You know the cop is a total asshole because of the way he said "Guess what?" like he knew the guy had no idea that it was illegal and that he was gonna fuck him anyways.
they don't want to allow it because it can be used against the police state. News flash, there are surveillance systems everywhere that record video and audio... what's next? are they going to charge thousands of businesses with felony eavesdropping? This is an archaic law dating back to the 60 when you could expose corruption in this most corrupt of states simply by recording public officials and playing it back for proof.
Okay...does this mean that those speed / red-light cameras are 'eavesdropping' too? Not admissible? I can understand officer safety, but let me remind you - if the police could not be recorded, the thugs who beat Rodney King would have gotten away with it.
@RebelKnightCSA I think you may be on to something there.....The Authorities know that 'citizens' are merely an inconvenience and that their own exploitation of the police as an "armed gang of thugs protecting the rich and powerful" is pretty freaking obvious right now. Those who rule America do not want their methods of oppression and abuse to become public. It is only a matter of time before this medium of exchange of information and opinion is shut down also. Orwell was right : Police State.
i work in law enforcement, and i even find that a little rediculous. If im not doing anything wrong, then i dont care what you record. it shouldnt matter unless that officer has something to hide, or he's just being an asshole.
These are the "Heros" in our law enforcement. Members of our "community" who WANT their fellow man to spend 15 years behind bars - for recording their conversation. Yes. Great men indeed.
No one but a psychopath would want someone to spend 15 years in prison for recording a public conversation. Something is seriously wrong with the brains of some of these cops.
so documenting what actually happened exactly the way it went down could hamper investigations? it would help them, unless the cops are doing illegal shit. but that never happens *cough cough
Guess what! You're "eavesdropping" on "our" conversation. The guy should have pointed to his head and said guess what, so are my own ears! What's even more pathetic is how the "officer" gets to remain anonymous. What's wrong? Don't want to hurt his "feelings" by exposing him for official oppression or absurd incompetence?
I think we give cops too much power that are not necessarily. They can tape us and use it against us but we can't document our own tape. Bullshit! we give them to power to help us not us it against us.
well if the cops wanna beat the shit out of someone for no reason and someone has it on camera, they wont be able to get away with it, so of course we shouldnt be allowed too capture anything...
this is why we as citizens of the unitied states need to fight the laws that try to screw us just so the goverment can get a way with what every they want I say if you can record so can I if its a law I cant record than you better get ride of you trific cams you dashbord cams or anythign you use to record because if you can I can to so fuck you goverment. I have rights and just because you are the goverment you are not going to take them a way.
they only dont want you to record cause cops are liars and pigs!! id like to be aloud to do that to save my a** in court in case the officer tried lieing. cops can record us??? shit let us record them!!!
So this throws out the Plain View doctrine as well i see, If a state is going to adopt this new so call law. Why not call it the Plain CANNOT record audio Doctrine what a joke it all bull shit bull shit. Is anyone else tired of paying your hard tax earned money just to be harassed by the same people we seek help from? Again Bull shit all bull shit
@Pyromaniactico Seriously. That law is a crop of shit and that man shouldn't have been arrested. And besides that dash cam on the cops car was recording that man without his consent where are his rights?
This "law" is such bullshit, if you record a conversation that can prove your innocence, or prove that a cop is breaking the law then they can just push that evidence aside and say its "eavesdroping" on a conversation where your life may very well be at risk?
What gives govts the rights to consitute the "patriot act" and pretty much record everything we do, yet citizens are forbidden to by this law? Im sorry, the people should always be more powerfull than its gov. otherwise its tyranny
so that means that we can bring charges up on the officers for the same thing right? i do believe that the gentlemen in this video was being recorded, and he wasn't asked his permission.
When will people learn that the government does not care about you and never will. Your vote means shit and the people "elected" to represent you all have the same agenda. Leaching the American people for all they are worth so that the richest 1% of the population STAYS the richest and most powerful. Similar to marijuana laws, these are just in place for government profit or to benefit the already super powers that run the government. Think of the fines he will have to face for this.
