Keep your fingers away from the cylinder edge...

[SharkWhisperer1988]

I used to have an old Model 10 that we resently hocked, it roasted my knuckles once that, never again...

[W857TYWH408576NW0348]

Look at this other guy's video - far better quality and less condescending compared to this jackass and his little weiner:

[sorryociffer]

@W857TYWH408576NW0348 Wow little buddy, with that attitude, you'd think it was your wiener that got blasted. I fail to see how I was condescending, just matter of fact. If you had even looked you would have noticed that I redid the video with improved materials that still bore out the original result. If you feel that you can produce a better video, please do so, for the benefit of other shooters instead of whining and name calling like an 8 year old.

[calbern49]

Thank you for this. I fired my S&W Model 19 for the first time last night, and my fingers are fine today. I had previously watched another you tube video where a guy blew hole in his left index finger with firing gas//flash, because he didn't know any better and had it up where the hot dog is in this video.

[iLoveMyGun89]

Whats a link to the thread you mentioned?

[nemo227]

Some people will learn from proper instruction.

Some people will learn from other's mistakes.

Some people will learn from their own mistakes.

Some people may not learn at all.

Pretty sad.

[INYCT]

So if I put my revolver in my pants and it goes off, I'll lose my penis!?!?!?

[horrormonger]

@INYCT Even with a bullet this big, it's going to be real tough hitting a target that small.

[Twilightpriest87]

I guess this problem should be nonexistent with a Nagant M1895.

[Mrpracticaltactical]

I just did a google image search. Ouch! Thanks for posting this! I just bought a 460 perfomance center today and since my gun purchases always get delayed 3 days, I've been checking out 460 vids on youtube( with a boner). I was thinking at the gun shop how I should hold it firmly (the gun not my boner!) and I guess I would have ended up pretty bad off had I got the gun today. Thanks again.

[bandsaw000o0]

I usually keep my hotdog on the bottom of the cylinder ;)

[panzerabwerkanone]

The idea of keeping all vulnerable parts behind the front of the cylinder comes from the ealiest days of revolver style guns that used black powder. A typical problem was flashover. The discharge from the gun would flashover to an adjacent cylinder bore not in line with the barrel. The result would be bullets discharged into any part of the hand in front of the exploding chamber.  One of the reasons the Colt revolving rifle was not a commercial success.

[zcde13]

@panzerabwerkanone I have only seen two of those rifles in my life, one at a firearm museum and the other at a local gun show. The man at the show said it wasn't a rare gun, I disagree, I would love to get my hands on one.

[finz50]

What caliber are you shooting in this video?

[airsoftgunner47]

@finz50 I believe the Model 29 is a .44 Magnum.

[Fozzy357]

Its called "feild shooting" here in Scandinavia. The States dont have anything close to it, but it involves running around in the woods and firing at targets from a range between 5 meters and 200 meters.

[Fozzy357]

I have always held my left index finger on the front of the triggerguard on my S&W 629. All I get is a black finger.

[sorryociffer]

@Fozzy357

Not even close to the same scenario and what people who have had injuries have done. Move your LIF up along the bottom of the cylinder and see the differences in angles/distances involved.

On a side note, the form you are using is not ideal and will hinder recoil control.

[Fozzy357]

@sorryociffer Please tell me why a strong forfinger on the triggerguard will hinder anything. I just won the State championship with tha grip

[sorryociffer]

@Fozzy357

If that is true and it works for you, good. However, that is not a grip that generally accepted or recommended. You will not get as strong a grip from that as you will a conventional grip. What were you shooting IDPA or IPSC? What class and state?

[Fozzy357]

@sorryociffer Here in Norway we shoot somthing called "Feildshooting". We have 10 different stands/ranges in the woods at varing ranges and times. An avarerage course is 2 US miles long. A lot of fun, but challenging, (sorry for my poor english).

All guns are 6 shots, but Mag1(357-40 cal) Mag2(41-460) are 5 shots. If you 3 rounds, you will sleep very good that hight!

[iamaGod357]

hi man i liked the video, can you do a Limp Wrist Test for a 410 shotgun? i was thinking of buying one but i have wrist pain from a injury so i wanna see how it shoots Limp Wristed?

[tripmatt1]

Miller is a moron.

[tripmatt1]

Wow.

