4ni3l]

THANZ FOR THE TORTURIAL !!!

[ossi43]

thank dude! but can some1 explain to me what multi-timbral means or is??

[nandomusique]

@ossi43 I made a video breaking down multi-timbral for ya. Check it out :)

[Rrrrobbo]

rather than mute and pull down the bus32 aux fader, I prefer for no reason at all to set the output to 'none' not really important but for some reason I felt a need to share it, im sure the guy who made the video knows that though, im not trying to be cleverer than anyone, nice tuts! thanks

[micksdaname2000]

What did making the track "multi timbral" accomplish. Im very confused about the whole multi timbral thing.

[satanisback]

I did everything you did but the compressor just fails to sidechain. Why??? And when I do compressor treshold to 0 I can barely even hear the instrument. Help please

[charnk]

Great video, thanks

[drukqs2369]

that was really helpful

[mcrkid22]

Yesssss thank you. My track sounds badass now.

[Cyclone001315]

If I press cmd+click in the piano roll, It inserts a huge note, way to long. How do I fix this? I just want one block, like it's supposed to do.

[Cyclone001315]

Your 'bus 32' button is green, and with one left click you can change the settings to pre-fader, mine is blue and I can't change it to pre-fader. Why?

[wagz0216]

great tutorial!

[nandomusique]

@wagz0216 Thanks for the comment! Cheers!

[sheisdeadmusic]

So i'm trying to use the Warped Trance Kit preset, but it won't give me the auxilary tracks to start sidechaining....why? I'm pretty new to this, and is there a work around?

[Zippy765]

Whenever I open up Ultrabeat, it changed the track to UM. Then nothing you do works for me. Im following this step by step but IDK whats wrong.

[Dfault12]

FINALLY a quality tutortial thanks man very cool... lots of details i didn't know about

[pytoche]

is not a good reason for suscribing... but this tutorial is really great!!! i learn a lot with it.... thanks.

[nandomusique]

@DjBarcowitshj That's odd.. What version of Logic are you running? The plus sign only comes up on a Multi-Timbral instrument.

[mynmyself]

hi man, thanks for your time! i have been applying sidechain to my tracks but i get a lot of volume increase when the kick (or the bus i sidechain) is off... well, in general terms i get a huge volume change if i use sidechain... u dont seem to have that same problem, do u have any idea about this?

[jpdub45]

why the hell wont mine work

[therunnner]

Thanks for taking your time to tutor!!!

[DubStepVIIX]

Sweet man Thanks

[cpickell1987]

hey Nando,

just wanted to start by thanking you for taking your time to share your proficiencies with logic and for helping advance my knowledge of the software.

@1:37 when you create the additional buses, my outputs from ultrabeat aren't being automatically assigned properly - so i don't have 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 outputs.

is there something i'm missing? any help beyond what you've already been kind enough to offer would be greatly appreciated.

thanks Nando.

[nandomusique]

@cpickell1987 I don't know why it wouldn't assign automatically.. It always has for me. I don't know what could be wrong. I'm running version 9.1.3. I don't know if that has anything to do with it. :/

[WeeklyGameFame]

Appreciate your time and effort.

But the video drags out way to long.

And I don't hear anything like deadmau5.

But thank you for the knowledge on sidechains.

[pontello3]

really excellent tips man!!!!!

thanks a lot :)

[iiceman14]

Hey i was also curious about multi timbral mode after you add new tracks...i double clicked for my synth (massive) after following your sidechaining procedure....i had trouble using reaktor 5 after because i double clicked a new track...reaktor worked after i created its new track on the menu head and designated it as software, not multi timbral....

my question is does double clicking create another instrument on a track like the one above it

[iiceman14]

do you know how to side chain in a drum sampler like battery?

[iiceman14]

@iiceman14 forgot to multioutput, figured it out lol

[nickdproduction]

Thanks finaly I know it....

[AdrienChaos]

While this is awesome.. You can do so much easier on an autofilter if you know how to set it up. It's easier and it takes way less time.

[nandomusique]

@AdrienChaos You have to remember that the auto-filter sweeps through frequencies and does not lower the volume of the track. This essentially means that you're letting frequencies interfere with your kick. The point of Compressor side-chaining is to reduce the volume of ALL frequencies to let your kick smash through your mix. Although similar, it's not the same effect.

