No More Poison in our Water Please

[iltrgb123]

Studies have been done to determine the relation between exposure levels, and concentration levels in relation to the recognition , and perceivability of disease process by the population. Such studies must be on the table for any further discussion.

[iltrgb123]

Envy them not in their torment

[iltrgb123]

Able only to destroy what they are not able to creat

[iltrgb123]

They have truly “named’ the stars of the heavens but they truly did not create them

[iltrgb123]

Fluoridation is terrorism. Not the fabricated illusion of external threat , which is conveniently pulled out of the box as needed by the “estate” in order to maintain the illusion of its position as that of being above the natural order

[iltrgb123]

And such deaths shall not be considered trivial, and any discussion of this “therapy “ is of no significance without the documents and description of the process of such deaths being present for all parties.

[iltrgb123]

How would one describe 29,000 daily dosages of an exceedingly poisonous substance in small incremental amounts, over the course of one’s lifetime? The total amount of which is many times the acute lethal dose. And as the individual’s pains of death are well documented and explicitly described?

[iltrgb123]

of a colorless, tasteless orderless, liquid

[iltrgb123]

1 part per 400 acutely lethal for adult male

[iltrgb123]

In the twenty-first year of Henry VIII. an act was passed, rendering it high-treason: those found guilty of it, were to be boiled to death.

[iltrgb123]

C. Mackay

[iltrgb123]

Chapter 11

The Slow Poisoners

[iltrgb123]

The atrocious system of poisoning, by poisons so slow in their operation, as to make the victim appear, to ordinary observers, as if dying from a gradual decay of nature, has been practised in all ages.

[iltrgb123]

a time to reap what has been sown

[iltrgb123]

Thus posture existing upon the illusion of opposition will be at a loss

[iltrgb123]

also, it will be seen that the ones who perpetuated this mess have not the characteristics to fix it

[iltrgb123]

I feel the end of the industry of public poisoning trumps "jobs" "getting ahead " etc

[iltrgb123]

I fail to see how "progress" can be built upon a rotten foundation

[iltrgb123]

Madness and folly are at the helm of fluoridation

[iltrgb123]

the situation seems beyond human resolution, lies with the creator of the universe and the natural order, whose purpose for the existence of the earth is referenced as being for the purpose of pleasant lively habitation.

[iltrgb123]

correction: 20-30 sextillion

[iltrgb123]

To drink 20-30 thousand molecules of a deadly poison everday for the rest of my life doesn’t really sound like a good idea

[iltrgb123]

4000 for each cell

[iltrgb123]

Cells in body 100 trillion

[iltrgb123]

4182013888888888888== number of H2SiF6 molecules in one liter of 1 ppm water

4 sextillion

[iltrgb123]

willful inducement of subtle and obscure disease process ,

[iltrgb123]

Is there a possible reconciliation of the contradiction between the well stated purpose and intent for general public welfare, existing alongside the very clear disregard of basic medical and pharmaceutical statutes?

[iltrgb123]

There is no hostility against truth, thus a state defined as peace

[iltrgb123]

To my perception violence is its own enemy, needs no opposition, for all deeds will return to their source. Thus I am not in conflict with fluoridation, however it appears to be in conflict with itself.

[iltrgb123]

Violence is the use of physical force to apply a state to others contrary to their wishes (wikipedia)

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Yes yes yes yes and YES!!

[iltrgb123]

Truth has no enemy and is not threatened . What is not truth is confusion. Confusion’s only validation is that it has opposition. And even that is not validation but rather a permissive environment. Remove the opposition, speak only the truth and confusion will vanish.

[iltrgb123]

Which process can be shown to constitute a violation a natural physical boundary

[iltrgb123]

As well as to many unknowing participants

[iltrgb123]

Namely the forced oral ingestion of a toxic industrial acid to unwilling participants

[iltrgb123]

In fact going beyond a pocketbook issue

[iltrgb123]

As the media seems to be at a loss to find a specific issue in the so called “OWS” movement perhaps it could consider this one, as it seems to touch upon issues that would be of concern to most people if they only knew about it

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Keep'm coming man... you are so on it!!!

