looks not so different from my chi sao training mixed with the Senshido Shredder from Rich Dimitri... good job. I think I'm gonna order some of your dvds...
@SGIdefix That's a very valid comparison. Based on my work with wing chun instructors I'd say contact flow has more of a yin emphasis than chi sao, closer to a push hands feeling mixed with striking, but every person is different. Most wc feels more external, then again, I've flowed with some tai chi instructors (including a national push hands champion) and they felt more like NFL linemen. The highest skilled and most yin was a senior student of master Wayson Liao's who was nearly invisible.
Sure I'll be crucified for this comment. Looks very effective, as long as opponent agrees to engage in a mutual exchange of slaps, pushes and strikes...however, if the opponent were a practitioner of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and the fight went to the ground - game over. IMHO.
@azcentralsurprise Thanks. The "slaps" are pulled so as not to hurt your training partner and are eye gouges, palm heels and throat chops. Our groundfighting can be seen in other clips. As for BJJ, one of our 4th degrees is a Gracie Black Belt, a head bouncer, and he prefers our methods for self defense. You're entitled to your opinion but feeling is believing so please come to a class as our guest and try some BJJ while flowing and then decide.
@NIKandSi Contact Flow is definitely NOT push hands, however, push hands and chi sao "appear" similar to contact flow to most casual observers and the application of internal principles are definitely similar and is confirmed by the tai chi instructors who are our students (as well as by Perkins hinself who consulted with tai chi grandmaster Wayson Liao as well as his former senior student D. Miller).
@wolverqueen69 Perkins started with each person at a level they could deal with, purposely leaving openings to show both offense and defense, then ratcheted it up. Believe me, he was still only playing.
Ive started Wing Chun just last week and the instructor has told me in just the little bit of hands on practice with him that I'm remarkably loose and relaxed for a beginner (I've practiced GC and contact flow both solo and with a friend of mine before). Finding partners to train with GC is difficult where I'm at; one day I'd like to take a trip up to NY and feel the real thing with y'all. Until then I'll settle for some internal arts where I'm at... Cheers from Jacksonville, Fl.
@LetsGo6009 WC is a very good context in which to practice GC. If your WC teacher (or other students on the side) are open to it, you should try doing pure contact flow against their chi sao. CF allows for many more positions; WC emphasizes front facing centerline work.
Mr. Kovsky will the White plains class be in session this monday January 2nd? Class is 25$ and is located 515 North street room 216 in White Plains correct?
looks not so different from my chi sao training mixed with the Senshido Shredder from Rich Dimitri... good job. I think I'm gonna order some of your dvds...
SGIdefix 1 month ago
@SGIdefix That's a very valid comparison. Based on my work with wing chun instructors I'd say contact flow has more of a yin emphasis than chi sao, closer to a push hands feeling mixed with striking, but every person is different. Most wc feels more external, then again, I've flowed with some tai chi instructors (including a national push hands champion) and they felt more like NFL linemen. The highest skilled and most yin was a senior student of master Wayson Liao's who was nearly invisible.
mattkovsky 1 month ago
Sure I'll be crucified for this comment. Looks very effective, as long as opponent agrees to engage in a mutual exchange of slaps, pushes and strikes...however, if the opponent were a practitioner of Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and the fight went to the ground - game over. IMHO.
azcentralsurprise 1 month ago
@azcentralsurprise Thanks. The "slaps" are pulled so as not to hurt your training partner and are eye gouges, palm heels and throat chops. Our groundfighting can be seen in other clips. As for BJJ, one of our 4th degrees is a Gracie Black Belt, a head bouncer, and he prefers our methods for self defense. You're entitled to your opinion but feeling is believing so please come to a class as our guest and try some BJJ while flowing and then decide.
mattkovsky 1 month ago
We think the title of this video is strange.
To us, saying push-hands is similar to tai chi is like saying nage-waza is similar to judo.
Check this video out:
"93全民運動會 太極拳 謝明錦 Taiwan Taiji pushhands national competition."
You see what we judo guys would call O-Uchi-Gari at 3:15.
The contestants push each other down or throw each other to the ground.
Are you sure you guys are doing push-hands?
Oh, and did you see that one Chinese guy sling the other one clean out of the ring? Very cool!
NIKandSi 1 month ago
@NIKandSi Contact Flow is definitely NOT push hands, however, push hands and chi sao "appear" similar to contact flow to most casual observers and the application of internal principles are definitely similar and is confirmed by the tai chi instructors who are our students (as well as by Perkins hinself who consulted with tai chi grandmaster Wayson Liao as well as his former senior student D. Miller).
mattkovsky 1 month ago
Great stuff, the 2nd guy looked to be landing when going slow and then stopped being so effective against the GM when going faster.
wolverqueen69 1 month ago
@wolverqueen69 Perkins started with each person at a level they could deal with, purposely leaving openings to show both offense and defense, then ratcheted it up. Believe me, he was still only playing.
mattkovsky 1 month ago
You can see why the grandmaster has survived so many violent confrontations. Great job GM Perkins.
Jinjoooo 1 month ago
nice video
jmmurdy 1 month ago
Great performance by GM John Perkins. Excellent!
Samoobramba 1 month ago
Ive started Wing Chun just last week and the instructor has told me in just the little bit of hands on practice with him that I'm remarkably loose and relaxed for a beginner (I've practiced GC and contact flow both solo and with a friend of mine before). Finding partners to train with GC is difficult where I'm at; one day I'd like to take a trip up to NY and feel the real thing with y'all. Until then I'll settle for some internal arts where I'm at... Cheers from Jacksonville, Fl.
LetsGo6009 1 month ago
@LetsGo6009 WC is a very good context in which to practice GC. If your WC teacher (or other students on the side) are open to it, you should try doing pure contact flow against their chi sao. CF allows for many more positions; WC emphasizes front facing centerline work.
mattkovsky 1 month ago
Mr. Kovsky will the White plains class be in session this monday January 2nd? Class is 25$ and is located 515 North street room 216 in White Plains correct?
WallyKillaGT 1 month ago
@WallyKillaGT The facility is closed this Monday but will be open the following week. Check our website and FB for announcements.
mattkovsky 1 month ago
Nice video! John Perkins is a beast!!!!
WallyKillaGT 1 month ago