[VAHZGEN]

bro....I followed EXACTLY to the T, every step, and I can't get that sidechaining to work man....please help! Would seriously appreciate it man.....

[nandomusique]

@VAHZGEN Hey! I hope you got this resolved by now.. if not.. send me a message and maybe I can help you out: nando (a) nandomusic (dot) net

[AlexOskin]

good Job mate!

[mw2king89]

"Sounds like a funky house track."

[bloodshotryda]

u know wer i can find the ultrabeat drum kits from?

[bloodshotryda]

nice!! been trying to find out how to do this side chain for a while now. that was easy enuff.

[zunaic]

Great video, I liked the way you did this by doing it with tracks and in the arrange page.

Before I did the same (with one multi-output UB track) though with the kick, snare, hats on auxs and not tracks and the beat itself was created within UB with each element sent out to 3-4, 5-6 in the mixer etc.

Though what I'm not sure about is that in your example, you didn't have to assign 3-4, 5-6, 7-8 etc within UB itself, you just did it in the mixer, is that because it was set multi-timbral??

[ketochi]

and secondly, I cant hear a anything I write in the second timeline... HEEEEEEEELPPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!­!!!

[nandomusique]

@ketochi Hmm.. this does seem to be a problem. Message me with more details if you are still having problems. Cheers!

[ketochi]

@nandomusique well... seems I wasn't selecting an other option than the one set on default... haha sorry for the inconvenience and thanks

[ketochi]

hey when I create the ultrabeat, some how it converts the track selected in UB but leaves the others just with the image that were created with... something I'm doing wrong?

[nandomusique]

@ketochi Nope.. I have no idea why it does that either. I believe if you click and hold on the icon, you can change it. You're not doing anything wrong.. it's just one of Logic's quirks unfortunately.

[DarrenMalla]

why when i create tracks they are all opened as EVP88 electric piano??

[nandomusique]

@DarrenMalla EVP88 is apparently the default instrument that logic thinks you're going to use... for some reason. I believe there is some way of changing it, but I am not sure. I'll get back to you if I find out.

[DarrenMalla]

@nandomusique hey hey dont worry problem solved i unchecked open library and nothing came :)

thanks anyway and great tutorial!!

[miraeja]

oh man i forgot to thank you so much for this tutorial!!!! its helped me soooooo much, man!

[nandomusique]

You are very welcome!

[RockstahRolln]

Hey bud! Good tutorial! This is the basis of all dance tracks! I had checked out your personal site n reviewed a few tracks and really liked them! I would like to know if you could post a Tut on working with vocals, how you chop them up or time stretch...etc. This would be GREAT! Thanks in advance!

[nandomusique]

@RockstahRolln That is a great idea! I will definitely add this to my list of upcoming tutorials!

[DJDrSciFi]

Hey is there a way to side-chain an instrument without hearing the audio of the triggering instrument? For example: If I side-chain a compressor to a bass thats being triggered by the kick....is there any way I can still get the that pulsating effect on my bass without having to hear any sound from the kick?

Basically I want effect of side-chaining without hearing the trigger?

If anybody can answer this I'd really appreciate it

Thanks a lot

PEACE ^_^

[nandomusique]

@DJDrSciFi Well.. that's why we set the bus to "Pre Fader". Now you can mute, or automate the volume on the kick down and you'll get the sidechain effect without hearing the kick :) Maybe I should have mentioned that in the video..

[SushiiSashimii]

@nandomusique thaaaank you i never understood that!

[TokyoKnights3]

Thanks so much for video.

I was starting to make Electro House, but there was one thing that was missing... and THIS is it.

[nandomusique]

@TokyoKnights3 Great :) I'll be posting more vids soon.. I'm actually trying to create a song through making tutorials :) Just watch the Kick EQ Comp vid I made... I'll start building it up.

[planetfrog]

Awesome thanks!

[statman666]

how do i get my pre to become a pre fader when dealing with the bus 32 part, it just says pre?

[nandomusique]

@statman666 It might be different on your version of logic.. this is Logic 9.. maybe yours only says pre? As long as by pre it means pre-fader then you won't have a problem. Try it out and let me know!

[freakofthesystem]

how does it matter what bus we use?..