This is bullshit intimidation. This cop is nothing but a fucking bully. But then, all cops are nothing but bullies now. Fucking goose-stepping morons.
How the fuck is it considered 'eavesdropping' on a conversation you are in the midst of. Just another law to protect the govt.s attack dogs. Me people should record cops to help keep thm honest.
The jig is up with this kind of intimidation from the police. It is a right protected by the first amendment to record government officials working in a public area. Case after case proves that it a first amendment right to record police officers in public areas.
Eavesdropping on your own conversation? Wow, what a joke. I hate cops more and more every day. The law is bogus though and should be smashed. There should be nothing to hide when making an arrest so I just don't understand the issue. Cops record all their traffic stops/arrests from their squad car anyway. Why can't the average citizen do it as well?
lol I bet he thought he was a real smartass, now his pudgy ass is going to be a pin-cusion in prison because he thought he was inspector fucking gadget. little lesson learned: when a cop pulls you over, don't be a smartass or investigative reporter, sign the goddamn ticket, then call your lawyer.
@emomagica he still spent a night in jail which is one night longer than I'VE ever spent in jail, because I know how to act when the fucking fuzz pulls me over.
That's messed up.I hope this person wins his lawsuit. I believe that he was protecting his rights based on facts that if didn't record the conversation it would be a "he said I said rule" and because he is an officer of the law most jurors would believe the cop" now if had recorded audio and the cop did something wrong then the guy would have evidence that something had gone wrong and the civilian would have evidence to prove his case.
He begged the cop to have some empathy because he did not know it was against the law. The officer could care less whether he ruined this guy's life over something so frivolous. Our police state is out of control! They have absolutely no regard for someone's life and how much of an impact something like this has.
Did the officer get the consent of the stopped motorist before he recorded his conversation and walked over to stopped car? What a farce! This cop and people like him, are a cancer to this country, and they should not be allowed to hold any public positions of authority. His highest qualification should be to cook fries and mop floors at the local McDonalds.
Quote "The cop was just doing his job!" So was the guards in the Nazi Concentration Camps and we know how that turned out. These booticking socialist government sloths make me sick!
Another ridiculous law...I think the law is seriously unconstitutional. What if someone witnesses a police brutality scene going on and pulls out his camera to document the evidence? He's not gonna ask the cop for permission to record the video! What a load of crap!
um isn't eavesdropping the person hiding outside your door, that no one knows is listening! Silly law! Perhaps if more conversations of cops were recorded, it would end police brutality and remove those officers from the force who abuse their position of authority.
Explain to me how its eavesdropping when your having the conversation with the officer. I mean its like me going up to someone and talking to them but they dont wanna talk to me so since they didnt give me permission to talk to them they can arrest me and throw me in jail the LAW IS A JOKE NOWADAYS
um isn't eavesdropping the person hiding outside your door, that no one knows is listening! Silly law! Perhaps if more conversations of cops were recorded, it would police brutality and remove those officers from the force who abuse their position of authority.
"Police and prosecutors argue that audio recording of officers even when they're on the public way could hamper investigations, jeopardize witnesses, especially in a day when what's recorded can be instantaneously uploaded to youtube and other platforms."
Total claptrap. Documenting indisputable, factual evidence can really cause all those problems? Is this some kind of parallel universe where truth is lies and lies are truth? That's how absurd that law and their stance on it is.
@TheBrewchief Law Enforcement doesn't like being recorded by the public because, they can't control how that video and audio is used, and in what light the department and it's officers are cast. It has nothing to do with hampering investigations, witness tampering, or tainting jury pools, it's about their (the police departments) inability to control how the video is spun.
@TheBrewchief I`ll tell you something else. I grew up in IL, born and raised, and I know for a fact that the police are very corrupt there. I`ve had police put drugs on me on 2 different occasions for no reason at all. The police will beat the hell out of you there too...lol It`s obvious to me the real reason why they want this law.
@saddat1965 I know what you mean, I live in a small town in Illinois and it's not just the police that are corrupt, half the fucking judges are coke-heads.