[iltrgb123]

Ascertaining the subject of fluoridation, the different chemicals, the very large reference volume pertaining to the chemical, the validity of oral or topical application of H2SiF6, the validity of application in the absence of standardized reference, the validity of administration in absence of documented indication, seem all to be somehow out of the scope of general dentistry

[iltrgb123]

Singing its own praises its only claim to fame is its “bigness’

[iltrgb123]

It speaks only of itself and its own desire, and is now doing so with much fervor

[iltrgb123]

There is no need to “oppose” fluoridation.

It will self destruct

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@iltrgb123 ,,,Ha... sounds like the fluouride is talk'n

[iltrgb123]

The requirement of an accurate assement of the patients exposure, which I will loosely refer to as “dosage” , is a requirement of medical and pharmaceutical law, and is a standalone issue, the other issues such as safety and efficacy, as well as the mode of administration are secondary to the fulfillment of this requirement

[iltrgb123]

To clarify, is it typical in a liability dispute concerning toxicity of a therapeutic pharmaceutical or chemical, that the information as to the patients quantitative physical exposure to the substance would not be relevant

[iltrgb123]

It seems this would be a mandatory reference for liability questions

[iltrgb123]

If there were downstream to be found definitive causative factors for a specific adverse condition, it seems this information would be a mandate by any definition of standard of care

[iltrgb123]

It seems reasonable that those dosed, by any definition of standard of care , have a right to at least an educated estimate as to the milligrams of H2SiF6 they have been dosed with

[iltrgb123]

As 80,000mg are the appx. lifetime consumption of H2SiF6 from treated individuals, , it seems this makes it of significant interest from the standpoint of quantity alone when compared to quantities involved with other orally administered therapeutic chemicals

[iltrgb123]

Some are asking for a warning label, that is good, but so far we haven’t even gotten a product label

[iltrgb123]

Until this is done together with the product label, as required for all chemicals in use for oral therapeutic purposes, there is no way to make sense of any discussion.

[iltrgb123]

Even though the actual “dosage” is not possible to determine, it is possible to make an educated estimate as to what this dose would be.

[iltrgb123]

As other chemicals for oral therapeutic use are not discussed as to their “concentration level”, but rather as actual dosage, it seems misleading to discuss this chemical in this way, and seems to open the door for confusion and misleading perception.

[iltrgb123]

Enough said

[iltrgb123]

My rough estimate of the lifetime ingestion of fluoride is 80grams. The 20 gram tube of toothpaste has 5mg. fluoride to my calculations. If correct would mean that the lifetime exposure to fluoride in treated water is the equivalent to the amount achieved by ingesting 1600 tubes of toothpaste

[iltrgb123]

with a little homework, it can be found that there have been accidents and equipment malfunction that have led to over dose levels not infrequently. As the lethal dose for a baby is about the size of ¼ aspirin tablet, and as there is so much vagueness to the cause of SIDS, and no mention anywhere as to checking out the possibility of H2SiF6 being of any suspect in this syndrome, it seems H2SiF6 should qualify to be on the list of suspects in the cause of SIDS.

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@iltrgb123 Yes... that is a very good consideration indeed.

[iltrgb123]

Yes, thank you. “fluoridation” is, as is the fluoride chemical, a tyrant, and will not bow out gracefully from society, any more than the chemical will bow out gracefully from your body

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@itrgb123 __ Without question. That is why it is a crime.

[iltrgb123]

Would not such indication be a prerequisite to fulfill most any definition of standard of care?

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@itrgb123 __ Couldn't have said it any better!

[iltrgb123]

Should not the debate be settled as to whether H2SiF6, a highly reactive poisonous industrial grade acid with a pH of 1, has a medical indication for oral administration, prior to its being put into service?

[iltrgb123]

Is there a “standard of care” applicable to this “therapy” which seems to be “ the oral administration/ingestion of a chemical substance for a specific therapeutic purpose? And would there typically be a standard of care for such a process.?

[iltrgb123]

1 tsp. (3.5gm.) fatal as a single dose, how much ingested over a lifetime? appx. 1 cupful?

[nethy02]

great to see you back my friend, however the whole of the EU is not banning it, here in the UK it is getting pushed by most local councils, we know who they are, watch them run

[nethy02]

great to see you back my friend,

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Right on Frank!

[ZatoriFrank]

I´m on it now!