[nandomusique]

@freakofthesystem It doesn't.. I just use bus 32 because it's out of the way of my submix busses and my effects busses.

[Viralwire]

how do you get your sidechained tracks to show up in the arrange area?

nevermind i didnt really pay attention in the first part lol is this the best way to group instrument tracks together to send midi note info to all the tracks?

[nandomusique]

@Viralwire I find it easier to have the kick, snare, hihats, and percussion separated, yet feeding into a single ultrabeat. You have more control over your filters and such. You can fade out your hihats without affecting the kick or snare using automation, or the other way around. If you prefer having 1 midi track, it is simpler and more straight forward but limits how you can manipulate the different elements of your drums. For me, personally, this is the best way.

[Viralwire]

how do you get your sidechained tracks to show up in the arrange area?

[DocTaTech]

Thx for the tutorial. I like how U keep it simple.

[walshb9420]

How come I can only hear my kik in the midi sequencer, after loading them all in, and not the snare and HH???

[milneyson]

Very professional tutorial! If you cant figure it out from this, then you just aint gonna figure it out. big respect man!

[Mrneradlim]

you the man

[stevenv27]

does ultra beat let you load your own samples into it?

[JoeCoghill]

@stevenv27 yes in the preset drum kits there is a kit called drag and drop sample kit you drag your own kicks snares percussion etc on there

[walshb9420]

@stevenv27 Yea if you look at the sequencer on the bottom of Ultrabeat and look at the numbers 7,8, + 9... above that is "sample", click on that and then look a little above that to the left, you will see in red writing the "Trance kik4.aif" or whatever sample is highlighted or selected... Click on that and then "load sample" and browse...!

[MissObama18]

hey nando could you please show us in a video how to make synths like in this vid watch?v=kpCnDSfLCtc this pointblank guys dont make it easy, would be rly cool if you know how to make hollow tunes and reverbs... thanks sry for bad english =/

[gleboff]

Is there a way to take an ultrabeat drum sound (like the pulse kick) and map it to a full synths so i can play different notes of that same pulse kick?

[Waltm4n]

Thanks for the great video! I've tried it several times, but the compressor won't give me the same effect. I don't hear any difference and the bus 32 bus doesn't do anything (so I don't hear a double kick when I hit the spacebar). Also I have like Coffeedrinka a 'UB' symbol next the to kick track. Can you help me out? Thanks!

[Coffeedrinka3000]

Awesome tutorial, but I seem to be having trouble on my end. I get all the way to the part where you assign the Kick, snare, and High hat to the different outputs, however once I go back to the mixer, One of the channels has a "UB" symbol next to it and makes me unable to start filling in the beat. Help?

[sanderbrouwer1990]

Thanks bro! Nice tut :).

[micksdaname2000]

Actually now that I changed the circuit type to a/r ,which I forgot to do, that click has gone down in volume but is still kind of there. Any idea?

[micksdaname2000]

Great video! Thanks so much. I have a question, I noticed once I add the synth bass and play it back on every whole beat like 1, 2, 3,4 there is a weird click I hear. I think I also hear it in your video when you play yours back. Now where I turn it off it goes away. Any idea what that is? Thanks very much.

[esrevernidellepS]

"TAM-brul"

[chokolate999]

dude this is an awesome tutorial! i can work with this! thanks man :D

[18Blackmamba18]

thanks you so much it helped me a lot

[jtuom]

Thank you so much! Great tutorial :)

[addydas9]

I fuckin love you!

[IsakHassbring]

Couldn't be better. Thanks!

[IsakHassbring]

Great turtorial. Thanks man

[senortostadas]

Great tutorial, thanks man!

[ballerbre]

thank you man!!!

god bless!

[zensafari]

Nice job. I didn't know you could do that in Ultrabeat. This will allow me to stop using so many instances of Ultrabeat. May save on some CPU.

[mikkke1236]

Great tutorial! Thanks! May I ask where you learned so much about side chaining all the synth setting stuff? I'm still at the stage where I just mess around and hope for the best, where could I learn what each setting does and how it effects the overall sound?

[ttothey34]

dude i can do this all the way up unitl the bus 32 part. but when i try to tell the bus to be a pre-fader bus it won't let me. i tried right clicking and double clicking on the bus 32 but no option comes up for me to tell it to be a pre-fader. help!!!