@TheBrewchief They'll "hamper investigations" bent on convicting someone by suppressing exonerating evidence, and jeopardize the testimony of witnesses that didn't really see anything but have been coached and conned by the police to give damning testimony so they can get their conviction. When the police can record everything we do to punish us for any misconduct, but citizens can't record the cops to document their misconduct, we're heading headlong to a full blown police state.
@TheBrewchief They'll "hamper investigations" bent on convicting someone by suppressing exonerating evidence, and jeopardize the testimony of witnesses that didn't really see anything but have been coached and conned by the police to give damning testimony so they can get their conviction. When the police can record everything we do to punish us for any misconduct, but citizens can't record the cops to document their misconduct, we're heading headlong to a full blown police state.
@mvolesky1 Precisely sir. I have seen police and prosecutors force flimsy cases waaay too many times. This kind of disgrace should not pass without a serious outcry, and God bless the bold souls who challenge such laws in the courts!
One could argue that because the Police Office was already being audio and video recorded, by his own department, that there is an implied consent (on the part of that officer) to be recorded on both audio and video, while on duty. While on duty, he has absolutely no reasonable expectation of privacy. Why should only one side (the police) be allowed to fully document the incident? And, maybe I missed it but, did that Officer ever ask the driver if he wanted to be recorded by the Dash-Cam Audio?
@CaughtNTheCrosshair2 Well argued. This is a perversion of justice, used to wrest authority from the people by morphing public service into authoritarianism. We used to call them peace officers, but now they are law enforcement officers, discarding the notions that they hold public positions, which by definition entails service. A sorry state of affairs.
@TheBrewchief I was a casino security officer in NV, for almost 12 years, and I have worked closely with various agencies (from local police to secret service). You are right. There is a definite difference in mentality, between those who work as Law Enforcers and those who work as Peace Keepers. I don't about where you are, but I noticed that the City Police top management positions are appointed by the City Council (making them answerable to the people who write the laws),...
...whereas the County Sheriff & Under Sheriff are elected positions, making them accountable to the people that the laws are enforced upon. The Sheriff's Deputies were always much more responsive to the concerns of the public and, at least gave the impression, that they where more concerned about protecting individual citizens rights.
@CaughtNTheCrosshair2 I appreciate the value of your comments. I live in Austin, and our police department under Chief Acevedo has been criticized many times for being too aggressive, particularly in cases where people are slapped with P.I.'s essentially for back-talking and not being meek little slaves. The problem was covered not long ago in an issue of the Austin Chronicle. And don't even get me started on the "no refusal weekends" where mandatory blood draws are performed by COPS! Criminy.
@SmileyGarrish Yes, it is a slippery slope that I think we have begun to enjoy the sliding part of. Jail a man. Fine a man. Sticking a needle in a man without consent? even hospital staff have refused to comply. when that happens, when doctors who are usually subservient to their administrators, who are basically subservient to their investors, start denying something, you might conclude that things have gone too far. As for doctors and vaccinations. Don't take them. Or your children.
@modernfreestyle I know, right?...lol The real reason is because they don`t want to get caught doing illegal things. They want to continue to be able to tamper with evidence. I grew up in IL and they have planted drugs on me twice. There is plenty of people in IL in jail doing time because of the police putting drugs on them. I didn`t believe it til it happened to me. Luckily I had a good lawyer...lol But most of the people they do it to can`t afford a lawyer.
@SmartBrainification You're the only dumbass here if you think it's okay for them to apply one standard to us and another to themselves. What if a cop violates my civil rights? What proof do I have? Am I not equally free to gather evidence of a possible crime if it's a police officer committing it?
Well, you know what? I'm going to arbitrarily decide that you should go to jail for calling me a "dumbass". That's "criminal disrespect" and you will get up to eight years in jail, dumbass! :P
@justin51986 Who told you that? Because it's an outright lie. You can't forfeit your civil rights, and unconstitutional "laws" are illegal from the get go.
(There seem to be a lot of cops and/or self-taught wannabe lawyers posting in here.)
So does anyone after watching this think we DON'T live in a police state?
mattxr2i 11 hours ago
Hey Louis come visit us! We are looking for citizens just like you! It's time this shet phucken ends!