[rewindablender]

this video tickles my foot

[No1Pinetree]

Oh damn now there wont be any girl chops finger off with smiff n Western videos.

Getting sick of watching all them girl pokes her self in the eye with Smiff n Western links.

[TheBishop95]

well A hotdog doesnt resemble a finger it resembles somthing else so "The little buddie" he might be alkin about is no where nere the gun XD

[sorryociffer]

@TheBishop95

If you looked at the other vids you would have noticed I re-did the test with a sausage. Thicker casing, thicker denser "tissue" and a wooden dowel running the length of it to simulate bone. Guess, what...Still valid comparable result.

[Shinerbop]

Revolvers have always had this issue since their conception a long time ago. I thought it was widely known not to place your fingers by the barrel cylinder gap.

[sorryociffer]

@Shinerbop

Sadly, it's not well known. I think the only reason we don't see more similar accidents is that most revolvers are not heavy enough to tempt users to hold it in such an unsafe manner.

[uztoobz]

never shoot that thing near your floppy penis

[sorryociffer]

@uztoobz

Unless you have some desire to become a woman and skip the surgical middleman.

[worldhookah]

To much for my ass. If it snows here again I am moving my dam shop to Anaheim.

[worldhookah]

Good points I would never have thought of. May have saved a few fingers there sir.

On a side note if I lived in that dam snow I would turn the gun on my self. How the Hell do you handle that much snow?

[sorryociffer]

That's not much snow really. We normally would have had more.

[cxiong116]

That looks real. put some Ketchup on it.

[sorryociffer]

Ketchup? YUCK! Mustard for the WIN!

[exoldan]

point taken one of the drawbacks of the revolver

[sorryociffer]

Not a drawback really. One must just hold the gun correctly. Th e only way for such a thing to happen to to hold it in a very un-natural, unsafe manner.

[HappyRoger123]

How can you hurt yourself this way? I mean someone should be complete idiot to hold a revolver somewhere near moving parts or by the barrel.

[sorryociffer]

The X-Frame S&W is a massive revolver. Take my M29 44mag in this vid and add about 50% in size and weight to it. Most people are not used to having to hold that much pistol/revolver offhand and he used his support hand to hold UNDER the revolver with his thumb point forward and up along the cylinder.

The 460 makes 60k+ PSI and even with a small cylinder gap a tremendous amount of gas is emitted and would act almost like a plasma cutter. He made a newbie mistake that had not used proper form.

[mwisz]

watch?v=V85_4gk8J5k

[22reTOYOTA]

460 S&W? How long until you have to have that gun re-built? I will stick with my Freedom Arms.

[Timmy4pawz]

How did he shoot himself though? It was no where near the end of the gun?

[sorryociffer]

Watch the vid again...He did not shoot himslf. It was the white hot gas at about 60k PSI that comes from between the cylinder and the forcing cone of the barrel that damn near cut off his thumb.

The above demonstration shows what can happen with only about 20K PSI.

[gummel82]

@Timmy4pawz ...god you're a dumbass..

[MisterLowman]

Great video, i definately would've eaten that two seconds later.

[bmetstud]

oh shit! I acutally never thought of that!!! damn semi-auto owner her. revolver some day. Great video, I'm jelous of your weather too.

[ako0oba]

nice info. Buts it will be much more better if there's a slow mode on the video.

[wd6k6]

lol say bye to your little friend

[familyman4193]

I haven't actually seen the ARFCOM Video. I looked but couldnt find. Was wondering if u could tell me where to find it?

[sorryociffer]

The ARFCOM pics are from the thread the guy posted there almost 2 years ago now, I'm sure someone saved them and can post them. I have them saved somewhere as well, just not sure where.

[zerofrindz]

ouch my wiener......

[zerofrindz]

This guy is really into wieners.... (hot dogs) LOL

[projectjster]

People who dont read manuals for firearms are just asking for trouble, especially revolvers, I got my thumb a bit too close to my Taurus 605 .357 MAG and I got a little burn on the tip of my thumb, thank God it wasnt the 460, anyway if you wanna see a guy shoot a hole in his hand with a Glock 17 converted check my page out

[zooyorktrev]

2 late jk jk

[zombeze]

haha i learned this lesson with a little 2 dollar cap gun thankfully =/

[sk8erpaquita]

thant would hurt if you put ur 8=======D dere

[SuperPowerMann]

after reading your comment i tried that and it blew it clean off !