[nandomusique]

@ttothey34 Left click and hold :)

[ttothey34]

@nandomusique ahhhhhhh!!! thank you!!!!

[bjornmedo]

Thanks Alot!

[HoorayCA]

why don't I have the plus symbol everyone is talking about? I can create a bus but i can't route anything to it even though i selected bus 1 on each individual track i wanted on it. ?

[Trentemo]

Very very useful thanks a bunch!

[wigganation1550]

quick question does any1 know how to keep the sidechaine goin without the sound of the kick?

[nandomusique]

@wigganation1550 easy! You just leave the midi notes playing the kick and automate the volume down to zero on the kick! (that's where the "prefader" thing comes in)

[wigganation1550]

@nandomusique thank you very much been tryin 2 figure that out for a while also does any1 know anything about fidget house or fidget electro house theres no tutorials on that if any1 could help or maybe some tips thad be great thanks alot nando!

[5kyX0]

this was awesome man, this gave me the deepest most intense side chain compared to other tutorials.

[nandomusique]

@5kyX0 Thanks :)

[TheDjed19]

@nandomusique would it be best to make just make individual tracks? If so why not please thx.

[elek3ctii]

Very nice tutorial !

One question though. If i´m not using ultrabeat, then what? Multitimbral and so on? Does it matter at all or was that just so that you won´t have to have three instances of ultrabeat running?

[nandomusique]

@elek3ctii Well, if you just want to get the sidechain effect, skip all that stuff and go straight for the Bus 32 part. The multi-timbral is just so that you can isolate your kick from the rest of your drum sequence. Just send your kick (and only kick) to Bus 32 and then follow the compressor settings :) Make sure to do pre-fader so that if you turn the volume down on the kick, it'll still sidechain :)

[elek3ctii]

@nandomusique Ok, and the pre-fader is the little knob next to the SEND button right? which adjusts how much that gets sent into the bus?

[jamesgrubz]

@jamesgrubz although i did say the tutorial was awesome, i followed the steps three times and was unable to get the compresser to affect the sound. i'm so stressed. what can i be doing wrong??

[Vodje01]

the best logic sidechain tutorial on youtube!

[nandomusique]

@Vodje01 Thanks a lot, man! I appreciate it :)

[Ayza23]

@Vodje01 : Absolutely

[FamousLastWordsMusic]

Thanks a lot nando

[jneal1221]

nando for president! haha great tutorial... best sidechaining tutorial i've came across yet. Thanks again!

[olkenn]

most helpful, thanks nando

[djraisd]

great one

[nandomusique]

Why not????

[Zkrudriverz]

i rly donnoO.o i followd ur zteps b ut i cant get the sidechain fxo.o

[jamesgrubz]

@Zkrudriverz did you ever figure out wht sidechain didnt work fo you? i followed the directions but no luck

[Zkrudriverz]

i can get it to work iwth audio channel so i know how to sidechain... must be somethin with the multi-timbral:o.o donno

[Zkrudriverz]

great tutorial!! but imo the track got worse when u added that second synthD: but thats not what the vid was 4!

[nandomusique]

lol Yea you're right.. I know it sounds terrible but I was just showing off the side-chain effect on some crappy pad patch!

[dejed19]

Just curious why Multi-Timbral is the best way in your opinion?

Thanks

[nandomusique]

@dejed19 Well, mostly because you don't want your hi-hats and snares to affect your side-chain. You want that bouncy feel to be governed by your kick and not other elements unless you intentionally want it that way :)

[dejed19]

That make sense I like it thanks.

[waynegacy666]

Nice tutorial, forward to the explanation. I've spent the last hour listening to guys talking about their life.

I only wanted to hear KICK TO BUS 1... INSERT COMPRESOR... SIDECHAIN BUS 1... That's it.

Thank you very much ;)

[nandomusique]

LOL. You're welcome :)

[buchanan1985]

thanks!

[FatuusSphere]

Cool and helpful tutorial, but would be awesome if you could zoom in and out throughout the tutorial :D

Thanks again!

[nandomusique]

That's a great idea.. I'll see if I can switch between full screen and mouse follow mode on the fly with my screen capture software! -Cheers!

[maskake]

this guy has a sexy ass voice.