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P.S. We hope you win the lawsuit!
onewaydom 4 months ago
Making unconstitutional laws in a time of war is the HIGHEST form of TREASON. Punnishable by shooting if im not mistaken......
petrosspetrosgali 4 months ago
You know the cop is a total asshole because of the way he said "Guess what?" like he knew the guy had no idea that it was illegal and that he was gonna fuck him anyways.
InWitheNew 4 months ago
then Cops should ask me permission. to record me from their dash board...
hollowman113 4 months ago 5
@hollowman113 Oh my gosh, fucking idiot. Policeman are not equal with us, they are higher.
TaylorMade851 4 months ago
lol dont u see that all of this is orchestrated to keep ur rights down
hollowman113 4 months ago
What a fucking arrogant dick that police was.. Facist scum.
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SmileyGarrish 4 months ago 2
wow....just another reminder that the government & the judicial system do not have any respect for the average citizen
lane101011 4 months ago
they don't want to allow it because it can be used against the police state. News flash, there are surveillance systems everywhere that record video and audio... what's next? are they going to charge thousands of businesses with felony eavesdropping? This is an archaic law dating back to the 60 when you could expose corruption in this most corrupt of states simply by recording public officials and playing it back for proof.
LiNERROR 4 months ago
@LiNERROR my store doesn't record audio, no store does
aierce 4 months ago
Okay...does this mean that those speed / red-light cameras are 'eavesdropping' too? Not admissible? I can understand officer safety, but let me remind you - if the police could not be recorded, the thugs who beat Rodney King would have gotten away with it.
RebelKnightCSA 4 months ago
@RebelKnightCSA I think you may be on to something there.....The Authorities know that 'citizens' are merely an inconvenience and that their own exploitation of the police as an "armed gang of thugs protecting the rich and powerful" is pretty freaking obvious right now. Those who rule America do not want their methods of oppression and abuse to become public. It is only a matter of time before this medium of exchange of information and opinion is shut down also. Orwell was right : Police State.
SmileyGarrish 4 months ago
i work in law enforcement, and i even find that a little rediculous. If im not doing anything wrong, then i dont care what you record. it shouldnt matter unless that officer has something to hide, or he's just being an asshole.
5thsfgrp 4 months ago
These are the "Heros" in our law enforcement. Members of our "community" who WANT their fellow man to spend 15 years behind bars - for recording their conversation. Yes. Great men indeed.
No one but a psychopath would want someone to spend 15 years in prison for recording a public conversation. Something is seriously wrong with the brains of some of these cops.
MrSockoOck 4 months ago
COPS HAVE WAY TOO MUCH POWER AND THEY ARE SO ANNOYING! LOL
multimedia139 4 months ago
so documenting what actually happened exactly the way it went down could hamper investigations? it would help them, unless the cops are doing illegal shit. but that never happens *cough cough
bornofosirisnut 4 months ago
Guess what! You're "eavesdropping" on "our" conversation. The guy should have pointed to his head and said guess what, so are my own ears! What's even more pathetic is how the "officer" gets to remain anonymous. What's wrong? Don't want to hurt his "feelings" by exposing him for official oppression or absurd incompetence?
SexJunkle 4 months ago
I think we give cops too much power that are not necessarily. They can tape us and use it against us but we can't document our own tape. Bullshit! we give them to power to help us not us it against us.
nujtxeej 4 months ago
That cop was an asshole
58fenix 4 months ago
Oh yea how dare we try to protect ourselves by ensuring law enforcement is actually lawful.
Officer A: Yea you hear about last nite?
Officer B: Sure did, I heard you beat the snot out of that accused petty thief, but he got you on camera.
