Stalin is a prick himself for not believing Sorge and letting Red Army caught by surprise on 22 June 1941. Sorge worked for the Soviet Union and for Comintern!
But Russia and Germany were at war and Japan was part of the axis with Germany. Sorge worked undercover in german embassy in Tokio. That allowed him to gain access to secret information about Germany's plans. Why in Tokio? Because at that time it was very difficult to gather such info from inside Germany. Also through his agent Hotsumi Ozaki who was close to prime minister Konoe he gained info on Japan's plans.
You mean Stalin? No. But Sorge was a communist, he believed in the communist cause. And he didn't actually worked for Stalin, he answered to his immediate superior Yan Berzin, the head of the GRU, till the latter was shot during the Great Purge. From then Stalin started having doubts about Sorge. I take it you're having doubts too. But Sorge still thought that USSR needs him, he didn't want Hitler to win.
oversimplifying I think--the comment supposedly was why should I believe that bastard who sets up brothels" but do you have a source?
Look just to be a decent historian one cannot and everyone does it blame Stalin--he is a much more complicated man. We do this with all kinds of historical figures Lincoln comes to mind. If history is just agenda then Stalin or x or y becomes a prick (or an angel) no matter what he or she did or did not do.
@leguan1 what slavery? no greeks lived under Stalin except for greek minorities in Caucasus. No greek ever had a master like Stalin, so brutal, so paranoid and ungrateful.
I wish this movie would come back to YouTube.
tss77 1 year ago
Stalin said about Sorge : "I wonder who that prick really works for."
Anyone got any clues?
leguan1 2 years ago
Stalin is a prick himself for not believing Sorge and letting Red Army caught by surprise on 22 June 1941. Sorge worked for the Soviet Union and for Comintern!
Holt1718 2 years ago
Sorge was executed as an agent of belligerent nation when Russia and Japan were not belligerents. What does it say to you?
leguan1 2 years ago
But Russia and Germany were at war and Japan was part of the axis with Germany. Sorge worked undercover in german embassy in Tokio. That allowed him to gain access to secret information about Germany's plans. Why in Tokio? Because at that time it was very difficult to gather such info from inside Germany. Also through his agent Hotsumi Ozaki who was close to prime minister Konoe he gained info on Japan's plans.
Holt1718 2 years ago
Would you work for the man who pulled guts from your friends?
leguan1 2 years ago
You mean Stalin? No. But Sorge was a communist, he believed in the communist cause. And he didn't actually worked for Stalin, he answered to his immediate superior Yan Berzin, the head of the GRU, till the latter was shot during the Great Purge. From then Stalin started having doubts about Sorge. I take it you're having doubts too. But Sorge still thought that USSR needs him, he didn't want Hitler to win.
Holt1718 2 years ago
oversimplifying I think--the comment supposedly was why should I believe that bastard who sets up brothels" but do you have a source?
Look just to be a decent historian one cannot and everyone does it blame Stalin--he is a much more complicated man. We do this with all kinds of historical figures Lincoln comes to mind. If history is just agenda then Stalin or x or y becomes a prick (or an angel) no matter what he or she did or did not do.
vivascargill 2 years ago
@Holt1718 Stalin was the biggest prick of all, he survived by letting others take the blame and creating a personal cult that hid everything.
am1966ath 1 year ago
Where in the hell have you read you that?
Please tell us!
grummeper 2 years ago
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leguan1 2 years ago
@leguan1 of course they were innocent, Stalin knew they were.
am1966ath 1 year ago
@am1966ath You are saying that all Greeks fought against their slavery, and none of Russians did?
leguan1 1 year ago
@leguan1 what slavery? no greeks lived under Stalin except for greek minorities in Caucasus. No greek ever had a master like Stalin, so brutal, so paranoid and ungrateful.
am1966ath 1 year ago
@am1966ath I meant 'their' 400 years of oppression.
leguan1 1 year ago
@leguan1 the turks were quite opressive and they had a huge empire.
In the 20th century things happend faster.
am1966ath 1 year ago
Where can I buy this wonderful movie?
gatsuuga9 3 years ago