[desmo2266]

thanks man! great video!

[Astroz89]

Check out mythbusters, you can sever a finger, theres even a couple suing S&W for it, thats crazy...

[sorryociffer]

The guy I mentioned with the 460 almost severed his thumb. He was holding the gun with one hand normally then placed his other hand under it with his thumb up near the edge of the cylinder to cradle it.

Anyone suing over it should have their case thrown out as it states in the manual, if they ever bothered to read it, the proper way to hold it and how NOT to hold it.

[Astroz89]

Yea well thats the way the cookie crumbles...

[orlando818]

props to the 460 and not the 500 , cool

[miishutka]

I had Revolver .17 Black Widow Mini-Master smallest caliber, and almost lost my finder because of that.

[psssniper]

What exactly are you aiming at? Just curious.

[sorryociffer]

There is a large field behind the garage that goes back about 300 yards into a treed hill. Wasn't aiming at anything in particular.

[alenleroc]

I did this with my 629 and nothing happend - it didn't even burn my finger! The wiener broke by recoil. The guy is bullshitting you.

[Crim15]

You'd still get a burn..

[sorryociffer]

As stated in the vid I redid the test to be even more representative of a real finger and the same happened. I have that vid up as well. If you look at the vid the sausage is BLASTED open. If it was from recoil the break would have been clean.

This was to demonstrate why you keep fingers and skin away from the gap. It only happens when you hold the gun entirely WRONG as in supporting it under the frame or tight against your body (retention shooting). That is how you shoot?

[whiskeydelta556]

How wonderful for you. Do you jump off buildings to disprove gravity too? Try it with a 460 and come back with the news.

[alenleroc]

Naturally I didn't make a test run after I saw this video, you wise ass!

It happened when I switched from pistol to revolver - and it didnt blast, broke nor burn my finger.

[cancerboy77]

Waiting for you to post your video.

[fyrbyrd80]

i've done this with a .357. It was painful, i never did it again... but that little piggy is still intact. just sayin.

[magdude1979]

Very informative. Simply Excellent (-)(-}

[lovshooting]

I think you will get a nice burn from a 460. I doubt you will loose your finger... that's a hot dog ... not much muscle and bone structure to take the blast so let's be realistic. But the point is well taken. You should never do that, but I think if there is a malfunction... like a really hot load you will be more likely to loose your thumb in the explosion. I have seen people actually making this mistake and they gotten burned... no pun intended :)

[sorryociffer]

See my other vid using a sausage and a wooden dowel to more closely simulate a finger. I saw the pics of the guys finger after the 460 blast, message me if you would like to see them. The 460 is very capable of being a great appendage remover if careless.

[flamengishta]

Well done. THis video was linked to in a forum where there is discussion on hand placement for a revolver and the specific direction NOT to extend a thumb or finger towards the cylinder. Thanks for the sobering video!

[stalebiscuit]

ohh wow, a hotdog......just like a real finger

[sorryociffer]

Try reviewing the other vids I did with revised testing. It STILL proves my point.

[massltca]

I've always known to keep my fingers away from the end of the cylinder, but WOW, I never figured it would cause that much damage to fingers.

[redmunkee]

Wow, I think I've only fired a revolver once in my life and I was just a little kid so my fingers weren't even long enough to reach the cylinder edge. I'll make sure to keep that in mind. Thanks for the helpful vid.

[rwilli1228]

the first time i shot a s&w 460 i was unaware of this. the flash from the cylinder burned my finger... not too bad though. incredibly powerful weapon.

[Ainventor]

I'm going to show this to the guys at the range. They do not believe me when I try to explain blast that comes from the cylinder itself.

[sorryociffer]

Kook at the revised one I did too. Click on my :More from SorryOciffer" to see them. I did a few just to be funny but they were meant to get a serious safety message out.

[lastopher7]

what therat

[MacHamish]

Good info, thanx!

[Eman460]

I did this with a S&W 357mag model#340 when i was new to handguns it took about 6months to heal and pick the un-burnt gunpowder out of my thumb with a needle, lesson learned and I have a S&W 460, I can't imagine what that felt like.

[uchiha988]

omg

[roadwarrior762]

WOW!...just wow...