Officer A: Oh, its okay man. Because of that felony eavesdropping law it was inadmissible in court (evil laugh).
deathrattle420 4 months ago
well if the cops wanna beat the shit out of someone for no reason and someone has it on camera, they wont be able to get away with it, so of course we shouldnt be allowed too capture anything...
blunkana 4 months ago
I'll just replace all the audio of the cops voice with a pig snorting and squeeling, problem solved.
cmanmaxwell 4 months ago
this is why we as citizens of the unitied states need to fight the laws that try to screw us just so the goverment can get a way with what every they want I say if you can record so can I if its a law I cant record than you better get ride of you trific cams you dashbord cams or anythign you use to record because if you can I can to so fuck you goverment. I have rights and just because you are the goverment you are not going to take them a way.
mccunecp 4 months ago
Hey! If are a cop and you go by the book, you got nothin to worry about.
The opposition to being recorded by video or audio smacks of hiding wrong doing.
Like Obama said, "The only people that hide something are those that have something to hide." Then he promptly hid all his records. LOL!
Sixdouble5321 4 months ago
Go USA the most retarded country on earth.
Bisquack 4 months ago
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801Current 4 months ago
they only dont want you to record cause cops are liars and pigs!! id like to be aloud to do that to save my a** in court in case the officer tried lieing. cops can record us??? shit let us record them!!!
4994AMC 4 months ago
This better get things changed, this is some bullshit
milton123 4 months ago
How can you eavesdrop on yourself????
419lynne 4 months ago
How can this even be a law??! shouldnt civilians be the first idea to protect ?
ooNATIVEoo 4 months ago 2
Cops can suck my dick
FavOnIcon 4 months ago 4
So this throws out the Plain View doctrine as well i see, If a state is going to adopt this new so call law. Why not call it the Plain CANNOT record audio Doctrine what a joke it all bull shit bull shit. Is anyone else tired of paying your hard tax earned money just to be harassed by the same people we seek help from? Again Bull shit all bull shit
sniperff0yahoo 4 months ago
How can you be eavesdropping on your own conversation?
Pyromaniactico 4 months ago 3
@Pyromaniactico Seriously. That law is a crop of shit and that man shouldn't have been arrested. And besides that dash cam on the cops car was recording that man without his consent where are his rights?
candyman567 4 months ago
This "law" is such bullshit, if you record a conversation that can prove your innocence, or prove that a cop is breaking the law then they can just push that evidence aside and say its "eavesdroping" on a conversation where your life may very well be at risk?
What gives govts the rights to consitute the "patriot act" and pretty much record everything we do, yet citizens are forbidden to by this law? Im sorry, the people should always be more powerfull than its gov. otherwise its tyranny
Devilmaycryxx3 5 months ago
so that means that we can bring charges up on the officers for the same thing right? i do believe that the gentlemen in this video was being recorded, and he wasn't asked his permission.
potamids 5 months ago
how do you eavesdrop on your own conversation? lol such a joke. if they were doing their job correctly, they wouldn't care about recording.
jvc302 5 months ago
When will people learn that the government does not care about you and never will. Your vote means shit and the people "elected" to represent you all have the same agenda. Leaching the American people for all they are worth so that the richest 1% of the population STAYS the richest and most powerful. Similar to marijuana laws, these are just in place for government profit or to benefit the already super powers that run the government. Think of the fines he will have to face for this.
Rocmann420 5 months ago
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RideHard85 5 months ago
ill record whatever the fuck i want. ill bust into the cops house and record his wife fucking his bf. idc
crzzymnn911 5 months ago
ridiculous. cops are fascists.
myfreepaysite1 5 months ago
welcome to natzi america
davemh80 5 months ago 2
@davemh80 nazi. not natzi
liltugb0at 5 months ago
This isn't even eavesdropping. Eavesdropping is when someone listens to the private conversation of OTHERS without their consent. Crazy.
summerrr1 5 months ago
if they preveny his right to collect evidence for his defence then they are in direct violation of due process.
quicklady 5 months ago
another murderer taking to jail, gj cops
gigilojoe0928 5 months ago
fuck police lying scamming bastards
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Comeback64 5 months ago
WTF????
MrSantatink101 5 months ago
This is bullshit intimidation. This cop is nothing but a fucking bully. But then, all cops are nothing but bullies now. Fucking goose-stepping morons.
BloodofPatriots 5 months ago
How the fuck is it considered 'eavesdropping' on a conversation you are in the midst of. Just another law to protect the govt.s attack dogs. Me people should record cops to help keep thm honest.
CockYaLegS 5 months ago
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CameraPSU1 5 months ago
What's the pig doing outa the barn? Dammit i knew i smelt bacon
OMFGItsGenna 5 months ago
this is called false accusation.
Alex123456797 5 months ago
cough cough* patriot act *cough cough
thegns7 5 months ago
The jig is up with this kind of intimidation from the police. It is a right protected by the first amendment to record government officials working in a public area. Case after case proves that it a first amendment right to record police officers in public areas.
snarky77005 5 months ago
Eavesdropping on your own conversation? Wow, what a joke. I hate cops more and more every day. The law is bogus though and should be smashed. There should be nothing to hide when making an arrest so I just don't understand the issue. Cops record all their traffic stops/arrests from their squad car anyway. Why can't the average citizen do it as well?
armyaviationproud 5 months ago
fuck the police
pinkersteamer 5 months ago 2
Maybe they should have just asked him to delete it.... First offense, right?
5Corundum5 5 months ago
This is probably the dumbest law I've ever heard of.
SbdJonasBrosarehot 5 months ago
but cops can tap phones and wear wires wtf i want permission if they have a wire if they can record my voice bitchesss
jet5f00l 5 months ago
how can you eavesdrop on your own conversation
MrDead1972 5 months ago 21
@MrDead1972 lmfao right xD
lXxMasterShakexXl 5 months ago
FUCK DA POLICE.
dougwilcox27 5 months ago 5
how dare you keep me from being able to lie shame on you
82syreeta 5 months ago
did the cop get a felony for having a dash cam audio recording of what happened without asking the guy for his permission?
mr42feeler 5 months ago
lol I bet he thought he was a real smartass, now his pudgy ass is going to be a pin-cusion in prison because he thought he was inspector fucking gadget. little lesson learned: when a cop pulls you over, don't be a smartass or investigative reporter, sign the goddamn ticket, then call your lawyer.
pacificimporters 5 months ago
@pacificimporters IDIOT did you even understand the video? The charges against him were dropped!.
emomagica 5 months ago
@emomagica he still spent a night in jail which is one night longer than I'VE ever spent in jail, because I know how to act when the fucking fuzz pulls me over.
pacificimporters 5 months ago
what is this, the fucking gestapo?
PrototypeU41 5 months ago
What happens if something like the skateboard vs cop video lol. where he choaks a girl
wrinklypoptart18 5 months ago
That's messed up.I hope this person wins his lawsuit. I believe that he was protecting his rights based on facts that if didn't record the conversation it would be a "he said I said rule" and because he is an officer of the law most jurors would believe the cop" now if had recorded audio and the cop did something wrong then the guy would have evidence that something had gone wrong and the civilian would have evidence to prove his case.
thundermaster41 5 months ago
thats absalutly retarded fucking cops!!!!
KIDDmw2 5 months ago
Very interesting. I'm curious of the outcome. Does anyone know when this case is?
Kendall5199 5 months ago
so why is it okay for them to do it but we cant?
Quan7kyle 5 months ago
He begged the cop to have some empathy because he did not know it was against the law. The officer could care less whether he ruined this guy's life over something so frivolous. Our police state is out of control! They have absolutely no regard for someone's life and how much of an impact something like this has.
josephrl82 5 months ago
thats bull
1034aaron 5 months ago
Did the officer get the consent of the stopped motorist before he recorded his conversation and walked over to stopped car? What a farce! This cop and people like him, are a cancer to this country, and they should not be allowed to hold any public positions of authority. His highest qualification should be to cook fries and mop floors at the local McDonalds.
dusternm 5 months ago 2
Quote "The cop was just doing his job!" So was the guards in the Nazi Concentration Camps and we know how that turned out. These booticking socialist government sloths make me sick!
dusternm 5 months ago
If the cops are doing there job they have nothing to worry about.
retiredsearge 5 months ago
Another ridiculous law...I think the law is seriously unconstitutional. What if someone witnesses a police brutality scene going on and pulls out his camera to document the evidence? He's not gonna ask the cop for permission to record the video! What a load of crap!
kcham35334 5 months ago
Cops can't entrap you if you have it on cam...That's why the law was made.
retiredsearge 5 months ago
can they be more imbecil? No way this can be true.
pmeneses1 5 months ago
How the hell can you eavesdrop on your own conversation? Seriously.