I've seen some stupid gun videos on youtube, but this and the .22 take it. I tried an experiment today where I slammed a hot dog in a car door and the hot dog was cut in half! Then I tried my thumb and all I got was a bruise. WTF????

[sorryociffer]

Your finger is also made of a fibrous interconnected tissue with a bone as support. The vid was done to show the gas cutting effect/velocity. You "SLAMMED" a car door on your finger on purpose? Are you an idiot, a liar or both?

I have shut a finger in a car door before, the door does not latch. If it was slammed hard enough to latch, you would have major damage. The 22 was done to show that even that will cause PAIN, not damage. Tests were done with other medium too. Common sense...seen yours?

[VoteYourConsience]

good vid

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[pangris]

So does this mean guns aren't toys?

[sorryociffer]

It means don't put fingers, toes, or your wiener near the cylinder gap or muzzle. ;)

[gwitness]

IBTL.....oh wait ;-)

[DefManARFCOM]

How did that hot dog taste by the way?

[DeathTheCat]

with enough mustard, probably pretty good

[Boomer8450]

Hot dogs are in no way analogous to human fingers.

This only "proves" what happens to hot dogs when held near the cylinder while firing.

Anyone who thinks this shows what would happen to a human finger/hand needs a crash course in critical thinking.

[COZWV]

If you seen the shredded thumb of the guy he is talking about you may have a different opinion. The whole end of his thumb was just about gone. Pretty nasty looking wound. It came from an improper grip.

[readeronly1]

@COZWV

where can I find ths video

[sorryociffer]

Please feel free top post your response video showing you placing your thumb at the same spot and fire a round. Please educate us knuckle draggers. This was done to illustrate what high velocity gases can do and at LESS THAT HALF the pressure of a 460, NOT to say that your finger would be the same as a hotdog. If a lowly 44 does that the 460 will be much worse. You are the one who needs to think critically. And your video, I'll be watching for it.

[Boomer8450]

"Say goodbye to your little friend" "Let that be a warning to everyone"

Had you not implied that the result would be the same on a human thumb, I'd have not replied. You did, so I did.

[desertmoon66]

Very well done.

[HHanz]

Nice job on the video.

It almost looks like you've got on fingerless gloves when you're squeezing off the round :-)

[sodie77]

I don't know why people shoot revolvers like that! Having their second hand up near the cylinder instead of below their primary hand. But I've seen a lot of dumbasses shoot autos with their secondary thumb wrapped over/on top of their shooting hand. Also a "thumb remover".

[johnbeauchemin]

Lousy way to cook a hot dog.

Great safety video, thanks. I don't know much about revolvers, and I did not know this. Now I do. Thanks for potentially saving me from potential future dismemberment.

[qh6bswpw]

Nice Vid!

[taco1212]

Why are you shooting into the air instead of the ground...?

[sorryociffer]

What you don't see in the vid is the 250yd range behind my parents house. Public ranges are for losers. ;)

[taco1212]

It still looks like you're shooting into the air.

[sorryociffer]

It slopes upward at a slight angle. I would have had to walk up a slight bank to get to the actually firing line. From where I was standing I could just see the backstop. No houses, buildings etc etc were in any danger...

[LeguleiusGonzo]

The camera is tilted slightly. Look at the angle of incidence of the building to the ground in the background. The shot was parallel to that.

Mind your business, anyway. Its his land, he is an experienced shooter, and no animals or living things were harmed making the video.

[taco1212]

Don't insult my intelligence, guy. The gun is most certainly at a 15-20 degree angle with the roof of the building. That's the kind of shot that travels a lot farther than most property lines. It's a valid concern.

[LeguleiusGonzo]

Well, only if you're super omniscient and you can somehow deduce what's off the screen. Otherwise its just sanctimonious editorializing by an internet know it all. The guy who uploaded the clip says he has a backstop and that the bullets impacted there. Let it go.

[taco1212]

I let it go after he said he was shooting up a hill that you can't see. You're the one saying that it doesn't look like he's being careless. It does-- end of story.

[gfreeman556]

Thanks for the info. Never knew that about revolvers

[resimon]

That hotdog should sue Smith and Wesson for making a dangerous gun!!

[resimon]

That hotdog should sue Smith and Wesson for making a dangerous gun!!

[BUCKMAW]

Great Job...