WVUMountaineers0510 5 months ago
This story should get more attention!
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um isn't eavesdropping the person hiding outside your door, that no one knows is listening! Silly law! Perhaps if more conversations of cops were recorded, it would end police brutality and remove those officers from the force who abuse their position of authority.
favorlyblessed 5 months ago
Explain to me how its eavesdropping when your having the conversation with the officer. I mean its like me going up to someone and talking to them but they dont wanna talk to me so since they didnt give me permission to talk to them they can arrest me and throw me in jail the LAW IS A JOKE NOWADAYS
ForeverYAHs 5 months ago
um isn't eavesdropping the person hiding outside your door, that no one knows is listening! Silly law! Perhaps if more conversations of cops were recorded, it would police brutality and remove those officers from the force who abuse their position of authority.
favorlyblessed 5 months ago
"Police and prosecutors argue that audio recording of officers even when they're on the public way could hamper investigations, jeopardize witnesses, especially in a day when what's recorded can be instantaneously uploaded to youtube and other platforms."
Total claptrap. Documenting indisputable, factual evidence can really cause all those problems? Is this some kind of parallel universe where truth is lies and lies are truth? That's how absurd that law and their stance on it is.
TheBrewchief 5 months ago 36
@TheBrewchief Law Enforcement doesn't like being recorded by the public because, they can't control how that video and audio is used, and in what light the department and it's officers are cast. It has nothing to do with hampering investigations, witness tampering, or tainting jury pools, it's about their (the police departments) inability to control how the video is spun.
CaughtNTheCrosshair2 5 months ago
@TheBrewchief It can when they want to break the law and violate your rights to do it ;)
dnich154 5 months ago
@TheBrewchief It could identify who witnesses are, making it dangerous for them to testify.
5Corundum5 5 months ago
@TheBrewchief I`ll tell you something else. I grew up in IL, born and raised, and I know for a fact that the police are very corrupt there. I`ve had police put drugs on me on 2 different occasions for no reason at all. The police will beat the hell out of you there too...lol It`s obvious to me the real reason why they want this law.
saddat1965 5 months ago
@saddat1965 I know what you mean, I live in a small town in Illinois and it's not just the police that are corrupt, half the fucking judges are coke-heads.
runningwithdeath 5 months ago
@saddat1965 I wouldn't doubt it. I've seen the police break the law myself. It's about time they start getting caught on camera breaking the law.
snarky77005 5 months ago
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mvolesky1 4 months ago
@TheBrewchief They'll "hamper investigations" bent on convicting someone by suppressing exonerating evidence, and jeopardize the testimony of witnesses that didn't really see anything but have been coached and conned by the police to give damning testimony so they can get their conviction. When the police can record everything we do to punish us for any misconduct, but citizens can't record the cops to document their misconduct, we're heading headlong to a full blown police state.
mvolesky1 4 months ago
@TheBrewchief They'll "hamper investigations" bent on convicting someone by suppressing exonerating evidence, and jeopardize the testimony of witnesses that didn't really see anything but have been coached and conned by the police to give damning testimony so they can get their conviction. When the police can record everything we do to punish us for any misconduct, but citizens can't record the cops to document their misconduct, we're heading headlong to a full blown police state.
mvolesky1 4 months ago
@mvolesky1 Precisely sir. I have seen police and prosecutors force flimsy cases waaay too many times. This kind of disgrace should not pass without a serious outcry, and God bless the bold souls who challenge such laws in the courts!
TheBrewchief 4 months ago
One could argue that because the Police Office was already being audio and video recorded, by his own department, that there is an implied consent (on the part of that officer) to be recorded on both audio and video, while on duty. While on duty, he has absolutely no reasonable expectation of privacy. Why should only one side (the police) be allowed to fully document the incident? And, maybe I missed it but, did that Officer ever ask the driver if he wanted to be recorded by the Dash-Cam Audio?
CaughtNTheCrosshair2 5 months ago
@CaughtNTheCrosshair2 Well argued. This is a perversion of justice, used to wrest authority from the people by morphing public service into authoritarianism. We used to call them peace officers, but now they are law enforcement officers, discarding the notions that they hold public positions, which by definition entails service. A sorry state of affairs.
TheBrewchief 5 months ago
@TheBrewchief I was a casino security officer in NV, for almost 12 years, and I have worked closely with various agencies (from local police to secret service). You are right. There is a definite difference in mentality, between those who work as Law Enforcers and those who work as Peace Keepers. I don't about where you are, but I noticed that the City Police top management positions are appointed by the City Council (making them answerable to the people who write the laws),...
CaughtNTheCrosshair2 5 months ago
...whereas the County Sheriff & Under Sheriff are elected positions, making them accountable to the people that the laws are enforced upon. The Sheriff's Deputies were always much more responsive to the concerns of the public and, at least gave the impression, that they where more concerned about protecting individual citizens rights.
CaughtNTheCrosshair2 5 months ago
@CaughtNTheCrosshair2 I appreciate the value of your comments. I live in Austin, and our police department under Chief Acevedo has been criticized many times for being too aggressive, particularly in cases where people are slapped with P.I.'s essentially for back-talking and not being meek little slaves. The problem was covered not long ago in an issue of the Austin Chronicle. And don't even get me started on the "no refusal weekends" where mandatory blood draws are performed by COPS! Criminy.
TheBrewchief 4 months ago
@TheBrewchief Fascist Police State
SmileyGarrish 4 months ago
@SmileyGarrish Yes, it is a slippery slope that I think we have begun to enjoy the sliding part of. Jail a man. Fine a man. Sticking a needle in a man without consent? even hospital staff have refused to comply. when that happens, when doctors who are usually subservient to their administrators, who are basically subservient to their investors, start denying something, you might conclude that things have gone too far. As for doctors and vaccinations. Don't take them. Or your children.
TheBrewchief 4 months ago
Oh the irony. Cop arrests the guy for taping him... all (audio and video) caught on the cops dashcam.
jtbpnw 5 months ago
It's okay for the cops to record everything? That's not felony eavesdropping? What a joke!
modernfreestyle 5 months ago 40
Holy shit, the dash cam was recording audio so the cop was violating the law before the other guy.
djsufferthing 5 months ago
@djsufferthing What do you mean?
thundermaster41 5 months ago
I'll be honest I didn't know such a law existed
thundermaster41 5 months ago
@modernfreestyle I know, right?...lol The real reason is because they don`t want to get caught doing illegal things. They want to continue to be able to tamper with evidence. I grew up in IL and they have planted drugs on me twice. There is plenty of people in IL in jail doing time because of the police putting drugs on them. I didn`t believe it til it happened to me. Luckily I had a good lawyer...lol But most of the people they do it to can`t afford a lawyer.
saddat1965 5 months ago
@modernfreestyle obviously it's okay, their cops.......... dumbass
SmartBrainification 5 months ago
@SmartBrainification You're the only dumbass here if you think it's okay for them to apply one standard to us and another to themselves. What if a cop violates my civil rights? What proof do I have? Am I not equally free to gather evidence of a possible crime if it's a police officer committing it?
Well, you know what? I'm going to arbitrarily decide that you should go to jail for calling me a "dumbass". That's "criminal disrespect" and you will get up to eight years in jail, dumbass! :P
modernfreestyle 4 months ago
@modernfreestyle yes it's legal for them to record it. When a citizen breaks the law, he forfeits his rights.
justin51986 4 months ago
@justin51986 Who told you that? Because it's an outright lie. You can't forfeit your civil rights, and unconstitutional "laws" are illegal from the get go.
(There seem to be a lot of cops and/or self-taught wannabe lawyers posting in here.)
modernfreestyle 4 months ago